[ADVANCED] Forsaken in the White Tower: Town wins!

[Sakaea]

Ishy was just joking with me, he's my Bonded. It's normal. He isn't bonded to Tress (that I know of!) but it's the same basic thing.

 

So anyways, just my personal reads here, pretty sure Peace is town. I don't think he would have volunteered to be a D1 lynch so vehemently if he was scum. Moon, I'm unsure of right now, but I'm gonna go for RTE. I think his reactions yesterday were strange and definitely not pro-town. Also, minor FOS at Player for saying Pandy is town. If you're gonna claim, claim, don't do this softclaim hinting crap. 

[peacesells]

I think that TG puts out some good points.  During my reread I caught up on that Ishy is posting a lot of fluff.

 

vote Ishy

I'd be scared if Ishy had more content than fluff.   You don't know Ish.

[Tyler Glembo]

Ishy was just joking with me, he's my Bonded. It's normal. He isn't bonded to Tress (that I know of!) but it's the same basic thing.

 

So anyways, just my personal reads here, pretty sure Peace is town. I don't think he would have volunteered to be a D1 lynch so vehemently if he was scum. Moon, I'm unsure of right now, but I'm gonna go for RTE. I think his reactions yesterday were strange and definitely not pro-town. Also, minor FOS at Player for saying Pandy is town. If you're gonna claim, claim, don't do this softclaim hinting crap. 

 

I know he is your bonded and always makes a joke or two, but it is typically at the beginning of the game, and his jokes this time are a bit off.

 

 

I think that TG puts out some good points.  During my reread I caught up on that Ishy is posting a lot of fluff.

 

vote Ishy

I'd be scared if Ishy had more content than fluff.   You don't know Ish.

 

Ishy always jokes around and posts fluff, but not to this extent.  Normally he has at least some sort of gameplay posts, unlike in this game where he only has buddying up posts and fluff.

[peacesells]

Tglems..wait til drunk mafia.  I haven't played enough with Ishy to make the statements on his meta you are making.

 

But, it doesn't matter anyway.  He fluff posts as scum and town.  It really isn't a tell.

[Kaylee]

Ishy was just joking with me, he's my Bonded. It's normal. He isn't bonded to Tress (that I know of!) but it's the same basic thing.

 

So anyways, just my personal reads here, pretty sure Peace is town. I don't think he would have volunteered to be a D1 lynch so vehemently if he was scum. Moon, I'm unsure of right now, but I'm gonna go for RTE. I think his reactions yesterday were strange and definitely not pro-town. Also, minor FOS at Player for saying Pandy is town. If you're gonna claim, claim, don't do this softclaim hinting crap.

Tress and Ishy are bonded as well. Even still, I've seen him win as mafia by posting mostly fluff type posts. Not sure if he's scum in this game, but I'm definitely keeping an eye on him.

[Talya]

Don't really care who is bonded to who, you leave that at the door when you play mafia. At the very least Ishy's "fluff" is not helping, 45 is a lot of post and nothing said. However I don't know him to know if this is how he plays.

 

It would be good to hear from others, some have posted on day 2 withou much content.

 

Kae, there was little chance of Peace being lynched and he knew it, I've seen mafia use it, it makes them look town willing to sacrifice, heck I've done it.

[Talya]

What happened to my paragraphs?

[WolfbrotherKronos]

Pretty much any meta arguments are going to go over my head as I haven't played enough with most people to know. And as tayla said, 45 is a lot for no content

[dapianoplay3r]

Ishy was just joking with me, he's my Bonded. It's normal. He isn't bonded to Tress (that I know of!) but it's the same basic thing.

 

So anyways, just my personal reads here, pretty sure Peace is town. I don't think he would have volunteered to be a D1 lynch so vehemently if he was scum. Moon, I'm unsure of right now, but I'm gonna go for RTE. I think his reactions yesterday were strange and definitely not pro-town. Also, minor FOS at Player for saying Pandy is town. If you're gonna claim, claim, don't do this softclaim hinting crap. 

I've seen mafia offer themselves for lynch before, it's an easy gamble most of the time that gives them some town brownie points. Very rarely will people lynch someone offering themselves, but everyone seems to think that no mafia would ever risk it, but they would. I would in their shoes

 

Addressing my panda thing cos I think if I quote this and don't people will freak out. It's just my feeling at this point

Deal with it

 

Don't really care who is bonded to who, you leave that at the door when you play mafia. At the very least Ishy's "fluff" is not helping, 45 is a lot of post and nothing said. However I don't know him to know if this is how he plays.

 

It would be good to hear from others, some have posted on day 2 withou much content.

 

Kae, there was little chance of Peace being lynched and he knew it, I've seen mafia use it, it makes them look town willing to sacrifice, heck I've done it.

See

[peacesells]

Don't really care who is bonded to who, you leave that at the door when you play mafia. At the very least Ishy's "fluff" is not helping, 45 is a lot of post and nothing said. However I don't know him to know if this is how he plays. It would be good to hear from others, some have posted on day 2 withou much content. Kae, there was little chance of Peace being lynched and he knew it, I've seen mafia use it, it makes them look town willing to sacrifice, heck I've done it.

There was plenty of time to lynch me.  And "several" players had said they found me scummy.  No reason to think they wouldn't follow through.  Strange that they didn't though.

[Darthe]

Tglems..wait til drunk mafia.  I haven't played enough with Ishy to make the statements on his meta you are making.

 

But, it doesn't matter anyway.  He fluff posts as scum and town.  It really isn't a tell.

 

You are really protecting his ass.  I happen to know Ishy very well in this regard and can say with certainty that as mafia he posts fluff, mingles a bit, and is generally charming enough to convince the masses.

 

As town he is the same, but he adds content  

 

 

backhanded compliments ftw.

[John E. Kelley]

Ask Panda, Cloud and Darthe how unhelpful my "fluff" posts are. How helpful they were in Darthe's last game. I nailed three of the four scum. By Day Two. With my "fluff" as you're calling it. You want big cases with multiple quotes? I don't do that, never have as most of you already know. And still do fairly well. Don't like it? GFY. Lynch me if you don't like how I play.

[peacesells]

 

Tglems..wait til drunk mafia.  I haven't played enough with Ishy to make the statements on his meta you are making.

 

But, it doesn't matter anyway.  He fluff posts as scum and town.  It really isn't a tell.

 

You are really protecting his ass. 

And what do you make of this?  (Not that I agree with you)

[Darthe]

Ask Panda, Cloud and Darthe how unhelpful my "fluff" posts are. How helpful they were in Darthe's last game. I nailed three of the four scum. By Day Two. With my "fluff" as you're calling it. You want big cases with multiple quotes? I don't do that, never have as most of you already know. And still do fairly well. Don't like it? GFY. Lynch me if you don't like how I play.

 

Haha you do well.  I do not care for multiquoted cases from you buddy, just activity on par with what most of us have come to expect.

 

Peace, I take it to mean a couple of things, one of which I hope isn't true.

[Niniel]

It feels like I´m floating alone in this game. You are mostly discussing people that I believe are town. And I don´t feel that I can make any good cases on those I think are scum either. lol 

 

TGlems - I didn´t notice that you left Ishy and Tiinker of that list as well. I saw that you commented on Time and Kaylee though even if you didn´t have a read on them. 

[Talya]

Peace, There was no one around who was willing to get anyone lynched at the time you said to vote for you. People are reluctant to vote for those who put themselves forward, because they think they are probably town and don't want to be seen to be voting town (I have done it as town as well, near the end of the game, to prove who the mafia was, and done as mafia)

[Tyler Glembo]

Tglems..wait til drunk mafia.  I haven't played enough with Ishy to make the statements on his meta you are making.

 

But, it doesn't matter anyway.  He fluff posts as scum and town.  It really isn't a tell.

 

Yes, he fluff posts as scum and town.  But normally as town he fluff posts + content posts at least a little bit.  

 

Don't really care who is bonded to who, you leave that at the door when you play mafia. At the very least Ishy's "fluff" is not helping, 45 is a lot of post and nothing said. However I don't know him to know if this is how he plays. It would be good to hear from others, some have posted on day 2 withou much content. Kae, there was little chance of Peace being lynched and he knew it, I've seen mafia use it, it makes them look town willing to sacrifice, heck I've done it.

 

Bolded for reference for what Ishy is about to subtly do...

 

 

Ishy was just joking with me, he's my Bonded. It's normal. He isn't bonded to Tress (that I know of!) but it's the same basic thing.

 

So anyways, just my personal reads here, pretty sure Peace is town. I don't think he would have volunteered to be a D1 lynch so vehemently if he was scum. Moon, I'm unsure of right now, but I'm gonna go for RTE. I think his reactions yesterday were strange and definitely not pro-town. Also, minor FOS at Player for saying Pandy is town. If you're gonna claim, claim, don't do this softclaim hinting crap. 

I've seen mafia offer themselves for lynch before, it's an easy gamble most of the time that gives them some town brownie points. Very rarely will people lynch someone offering themselves, but everyone seems to think that no mafia would ever risk it, but they would. I would in their shoes

 

Addressing my panda thing cos I think if I quote this and don't people will freak out. It's just my feeling at this point

Deal with it

 

>Don't really care who is bonded to who, you leave that at the door when you play mafia. At the very least Ishy's "fluff" is not helping, 45 is a lot of post and nothing said. However I don't know him to know if this is how he plays.

 

It would be good to hear from others, some have posted on day 2 withou much content.

 

Kae, there was little chance of Peace being lynched and he knew it, I've seen mafia use it, it makes them look town willing to sacrifice, heck I've done it.

See

 

 

Again, bolded for what Ishy is about to do

 

 

Tglems..wait til drunk mafia.  I haven't played enough with Ishy to make the statements on his meta you are making.

 

But, it doesn't matter anyway.  He fluff posts as scum and town.  It really isn't a tell.

 

You are really protecting his ass.  I happen to know Ishy very well in this regard and can say with certainty that as mafia he posts fluff, mingles a bit, and is generally charming enough to convince the masses.

 

As town he is the same, but he adds content

 

 

backhanded compliments ftw.

 

Agreed.

 

Ask Panda, Cloud and Darthe how unhelpful my "fluff" posts are. How helpful they were in Darthe's last game. I nailed three of the four scum. By Day Two. With my "fluff" as you're calling it. You want big cases with multiple quotes? I don't do that, never have as most of you already know. And still do fairly well. Don't like it? GFY. Lynch me if you don't like how I play.

 

Bolded part, Ishy, after multiple posts of how this will gain town cred, uses the go ahead and lynch me ploy in a very defensive post. 

 

Second, I (or anybody else) never asked for big cases or walls of reads, I simply mentioned that I've seen you play as town and scum and there is a clear difference, that being that as town you normally also post some content posts which you haven't done.  Others have noticed this also.

[Tyler Glembo]

It feels like I´m floating alone in this game. You are mostly discussing people that I believe are town. And I don´t feel that I can make any good cases on those I think are scum either. lol 

 

TGlems - I didn´t notice that you left Ishy and Tiinker of that list as well. I saw that you commented on Time and Kaylee though even if you didn´t have a read on them. 

 

Right, I had a null tell on them but they had, at that point, posted enough content where I had some notes on them, whereas I had no notes at the time on Ishy, Tiink, or Dap since none had posted any content.  Time with her late joke vote and Kay with her concise posting style.  

[peacesells]

Tglems, you are fabricating a case.  Ish has posted content.  Why are you purposefully stating otherwise.

 

Plus his Lynch me and see is completely a different avenue than the one I took.  His is an EMOTIONAL RESPONSE.  (Which looks scummy imo)  Mine was a logical move to get good info on a lynch...which is what Talya is not understanding.

[dapianoplay3r]

Reason actives get lynched on DM

 

They enevitably come across as scummy cos they post

[wheeloftime13]

Okay... first off, what is a mail carrier?? at the moment, the people that I think are town are

 

1. Darthe- he's claimed Nynaeve, and in my opinion, that'd be a pretty hard claim to fake...

2. Cloud- claimed Thom, town doublevoter... even though I'm wondering how Thom could be a doublevoter, Cloud has been actively looking for mafia, but ill admit that it's odd that everyone followed him after he voted no lynch...

3. Player- mostly gut feeling, but he's not really had any scummy posts

 

 

the people that I'm unsure of are...

 

1. Kaylee- seems to be thinking things over and analyzing everything, leaning town

2. Tiink- unsure

3. TG- I'm leaning town, but I'm unsure 

4. Kae- she seems  hard to convince at some things, but I'm leaning town

5. Rand- mostly buying his Elayne claim, but not completely sure about being vanilla... and in one of his posts, i could barely understand what he was trying to say

6. Tina- leaning towards town

7. Pandy- I'm unsure what to think

8. Talya- leaning towards town... mainly a gut feeling, though

9. Lenlo- not completely buying his Birgitte claim, and to me he was acting scummy on Day1, so for me he could go either way...

10. Kronos- came in for Mish, hasn't really had any scummy looking posts to me, but he did say that there might be a SK in here, so I'm unsure what to make of his suggestion, but I'm leaning town

 

people who I think are mafia or am leaning towards thinking mafia are

 

1. Peace- seems jumpy to me... I've never really played with him before, so I wouldn't know if it's how he normally plays... for now though, I think he's being too jumpy voting one person, then a few hours or thereabouts later, he votes someone else... also, his back and forth thing with RTE looks to me like a) he's trying to make him look like mafia, or b) they're trying to distance themselves

2. Moon- never played with her before either, but at the beginning of the game, she possibly looked a little too closely at Len and Darthe's banter in my opinion... 

3. Ishy- his asking if Kae and Tress are dead yet, and then Tress ending up dead is bugging me... 

4. RTE- his back and forth with Peace looks like he's trying to distance himself from him, but Peace could be trying to make him look like mafia...

 

I think that what Ishy has said is bugging me the most as of right now, so...

 

vote Ishy

[Darthe]

^ I second this.  It is actually interesting, the site meta affords too few externalized kills and thus people would lose by the time they killed all of the inactives.  

[Tyler Glembo]

Tglems, you are fabricating a case.  Ish has posted content.  Why are you purposefully stating otherwise.

 

Plus his Lynch me and see is completely a different avenue than the one I took.  His is an EMOTIONAL RESPONSE.  (Which looks scummy imo)  Mine was a logical move to get good info on a lynch...which is what Talya is not understanding.

 

Glad we can both agree he is looking like scum.  

 

As for him posting content, I looked through all his posts (as I'm sure you have too).  He has posted about mechanics of the game, setup, etc, but not actual game play posts.  He has defended others and buddied up, but has not posted about scum, who is likely scum, or anything of the sort except for the soft vote and quick retraction on Darthe.  

[peacesells]

lol..RTE I'm you #1 suspect yet you vote Ishy?

[peacesells]

 

Tglems, you are fabricating a case.  Ish has posted content.  Why are you purposefully stating otherwise.

 

Plus his Lynch me and see is completely a different avenue than the one I took.  His is an EMOTIONAL RESPONSE.  (Which looks scummy imo)  Mine was a logical move to get good info on a lynch...which is what Talya is not understanding.

 

Glad we can both agree he is looking like scum.  

 

As for him posting content, I looked through all his posts (as I'm sure you have too).  He has posted about mechanics of the game, setup, etc, but not actual game play posts.  He has defended others and buddied up, but has not posted about scum, who is likely scum, or anything of the sort except for the soft vote and quick retraction on Darthe.  

Completely untrue.  He went after Darthe strong til Darthe's reveal.  All those things you call fluff were game content.  There was a lot of discussion on game set up, he took part in it.  Defending others is game play.  You get a ton of info from it.  Why do you think some think I am scummy atm? 

 

Fluff is lol posts, posts about nothing to do with the game.  A majority of his posts are game related.  You are purposefully discounting his contribution to the game. 

 

AGAIN, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?