Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

I think rey's mafia likeliness is on part with dice and zander. Rey has less content, but I didn't like it.

 

I might be drawing the wrong conclusions from comparing his lists. I don't see rey and dice as being scum together. Actually, the analysis of what felt to me like casting shade on dice was something that bumped dice up for me.

 

Rey has had mildly bad stuff.

 

Zander and dice have had good stuff and bad stuff.

 

They reach the same level for different reasons.

[Turin Turambar]

Why are you not willing to push rte?

i'm just a lot more convinced on Zander and Dice. 

 

RTE is a nullish read at present. I think he will become obvious as mafia if he is. 

[Eldrick4221]

That's fair.

[Turin Turambar]

What is the stuff from Rey you thought was bad?

[dicetosser1]

lets try this is the RIGHT game

 

 

turin did u enter the qt on n0?

[Eldrick4221]

Looked over Rey's ISO. No idea why I had him as town.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eldrick, that is poor reasoning to make someone a wolf. Basically that he is a good wolf. I disagree with the idea of you being willing to trust someone else to tell you he is town before you are even willing to consider it.

 

It is very early still but I will look at Shad.

 

 

D1 yolo wolf team of Dice, Zander and Tsuki.

I like that Turin is making a concerted effort this early to point out potential scum teams. I also note that statistically speaking, at least one of either his himself or his yolo team is scum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not a big fan of making observations claiming statistics without any other basing on it.

 

You can say the same thing about any group of players.

Equally, its as good a place to start as any. Its better actually, as it involved the people who had done the most talking at the time. There's always going to be at least one scum getting in early on the conversation, and there is always going to be another one who remains on the down-low.

 

Solid post Rey, with one exception... I think saying "always" is a wrongful assumption. Typical, yes... but not always.

I stand corrected John. I can't guarantee its always the case, but then, this is a game that tends to follow certain rules. Typically is better than nothing. One of those four early big talkers (Turin/Zander/Dice/Tsukibana) is going to turn out scum.

 

 

Here is where he talks about the statistics of someone being scum in a group of players. As I pointed out, the same can be said about any group of players. Noteworthy here is his group of "big talkers". He includes dice in this list, something I've never considered dice being, and then later on asks people about their read on him.

 

Dice is actually in both groups of his statistics, but he doesn't mention this.

 

 

Niniel, what's your opinion on Dice?

I'm buying Turin's claim at this point, and I'm buying his suspicions of Zander as being legitimate. I liked the way Turin took off at the start and got this game moving, and I've not liked Zander's meta-whatever play-style at all quite frankly. His rebuttals to Turin's claims look weak in my opinion.

 

I'm also going to buy Tsukibana's claim at cop. Maybe not the best strategy to reveal at this point, but if real life is calling, I understand. I'm nicely interested in the people who jumped on my train against Tsukibana... Alanna in particular. I've got my eye on you.

 

Dice is a mess. His post number #454 is illogical, and #460 is a little bit far-fetched.

 

My personal opinion is that if Zander flips scum, we take a look at Dice next.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Zander

 

 

He never states a read on Dice himself, but says that he will look at Dice if Zander flips scum.

This is what I have against rey.

 

And he generally hasn't been making much of a stance himself.

[Turin Turambar]

lets try this is the RIGHT game

 

 

turin did u enter the qt on n0?

There was no N0 in this game so no. 

 

I read my role PM. got the link to the QT and posted there something about wondering who my neighbor was. I used my own name on the QT. (Turin) It was some time later that Zander showed up.

[Turin Turambar]

Okay Eldrick. 

 

I have to say that his read is pretty much implied by his statements about Dice's posts but if you want a direct statement from him I guess that is something. Did you ask for a direct read from Rey on Dice? 

 

Did he reply?

[Turin Turambar]

Also, You say he had dice in both pats of his statistics? I'm not understanding what your talking about there. Was it that Dice was in my early team guess as well as being in the more active (at that point in the game)? 

 

OR

 

Were you saying that Rey had Dice as both active and quiet? 

[Turin Turambar]

Also, You say he had dice in both pats of his statistics? I'm not understanding what your talking about there. Was it that Dice was in my early team guess as well as being in the more active (at that point in the game)? 

 

OR

 

Were you saying that Rey had Dice as both active and quiet? 

[Eldrick4221]

Okay Eldrick.

 

I have to say that his read is pretty much implied by his statements about Dice's posts but if you want a direct statement from him I guess that is something. Did you ask for a direct read from Rey on Dice?

 

Did he reply?

Also, You say he had dice in both pats of his statistics? I'm not understanding what your talking about there. Was it that Dice was in my early team guess as well as being in the more active (at that point in the game)?

 

OR

 

Were you saying that Rey had Dice as both active and quiet?

His read on Dice is new, and isn't the issue. He's actually been focused on dice recently.

 

As for the two groups, the first one. I'm not even sure where he got the active and quiet thing from. It confused me. I should have asked him about it.

 

I didn't ask him directly, but he did respond to my case. It felt generic.

 

I know my reason is a strong one. I'm probably even wrong and am reading into something that isn't even there. Can you explain to me why he's town to you?

[dicetosser1]

ok im giving up for the night  i obviously can think straight 

[Turin Turambar]

Less drinking Dice. LOL

 

Eldrick. I had him natural and he has been playing in a manner I expect him to as an older player that hasn't been about lately. 

 

I haven't really had any issues with his takes and such. I also really liked how he did respond to Dice in that weird post about town vs. mafia mindset. 

[Eldrick4221]

Oh right. That was him. I liked that too.

 

That's the thing Zander misinterpreted as tmi

[Eldrick4221]

Part of it might be that I'm not used to "old dm style". I wasn't around for long before I quit

[Eldrick4221]

 

UN-Official Vote Count - Day 1

 

Zander (5/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Hallia, Niniel

Alanna (1/7): Tsuki

Rey (1/7): Dice

RTE (1/7): Zander

Dice (2/7): Lenlo, Eldrick

 

 

Not voting

 

(3)- BFG, Shad, Alanna

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

 

 

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 14 April @ 9 PM BST

 

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

[Eldrick4221]

Blah. I gotta stop doing that on my phone. I always forget the end tag

[Eldrick4221]

Anyway I'm going to bed now.

[Tsukibana]

I am here, still, and able to read. Don't expect any WoT from me, though.

 

Turin is Town regardless of flip, IMO.

 

BFG, RTE, Hallia, Niniel, Rey - Null to scummish (not in any order

Alanna - Scummish

Zander - Town/3d Party

Lenlo - Null to Townish 

Turin, Dice, Eldrick, Shad - Townish

Tsuki - Town Confirmed

[Cory Caboose]

Official Vote Count - Day 1

 

Zander (5/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Hallia, Niniel
Alanna (1/7): Tsuki
Rey (1/7): Dice
RTE (1/7): Zander
Dice (2/7): Lenlo, Eldrick

Not voting: BFG, Shad, Alanna

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 14 April @ 9 PM BST

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

[Turin Turambar]

Zander, what do you think of Alanna and BFG this game?

[Hallia]

Eldrick - what about my posts have you not liked?

 

I don't think Rey is going to get lynched Because his posts have been transparent and I am not the only one to have him as a town lean, unlike several others.

[Zander?]

 

1 post for cause he was busy yesterday and just for today I guess?

 

Rey is starting to fall off of the map and its not a good look.

 

But more importantly, maybe Im reading it wrong but does the bold red read like TMI to anyone else?

Yes, I was busy Saturday and posted less over the weekend. I'm obviously "dropping off". And my "dropping off" is still contributing more than a number of players. Where were you on Saturday for that matter?

 

And the red-bold is TMI? Really strong argument there, you've convinced me.

 

 

Zander 152

 

Reyoru 37 

 

 

Where was I Saturday...here Ive been here and putting in the work.

 

And ya I seen Eld respond to it and reread it again.  Prolly wrong there about the TMI.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

I´ll see if it works this time. Internet hasn´t worked at all where I am. Now I´m on my way to sleep. I´ll post tomorrow before work instead. Will take a look at RTE then. I unvoted because Lenlo asked me to before but I´ll revote.

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

Who else do you think is Scum beside me and why?

 

Other then the Neighbors stuff what about mine and Turin's game did you like and dislike?

 

 

 

It´s day 1. I can´t start to connect people when I don´t know your alignment. Right now I´m focused on you and I don´t see that I will change my vote today. (Unless something big happens.) It´s not that I´m discouraging people to talk but right now I just want day to end and see how you (or whover get lynched) flipps. I don´t think I will get wiser today the more people write. 

 

 

I disagree about the connecting part.  Its not that someone always can but theres usually stuff that does.

 

So what will my Town flip tell you?

 

Focusing on only one person is something you consider Towny behavior?

[Zander?]

Why are you not willing to push rte?

 

Sexy post imo.

 

If Im mislynched and if RTE is proved Scum look hard at this irt Turin.

 

 

He seems to be shifting his stance but not really explaining why it moved. It feels like he is just trying to deflect onto someone else. 

 

Eldrick was on my "watch" list because he is TWTBAWW even when town and some of the things he said troubled me but He had a few posts that I didn't think he makes as a wolf. I was looking more at you and dice tbh. 

 

What did you think about Dice and his confusions? 

 

 

Can you quote me where you have said or mentioned this please?

 

I know Dice has RL stuff going on, so Im not weighing too much into his confusion tbqh,

 

Like I dont recall Scum!Dice using Derp before.

 

Im not saying he's not Scum, I just wouldnt use that as a determining factor.