[Advanced] Woodstock 1969 Mafia - Town wins

[Krakalakachkn]

I wish Darthe would show up and start psychoanalyzing people.  Drop some truth, you know?

[Nynaeve]

Verb really needs to step up his game.

 

*laughs*

[csarmi]

I was actually right about Darthe and those posts were not alignment indicative - apparently he never read his role PM before that XD

[Cory Caboose]

Hallia thought Tommy was town and she was right tho

 

I mean, it was a good read

[Andrej]

So... About that game.

 

I had fun.

[Cory Caboose]

But I appreciate the response :)

[Tommyrod]

So... About that game.

 

I had fun.

It was nice stomping around with you. With our big feets.

[hazelkrs1]

 

I wouldn't care so much if you were criticizing the person. The two times you have pissed me off the most was when you were criticizing my play in general.

 

You're right, you don't know me, and you don't know what kind of person I am. So your or anyone else's judgements on that matter would have essentially no effect on me.

 

Criticism's about my play tho can irk me. Mostly because I receive a lot of it, when I often feel it's undeserved. And I take pride in trying to play an effective mafia game, I put a lot of effort into it so I'd hope I wasn't a complete disaster. I don't mind criticisms here and there that can help me work on the things I need work on, I'm talking about people just saying I suck in general, which I see at times even tho I've seen my instincts be right on time and time again

I guess my question then is: why does it hurt your feelings when someone says you're bad at a mafia game?

 

I had a game about six months ago where I shot SIX townies as a vig and ultimately lost the game for the town. This was a large game, it started with something like 50 players, so the amount of hate that rained down on me in post-game was almost startling even for me. I earned a couple nicknames like "backup death star" [it was a star wars themed game] that still follow me around. But it never made me actually upset. I shrugged it off and ended up making a few friends after that because people thought I was cool for taking it in stride despite hundreds of skype messages (and a $140 bet that I would shoot a sixth villager) being made at my expense. It was annoying to think people wouldn't respect me or want to play with me anymore, and it took a few months for people to stop bringing it up in subsequent games, but one thing it did do is make me want to get better at being a townie. And I think I've gotten to the point where I feel pretty good about my town game, and it's partly because of huge mistakes like that game and in other games. I think what people want to see is you saying "yes, I botched that, I'll learn from it" instead of "stop picking on me!" And I'm not even speaking to a specific example, but in general.

 

Despite what I said in the previous post, I consider you an online friend of mine, but it's frustrating to me that I don't feel comfortable telling you exactly what I think because I worry you'll take it the wrong way. I think that if we have in-game beef it stays in-game beef but you don't draw a line there, you will harbor resentment for a person after the game is over. That is what I have a problem with.

 

 

When I actually have messed up majorly in a mafia game it stays with me a loooong loooong time. I just think I get criticism at other times when it's not really warranted. And we're apparently different. If I screw up and people call me out for it, it WILL affect me. If I don't think I screwed up tho, and yet a bunch of people are still berating me, well it bothers me more so.

 

Tbh I'm drained after discussing this so much. I realize I'm sensitive. I don't want to make games unfun for others. I have a problem with letting real life frustration bleed into games sometimes. That's stuff I need to work on. I guess mebbe if I got more credit for my good plays it would even out the imo unfair criticism. I dunno.

[Andrej]

 

So... About that game.

 

I had fun.

It was nice stomping around with you. With our big feets.

Likewise. I don't think we've actually Towned together before so that was a welcome change

[Al'Lan Mandragoran]

Mafia is confusing

[Krakalakachkn]

Mafia is confusing

 

Pipe down Tom.

[Tommyrod]

When I actually have messed up majorly in a mafia game it stays with me a loooong loooong time. I just think I get criticism at other times when it's not really warranted. And we're apparently different. If I screw up and people call me out for it, it WILL affect me. If I don't think I screwed up tho, and yet a bunch of people are still berating me, well it bothers me more so.

 

Tbh I'm drained after discussing this so much. I realize I'm sensitive. I don't want to make games unfun for others. I have a problem with letting real life frustration bleed into games sometimes. That's stuff I need to work on. I guess mebbe if I got more credit for my good plays it would even out the imo unfair criticism. I dunno.

Getting upset bothers everyone and colors you in a negative light. Humility helps. You sometimes come across as expecting or demanding to be praised. It's subtle but I see the undercurrents at times. It's a bad way to present yourself because that's not going to make people want to compliment you. Nobody likes a braggart. Usually the people most deserving of praise aren't seeking it. I'm always more impressed when I discover someone had a really interesting backstory or talent that they don't flaunt than when someone lets it be known how awesome he is. It might sound like a catch-22 of sorts but the more relaxed and confident you are and the less you seek praise the more people will naturally find you praiseworthy.

[Krakalakachkn]

Jk Lan, you did great for your first game (right?).  Look forward to playing with you in the future.

[dicetosser1]

Good game town

 

Thanks pral!!

 

 

 

Des  the point of asking you at the end why u were town was to CONFIRM my view on you. put it all in one place without all the emo/outrage crud that happened previously. It also gave me the chance to get krak responding and see if he went off on you. it was mostly aimed at krak actually.

 

 

 

BTW Despo I do challenge you to find the source of your "csarmi never gives in as scum" myth cause it's baseless. I legit suck at being mafia. Only time I held up after being obvious scum was Wombat's Tinker-Tailor game but there we just went yolo after towqn PR rolled all over us day 2. And it wasn't me playing wim or acting cool or anything, I just sat around and let town try and swelf-destruct but had no wim - they obviously did turn to lynch me st some point anyway. It wasn't me playing well there, it was town over-thinking my game.

 

I disagree with this. the first time we rolled scum together we had a 4 person team and 2 of them barely showed up til after we were dead. you worked you ASS off that game despite it being really easy to just give up. you even helped out after you died iirc

[Al'Lan Mandragoran]

On My honor as al'Lan Mandagoran, King of Malkier, It was my first game. But i'll take it as a compliment that people expressed doubts about that

[csarmi]

Lan was pretty good.

 

Now someone tell me how I soul read Arsis town cause I still dunno.

 

@BFG - I'm sorry I waffled in you. Also in a deep moment I totally forgot we should let you speak first. FTR: never send in your NA until you had your say.

[hazelkrs1]

Le sigh.

 

I wasn't trying to say I deserve to be praised or want to be praised but whatever I don't think I'm expressing myself very clearly so I'm going to stop while I'm way, way behind.

[Tommyrod]

Le sigh.

 

I wasn't trying to say I deserve to be praised or want to be praised but whatever I don't think I'm expressing myself very clearly so I'm going to stop while I'm way, way behind.

Basically just smoke more weed

[Hallia]

I'm ready to be home and do some CAH with everyone <3

[csarmi]

@Pral I loved the setup and it feels balanced. But turning vanilla upon viewing three townies is a pointless nerf. Never gonna come into play and even if it does game is prolly solved by then already in a 16 player game.

 

I did play as three shot cop once and it was practically as powerful as a full cop.

[Krakalakachkn]

On My honor as al'Lan Mandagoran, King of Malkier, It was my first game. But i'll take it as a compliment that people expressed doubts about that

 

It's the popular joke at the moment due to recent events.

[keyholder21]

I was actually right about Darthe and those posts were not alignment indicative - apparently he never read his role PM before that XD

Yay! Then I was right too!

[Krakalakachkn]

But also yes, a compliment.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Le sigh.

 

I wasn't trying to say I deserve to be praised or want to be praised but whatever I don't think I'm expressing myself very clearly so I'm going to stop while I'm way, way behind.

Basically just smoke more weed

Wish I could

 

[Tommyrod]

Krak, I thought your game was good and I was really reluctant to lynch you for that reason. I hope to see more games like that from you.