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In any case, reviewing, I see that I might be in the minority in thinking that Serra's idea was scummy. I agree with what Despo recently said still about Serra breadcrumbing the concept and "I wouldn't do this as scum" stuff. But whatever. I'll step off it for now.

 

I want to agree with Verbal's sentiment of doing something about the inactivity. While it is true that this 3-in-1 game hasn't been that inactive comparitively speaking, its still annoying because there are people who are skimming the bottom of the bucket.

 

Unvote: Vote Ree

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Just had to do way too much catching up in one game while hungover, and still have to catch up in another, so making this short and sweet. Sorry.

 

I actually think the case on Cloud IS stronger than Serra, and moreover gives us a better info lynch I think. I voted Serra mainly cause I found him scummy as well, and saw others voting him. Now that I see more momentum on Cloud's lynch however, I feel Unvoting, Voting Cloud is the way to go.

 

Lemme see if there was anything specific I needed to respond to in the last couple of pages

 

Krak's case on me, as I have already pointed out, doesn't make any kind of sense. Why would I change my mind and push so hard for Peace if I knew that he would flip town? I could have instead just decided to go with my initial reads on him and get some town cred after he flipped town or at least have avoided the spotlight. Yes, I have made a couple of mistakes in my logic regarding how to handle the whole cop thing, but I at least brought my thoughts regarding Chuckles out in the open which I can't say for everyone else.

 

What kind of info will my lynch give you? After I flip town you will just be as lost about Chuckles as you are now, and I can't think of any other "info" my death will give you. Furthermore it looks like you are trying to link me with a couple of other players to add more justification for your vote on me and that is scummy imo.

 

Oh also forgot to mention- if Cloud flips scum, I think that and all the other evidence against Chuckles is significant enough for serious pressure, and if he doesn't have a guilty viewing for us to check the next day we just get his "viewings" out and lynch him.

 

So now you are basically repeating what I first said about how we could handle the Chuckles situation?

 

 

Unvote, Vote Ree. It appears to me that he has stopped playing in this game.

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Meh Unvote, Vote Ree.

 

I think Cloud and Serra's trains going nowhere because they're prob both scum. Town is playing awful in all of these threads tho, so blech whatever.

Posted

Hey all, Ree had an issue come up a couple of days back and I have been looking for a replacement for him since. I will attempt to find one until morning and if nothing changes by then he will be modkilled.

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Meh Unvote, Vote Ree.

 

I think Cloud and Serra's trains going nowhere because they're prob both scum. Town is playing awful in all of these threads tho, so blech whatever.

 

That's a horrible argument. That's only really valid for particularly small games... and even then bussing is so common it basically makes up for that. You're really throwing anything at me in the hope something will stick, huh?

 

If Ree is modkilled, does that end the day? Otherwise we need to find an alternative (preferably not me if you guys want to lynch scum...)

 

Tina listing 6 or 7 people she could potentially go after is pretty scummy.

 

The reason I believe chuckles here is because I don't really find him scummy. The BPV claiming makes sense even without confirming the cop...

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Thread Three Day and Night Start Links/ Final Vote Counts:

 

Csarmi Lynch Day 1

 

 

 

FINAL VOTE COUNT:

Salami (12/12): Nol, Yates, Verb, Leelou, Razen, Cloud, Peace, Dap, Des, Serra, Tina, Lenlo

Hally (1/12): Krak

Yates (1/12): Crush

Leelou (1/12): Ree

Chuckles (2/12): Tiink, Salami

 

Not Voting (7/23): Chuckles, Mish, Hally, Ishy, Tina, Laya, BG

 

 

So these are those on the Csarmi lynch. Should be about 2 mafias

 

Nol

Verb

Raz

Cloud

Dap

Des

Serra

Tina

Lenlo

 

Peace Lynch Day 2

 

 

 

Day 2 Final Vote Count

[/Color=blue]Peace[/color] (10/10): Hally, Len, BG, Dap, Tina, Cloud, Serra, Tiink, Des, Pralaya

Ishy (1/10):Verb

Chuckles (2/10): Razen, Nol

Serra (1/10): Peace

 

Not Voting (5/19):

Chuckles, Krak, Ree, Ishy, Yates

 

 

And these were those from there who went for peace

Len

Dap

Tina

Cloud

Serra

Des

 

Removing myself cos I'm town that leaves 5 people who look suspicious

Ill go through now and find if Yates jumped at any of them

 

The stuff below was from using the wrong VC so it's probably not right but it might still be relevant so ill post it anyway

 


Vote: Verbal

This is a REAL vote until such time as he gives us vote tags or I find scum. Whichever comes first...

Well he does signal to verb. Similarly to T1 incidentally

But he doesn't full on hint like he did there by referencing getting mod killd but it's worth noting

 

I suggest it be dropped by tomorrow unless there's a good reason for it or we're going to all get way too twisted.

Translation: "I am also scum in one of these threads and don't want to forget which one!"

Thanks for making tomorrow's choice easy, brother!

Here marks a whole lot of buddying from Yates masked as wanting Nol dead

Note all the use of buddy, brother, bro and the like

 

 

 

Vote Nolder

Why aren't you voting for Csarmi? :(

Let the man live in at least one game.
???

FoS: BG

But first this. Less likely to he BG over Nol IMO

 

That completely defeats the purpose of lynching him at all really.

Are you and him scum together in this game?

Hmm not the bro I thought I had quoted

 

Ok I'll put it this way. We stagger the lynch, heck doesn't matter which thread to me, so I arbitrarily chose this one.

Doesn't address the fact that that ruins the strategy of lynching him at all in any thread.

Handsome.

Charming.

An excellent mod.

Can eat a bag of dic#s hotdogs.

Reads my mind.

Welcome to Town Pile, Nolder, population 2!

Ok here's more

 

Me and my buddy Yates here gonna wreck some scum today.

Brofist - engaged.
Bro fist

Seems like a good bet of verb and Nol ATM

 

Ooops

Can we edit? To Yate's quote I just meant to link to the In case anyone wasn't aware of it.

Hang on - I'm not done editing the wiki to my advantage.
See here he refers to that game again, just like he did t1

Ill just go check T2 to see if its a consistent meta

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I'm going with Cloud today.  He was early onto the Csarmi lynch with no reasoning really.  Looked opportunistic.   More recently he tried to start a lynch onto Chuckles, who has revealed himself as cop.  And lastly, what caught my eye was the way he tried to defend Peace at first when he was getting run up after the fake viewing on Serra.  It seems to me he was hoping to get some town credit by looking good and not voting for Peace when he seemed to be a sure lynch.  Then it stalled out, and sure enough he hopped onto the train after all as the deadline got closer.  

 

Vote Cloud

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Ree will be mk´d or replaced so I don´t think we should waste a lynch on him. What if he has a power role?

 

 

Meh Unvote, Vote Ree.

I think Cloud and Serra's trains going nowhere because they're prob both scum. Town is playing awful in all of these threads tho, so blech whatever.

 

That's a horrible argument. That's only really valid for particularly small games... and even then bussing is so common it basically makes up for that. You're really throwing anything at me in the hope something will stick, huh?

 

If Ree is modkilled, does that end the day? Otherwise we need to find an alternative (preferably not me if you guys want to lynch scum...)

 

Tina listing 6 or 7 people she could potentially go after is pretty scummy.

 

The reason I believe chuckles here is because I don't really find him scummy. The BPV claiming makes sense even without confirming the cop...

 

 

I pointed out what has stuck out so far. How is that scummy? Tell me what you think about those comments. 

 

 

Chuckles claim at L-8 doesn't make any kind of sense to me and it could have just been a plan to get the Cop out there, and if there is no Cop he would be safe. I personally think the safest way around this situation is to give Chuckles more time to catch another scum, and if he doesn't after a few Days we can conclude that he won't be much of a help (no offense) and just lynch him and tell him to give out the rest of his readings?

I believe him because I'm inclined to think that the setups are the same except for the SK in one thread hence multiple kills and explains the OP, Cult Leader in another. 

 

 

I forgot to comment about this yesterday. Cult leader? Where do you get this from? I saw someone mention cult earlier in another game. Was it Des? 

Posted

It depends if day ends when a player is MK'd and a replacement joining the game now when we have no reads on the player he's replacing makes him a null till we get things going

 

When's the deadline?

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Ree will be mk´d or replaced so I don´t think we should waste a lynch on him. What if he has a power role?

 

 

Meh Unvote, Vote Ree.

 

I think Cloud and Serra's trains going nowhere because they're prob both scum. Town is playing awful in all of these threads tho, so blech whatever.

 

That's a horrible argument. That's only really valid for particularly small games... and even then bussing is so common it basically makes up for that. You're really throwing anything at me in the hope something will stick, huh?

 

If Ree is modkilled, does that end the day? Otherwise we need to find an alternative (preferably not me if you guys want to lynch scum...)

 

Tina listing 6 or 7 people she could potentially go after is pretty scummy.

 

The reason I believe chuckles here is because I don't really find him scummy. The BPV claiming makes sense even without confirming the cop...

 

 

I pointed out what has stuck out so far. How is that scummy? Tell me what you think about those comments. 

 

 

Chuckles claim at L-8 doesn't make any kind of sense to me and it could have just been a plan to get the Cop out there, and if there is no Cop he would be safe. I personally think the safest way around this situation is to give Chuckles more time to catch another scum, and if he doesn't after a few Days we can conclude that he won't be much of a help (no offense) and just lynch him and tell him to give out the rest of his readings?

I believe him because I'm inclined to think that the setups are the same except for the SK in one thread hence multiple kills and explains the OP, Cult Leader in another. 

 

 

I forgot to comment about this yesterday. Cult leader? Where do you get this from? I saw someone mention cult earlier in another game. Was it Des? 

 

I had it in my head that Verb was CL in one thread because he joked about it before he got lynched. My bad. I still think setups are similar.

Posted

Official Vote Count:


Cloud (5/9): Nol, Krak, Razen, Tina, Hally


Serra (1/9): Ishy


Des (1/9): Serra


BG (1/9): Len


Ishy (1/9): Rorschache


Ree (5/9): Verb, BG, Chuckles, Cloud, Des


 


 


Not Voting (3/17):


Dap, Tink, Ree


 


8 Hours


 


With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

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It depends if day ends when a player is MK'd and a replacement joining the game now when we have no reads on the player he's replacing makes him a null till we get things going

 

When's the deadline?

 

Day won't be ending for that.  I assure you all that he is almost certainly dead because I think it would be unfair to force players to waste time and effort on something the moderators should be handling and we are.  

Posted

It depends if day ends when a player is MK'd and a replacement joining the game now when we have no reads on the player he's replacing makes him a null till we get things going

 

When's the deadline?

 

What if he has a power role? 

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It depends if day ends when a player is MK'd and a replacement joining the game now when we have no reads on the player he's replacing makes him a null till we get things going

 

When's the deadline?

 

Day won't be ending for that.  I assure you all that he is almost certainly dead because I think it would be unfair to force players to waste time and effort on something the moderators should be handling and we are.  

 

 

Okay, Darthe beat me to it. 

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I'm going with Cloud today.  He was early onto the Csarmi lynch with no reasoning really.  Looked opportunistic.

 

And so were Nol, Verb, Raz, Dap, Des, Serra, Tina and Lenlo but I don't see you FoSing them for it. We all had reasons to believe that he was mafia in at least on thread after he build bridges between the three games, and that's why he was lynched. If you are looking for opportunistic votes then you should look at these last few votes on me.

 

More recently he tried to start a lynch onto Chuckles, who has revealed himself as cop.

Like I already mentioned, most of the time I think that Chuckles' plays scummy, and even more so in this thread. After he claimed Cop I didn't want to lynch him anymore. I think this argument is weak, because how could I know that he would claim to be the Cop before I pushed for his lynch? This also shows that you believe Chuckles to be the Cop, and the others should note this down.

 

And lastly, what caught my eye was the way he tried to defend Peace at first when he was getting run up after the fake viewing on Serra.  It seems to me he was hoping to get some town credit by looking good and not voting for Peace when he seemed to be a sure lynch.  Then it stalled out, and sure enough he hopped onto the train after all as the deadline got closer.

 

Vote Cloud

I have already explained this to Krak and later to Despo. Why would I change my mind and push so hard for Peace if I knew that he would flip town? Like you said, I could have just went with my initial reads on him and get some town cred after he flipped town, but I changed my mind and voted for him! That defeats the whole purpose of trying to get town cred! It puts me in the spotlight for no reason.

Posted

We only have a little more over 7 hours left on the clock, and now that Darthe mentioned that Ree will get modkilled if he isn't able to find a replacement for him I'm willing to get lynched instead of him. After I flip you should all take a close look at the last couple of bandwagon votes on me from people who didn't even bother to read my defense on the topic before voting for me.

 

 

Unvote, Vote Cloud

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Posted

Idea:  let's lynch Ree.  He is about to be modkilled, and Darthe has confirmed Day won't end.  If Ree is town, we'll potentially lose TWO townies today.  No good.  Let us lynch Ree and end the Day with no additional deaths.

 

Then allow our Cop to hunt for scum tonight.

 

Thoughts?

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@tina: if ree has a PR (which I doubt) we lose it and move on, its part of the game

 

And I'm with you verb, MK+lynch+mafia NK = most likely 3 dead townies once we start D4

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