[BASIC] A Wrinkle in Time Mafia - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS.

[Songstress]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Despo (1) - Tina

Tina (3) - Darthe, TG, Kronos

BG (2) - Peace, Despo

Kronos (2) - Basel, Kae

Peace (1) - BG

Kae (1) - Rand

 

 

Not voting: Turin, Kaylee

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

 

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Turin is replacing Ishy.

 

A deadline has been set. Day 1 will end Thursday, November 15th at 8PM MST.

 

http://www.timeandda...AY ONE DEADLINE

[Kaylee]

I agree about BG, that seems odd to me. I could go with voting him or Kae. Her for the bandwagoning vote.

[Turin Turambar]

Hi. Will try to get caught up quickly and give my thoughts. FYI, I have NO knowledge of source material.

Will likely be sometime tomorrow.

[Kaylee]

No problem Turin, there are others playing who also don't know the material. The only "claim" was explained who it was.

[Niniel]

Waiting for these quotes.

 

Welcome, Turin.

 

Unvote. Vote Kae.

 

I think WBK´s explanation makes sense, even though I don´t like his vote. Kae´s vote for WBK came after the explanation. So did Basel´s too, if I remember it right. I want several people to talk more, especially BG, who I still could vote for.

[Niniel]

Ehm, the quote got lost of the way. This was the quotes I´m waiting for.

 

Yeah it is good like that. God, I am growing tired of slow games. It makes me not want to play. Regardless there is some good info to be found now, a few quotes coming soon.

[Basel Gill]

I just went back and re-read WBK's posts and I'm going to buy his explanation, it seems valid. I'm not going to vote on the bandwagon Kae, though. WBK's initial post that both Kae and I misread is written a bit confusingly, so I think her misreading of it sounds legit. Unvote.

[bgrishinko]

I agree about BG, that seems odd to me. I could go with voting him or Kae. Her for the bandwagoning vote.

 

You COULD go for me... and yet haven't. You COULD go for Kae... and yet haven't. Interesting strategy Kaylee.

 

Waiting for these quotes.

 

Welcome, Turin.

 

Unvote. Vote Kae.

 

I think WBK´s explanation makes sense, even though I don´t like his vote. Kae´s vote for WBK came after the explanation. So did Basel´s too, if I remember it right. I want several people to talk more, especially BG, who I still could vote for.

 

Look, Tina COULD vote for me... and yet votes Kae. I'm sensing a pattern.

 

Unvote: Vote Kaylee... though I COULD vote for Tina as well.

[Turin Turambar]

Wow. Not much content.

 

I am more in agreement with Tina with regard to lynching inactive players here. This game only has 12 to start. If you let them slide two days then it is close to end game and can't risk taking a shot in the dark . Besides voting could draw them out. Which gives information in itself. As far as potential power roles lurking. They need to stop. As town it is everyone's duty to hunt mafia. Mafia tend to shoot into the inactive pool anyway if they don't have a lead so is counter productive imo.

 

Is this Kronos' first game? Is he getting a D1 pass? If not then his post voting Tina was odd to me.

 

Basel jumping on him after he was called out looked worse to me tho. And then the immediate unvote when Tina called him on it was questionable.

 

Rand is jumping on every train that develops with little to back it up. Like he is channeling Nolder d1 bandwagon.

 

Despo, I found it odd that you seemed to chastise the game for spam when you were the main culprit. Also the no linking statement at rand. It looked more like you were trying to infer a link was bring created when none existed.

 

BG is glib. This makes me nervous. Maybe he is just feeling better.

 

Kaylee, I would rather see you have a vote placed.

 

Tress. Deadline is the 15th right?

 

vote Basel

 

But as stated earlier I would be okay taking out a lurker. Play or don't play. There should be no lurk.

[bgrishinko]

Feeling great other than the need to cough up a lung now and again.

[Tyler Glembo]

Welcome Turin.

 

@Songstress, there is a typo and it says day 1 will end yesterday, Nov 13th. Just a heads up because I was a little confused that I had missed something when logging on this morning

[Songstress]

Tress. Deadline is the 15th right?

 

Why yes, thank you. I can't type >.<

[RandA lThor]

I just went back and re-read WBK's posts and I'm going to buy his explanation, it seems valid. I'm not going to vote on the bandwagon Kae, though. WBK's initial post that both Kae and I misread is written a bit confusingly, so I think her misreading of it sounds legit. Unvote.

 

The thing that gets me is that even after she was given a chance to reread and see a perfectly fine explanation that makes sense with the scenario, she still keeps her vote on him, like she wants to keep it there until deadline comes so she can go "Oh, we have to consolidate."

[Sakaea]

I see no reason to change my vote because you don't agree with me. I also don't want to vote for anyone else atm, so am leaving my vote where it is. I've already stated that I think his explanation was weak, and you harping about it makes me feel like you're scum trying to protect a team-mate. That said...Rand, are you scum?

[Darthe]

 

I appreciate you wanting to get the game going Tina, but I do kinda find it funny that you would say that about me. I'm known for having a meta of trying to look semi scummy both to benefit me when I'm mafia and to help avoid nk's when I'm town.

 

Simply put, there's never really a circumstance when I would ever try to look "normal" and townie. That was simply me feeling spammy, nothing more.

 

And @Peace: Me? I would NEVER insult another player so! You might be able to argue that the comic I posted was calling him one, but not in a million years would I have the audacity to personally insult another player!

 

 

I usually do this exact thing, attempting to WIFOM myself enough that the town stays confused (helps my meta as mafia) and also attempting to avoid the NK. However, since I started playing on mafiascum I learned that nobody there does this and they want to kill me for it. It actually ends up more efficient to be clear and basically prove yourself as town as you can as quickly as you can. It leaves the mafia with less wiggle room by far.

 

Despo is using Meta to clear himself. Certainly I smell scum on this one's breath.

 

This was pretty misrepresented me thinks.

 

Despo is using Meta to clear himself. Certainly I smell scum on this one's breath.

 

Yes. And still you don´t vote him.

 

Scum kinda smells like onions, so its a null tell.

 

And this seems to invalidate your earlier assessment... Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

 

 

Well, to get it moving, someone has to do something suspicious.

 

Rand, that's your cue.

Hey Rand, are you scum?

 

*sigh* Fine. I am IT. Go.

 

This is way bugging me. Rand hasn't been playing fully on his game lately but here he has WIFOM'd himself to an extent that can't easily be ignored (googled IT from the book). At best this sort of joke will eventually create issues later.

 

I'd just like to point out that some people in the past have complained that games start too fast. That there should be good day 1 banter before we all get "serious."

 

Well, this game has had 2 solid days with only 3 pages of posts. So, forgive me if in the future I jump down anyone's throat who complains about the seriousness of day 1 play.

 

Amen to this post.

 

Incidentally, I don't really think much serious gameplay has really gone on either, been mainly spam for the most part

 

Vote Tina tho

 

She's a bit too aggressive out the gate this game, and her early linking of me and BG is troubling.

 

 

 

Haven't read the series..doubt I will. Hopefully I'll be playing a game of mafia soon with a Wrinkle in Time them.

 

Just kidding. I think we need a deadline imposed to motivate us (me included) to start the scum hunting.

 

 

 

Also, I agree with Despo about lynching inactives day one. I know I haven't said much this game. I plan on reading through and posting thoughts tonight.

 

These thoughts never came.

 

Reading through the thread there is very little to go on. I completely understand Tina's point about wanting to get the game moving, but it seemed to me to be pushing a little hard. The only reason I say this is because I feel like Tina is probably a very experienced player (or at least it seems to so me) and would have known ahead of time Despo's point about lynching townies or power roles early.

vote Tina

 

TG's first ping. @Turin, no D1 pass as this isn't his first game.

 

I completely understand about not helping out town by not posting anything game related. It really doesn't give the town much to go on for anyone, which is frustrating. I voted you based on the little to go on about any one, but I share your concerns. I did like the point you made about using vote casting to get some action going before the deadline, so maybe that is what we need to do more of? It did bring BG out of the wood works.

 

How did this bring BG out at all? Also, if you like her point and share her concerns then why are you voting her?

 

Tina strikes me as a bit aggressive from the get go. Lynching inactives does not help town, but neither does inactivity.

 

Based on what I see I'm going to vote tina

 

I'm waiting to hear from others though...also, I think the joke votes need to be taken down as the game is starting to move.

 

The above question to TG can apply to you as well. You're both agreeing with and voting Tina.

 

Well, my first thought that's really game related is that WBK is scummy. Other than that, I haven't formed too much of an opinion in this game yet.

 

I just got home from having my car towed. Engine may really be toast....

 

Sorry about your car, this post was bs. why is WBK scummy, how did you manage to pick him and not TG, why do you have nothing to say about Despo or Tina? Someone as advanced as you should know how to hunt for town signs as well as mafia signs in peoples play.

 

Sorry, I am here but there just isn't much I feel a need to comment on.

 

However, I'm going to Unvote, vote WBK for reasons previously stated.

 

Then this happens ).)

 

Okay caught up. I don't really like Kae's vote on WBK either, and I've noticed a strange pattern of going after inexperienced players from her lately. That being said I still like my vote on BG, he stands out the most to me this game, and his jokey omgus vote really didn't sit right with me at all.

 

Since we still don't have a deadline, we still have time to talk this over, and I can do a more detailed reread tomorrow night at work and see if I need to change my vote to anyone else then

 

Can you give a bit more here on why BG is standout compared to Kae or how you can case someone based on 3-4 posts in the game? I ask because so far very little about you seems anti-town. You just happen to be placing a comperably large number of votes =p

 

I just went back and re-read WBK's posts and I'm going to buy his explanation, it seems valid. I'm not going to vote on the bandwagon Kae, though. WBK's initial post that both Kae and I misread is written a bit confusingly, so I think her misreading of it sounds legit. Unvote.

 

This is a weak reason to unvote. If Kae or WBK end up scummy I will be back here.

 

I just went back and re-read WBK's posts and I'm going to buy his explanation, it seems valid. I'm not going to vote on the bandwagon Kae, though. WBK's initial post that both Kae and I misread is written a bit confusingly, so I think her misreading of it sounds legit. Unvote.

 

The thing that gets me is that even after she was given a chance to reread and see a perfectly fine explanation that makes sense with the scenario, she still keeps her vote on him, like she wants to keep it there until deadline comes so she can go "Oh, we have to consolidate."

 

I can't decide if you're off your game or bussing but this post is all wrong in it's approach. For now I am voting for the surest thing here. Unvote Vote Kae.

[Turin Turambar]

Rand, are you suggesting an attempt will be made to push a consolidation on a person that presently has one vote? Barring new information I doubt that happens.

 

Darthe, I was asking about Kronos being new. But thanks for letting me know about TGlems

[Darthe]

^ WBK has been around for several as well, my B :)

[Tyler Glembo]

 

This is way bugging me. Rand hasn't been playing fully on his game lately but here he has WIFOM'd himself to an extent that can't easily be ignored (googled IT from the book). At best this sort of joke will eventually create issues later.

 

I haven't played enough to know how far the "Rand are you scum" joke goes. I pointed out that he actually claimed a bad guy character from the books because those of you who have played more will have a better idea of whether this is a standard joke or something more.

 

 

Reading through the thread there is very little to go on. I completely understand Tina's point about wanting to get the game moving, but it seemed to me to be pushing a little hard. The only reason I say this is because I feel like Tina is probably a very experienced player (or at least it seems to so me) and would have known ahead of time Despo's point about lynching townies or power roles early.

vote Tina

 

TG's first ping. @Turin, no D1 pass as this isn't his first game.

 

I completely understand about not helping out town by not posting anything game related. It really doesn't give the town much to go on for anyone, which is frustrating. I voted you based on the little to go on about any one, but I share your concerns. I did like the point you made about using vote casting to get some action going before the deadline, so maybe that is what we need to do more of? It did bring BG out of the wood works.

 

How did this bring BG out at all? Also, if you like her point and share her concerns then why are you voting her?

 

I thought I was clear that I agree with her point about wanting activity because we all want activity also (especially as it is helpful to town and makes the games much more robust/entertaining) but thought she took the argument too far in stating she wanted to lynch less active players right away. Thus, I agree with the original sentiment but not in the forcefulness of how far to take it and voted her. It just didn't make sense to me for her to be that aggressive when as an experienced player she would already know Despo's counter arguments. However, the idea of using votes to bring people out and make them react is a good one. It is just a fine balance between taking it too far and lynching people early for less activity compared to using it effectively to get action going and and I thought Tina fell on the "scummy" side of that balance.

 

As for bringing BG out, as soon as he was voted by peace with a quick bandwagon vote by Despo he posted something within a couple posts (even though it wasn't terribly game relevant). So, the idea that using a vote to bring activity panned out.

[Kaylee]

Didn't get the chance to read through and gather thoughts. Haven't been feeling well. So for now I'll Vote BG. I should be able to get online on my lunch tomorrow to consolidate I'd need be.

[Kaylee]

Also, FYI: I'm changing jobs so I'll do my best to be more active. Starting Monday I'll have more time to get online.

[hazelkrs1]

Unofficial Vote Count:

 

Tina (3) - Darthe, TG, Kronos

BG (3) - Peace, Despo, Kaylee

Kronos (1) - Kae

Kae (3) - Rand, Tina, Darthe

Kaylee (1) - BG

Basel (1) - Turin

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

[hazelkrs1]

Rereading right now btw

[hazelkrs1]

Puttin this wot in spoiler text to make it easier on the thread and if it gets quoted or something

 

 

 

Despo is using Meta to clear himself. Certainly I smell scum on this one's breath.

 

Wanted to point this out again. I never tried using meta to clear myself, and of course that would have been pretty ridiculous of me if I have tried since the game was on it's second page and meta wouldn't have really been established yet. And if he certainly smelled scum on my breath, I don't see why he wouldn't have voted me

 

Hi all.

 

Vote Ishy with

 

LOL, I do that in almost every game we're in together. He's my Bonded

 

Just wanted to point this out, if I'm not mistaken when Kae usually votes for Ishy, she doesn't explain that it's a joke/wub vote. She might still put the wub smiley, but I don't think I've ever seen her actually say "with "

 

Well, to get it moving, someone has to do something suspicious.

 

Rand, that's your cue.

 

Hey Rand, are you scum?

 

So on my reread I was getting this faint feeling that Basel and Kae could be linked. What started it was when Basel unvoted from WBK, but said he would not be joining the Kae train.

 

Anyhoo, on this part it does kinda feel like teammates working together a bit, one setting up the "ask Rand if he's mafia" joke, and then Kae finishing it. Now, before yall think I'm just jumping at shadows, I wanna point this out-

 

Reading through the thread, for those not familiar with the books IT was actually the evil disembodied brain from the book. Just thought I'd let everyone know.

 

So you are saying Rand has claimed a villain character, then? Rand, are you SURE that you aren't scum?

 

I see no reason to change my vote because you don't agree with me. I also don't want to vote for anyone else atm, so am leaving my vote where it is. I've already stated that I think his explanation was weak, and you harping about it makes me feel like you're scum trying to protect a team-mate. That said...Rand, are you scum?

 

HRRMMMRMRMMMMMM

 

So Basel and Kae play at the Rand admitting he's scum angle AGAIN. Basel's post isn't quite as egregious since he more than likely didn't know that It was a villain in the first book, but Kae's post def pings majorly. I mean, she already made the "Rand, are you scum" joke once, yet makes it a second time, this time adding a smiley to make it clear that she is kidding

 

 

Also, I agree with Despo about lynching inactives day one. I know I haven't said much this game. I plan on reading through and posting thoughts tonight.

 

Ping for the "I know I haven't said much this game" part. Seems like pre-defensiveness on her part. I've seen Kaylee be much less involved in a game a lot further along than this and still not be apologetic

 

Haven't read the series..doubt I will. Hopefully I'll be playing a game of mafia soon with a Wrinkle in Time them.

 

Just kidding. I think we need a deadline imposed to motivate us (me included) to start the scum hunting.

 

Faint ping cause Peace hasn't really done much to contribute to the game other than complaining about it not being active. Townie cred from me denied!

 

Yeah he's the main bad guy in the first book.

 

Yall should follow me on to Tina. If nothing else, it can kick start the game a bit so we don't all have to keep complaining about it not getting started.

 

Or train on me, meh. Or bring up a case on someone completely different. Hello! You live to play the game.

 

/Herm'd

 

What? Never seen you do somethin like this before, its not in your meta for anything.

 

The reason this post stands out to me is that Rand first addresses the thing about him "claiming" a villain from the first book, but then follows it up with a quote by me and attempt at redirection. This feels strange for me because I think Rand would most often address the admitting he's scum joke first, and then in a seperate post quoting someone and saying something. The format of this post just seemed a bit weird, from him.

 

Vote Despo, I'm not getting a townie vibe from him.

 

Sorry, clicked on the wrong game thread. Unvote Guess I shouldn't post before coffee or with baby in arms.

 

Not sure how to address this, as it kind of involves another game still ongoing, but here goes: She mentions that she clicked on the wrong thread and meant to vote for me in another game, but then in that other game she not only doesn't vote me, but generally seems to agree with me.

 

Forget about the other game now. My point is, this still doesn't really make any sense since she apparently didn't want to vote me in the other game as well, so it could be that she was told to vote me on the mafia QT, but posted before making her vote seem more legit, or possibly that she is mafia and meant to vote me, but then read the QT and saw that her teammates were planning something else or something.

 

Not that solid, but this still seems strange to me. Kaylee, if you plan on responding, try to do your best not to involve anything from the other game into this one if that's possible

 

I completely understand about not helping out town by not posting anything game related. It really doesn't give the town much to go on for anyone, which is frustrating. I voted you based on the little to go on about any one, but I share your concerns. I did like the point you made about using vote casting to get some action going before the deadline, so maybe that is what we need to do more of? It did bring BG out of the wood works.

 

WAAAAAAY too politiciany here. He voted for Tina, but shares her concerns? In fact I think that might be the first time I've ever heard ANYONE say they share someone else's concerns in a mafia game. BP for TG (BP=Big Ping)

 

Tina strikes me as a bit aggressive from the get go. Lynching inactives does not help town, but neither does inactivity.

 

Based on what I see I'm going to vote tina

 

I'm waiting to hear from others though...also, I think the joke votes need to be taken down as the game is starting to move.

 

Don't like the last bit at the end, seems like WBK trying to earn townie cred here

 

Wow. Not much content.

 

I am more in agreement with Tina with regard to lynching inactive players here. This game only has 12 to start. If you let them slide two days then it is close to end game and can't risk taking a shot in the dark . Besides voting could draw them out. Which gives information in itself. As far as potential power roles lurking. They need to stop. As town it is everyone's duty to hunt mafia. Mafia tend to shoot into the inactive pool anyway if they don't have a lead so is counter productive imo.

 

Is this Kronos' first game? Is he getting a D1 pass? If not then his post voting Tina was odd to me.

 

Basel jumping on him after he was called out looked worse to me tho. And then the immediate unvote when Tina called him on it was questionable.

 

Rand is jumping on every train that develops with little to back it up. Like he is channeling Nolder d1 bandwagon.

 

Despo, I found it odd that you seemed to chastise the game for spam when you were the main culprit. Also the no linking statement at rand. It looked more like you were trying to infer a link was bring created when none existed.

 

BG is glib. This makes me nervous. Maybe he is just feeling better.

 

Kaylee, I would rather see you have a vote placed.

 

Tress. Deadline is the 15th right?

 

vote Basel

 

But as stated earlier I would be okay taking out a lurker. Play or don't play. There should be no lurk.

 

Well before I move to respond to your other points, I wanted to clear a couple of things up about me first that you have wrong. First off, I never chastised anyone for spam. Peace I believe, had just commented on the slow activity of the game, and I remarked that most of what little people had posted so far was spam. That was more a remark about the lack of gameplay-focused activity than a comment on spam at all. The other thing was that I made the comment about linking to Tina, not Rand. She linked me and BG by calling us the "onion boys" (unless I'm wrong and she was referencing other players)

 

As for the other stuff, in regards to inactive players: I agree that mafia will often shoot into the pool of inactives, so lurking really isn't a good strategy for power roles, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of players tend to think it smarter to play more low key with a power role. And your point about it being a smaller game makes it that much more important to have as informative of a lynch as possible each day, since we can afford less mislynches. Lynching an inactive is never that informative of a lynch.

 

I think this is WBK's second game if I'm not mistaken

 

Rand does seem to be pinging slightly to me. Will keep an eye on him.

 

Did BG ever mention on thread that he wasn't feeling good? Unless he mentioned it somewhere else that you picked up on, this makes me slightly worried that he mentioned not feeling good on a QT but not on thread.

 

All those thoughts on other players, yet you give no reasoning for your vote on Basel, even tho you acknowledged that the deadline is coming up. FOS

 

Didn't get the chance to read through and gather thoughts. Haven't been feeling well. So for now I'll Vote BG. I should be able to get online on my lunch tomorrow to consolidate I'd need be.

 

Well first of all Kaylee didn't make good on her promise from before to give more detailed thoughts. More importantly however, she mentions that she can consolidate, yet votes BG without giving reasons, and the fact that BG is prob the best chance for a lynch besides Kae is somewhat telling.

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

Post reread analysis: Still don't like BG. Picking up minor pings from Rand, TG, and WBK. Turin's catchup post was a little strange, for giving thoughts on multiple players but no reason for his vote on Basel. And Peace in particular I'd like to hear more from, he hasn't really given us much to go on.

 

But most important is the Basel/Kae/Kaylee connection. Basel has a stronger connection with Kae after my reread, but both him and Kaylee seemed to be reluctant about voting Kae. This makes a Kae lynch a potentially very informative one.

 

Unvote, Vote Kae

[Basel Gill]

For competing trains, and cause she seemed a bit overeager to push things along, I'm going to vote Tina.