MAFIA - **STARGATE SG1** - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[WWWwombat]

Basel is basing two town reads on the assumption that RTE is scum but is still voting Berf. Even if he has a strong scum read on Berf, that makes no sense from an info standpoint.

 

unvote

Vote: Basel

[WWWwombat]

Also, Basel's RTE mini-case is terrible. Looks forced as hell.

[WWWwombat]

Lynch preference:

 

Basel

Pralaya

Dice

[Niel an' Tyomn]

Why wouldn't you replace Dice with Berf? 

[Turin Turambar]

The lowest poster is Dice, followed by Turin

 This is or at least was a fact. I haven't looked.

 

you wanna shoot me Dap?

[Turin Turambar]

It wasn't in this quoted post but Why did you feel the need to try to discredit anything I would say later as "tunneling" when it was my first post of the game? I would think a tunnel would require multiple attempts while ignoring any other option. I am reading everything and there are some other options that I will have to look at since there doesn't appear to be anyone else willing to vote you. There are a few that are thinking you could be mafia but have others in their sights first.

 

My intial comment is in response to the assertion that I am better playing without Ithi. It sounds like a bit of a dig at her and I would appreciate that there be no further deprecating remarks about her since she is not allowed to respond in here. 

Oh and the Dakr Blue response was in tribute.

 

Okay on to your responses... I will go with everything before the part you quoted. FLUFF is any non game related posting. It is okay to have fun but IMO it would be better to separate the fluff posts from the content posts. It looks like the fluff is there just to inflate the size of the  WoT. I would say it is Jordanesque and not Michael. I did not make your post do anything. You can say DM made it difficult to reply but I would say that the mass of unrelated quotes makes for very difficult reading. Tell you what I will keep from using colours if you will keep your serious posts free of fluff.

 

Still waiting on the evidence on how the RTE "joke" vote was backed up by other "joke" votes to hide the single vote placed on RTE.

 

I read your explanation of how Not Bob "slipped" that was what I thought was a stretch on your part. It looked like a case of throwing anything out there and seeing if anything will stick.

 

I disagree about the thought that Darthe was stretching too much in voting Not Bob exclusively for nudging the cindy lynch. It is a common mafia tactic. Many a mafia has been undone by nudging.  

 

I miss playing with Ithi   It always made Day 1 active and fun...
 
Look at this WoT. It is full of fluff.

 
This pretty much comprises most of your case against me. Turrible. Fluff is when you substitute actual game thoughts and opinions with nothing. If I feel like taking a break between uncovering all kinds of mafia plots to also have some fun, that's completely my prerogative dude. Fluff is what you accuse someone of who ISN'T taking any kind of definitive stance on anything and just tries floating by. Trying to use that to describe my behavior this game is ridiculous.

And again, you play better without Ithi.

Be glad I'm responding to anything you said at all btw. In the process of trying to antagonize me with the whole color coding thing, you made it so when I tried responding to your post it kept continuously deleting big chunks of the quote, making the process extremely frustrating to say the least.

From what I remember:

You asked me to show the "joke" votes that came after RTE's questionable "joke" vote. I'll do so in a sec. Otherwise your only points here had to do with the verbiage I used. Extremely weak. You've seen me post "fluff" in wot's and use similar wording in many other games before.

You're apparently skimming, because I already explained the NotBob scumslip. By saying that Darthe couldn't find scum if it hit him in the face, NotBob was also sort of making the assumption that Darthe was town to begin with, and since it seemed too early to me to have a strong town read on Darthe, it could have been NotBob letting it slip that he had advance knowledge of other's alignments... making him mafia. Granted, this could be nothing, but I felt it worth pointing out. I wasn't speculating about a gambit between NotBob and Darthe, tho obviously that is possible as well.

What else was there... oh yeah speaking of NotBob, it seems fairly obvious that he was joking when he said "he could vote Cindy for not playing enough". Darthe voting him solely for that reason would have been extremely suspect to say the least, so he felt the need to add in the bit about the little personal stuff between him and NotBob. And as I have mentioned already, Darthe has made a point of ignoring that stuff in all kinds of other recent games, so why mention it here?

Don't really remember anything else besides the stuff that came after the quote, which I will get to now:
 

1. The pile des resistance:  more of the conditional words, funny that you chose to use the word fluff for him. Also you chastise him for having no serious reads and in the next sentence you say it is early for a list. That reads as that is a bit early to have much in the way of reads. Followed by a coat-tailing/copying/sheeping argument. Now if there isn't much going on then people will comment on the same thing and it is possible that they will reach the same conclusions. I don't read all the games but I have seen the Darthe baiting and baited tactics a few times. Your entire list of reasons is a bunch of poo. Why does the FoS on Basel Stink? it depends on what the meaning of the word is (cavalier) is?
 
2. Finally jumping on the highest vote receiver in a convenient middle to lynch location. (spot #4 of 10 at the time of his vote)
 
3. 75% of this post is unneeded and is there to make it a "real" WoT. instead of a few BS comments.
 
4. Also his letting Dap's partial vig claim go by without any real comment is out of character IMO. I have heard the either claim or don't clam but do not hint (or partial claim).

 
1. I do think it was too early for a list by that point, but if you're going to do one it should actually have SOME kind of definitive opinions or reads. And sheeping in general is a scumtell; of course there are times that a townie might do it as well, but the same can be said of ANY scumtell. I think Berf is mafia, I think he was trying to use Basel's list as a way of trying to look townie, and his list of reads was garbage. I have also seen a couple of other pings from him as well recently. Your hardcore defense of him is noted.
 
2. Bahahaha! Really? The vote placement argument?   I thought you were better than that Turin. Only way I see you seriously trying to use that was if you were scum and felt your case was too flimsy to begin with, so you better add some cheesy argument as well.
 
3. This is essentially your biggest mark against me. That I took too much time enjoying myself while catching up in the game.
 
4. Nope. Try again Turin. I responded to Dap's Vig claim, which came AFTER the wot you quoted of mine. I'll fetch it for you.
 

Actually Turins points aren't wrong.. Des?

 

First you try buddying me, then you follow along with Turin's terrible case on me? Let those scum colors fly Darthe.

 

Why was Berf's FoS of Basel scummy?

 

1. Town sheep worse than mafia in general. That is the cause of many mislynches. Especially if the mafia has someone willing to step forward and push for lynches. And I don't know if Berf is town or not but your reasoning in voting him is faulty in my eyes.

 

2. It isn't just that the vote went in at #4 (avoiding spot #3, lol) it is also that your vote was for the only real train. pushing it along and keeping the momentum going. Another mafia tactic. Get someone out in front and hope that it ends up with votes for "consolidation"

 

3. Being mafia makes Despo happy so he likes to have fun.

 

4. Reply is one thing but it looked like you were not really looking to discuss much about said claim. Maybe because he was talking about shooting the lowest posters so you were safe.

 

 

 

I think you are mafia but as there seems to be little support for my choice I will take another look at the other candidates. We do need to get a controlled lynch here after all.

[Turin Turambar]

Why wouldn't you replace Dice with Berf? 

He apparently thinks Dice more likely to be mafia than Berf. Are you nervous that Dice is on Wombat's list?

 

Unvote. Vote Pral.

 

Comes in and follows the lead.

Are you saying that Pral followed the lead onto you? I am having difficulty understanding tonight I think. I may need to sleep.

 

I don't buy all of these votes on rte. I am skeptical on Dap myself, so I'm comfortable with following his lead.

 

Unvote

Vote Pral

Explain the bold please. you are skeptical of someone but comfortable following their lead? Like I said I may be reading this totally wrong.

[dapianoplay3r]

 

The lowest poster is Dice, followed by Turin

 

 This is or at least was a fact. I haven't looked.

 

you wanna shoot me Dap?

Dice had one less post than you at the time I posted that

By now I think it has changed

 

And to if I want to shoot you, meh. Yours neither here nor there for me right now

[WWWwombat]

I agree with Des. You are better at playing without Ithi. That's not a dig at her. It's a criticism of your play. I have yet to see you play a game with Ithi where you play impartially with respect to her.

[dapianoplay3r]

Lol guess who's second lowest ATM after dice

Pral

[Locke]

I agree with Darthe on this RTE train. RTE's play is sliding into "so bad it's town" territory and these latest votes look very opportunistic.

 

unvote

Vote: Berf

Still suspicious of Berf?

 

 

Not liking these latest 2 Pralya votes:

 

I don't buy all of these votes on rte. I am skeptical on Dap myself, so I'm comfortable with following his lead.

 

Unvote

Vote Pral

 

This doesn't look the best.  You've been mostly silent all game long, and then you jump on this bandwagon without posting any thoughts except you don't "buy all of these votes of rte".  (and like Turin said, I don't understand the second half.)

 

 

you both still voting berf?

 

any opinion on pray and dice?

 

 

Going to 

 

unvote 

 

 

vote Pral (or Pray) 

 

 

I want to hear more out of him, yes I understand RL issues, but I'm still curious.

 

I don't even know what you're referring to in that last line, but it doesn't seem like a solid voting reason regardless. (although, this is fairly consistent with how you've been playing this game)  

 

My lynch list:

 

1)Basel. I've been suspicious since his Berf vote, and he's done absolutely nothing to alleviate that since.

2)RTE. Still pretty big on RTE.  He spent the first portion of the game spamming without much content, and then when he finally does start posting seriously, it's to vote for a claimed vig role.  Posts since have not been good.

3)Pralaya. I think his there are some questionable votes on him right now, but his reaction to pressure was not good at all. 

 

I'd prefer Basel or RTE. Not only are they scummier imo, but how their alignment flips would give more intel than Pralaya, as they've had more overall interaction. 

[Talya]

You carried on firing, there just seemed to so many of them, but slowly you released that the numbers were dropping, you were winning. Or so you thought until Niel ran out screaming at them, firing his gun, he got a few, but his gun jammed and the horror rose on his face as they came towards him. It wasn't long before two replicators were crawling up him, his screams echoing around the corridor. A couple of you ran to his aid, as the others continued to fire at the replicators. he was dragged off semi concious and taken off to the infirmary. 

 

A few minutes later you realised the guns had gone quiet and no tap, tap, tapping of the replicators could be heard. For the moment the replicator situation was subdued. 

 

In case you are wondering why...he didn't colour code his "Blast them" but did colour code other stuff in his post. After the pages of the trouble and I said I would not be so lenient I took it as a fail. 

 

VOTE COUNT

 

 

Berf (4):  Niel,  Des, Basel, Dap, 

Basel (3): Csarmi, Locke, Berf

Desp (1): Turin

RTE (3): NotBob,  Dice, Pral

Pral (4): Wombat, cindy, RTE, Hally

 

With 18 left it takes 10 to lynch

 

You have just over 12 hours left!

[ineedfourberfs]

@MOD - So ala Darthe, should Niel be off my train? Please and thank you. Not to mention he unvoted and voted Praya.

 

And is Wombat voting Basel at this stage?

 

 

OK I'm not really here tonight (yay beer!) or more than likely for deadline (boo 4am), but I'm a chump so no doubt I'll check it a bit later.

 

We are running out of time. 11 Hours. 

 

 

 

If it isn't me (and I'm on 3), Basel is the highest train with 4 and we need 6 people to jump on.

It appears we won't have Darthe or Niel.

 

It is getting to the stage where you should have some reads, and a good idea of what is happening with the game. 

 

My thoughts -

 

Berf - TAF. *shrug* what do you want me to say I'm repeating myself here, but I've put myself out there. You should have an opinion formed.

Basel - Minimal casing of other people, poor reasons and continued reasoning for voting for me (In the red indeed, what about the millions of other posts I've made?), not the best handled defense or offense. 

RTE - Focusing on DAP when DAP wasn't/didn't need to be the issue, and fits the profile of mafia floating through early day 1 and trying to pick an easy target when called out on it. Possible Basel distancing.

Praya - Again with the WIFOM. In bed sick, but that isn't something that has prevented him from posting generally so why bring it up? Not convinced mafia here.

 

 

Basel is leading train, not to mention near everyone has weighed in on the situation so there is info to be gained. RTE vote could pick up momentum, I think there is a good chance of mafia there given the above, too. I don't think a Praya case will take off at this stage in the day.

 

So my vote is on, and will remain on Basel up until lynch or it is required elsewhere. I know it won't go random, but don't let it get crazy. The closer to deadline, the easier it is for mafia to ruin it. 

[csarmi]

@mod: so is Niel aalive?

[csarmi]

Fail

[hazelkrs1]

Okay caught up but first things first-

 

Talya I actually unvoted, it was a while back and it was in the middle of a wot, so probably easy to miss. Sorry about that, I'll try to put votes in a separate post or at the top or bottom of it or something.

 

THIS actually looked like a much more "townie" post from you Berf. Much more definitive in your reads, you don't fall for the whyme=fryme trap, fairly sound in general.

 

I'll admit that Basel hasn't responded as well as you have to pressure, but then Basel is just kinda like that. Rare to see him fight his own lynch that strenuously. But I still feel your original "list" of reads was much worse than his. Anyways unvote for now.

 

Next gonna respond to Turin then finish up with other stuff real quick. I'm kinda under the weather atm so I don't wanna make any crazy long wot posts. Plus there's a deadline shortly arriving so prob not the time for it anyways.

[hazelkrs1]

1. It wasn't in this quoted post but Why did you feel the need to try to discredit anything I would say later as "tunneling" when it was my first post of the game? I would think a tunnel would require multiple attempts while ignoring any other option. I am reading everything and there are some other options that I will have to look at since there doesn't appear to be anyone else willing to vote you. There are a few that are thinking you could be mafia but have others in their sights first.

 

2. My intial comment is in response to the assertion that I am better playing without Ithi. It sounds like a bit of a dig at her and I would appreciate that there be no further deprecating remarks about her since she is not allowed to respond in here. 

Oh and the Dakr Blue response was in tribute.

 

3. Okay on to your responses... I will go with everything before the part you quoted. FLUFF is any non game related posting. It is okay to have fun but IMO it would be better to separate the fluff posts from the content posts. It looks like the fluff is there just to inflate the size of the  WoT. I would say it is Jordanesque and not Michael. I did not make your post do anything. You can say DM made it difficult to reply but I would say that the mass of unrelated quotes makes for very difficult reading. Tell you what I will keep from using colours if you will keep your serious posts free of fluff.

 

4. Still waiting on the evidence on how the RTE "joke" vote was backed up by other "joke" votes to hide the single vote placed on RTE.

 

5. I read your explanation of how Not Bob "slipped" that was what I thought was a stretch on your part. It looked like a case of throwing anything out there and seeing if anything will stick.

 

6. I disagree about the thought that Darthe was stretching too much in voting Not Bob exclusively for nudging the cindy lynch. It is a common mafia tactic. Many a mafia has been undone by nudging.  

 

7. Why was Berf's FoS of Basel scummy?

 

1a. Town sheep worse than mafia in general. That is the cause of many mislynches. Especially if the mafia has someone willing to step forward and push for lynches. And I don't know if Berf is town or not but your reasoning in voting him is faulty in my eyes.

 

2a. It isn't just that the vote went in at #4 (avoiding spot #3, lol) it is also that your vote was for the only real train. pushing it along and keeping the momentum going. Another mafia tactic. Get someone out in front and hope that it ends up with votes for "consolidation"

 

3a. Being mafia makes Despo happy so he likes to have fun.

 

4a. Reply is one thing but it looked like you were not really looking to discuss much about said claim. Maybe because he was talking about shooting the lowest posters so you were safe.

 

1. It was a bit of a joke to say you were tunneling on me already, but you know as well as I do that when we play together you often tunnel on me. We've been through this many times. Dunno if it's because my playstyle just pings in general to you, or what.

 

2. See that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. You perceive slights against Ithi even when there haven't necessarily been any. As a matter of fact I think both you and Ithi are great mafia players, and I hope Ithi comes back to playing mafia soon. I never said anything disparaging about her. It's just my opinion that yall play better without the other one in the game. I think yall let the bond influence your gameplay a bit too much, and there have been too many times that the game got distracted from regular gameplay to discuss the bond.

 

As for the dark blue thing, are you telling me the color was used solely because of a tribute to Ithi, and had NOTHING to do with you trying to antagonize me because I had recently talked about how annoying it is to respond to such posts?

 

3.

 Tell you what I will keep from using colours if you will keep your serious posts free of fluff.

 

 

Fair enough. I don't put "fluff" in my posts to make a wot bigger, I know enough people have trouble getting through my wot's as it is, I don't want them to be completely ignored. And I usually don't add much "fluff" to a wot once the game is going, but when Im first catching up there's usually some stuff that others have said that I thought was funny or something, and I like acknowledging it. But I'll try to keep wot's for game stuff only for this game to make you happy.

 

4. Here you go Turin:

 

 

 

Vote: RTE

 

This was the initial vote on RTE. I quoted the next few consecutive posts:

 

Hai

 

Vote Lenlo

 

For Nostalgia 

 

Wooh, HYPE!  

 

And also, something to do at school.  =D

 

VOTE MCS.

 

 

Vote Lenlo

 

For Nostalgia 

:(

 

First game together in the BT since then, you can trust me. Cmoooon.

 

 

 

 

Vote Lenlo

 

For Nostalgia 

:(

 

First game together in the BT since then, you can trust me. Cmoooon.

 

 

Is it really? Didn't realize that.

 

Annnnnnnnnnnnd nope. 

 

 

Digging berf for the early sarcasm.

 

vote locke

 

Vote Cindy

 

Because she doesn't play enough 

 

Lenlo and RTE have a little bit of back and forth banter, Locke places what looks like a joke vote, Darthe places what looks like one on Locke, and Hallia places one on Cindy. After this NotBob has a bunch of posts of his own, mostly just commenting on minor stuff and joking a bit.

 

Out of that group I doubt Locke is scum, he seems pretty townie to me this game. Other than that tho I have slight suspicion of the rest of the group, if RTE is mafia I think there might be at least one other scumbuddy in there who tried helping him make everything look trivial at that point.

 

 

5.  It was one of my first posts of the game. I was trying to look at anything that could help lead me to a mafia trail. Also, the "throw anything at the wall to see what sticks" is practically a buzzword for you and a couple other folks. Dropping rehearsed buzzphrases like that make me suspect of you.

 

6. I completely agree that nudging a train is a scumtell, I just don't think that's what NotBob was doing right there. Just seemed to be him spamming along and trying to be friendly. Trying to use that as evidence for a vote seemed silly then, and still seems silly to me now.

 

7. Do you mean Berf's vote on Basel? I thought the vote seemed a bit contrived at the time, the reasoning seemed poor. His reasoning was essentially that Basel shouldn't have voted Berf for sheeping him, when I think voting someone for sheeping you seems like a legitimate reason to vote someone.

 

1a. I think town will mainly sheep more when it's closer to a deadline. You'll get some bandwagoners, but those sort don't usually hide what they're doing (take Nol and Dap for instance, both like bandwagoning a train just to help get a game more active). I think if there isn't an impending deadline then mafia are more likely to sheep to try and blend in.

 

2a. You're putting out somewhat contradictory notions here. Earlier you said that sheeping or bandwagoning isn't that big a deal early on, because there's not as much to respond to and more people are likely to see the same type of thing. Now you're trying to act like me adding on a 4th vote to someone a few others found scummy at the time is questionable. Which is it? You see why I say that you tunnel me? You excuse others for doing the same thing you accuse me of doing.

 

3a.

Being Playing mafia makes Despo happy so he likes to have fun

 

 

FTFY. And I've said this before, and I'll say it again. My favorite role to receive is vanilla town, it lets me be as open and as gutsy as I want to be.

 

4a. Actually, at the time I WAS one of the lowest posters. I've been a bit busy at work lately, so I'm prob still not that high up. Either way I support the concept because it promotes activity. Notice how when he said that, activity started to rise again?

 

Furthermore in my eyes he had claimed an ability that is somewhat vettable, and there wasn't much point in prying for more details or anything. Only the mafia team would benefit from more info about his role, and if he's lying and there's another Vig out there they'll likely shoot him tonight for us and solve the issue. Either way, there's not really a whole lot to discuss about it. Vig is one of the roles I'm fine with people claiming a bit early, I don't think it's that harmful to town for one to out himself.

 

 

 

Okay now other stuff real quick, spent too much time on this response as it is.

[csarmi]

I'll be around and fine to consolidate if need be. I'm trying to keep up with the game, but not really succeeding for now.

[Niniel]

Basel is basing two town reads on the assumption that RTE is scum but is still voting Berf. Even if he has a strong scum read on Berf, that makes no sense from an info standpoint.

 

unvote

Vote: Basel

 

I agree. 

 

Vote Basel

[hazelkrs1]

Alright so Darthe and Niel have been... replicated I guess? At least it looks like no more can be. Wonder what might come out of that.

 

@Cindy/Berf: Regardless of what kind of traps or w/e they were, trying to raise attention to others possibly hitting them def doesn't seem like a protown thing to do. If yall both felt that something negative might happen for those who set off the triggers, why would you try to bring more attention to them? It still amounts to the same thing as when someone tries drawing a mod's attention to someone breaking the rules, it looks like you were trying to make sure the mod noticed those who didn't post the key phrase. At the time, I thought it might even be possible that it was a sort of activity check from the mod.

 

Also, CSarmi mock emorage ftl.

 

edit for quoting fail
 

 

Back to the game:@DapSo you claim that you are town and you got at least one Vig shot? Anything more? Is that your exact claim? Can you be precise?

Didnt despo or someone literally just post about how asking for more info was a scummy thing? Did you not read that?
If you must know I'm an insane, lynch proof, cop with Vig shots and eye lasers.
I can't character claim but I think it's pretty obvious

(For anyone feeling particularly dense tonight; yes that was a joke, I'm not giving you anymore info. Suck it)

 

I don't care what Despo thinks is scummy, he has a horrible judgement.
I'm not asking you to reveal more (unless you want to). I'm asking you to make a clear statement.

 

 

Firstly, I resemble the remark about my horrible judgement. Second, dude! Rolefish harder plz! "(unless you want to)" reminds of that "Hot in Herre" song "I got a friend with a pole in the basement. (what?) I'm just kidding like Jason (oh).... unless you gonna do it"

 

 

The term buddying gets tossed around much too loosely IMO.

I see your buddying and raise you a scummy vibe.

 

 

 

Getting strong scum vibes from RTE now.

No idea what he did earlier, but his opinion on Dap's "play" pings.

 

Just found this kinda funny. Right after Wombat mentions the "scummy vibe" thing, CS then uses that exact phrase lol

 

BLAST THEM

Sorry, I am down with flu. Anyway, I had my main suspicion on Basel but seeing some of the responses from him I think he seems to be town. 

 

Especially when his actions is what a typical town who rushes off to vote and gets cornered. 

 

I did read the game, and those are the impressions I had. It's Day 1, when no one can be sure of anything. So we have to figure out who needs to be watched more. I gave what was going through my mind as I read the game, and that included the possibilities that some of the people I caught a vibe from could go either way. If I say who I think is worth watching further, that should count for something more than just "noncommittal WIFOM", which much more accurately describes what Berf put out after me (and in his case, was significantly less original after my reads).

 

RTE seems more suspicious, especially after he took an opportunistic move against dap when he said that he will shoot inactive people. It looks like he is trying to drive town into voting him and that right there is scummy

 

vote RTE

 

Rory, to the underlined: Are you saying that RTE is trying to drive town into voting him? Why would scum want to do that? I def don't follow you there.

 

 

speaking of paranoia... you and dice didn't quite get the trigger right either....

Word.

@Mod: Is Notbob's blast counted as if it were correct too?

 

 

and yet you claim not to understand what I'm paranoid about here.

so... why would that bother you now?

 

^ I agree with Cindy here. After CS went all emo at people questioning his thing, and then being obtuse about not going to wiki anything, for him to suddenly act concerned about the trap sets off major red flags for me.

 

 

 

And you can't just ignore the opportunistic nature of the recent votes on RTE, cindy.

that's why I'm convinced on pray and dice now.

I can't ignore them, within a half hour of each other, dead silent all game, swooping in for that.

 

Well, I gave you the reason why I was absent If you don;t believe me, I can post a pic of me in bed with a thermometer in my mouth !

 

Anyway, if I wanted to consolidate there were already two trains running (unless you believe both berf and basel are mafia too). I choose RTE because he has felt the most scummy so far

 

 

Terrible post. Tries to act all light-hearted about him trying to prove he's sick, and then doesn't actually make any case or give any reasons for why he wanted to vote RTE, just that he "felt the most scummy so far".

 

 

unvote
Vote: Pralaya

Opportunistic vote on RTE and his defense of Basel reads like buddying to me.

Right. So, you think that I am scum. And, dice too because we intentionally distracted with the RTE train. And, Basel too because I am "buddying" with him. Congratulations, you already got three scum in day 1!

But. Seriously, looks like you started building cases on others around me already. What will happen if I flip town (which I will)?

 

 

Also don't like the sarcastic tone here. Seems like Pral is trying to force out the "too cool for school" attitude. And the last line seems like AtE to me, trying to scare town away from his lynch.

 

Also I forgot to quote it, but Pral dropped a little hint earlier, with the whole "great job losing the plot" line. In a game without character claims, this seems like obvious AtE to me.

 

BLAST THEM

 

 

Vote: Basel

Still don't like Berf but Hallia makes a good point about Basel not catching much heat.

Can I just say this could be the proudest moment of my life XD

 

 

 

This is precisely how I feel, yet my suspicions are beginning to shift... Berf is seeming much more town. But, I haven't ever played with him previously, so I can't really base this off any evidence other than how he's playing now... Basel on the other hand is seeming increasingly more mafia like to me...

 

 

Totally failing to see why I should be getting heat for putting my reads out there. That's what you do in mafia.

That's not what you're taking heat for. Read the game.

The reason you're getting heat is because your "reads" are a bunch of noncommittal WIFOM.

 

 

Really? Really?

 

 

If threatening people and demanding information is a crime, then lock me right the hell up

 

And I'm out for the night. Play nice peeps. RTE is misguided and possibly trying to distract. 

 

RTE - these single line write ups won't satisfy. To believe you, they must see as you do. By saying "It's how he's doing it" - that says nothing. That's open to interpretation. If you can back it up with an example, people might take your case more seriously. You know this, and this is why they, and more and more I, doubt you.

 

Let's not forget - if DAP is lying, there is very likely a Vig out there just waiting for nightfall. If it's a problem, there is a high chance it will resolve itself.

 

Need more from:

 

Dice, Praya, Locke, Halli ( ), Niel

 

Night folk

 

 

I agree with you here Berf. (Whoa like how???? Magics.)

 

Unvote. 

 

I will still keep my eyes on you, Berf. 

 

There was a post from Niel that I will see if I can find...

 

Quoted this one because the other was just really long. What's wrong with the post that I made?  :confused:

 

 

you both still voting berf?

any opinion on pray and dice?

 

 

Going to 

 

unvote 

 

 

vote Pral (or Pray) 

 

 

I want to hear more out of him, yes I understand RL issues, but I'm still curious.

 

Pretty bad post here. Nudges the Basel train early, only to bandwagon onto Pral at the end because he's "curious". Also seemingly soft-defends Basel at one point with the "Really? Really?" part, which is even more strange considering how he nudged Basel's train without joining it.

 

 

you both still voting berf?

any opinion on pray and dice?

I have a good town read on Pral. Dice I'm thinking town, tentatively. I believe his RL excuse of a migraine, but the end result is still him only having 3 posts in the game. I'm suspicious of RTE (perhaps 80/20), and I think Dice's vote on RTE is too early for a bus. Call Dice 70/30 town in my book.

Berf's scum-meter on my board is needling into the red.

 

 

 

 

what's the town read on pral based on? or dice?

Pral had a solid argument against RTE, I thought, and neither he nor Dice would be voting their teammate when he is that far from a lynch. So if RTE is scum, I think that makes Pral and Dice town.

 

 

This makes absolutely no sense to me. If mafia are going to bus or distance from a teammate, they're actually more likely to do so if their teammate IS far from a lynch. But the big issue here is that we don't yet know if RTE is mafia or not, yet Basel is putting out a town read on someone based on RTE being scum.

 

This smells really funny.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Still think the RTE lynch is the way to go.

 

Should be around all morning.

[hazelkrs1]

Alright so I'd be fine with either a Basel or a Pral lynch at this point, but Basel seems a lot closer to happening and deadline is coming up so

 

Unvote (just in case), Vote Basel

 

 

Scum list:

 

Basel- his response to pressure hasn't been that good, and he even brought up the whole "I don't want people to say I'm too defensive" thing which not only seems like slight AtE but also shows he is playing as if aware of how his actions would look. Pretty big tell right there. Plus he really stopped giving reads for a while while defending himself, and his reasoning for his recent reads makes no sense to me

 

Pray- I really don't like how he keeps saying someone "felt scummy" without saying why, just seems like he was trying to slip in with a bandwagon vote even tho he'd been pretty inactive all game, and lastly I REALLY don't like his character hint AtE and mock nonchalant attitude

 

RTE- Right after other people noticed the strangeness of the quick bandwagon votes on RTE, he then throws a quick bandwagon vote on Pray. I feel that one of the two is definite scum. Haven't felt right about RTE since the start of the game

 

CS- Really don't like the emo outburst he had earlier, and his confrontational attitude "I can't be bothered to look up info which might help for the game I'm in". Also seemed to contradict himself by acting concerned about the trap after he made such a big deal about his coding fail not counting before.

 

Dishonorable mention: Darthe, Niel, Berf, Turin

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Still think the RTE lynch is the way to go.

 

Should be around all morning.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Still think the RTE lynch is the way to go.

 

Should be around all morning.

[dapianoplay3r]

unvote vote rte

 

Even that up a tad

would switcj to basel

 

probably gunna shoot pral tonight jist looking at post count so no need tolynch him today