the Hunt for the Dragon Reborn [Standard Mafia] Game Over town wins

Zander? · March 14, 2016

Cause Im seeing signs of Scum!Turin from last game as well.

But I know I dont read him well so I'll have to look back over him.

Which game are you referring to?

the last one where he and I and Nolder were scum in Chrono Trigger

Cory Caboose · March 14, 2016

I actually thought Darthe was a wolf on tone during his intro but admittedly he's dug himself out and I'm not sure anymore

He at least deserves another day, but don't forget that he's a loud and likable wolf who goes very far with the "i'm relaxed and dgaf" tone that makes him seem more villagery than he really is.

See: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/94421-american-gods-mafia-advanced-mafia-win/

Katiora · March 14, 2016

Genuinely lost as to what Tina wants from me at this point, and at a loss as to what Kat is trying to accomplish D1.

KAT, ive been reading bacj over you and gotta tell you that people hate that "im no good d1 bs", we have all seen it dozens of times from all types of players and from townies and wolves alike. Provide reads. I dont care if they turn out wrong, I care that you're accountable.

Didn't say i was no good at D1.. I said I hate d1.. big difference. I hate not knowing and having to guess... :tongue: don't put words in my mouth. *nods*

And I will provide reads when I have some I refuse to give a random list of people that will later be used against me when I had no idea what was going on.

I will say that Dice is sounding very defensive and I don't like it. I don't like how he flew into the Sooh thing, and I'm still not exactly sure what that was... I'm thinking it was meant to be something not specifically "game" related and then he tried to make it into something it wasn't. Zander is being slightly less annoying than I'm used to and it's throwing me off and making me more suspicious of him. The rest I have absolutely no read on besides Darth is annoying me for playing how I wanna play... :rolleyes:

Cory Caboose · March 14, 2016

Tina if you are a wolf I am going to be extremely impressed

Darthe · March 14, 2016

I just got chrono trigger for android. Love this game, I get it every time it comes out.

@Tina, ask better questions.then. you never told me where you asked things in the first place.

Hallia · March 14, 2016

Up through 13:

P9:

There's that big beautiful post of Cory's. Time will tell if he's right on Sooh wolf world, which I think he may well be.

Yah, after that psycho analysis I got nothing. Talk about something else where I can possibly read someone or analyze me to death and lynch me.

I don't like this response of Sooh's. It screams to me like AtE from a caught wolf.

Yah, after that psycho analysis I got nothing. Talk about something else where I can possibly read someone or analyze me to death and lynch me.

Sooh again you KNOW I love you very much!!!

I get that frustrated Towny is a fairly common thing....but you know I hate posts that ring to me like AtE...and Im sorry if im wrong but this does to me.

Zander sees it as well.

Weak town read on Zander. I don't think he would keep his vote on me as a wolf, knowing it would be a mislynch and scrutiny would follow.

Shad has a bit of an "eager puppy" vibe going on right now, and he hasn't to my knowledge taken any stances on anyone. This makes me suspicious of him.

I don't know how I feel about Turin's town lean on me. That alone doesn't make me want to accuse him of TMI, and given his suspicions of Shad I'll leave him as neutral at this point. Like, there are things telling me he's town and things telling me he's scum, but right now nothing weighs more than the other in my eyes anyway.

Dice is similarly quite null for me, given him saying he doesn't think it's alignment indicative and hasn't made a conclusion based on it.

Cory I have no clue on (I literally typed your name as Cosy). Could go either way at the moment.

That's it at the moment.

And then this one is playing the middle of the road very carefully.

In intensely fewer words: I think if Sooh is scum there was definitely town spew in those two posts. I don't have any lean one way or the other on her atm. I don't think #94 was indicative of jack, because town!Sooh rolls into games with a chip on her shoulder sometimes for reasons I will never understand, while scum!Sooh is pretty jacked because people are already looking at her slanteyed and she doesn't recognize the game-related reason for it.

The takeaway is I'm null on her moving forward and, if she's scum, Cory Zander and Turin are all > rand town.

Why is Turin >rand town?

and by Turin I meant Thane, which I originally typed and then got confused. >_<

Oh. XD

In intensely fewer words: I think if Sooh is scum there was definitely town spew in those two posts. I don't have any lean one way or the other on her atm. I don't think #94 was indicative of jack, because town!Sooh rolls into games with a chip on her shoulder sometimes for reasons I will never understand, while scum!Sooh is pretty jacked because people are already looking at her slanteyed and she doesn't recognize the game-related reason for it.

The takeaway is I'm null on her moving forward and, if she's scum, Cory Zander and Turin are all > rand town.

I don't disagree, but her opener was:

Hi everyone!

I've also been very excited about this game.

Come out of the woodwork and post, everyone!

I don't know she went from that to her current line in a matter of hours.

I thnik if that was her hard open I'd be thinking about it less?

Yes! This is what I'm talking about in my earlier post. Her tone changes.

Gut, for now, says:

Zander good

Hallia good

Sooh frustrated townie

Turin looking ok, but still cautious

Shad alright; for now

Cory (Wanna make Zan jealous)

I like that Thane is giving definite opinions on people.

Here; doing homework, but here.

Hallia what do you think of Dice and his coming to the defense of Sooh so to speak?

Realized I stopped saying pages...P12

Zander and I are on the same wavelength with regards to Dice.

If you're seeing something there that I am not, please LMK

Ok.

I struggled to buy that Sooh really took those opening joke reads seriously. This is why her first post looked strange to me. (I thought this bothered you, too, up until you clarified just now, because of the sequence of posts).

*raises an eyebrow*

So this means Thane has cleared Cory already?

And it looked like Zander had done the same.

Why?

Why are you even questioning this?

*raises an eyebrow*

So this means Thane has cleared Cory already?

And it looked like Zander had done the same.

Why?

Pootaloot are you a wolf?

Remember that while it's not your choice to be a wolf, it is your choice to be a liar

The Person A/Person B argument happens after these three posts. Before them, no one's 'excluding' Sooh from the joke-clear crew.

So either null!Sooh took the joke town reads rather seriously, didn't get why the three (apparently two) of us sussed her and assumed rather that we were, say, 'soul reading' her scum while 'soul reading' each other town, and that lead to Person A/Person B.

or else

scum!Sooh had at least some awareness that we were joking around, made a scummy post irt it, and only misinterpreted (some of) our responses to her after the first post in question.

Both result in the Person A/Person B post. I think that post is null. But I don't see a world where Sooh knew the 'lock clear' jokes were purely jokes and this same course of events unfolded.

The lean, at least in my eyes, hinges on whether you believe a town Sooh takes the "Cory obv town" posts seriously. Unless there was a layer of sarcasm to that first post that is completely eluding me.

I'm at least a little leery of the first post. Not enough to begin to draw conclusions when I have a whole phase ahead of me to figure her out, but it was enough to merit a quick comment at the time. If it didn't bother you, then we're not quite as on the same page here as I thought, I suppose.

I really like Shad for this post. Adding him to my town pile for now.

P13:

I'm mixed on this post of Calder's. I see what he means regarding Dice, HOWEVER - I don't think Sooh's post is nongame related, and that throws it off.

I would apologize for just dropping in now. But that was a horrible read so i say we are even.

Dice is most likely to be scum from the read. Not bc of the defense being fishy or anything, but that for me it feels like exactly what scumCalder would want to defend. Sooh's posting felt obv non game related and not indicative, so as scum i would want to be on the side to call people out for not seeing that.

And lastly:

Dice says that Zander is sheeping? Whaaa??? Ew.

Darthe · March 14, 2016

I actually thought Darthe was a wolf on tone during his intro but admittedly he's dug himself out and I'm not sure anymore

He at least deserves another day, but don't forget that he's a loud and likable wolf who goes very far with the "i'm relaxed and dgaf" tone that makes him seem more villagery than he really is.

See: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/94421-american-gods-mafia-advanced-mafia-win/

I started wolfy to you? Huh, show me plz.

Zander? · March 14, 2016

@ Tina- Its early but Darthe hasnt really done anything to alarm me or ping me. He's engaging and hes seeing the same things irt to Sooh and Dice.

@ Darthe- In the last couple games he's been vague and slow starting this one not so much. Im a meta/gut player so this isnt sitting well with me atp.

Darthe · March 14, 2016

I can accept that. Verb has enough range that if you wanna be wary be wary. Calder/shad/kat?

Zander? · March 14, 2016

Genuinely lost as to what Tina wants from me at this point, and at a loss as to what Kat is trying to accomplish D1.

KAT, ive been reading bacj over you and gotta tell you that people hate that "im no good d1 bs", we have all seen it dozens of times from all types of players and from townies and wolves alike. Provide reads. I dont care if they turn out wrong, I care that you're accountable.

Didn't say i was no good at D1.. I said I hate d1.. big difference. I hate not knowing and having to guess... don't put words in my mouth. *nods*

And I will provide reads when I have some I refuse to give a random list of people that will later be used against me when I had no idea what was going on.

I will say that Dice is sounding very defensive and I don't like it. I don't like how he flew into the Sooh thing, and I'm still not exactly sure what that was... I'm thinking it was meant to be something not specifically "game" related and then he tried to make it into something it wasn't. Zander is being slightly less annoying than I'm used to and it's throwing me off and making me more suspicious of him. The rest I have absolutely no read on besides Darth is annoying me for playing how I wanna play...

I like this post fwiw.

Tina if you are a wolf I am going to be extremely impressed

I feel the same except with Hallia.

I think I read her pretty well so if shes fooling me shes doing quite well.

Verbal32 · March 14, 2016

I actually thought Darthe was a wolf on tone during his intro but admittedly he's dug himself out and I'm not sure anymore

He at least deserves another day, but don't forget that he's a loud and likable wolf who goes very far with the "i'm relaxed and dgaf" tone that makes him seem more villagery than he really is.

See: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/94421-american-gods-mafia-advanced-mafia-win/

Hmph. I went in the opposite direction. I thought town off the bat, and now somewhat uncertain due to all the "you're stealing my lines" thing, which on the surface seems like a pocketing attempt.

And to be fair, you did the same thing back to him, heh.

Cory Caboose · March 14, 2016

I actually thought Darthe was a wolf on tone during his intro but admittedly he's dug himself out and I'm not sure anymore

He at least deserves another day, but don't forget that he's a loud and likable wolf who goes very far with the "i'm relaxed and dgaf" tone that makes him seem more villagery than he really is.

See: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/94421-american-gods-mafia-advanced-mafia-win/

I started wolfy to you? Huh, show me plz.

It was the "LOL I'm here here's some posts but I don't really care I'm just here for laffs" bit in your first 10-15 posts.

You are one of those players that I think has better toan as a wolf than as a villager; as a villager I mostly read you on whether or not your thoughts make sense and are natural.

Darthe · March 14, 2016

Genuinely lost as to what Tina wants from me at this point, and at a loss as to what Kat is trying to accomplish D1.

KAT, ive been reading bacj over you and gotta tell you that people hate that "im no good d1 bs", we have all seen it dozens of times from all types of players and from townies and wolves alike. Provide reads. I dont care if they turn out wrong, I care that you're accountable.

Didn't say i was no good at D1.. I said I hate d1.. big difference. I hate not knowing and having to guess... don't put words in my mouth. *nods*

And I will provide reads when I have some I refuse to give a random list of people that will later be used against me when I had no idea what was going on.

I will say that Dice is sounding very defensive and I don't like it. I don't like how he flew into the Sooh thing, and I'm still not exactly sure what that was... I'm thinking it was meant to be something not specifically "game" related and then he tried to make it into something it wasn't. Zander is being slightly less annoying than I'm used to and it's throwing me off and making me more suspicious of him. The rest I have absolutely no read on besides Darth is annoying me for playing how I wanna play...

I like this post fwiw.

Tina if you are a wolf I am going to be extremely impressed

I feel the same except with Hallia.

I think I read her pretty well so if shes fooling me shes doing quite well.

+1 this post

BFG · March 14, 2016

Votecount

Dice (2/7): Cory, Zander

Shad (1/7): Turin

Turin (1/7): Hallia

Kat (1/7): Darthe

Not Voting (8): Calder, Dice, Kat, Shad, Sooh, Thane, Tina, Verb

Darthe · March 14, 2016

I actually thought Darthe was a wolf on tone during his intro but admittedly he's dug himself out and I'm not sure anymore

He at least deserves another day, but don't forget that he's a loud and likable wolf who goes very far with the "i'm relaxed and dgaf" tone that makes him seem more villagery than he really is.

See: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/94421-american-gods-mafia-advanced-mafia-win/

I started wolfy to you? Huh, show me plz.

It was the "LOL I'm here here's some posts but I don't really care I'm just here for laffs" bit in your first 10-15 posts.

You are one of those players that I think has better toan as a wolf than as a villager; as a villager I mostly read you on whether or not your thoughts make sense and are natural.

But im a natural flower child ).) No telling if im gonna be clov or csarmi from one day to the next

Zander? · March 14, 2016

I can accept that. Verb has enough range that if you wanna be wary be wary. Calder/shad/kat?

Are you asking if thats what I think the scum team is? If so...no I dont

Shad and Kat are null.

Kat hasnt posted much but I did like her more recent one.

Shad will take me some time to figure out. Im decent at reading him but not great.

Calder im leaning Town on. Seemingly more involved here and from the couple games ive seen from him on DM, he tends to lurk more as Scum whereas hes more open as Town.

Cory Caboose · March 14, 2016

I actually thought Darthe was a wolf on tone during his intro but admittedly he's dug himself out and I'm not sure anymore

He at least deserves another day, but don't forget that he's a loud and likable wolf who goes very far with the "i'm relaxed and dgaf" tone that makes him seem more villagery than he really is.

See: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/94421-american-gods-mafia-advanced-mafia-win/

Hmph. I went in the opposite direction. I thought town off the bat, and now somewhat uncertain due to all the "you're stealing my lines" thing, which on the surface seems like a pocketing attempt.

And to be fair, you did the same thing back to him, heh.

For me, he got out of perma-catchup quicker than I expected. Thought he might hide there awhile but immediately starting pushing in real time.

Though it's less wolf lean -> village lean and more wolf lean -> not sure. More that my initial impression could be wrong; I can't really peg his approach just yet and he's been gone for awhile so my familiarity with him isn't as strong as it used to be.

Darthe · March 14, 2016

[V]shad [/v]

Verbal32 · March 14, 2016

PSA: I'm keeping up, but you don't yet have my full attention. I'm in another game that is nearing completion, and I'm admittedly more invested in that right now. That said, I'll stay caught up and point things out as I see them (i.e. I won't drop off the map).

@ Tina- Its early but Darthe hasnt really done anything to alarm me or ping me. He's engaging and hes seeing the same things irt to Sooh and Dice.

@ Darthe- In the last couple games he's been vague and slow starting this one not so much. Im a meta/gut player so this isnt sitting well with me atp.

Weird, I feel like I started slower here than in the last 2 with you.....but I'm biased there, heh. I'd argue that I typically start stronger as town, but I can admittedly change that if I want to. So you make a fair observation, but take it with some salt, yo.

Darthe · March 14, 2016

I can accept that. Verb has enough range that if you wanna be wary be wary. Calder/shad/kat?

Are you asking if thats what I think the scum team is? If so...no I dont

Shad and Kat are null.

Kat hasnt posted much but I did like her more recent one.

Shad will take me some time to figure out. Im decent at reading him but not great.

Calder im leaning Town on. Seemingly more involved here and from the couple games ive seen from him on DM, he tends to lurk more as Scum whereas hes more open as Town.

Was requesting thoughts, how they got where they are in your list etc

Sooh · March 14, 2016

Sorry Poot :(

Hope you feel better

I'll get there. Trying to form cohesive thoughts about this game didn't get any easier after the intro of our lovely Darthe.

Darthe · March 14, 2016

Dont really have an approach atm. Just talking, reading, responding and trying to elicit some conversation.

Shad_ · March 14, 2016

bwahaha, I missed ten pages already

Shad_ · March 14, 2016

Darthe bring back your DBZ avatar this instant.

Darthe · March 14, 2016

Sorry Poot :(

Hope you feel better

I'll get there. Trying to form cohesive thoughts about this game didn't get any easier after the intro of our lovely Darthe.

<3

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