Thom and the Myrddral

[Graendals favourite]

Yea, seems he should be younger. The lone possibility would be, that the thing where he'd be able to channel was rare for him, though it seems that people who can channel will channel, whether they want to or not.

 

I reread the passage, and it said an eye-searing blue flash. It doesn't sound like the blades meeting flashes. But what makes an eye-searing blue flash?

[Jedimuppet]

Yea' date=' seems he should be younger. The lone possibility would be, that the thing where he'd be able to channel was rare for him, though it seems that people who can channel will channel, whether they want to or not.

 

I reread the passage, and it said an eye-searing blue flash. It doesn't sound like the blades meeting flashes. But what makes an eye-searing blue flash?[/quote']

 

His one power wrought blades meeting a Fade's Thakan'dar blade?

J

[Graendals favourite]

Aah, yes, those are bright too. "Like sheet lightning."

 

I've been so long at Asmodean I don't know anything else... :P

[Jedimuppet]

Aah' date=' yes, those are bright too. "Like sheet lightning."

 

I've been so long at Asmodean I don't know anything else... :P[/quote']

 

Be careful; that thread eats souls...

;)

J

[Graendals favourite]

That it does, that it does...

[Guest Majsju]

Maybe Thom's knives were Thakan'dar-wrought... :lol:

[Guest cwestervelt]

Maybe he had some flash powder in his bag of Gleeman's tricks. Thom's daggers aren't supposed to have had nothing to do with the flashes.

 

http://www.dromen-demonen.nl/luitingh_htdocs/transjordan.html

[Malivar> If a Fades blade will not produce lighting except against other Thakandar wrought blades, and power-wrought blades, Why do Thom's daggers produce it when he attacks the Fade at Whitebridge?

[@R-JORDAN> thoms daggers did not produce the effect. It was produced before thom reached the fade.

[dalic]

cwestervelt i think you are right about thom using a flash goody of some kind. the simplest answer is usually true and that is so simple can't believe i missed it.

[Bob T Dwarf]

That's what I meant, CW. Jordan contradicts himself on the blue flash in Whitebridge.

NY, NY: why was there a blue light flashing when Thom met the fade in whitebridge?

 

Robert Jordan: Because Thom's best knives are very special indeed.

 

So which is it? Was the flash before Thom got there, or did his knives produce it?

[son of battles]

It definately happened after he got there. I read it a couple of times to make sure. I think his knives had to make it, I'm not sure what else it could have been.

[Sato]

Thats not what RJ said, and I'm more prone to believe the writer than I am a reader.

[Jedimuppet]

Didn't Rj write that thom's blades are special and that only one power blades flash blue when hitting myrdraal blades?

 

I'm not sure what we should conclude except that thom has OP blades...and that they're special.

 

J

[BSDBovine]

but as someone stated before, there are not his best knies, they are his 2nd best. There is the possability it is Rand again, he did use lightning to his advantage later along the road to Camylen as well

[Sato]

But had it been Rand, something would have been written about him doing it. Besides, I don't remember very well, but didn't it say that the flash was seen indirectly. Male channelers subconciously feel the requirement to see where they are channeling, so it couldn't have been Rand. I'm stickin with Thom channeling or somehow getting explosives.

[Digbe]

gotta be somethin otherwise, thoms a darky...

[The Lost One]

I have always thought there was a possibilty that Thom could channel and that is what he did to stop the Myrddral.  Remember his nephew could channel, so why not him?  I just think he doesn't touch the power unless absolutely necessary - whether he knows it or not, so he has really not been affected by the taint.   

 

There is also a seen later in the books - where he and Tuon's lady servant - Selucia (sp?) - fight some others outside a "Hell" and they both surprise each other with what they do in the fight - but they agree to keep each other's secret.  Did someone channel then? hmmmm

[Digbe]

Matt would have known if at least the female channeled..

[Ealdur Tinuviel]

Okay,

 

1) Those were indeed Thom's best knives. He actually used his second best knives in Shadar Logoth when he threw them at the Trollocs. (EotW, paperback 304, Dust on the Wind

 

2) There is also a blue flash that occurs when Lan has to face the Myrdraal just before they head to Shadar Logoth. (EotW, paperback 265, Caemlyn Road

 

I don't know that Thom would want anything to do with the OP or Aes Sedai after what they did to Owen. But obviously he doesn't want to use his best knives for some reason. Now this could just be because they are better than the others, and can't be replaced as easily. Or not, I don't know.

[Littel me]

It is Thom that keeps Selucia secert, he say something like:

 

I'm an old man and sometimes I see thing that dont actuelle happen, but lukkelig I quikly forgets it again.

 

He is refering to the fact that Selucia is Tuons secert boydyguard and a vary able figther.

[Luckers]

All I can add to this is that RJ stated at DragonCon2005 that he knew both why Thom survived the encounter with the Myrdraal, and why he survived the injury he recieved from the Myrdraal's blade, which should have poisoned him, but that he would not reveal those reasons.

[trakand01]

Before anyone says "He was court bard to Morgase etc etc" I know the history that we are given for Thom, but I have a question;

 

Who is he? Who WAS he?

 

I'm not naive enough to believe that the very sketchy history is everything there is to know about Thom, and I'm sure i'm not the only one. I havent read book 11 yet so please dont spoil anything apart from the answer to this question if its' in there!!

 

Thanks

[Guest cwestervelt]

Thom isn't anything other than he what he appears to be.

 

The way you made your statement, it sounds like you are suspecting a Hero of the Horn.  Sorry, but that is unlikely.

[trakand01]

I wasnt suspecting a Hero for the Horn but I had thought perhaps a Warder or something such.

[Guest cwestervelt]

Nope.  What you see is what you get.  We probably have about as complete a back history for Thom as we do for anyone.  More complete than many of the characters.

[TheRedSon]

Do we know anything about Thom before he began working for House Trakand?  He was apparently known in Cairhien.  He had to have been at least in his middle years (or later) already when Elayne was born. 

 

So what did he do for the first half (or more) of his life?

 

Incidentally, I know Thom earned his limp from the skirmish with the Fade at Whitebridge, but do we know he was injured by the blade?  There's any number of ways to gain a limp after a fight for your life after all and if Thom was cut or stabbed with the blade he would be dead or healed by the power which shouldn't have left a limp.