What does everyone want to see happen?

[Garat Jax]

I was just wondering what sort of things people were hoping would happen in the final book. Not the big major incidents but some little things that would just be cool.

 

For me personally, (please keep in mind I haven't yet had a chance to read the eleventh book so if this has happen already I’ll feel silly) I'd like to see Lan and Rand get together of another training session. It occurred to me when Lan was training with one of the male channellers that had become a warder (forget who it was) and was hardly breaking a sweet. I thought it would be very cool to see how far Rand's prowess with a sword has come in a sort of Now who is the Master type of deal.

 

PS Not sure who would win but it would be cool!

[Graendals favourite]

I'd love to hear Moiraine say once more: "The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills." Missed that.

[Moric]

Hmm... Would be fun to see how the organization develops in the Black Tower. Will the fractions we have already seen (like Mazrim Taim's faction and Ablar Logain's) and other we haven't become something like the Ajahs? Will the Asha'man turn into something more than just a weapon?

 

Moric of the Singing Wind sept of the Miagoma aiel

[alCal]

I'm longing to see what happens with the Two Rivers. I hope Perrin will bring Manetheren to life once again. ^^

 

And I agree with Moric, it would be fun to see what happens in the Black Tower. I myself hope that Taim and his followers will get their butts kicked. :lol:

Also, it would be interesting to know if the White and Black Tower unite, perhaps becoming a bit more like the AS during the AoL.

 

Oh, I hope Moiraine will return soon. I love her, and hopefully she could make all Aes Sedai a little more... like her, likable

 

Garat Jax, I won't tell you anything that happens in KoD, but it might be difficult for Rand and Lan to practise the sword together in the final book...

[Guest Winespring Brother]

I would like Rand to count from 1 to 3 for every time Cadusane snorts whilst he is talking, and then walk over and slap her round the face for her rudeness :P

 

Other than that, yeah, hearing Moraine say "the wheel weaves as the wheel wills" would bring a tear to my eye

[Bob T Dwarf]

I'd like to "hear" what Loial has to say to the Great Stump.

 

Then there's Mat and Tuon meeting again. That should be very interesting.

 

Tenobia catching up with Bashere might be amusing as well.

 

There's all those *'angreal that Elayne has collected. What will happen because of them?

 

It would be very instructive to find out why we have never seen any Aiel children. Where are they? Who's rearing them?

 

I still think that Avendesora has a bigger part to play than being a halltree for hanging reluctant heroes.

 

How do the Tinkers fit in? What's their role?

 

There's more, but those are enough to start with.

[Jellybelly]

I still think that Avendesora has a bigger part to play than being a halltree for hanging reluctant heroes.

 

It is a tree. It ties in with the whole "memory fades to legend" thing. But let us not take that whole "debate" again.

[Guest cwestervelt]

I still think that Avendesora has a bigger part to play than being a halltree for hanging reluctant heroes.

 

It is a tree. It ties in with the whole "memory fades to legend" thing. But let us not take that whole "debate" again.

 

It has already played its role and it was quite significant.

 

The Aiel took a clipping from it and brought it to Cairhien where it was planted and Avendoraldera grew.

The Laman cut Avendoraldera down to use the wood for his throne.

For clans of Aiel crossed the Dragonwall to execute Laman for his sin/pride. Among them was Shail (or whatever name Tigraine took.)

The Aiel made it all the way to Dragonmount before Laman was killed enabling Shail to give birth to Rand on the slopes of Dragonmount.

[Jellybelly]

A nobler purpose can hardly be found in Randland. And besides, it is just a tree. There were millions of them in the AoL. There is nothing special about it, other than having soothing qualities. Its legend has outgrown the facts about it, and that is all. It is not literally "the Tree of Life". If it is killed the world will not die. It is a construct.

[Ortham.Vega.]

Forgive my bad grammar.

 

there is a few things that are going to happen

 

 

Mat is going to somehow invent the cannon or simialr gun ,

the age is going to pass and a new one come, this will be the age of the gun or more like our modern age , just my idea im shure others have same ideas.

rand will somehow or other be in a fight with the DO , he will die but save the world.

the damn tinkers will find that song

and there will be many thousands of wolves that join the frey .

im kind of thinking that after this fight that the one power will die out in humans and randland will come to a newer age of machienes but im fully confident that it will be a huge book ,

ohh i almost forgot that fain i believe will kill the DO somehow

 

[A Demon Llama!]

Not that I don't like Rand, but I would like to see him die, like the prophesies foretell, and stay that way. I don't want for him to manage to get out alive, although I'm sure that's exactly what will happen. 

[dubz]

I want to see a dark victory for once, like capturing all the borderland cities in a weekend or the capture of caemlyn or cairhien not total but I want them to succeed in something.  So far it has been all forces of the light.  I want to see the world filled with blood death and destruction.  main characters dying. hardships and troublesome situations. Just as you would picture the last battle to be.  not just a cakewalk for the forces of the light. i dont want it to be too predictable. 

[Jethro]

I want to see Moridin kill someone significant-like Gawyn, or Galad, or both.

 

And I also want to see Moridin in a non-Rand channeling fight before the Rand one. Like ten Aes Sedai and several Ashaman, all linked, and Moridin absolutely kicks the crap out of them. All of them. Seriously, I want the group to be roaming hunting Shadowspawn so they'll be ready and linked, maybe even with Callandor in their midst, but Moridin steps out on his own and lays waste. Im talking epic here, Moridin smashing the circle itself so it disrupts within seconds of his arrival, buildings around them collapsing, rubble flying all over the place, Moridin using Saidin and the True Power simultaneously in weave after desructive weave, blasting the hell out of everything. And in the calm after he kills every single one of them he will note that he isnt even tired.

[Tyrell]

Is there anything to indicate Moridin is anywhere near that strong in the power?

 

Rand couldn't do that so neither could Moridin.

[Jethro]

Well, for one thing Rand and Moridin are on equal par and very early in the books Rand notes to himself he can handle ten or more flows at once. Moridin uses the True Power which means neither Aes Sedai nor Ashaman know how to react, and on top of that Moridin is a channeler from the Age of Legends meaning he has a crapload more skill than any Third Age channeler.

 

Trust me. He could do it.

[Mr Ares]

Trust me.

No.

He could do it.

No. A group of the size you suggest would massively overpower Moridin. He could kill a few, but to kill 10 Aes Sedai, several Asha'man, all linked, possibly with Callandor without any effort is ridiculous.

[Jethro]

Well, agree to disagree then. Callandor may have been a stretch but the rest would have been possible I think. Considering Moridin can sense whether or not people are linked, ala the Watchers PoV, I think if the first thing he did was to disrupt the circle with Saidin would put them off guard. Then unleash a couple of True Power destructives at the Ashaman, they will be next to helpless having not detected any weaves or channeling from a man. And then the Aes Sedai would fall wasily enough. I think he could do it assuming the Aes Sedai are of average strength and taking into account how much more skill AoL channelers had compared to nowadays. Anyway its not that important, it probably wouldn't happen even if I am right.

[Tyrell]

Disrupt the circle? How? 

 

Without the access key to the male Choedan Kal Moridin wouldn't have the power to shield such a circle with callandor running through it. Undoubtedly with the element of surprise and wielding the True Power he could take a few of them out, but he'd still need line of sight and it'd only be a matter of time before they turn their superior firepower his way.

[lt;(^-^)gt;]

Destruction on the scale of the War of Power, major cities razed, and a genuinely tragic victory for the Light.

[Jethro]

Disrupt the circle? How?

 

Well, me thinking this is possible is based on an assumption, so get your guns out everyone.

 

So far in Wheel of Time as far as I can remember, if a channeler senses something he can interact with it. Examples include Rand encountering Fains trap in TGH (this was woven of an evil that as far as we know doesnt draw power from any source we know of, yet Rand sensed it and so was able to destroy it), Nynaeve delving Logain (she sensed something having been cut, so she repaired it) and finally and possibly most relevant, Rand sensed the black cord coming from Asmodean, and removed it.

 

Moridin, in the Watchers PoV, was aware of Graendal and Sammaels circle, and was able to distinguish somehow that it was Sammael that had let the linkj disolve, and not Graendal. I doubt very much that Moridin can merely tell when people are linked; from an Age where the One Power had advanced pretty much as far as our technology has, I think they would have figured out the ins and outs of circles beyond the basic male-female ratios. Like how to counter them.

 

As I said, I believe that if channelers are aware of something, they can interact with it. Moridin seems to be able to see-if not, then sense somehow-channelers linked. I reckon he could do something about it. I think a circle can be disrupted without simply shielding everyone in it, although theres nothing to support either way. I reckon Moridin would be able to handle more than we know.

 

Anyway, my post earlier is basically based on me wanting Moridin to be actually worth the wait. Ishamael went down too easily in the first place. I accept that Moridin probably would have to be lucky to beat the group I said, I just hope he doesnt fall so easily. I mean, whats the point of being as strong as Rand if you're just guna roll over and die?

 

One thing I wonder about is this. Do we have any knowledge of whether or not channeling the True Power tires the person like channeling the True Source does? Because the True Power, as far as we know, doesnt necessarily go off strength. Nothing in the channeler allows him to channel it, it is the Dark Ones will. I know channeling is a prerequisite, but channeler strength doesnt come into it I think.

 

Wild speculation.

[sillyman]

 

As I said, I believe that if channelers are aware of something, they can interact with it. Moridin seems to be able to see-if not, then sense somehow-channelers linked. I reckon he could do something about it. I think a circle can be disrupted without simply shielding everyone in it, although theres nothing to support either way. I reckon Moridin would be able to handle more than we know.

 

 

Perhaps a weave of spirit similar to the shield would be able to break the circle by slicing the link between the members but I imagine he would have to have a very powerful sa'angreal(Callandor, Choedan Kal, unnamed sa'angreal mentioned by lanfear) to achieve this against a large mixed circle.

 

oh and a Lan vs Rand fight would be awesome but i reckon Lan would still win.

Lan v Rhuarc or Mat would be more even i rekon, the ultimate clash of the martial masters.

also Lan meeting Tam would be cool too me thinks.

 

 

[Jethro]

A Lan vs Rand fight would be great. It could come about as well; maybe when Rand sees Moiraine he thinks it some sort of Shadowspawn trick and charges at her, Lan dives in and they fight, but the fight is interupted when Moiraine mentions something only she knew, like the coins she gave Rand Mat and Perrin in EotW.

[Mr Ares]

oh and a Lan vs Rand fight would be awesome but i reckon Lan would still win.

Given the loss of Rand's hand, I'd say he has no chance against Lan in a fight unless he used the Power. In which case, Lan has pretty much no chance against him.

[Sabio]

pfff Loss of a hand didn't seem to slow Luke Skywalker down to much.  :D

[FootstepsofDeath]

I want to see a few things....

 

Moiraine coming back. She is epic.

 

Lews Therin taking the OP from Rand again. He pulled out some pretty awesome weaves in KoD. I couldn't believe that the idea of using gateways like that did not occur to anyone before he used them.

 

Lan with his long lost army of Malkieri

 

Egwene vs Elaida

 

Logain vs Taim

 

And finally....Moridin vs Rand