BASE MAFIA - Mafia Wins!

[Andrej]

I honestly hadn't made that connection, funny though.

 

Hopefully the activity will pick up some tonight when I get to work, or else it'll be a boring night.

 

Just a warning as well, my work computer sucks and I can't format things properly. Quoting is a nightmare

[dapianoplay3r]

Don't worry too much. Quoting has been a bit buggy recently

 

Tiink I believe now is basically last words time

[Andrej]

He's L-2 I believe.

 

He already gave his last words-ish earlier with his post accusing Mish again for being scum. Are you skimming now Dap?

You still haven't voted either, although saying several times now that he was the person you would vote.

 

Waiting for RTE to come back with his thoughts.

[Andrej]

Likely about to doze off so just incase I wake up dead - AJ is town. Mish is scum. Turin goes either way but it's either him or Mish and I'm putting my money on Mish atm. Those are my readings.

 

Said quote.

[dapianoplay3r]

That was a while ago and more votes have appeared since then

He may want to say more

[wheeloftime13]

I can't go through and multi quote right now because I'm mobile.... but I will post more of my thoughts when I get back from Panera Bread...

[Andrej]

Just give us the basics then, Time. You can always go back later and quote what you needed.

[Turin Turambar]

Quotes are generally overrated.

 

Thoughts are more important.

 

Actually setup can be discussed with this. The dynamics change without all the investigative roles. BTW I generally only discuss setup facts on day one.. speculation is what gives mafia a chance to mislead town.

 

Question AJ, which games did you read thru? And did you read the QT also?

[Andrej]

Quotes are generally overrated.

 

Thoughts are more important.

 

Actually setup can be discussed with this. The dynamics change without all the investigative roles. BTW I generally only discuss setup facts on day one.. speculation is what gives mafia a chance to mislead town.

 

Question AJ, which games did you read thru? And did you read the QT also?

I've read several, but not always the QT. Some didn't have one available to read.

 

I really enjoyed reading Darthe's Pick Your Poison game. Also, Lily/Kat's Occult Shop.

I don't remember the theme, but I read one where mentors were allowed like this one. You turned out to be scum in that one, actually. Very cunning ending.

[Tyler Glembo]

@Mish - I wasn't saying it was a bad thing you've been away, just noting it. I've been away too.

 

Also, I get the irony about my posting about lynching LZM. I stand by it anyway, especially if he doesn't add anything more soon.

 

@AJ - the fact that you are rushing to lynch Tiink is a scum tell. It indicates that you are mafia and over eager to lynch a townie. Typically town is not so eager to lynch since we can never know for sure.

 

Also, I was in the earlier mentor game when Turin was mafia that you are referring to. I completely trusted him that game.

[dapianoplay3r]

@Mish - I wasn't saying it was a bad thing you've been away, just noting it. I've been away too.

Also, I get the irony about my posting about lynching LZM. I stand by it anyway, especially if he doesn't add anything more soon.

@AJ - the fact that you are rushing to lynch Tiink is a scum tell. It indicates that you are mafia and over eager to lynch a townie. Typically town is not so eager to lynch since we can never know for sure.

Also, I was in the earlier mentor game when Turin was mafia that you are referring to. I completely trusted him that game.

LZM is notoriously inactive, has he been seen else where on DM recently?

 

As for the AJ thing, while I agree that it's a tell, you said "over eager to lynch a townie"

Does that mean you know Tiink is town?

[Andrej]

@Mish - I wasn't saying it was a bad thing you've been away, just noting it. I've been away too.

 

Also, I get the irony about my posting about lynching LZM. I stand by it anyway, especially if he doesn't add anything more soon.

 

@AJ - the fact that you are rushing to lynch Tiink is a scum tell. It indicates that you are mafia and over eager to lynch a townie. Typically town is not so eager to lynch since we can never know for sure.

 

Also, I was in the earlier mentor game when Turin was mafia that you are referring to. I completely trusted him that game.

I agree with you that it could be seen as a tell. Frankly, the job of the town is to seek out mafia and then lynch them. Correct? His play has been scummy and I have stood by my case with him the entire time. You, to a degree, have agreed because you have voted him yourself. Also, see Dap's comment about knowing his alignment.

 

I also trusted him that game, he seemed very helpful to the new players. His question about the potential roles that the mafia would give the town was a good point and I think it did the trick in keeping LZM quiet about his town jailkeeper role. Very good play considering later it was revealed that the scum team hadn't submitted the roles they wanted to give in time. Anyway, enough about THAT game.

 

Let's play this one.

[Tyler Glembo]

LZM is notoriously inactive, has he been seen else where on DM recently?

As for the AJ thing, while I agree that it's a tell, you said "over eager to lynch a townie"

Does that mean you know Tiink is town?

No, I was just discussing the hypothetical situation when a mafia member is over eager to get a lynch accomplished.

[Hallia]

@Mish - I wasn't saying it was a bad thing you've been away, just noting it. I've been away too.

 

Also, I get the irony about my posting about lynching LZM. I stand by it anyway, especially if he doesn't add anything more soon.

 

@AJ - the fact that you are rushing to lynch Tiink is a scum tell. It indicates that you are mafia and over eager to lynch a townie. Typically town is not so eager to lynch since we can never know for sure.

 

Also, I was in the earlier mentor game when Turin was mafia that you are referring to. I completely trusted him that game.

 

For the @AJ part, I think he doesn't mean him specifically, but in general a rushed lynch is a sign of mafia

[Hallia]

Well jinx. XD

[dapianoplay3r]

Hide behind your big words

[Tyler Glembo]

Obstreperous

[Tyler Glembo]

Lol

[dapianoplay3r]

It's just funny that as soon as you got looked at you started using double the sized words

[RandA lThor]

Btw, I will try to catch up on this, but I have a whole history outline to do, so I can't do it right now, sorry!

[dapianoplay3r]

Good luck Rand. Shout if you need help

[peacesells]

It's just funny that as soon as you got looked at you started using double the sized words

And two posts to quip about it.

[LedZepMan]

I like how you were one of the other inactives and tried rolling me under the bus. Very hypocritical

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Ok, first, sorry for the delay as I had some stuff I had to take care of that came up
tonight. Mea culpa, thank you for your patience.

Now, time for a tiny rant. I will be the first to admit that I often am not active
enough. I’m still learning to scum hunt, I hate walls of quotes, and I have my
opinions about day 1. But let me say this: in my opinion all this activity on
day 1 does as much harm as it does good. Why, you say? How so, you say? Well, this
sets a precedent. Here we have almost 20 pages of “content” on day 1. Some of
you will quickly say, “Hey! That’s great! The more activity the better! And we
have inactive members to boot!”.  I, on
the other hand, would dissuade this sort of activity. Why? Firstly everyone is
getting flack after a weekend phase. Now, some people, and some weekends, are
better for some than others and you can almost always expect a lull in activity
over a weekend. If you want to pick your fights and criticisms over inactivity,
Sunday night isn’t the best time to do it. PLEASE also consider time zones. I
just moved to the UK from Canada, so having been on both sides of the Atlantic
I can understand having to read all these posts in the morning and why it may
be frustrating for the NA people to have to wait to hear from someone for as
long as 6+ hours. Now, why is all that activity on Day 1 not so great? It sets
an unrealistic precedent for one thing. Day 1, with its share of fluff, old
friends reacquainting, and joke votes, will always see a high post count. It’s
normal, it’s fun. But what isn’t fun, and IMO logical, is that so much casing will
go on in day 1. Firstly, in an advanced game, many if not all of the roles have
not come into effect before night 1. This means that we have even much less
info than we can expect to get for the rest of the game on Day 1. This means no
matter how pretty your posts or how many quotes you make, what you have to go
on in Day 1 will always be very, very limited. Hell, you can’t say much about anyone’s
meta on day 1 anyways, who has a legit day 1 meta?!  What I’m saying is of course you have posts
to go on and you look for the slip ups or telling use of language, but at some
point you have to come to terms with the idea that speculation is speculation.
Yes, everyone will want to avoid a random lynch. But to think that that person
you do lynch on day 1 is any better than random is seldom the case. Also, with
so many posts, it probably discourages a lot of players, be it new or old, right
at the onset of the game. You’ve just started a new mafia game, you miss a day
of following it, and boom, you have 12 pages to catch up on. Guess what? I don’t
think spamming is very pro town. Neither do most people, hence fluff posting
getting brought up when casing people. But I think at the same time being
overzealous on day 1 is all a bit of fluff as well. What I’m getting at is work
as hard as you may, that day 1 lynch is going to be more random than any other
vote in the entire game, lest a vote go random due to no lynch by deadline.
Even “worse” are the limited roles in this game, meaning every death, be it
lynch or NK, will only leave us with so much info anyways. And in this case,
that will mean very little information indeed. What I’m trying to say is
activity is great. Most of the time it is essential. But there’s a line, and
sometimes it is as helpful as it is distracting, if not moreso of the latter.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Awkward Word formatting. Ah well, at least I didn't lose my post...