[Light Vs Shadow] - HEROES AND VILLIANS MAFIA

[Amadine]

Interesting results from night and what a day so far...

 

What I have so far is that Des outed a list of those who may or may not have targeted womby, including Hoof -the hider who dies if he hides with scum- womby then claims doc -after already claiming inventor which turn seems to know something about due to his role- and des claims wombat was bussed...

 

Which if he were bussed with someone else then des got results on someone else but didn't someone confirm from the list that they targeted womby?

 

Oh Light this is making my head hurt! Im not particularly keen on lynching a claimed doc -*snugglebites womby for that by the way*- but what direction is suggested.

 

I think the mass reveal des called for on only day 3 is super scummy but his role claim feels genuine, turin appears to suggest that he is either the inventor himself or a role cop -often a scum role- and tina's and Kae's soft claim feels off.

 

Not sure what direction to go in from here, but I will vote when I decide in which direction my suspicions are strongest.

 

Please let me know if I stuffed anything up (ie role claims, targets,etc) , mafia played by phone is most difficult :-/

[hotpocket2006]

For now, I will confirm that I visited Wombat, but I'm going to keep why/for what purpose to myself for now. I believe a reveal on my part would be detrimental right now.

 

However, due to what all has happened, I believe Wombat's coroner report will help to clear a lot of the WIFOMs we have going on. So, Vote Wombat

 

UNVOTE, VOTE SAKEA I'd like to clear up something I got as my results last night. She didn't target womby last night. Or maybe that's where she started but ended up on someone else. But maybe it'll help clear the air on the suspicions I have on her.

[hotpocket2006]

UNVOTE, VOTE SAKAEA

[Pantsonfire]

Des did not call for a mass reveal. He was just saying that we need to pressure those on the list into saying something about what why they were targeting Wombat last night because scum would be likely to trip up on their words and say something incongruent or lie.

 

I don't mind the sound of his idea, and I think we may have jumped ahead of what he was suggesting. Someone cried 'Des wants a mass reveal!' and then the topic spread like a wildfire.

[WWWwombat]

I'm Spiderman.

[Red2111]

UNVOTE

 

not sure if i believe all this bus driving nonsince right now but i'm not going to lynch a proclaimed healer.

 

 

also Pants, read the rules. stop asking for peoples characters names, we can't character reveal without mod penalty. this is scummy imo, though i'm glad to see your fully off your spam kick

 

 

 

that said, Des was calling for a type of mass role reveal, a mass reveal from his list which was what 6 people, all with NA's which (like others have said) will really help the scum more than us, not to mention with our healer outed and finder dead this puts us in a major pinch.

 

 

the only role reveal i want is the Bus Driver. if your town you can help us out, whoever you switched with Wombat is obviously scum; so reveal and tell us who so we can lynch them instead.

[Niniel]

I get a head ache of reading this. Talya said it was difficult herself. It´s obvious that Des saw us all visiting Wombat last night since no one has said they didn´t. But why did Blackhoof end up with Ley? Since there are many knots here I think I will reveal my role so that is clear. If mafia targets me tonight it doesn´t hurt town too much. I´m the town roleblocker. First night I didn´t block anyone. Last night I blocked Wombat. I did it because I would knew if he lied if he told us he had invented something. The thing is I don´t think there was a mafia nk last night. Why would they kill one of their own? And if it wasn´t a mafia kill why is that? Because I blocked the killer?

 

To me it looks like Wombat has made two fake claims. I read an old game thread a few days ago where he was part of the mafia and the qt just showed me how smart he is. If he was doc - was it smart to fake claim inventor? Has he contributed to anything today? Why would Spiderman be a healer? Can he heal? Again, I haven´t seen the movies so it´s an honest question.

 

On the other side - why would 7 townies visit him? I´m suspicious of Leelou and Sakaea. Now Song says that Sakaea didn´t visit Wombat last night. But she says she did and Des also says so. *sigh*

 

I should need to reread from the beginning but I don´t think I can manage that. If nothing else comes up I will probably vote Wombat again but we still have a lot of time to discuss it.

[Sakaea]

I did visit Wombat. And since without revealing why I visited him, this is going to go nowhere, I'm a Jailkeeper. Whoever I visit is protected from kills and is also roleblocked.

So Song, please explain your suspicions. I did indeed send my action in on Wombat. I was not informed of being redirected.

[Turin Turambar]

So how many role blockers are in this game?

 

 

Sakaea says she is a Jailer. Are there mafia jailers? I have some doubt to this claim

Tina claims she is a town RBer. and thinks wombat is still mafia. I would like to hear her theory.

Wombat fake claimed inventor, and now is claiming the doc,

Des is apparently a watcher, or is being fed info from a mafia team mate.

Song is claiming that Kae didn't really visit wombat although Kae again says she did.

BG and Leelou have not really had much to say. I would like to hear from them.

 

I was pretty sure that wombat's inventor claim was false and looked to confirm a suspicion last night. Unfortunately it looks like EVERYONE else in the game decided to look in on him as well. what a train wreck.

[Leelou]

Wombat, you must feel very special to have so many people visit you in 1 night. I am the bus driver. I felt Nol/Ley was scummier than Wombat and I figured with Wombat's claim if he wasn't scum someone would try to kill him. I didn't realize so many people would target Wombat. I'm sorry if this is rushed, but I have to go to an interview in a few minutes. I just didn't want everyone hanging here and saying that I'm laying low. I will answer questions later when I have time.

[Sakaea]

Well, according to the mafia wiki, a Jailer can be either faction. I'm a townie jailer. Personally, I've never seen a scum Jailer. *shrugs* You're right tho, what a train wreck.

[Talya]

DAY 3 Vote

 

Wombat (3): Red, Tiinks, Tina, Turin, Des, Song, Sakaea

 

Sakaea (1): Song

 

Tina (0): Des

 

With 16 people left it takes 9 to lynch. Day 3 ends Friday 9pm GMT

 

 

[bgrishinko]

I believe that either Tina or Kae are lying. Too many RBs in this kitchen.

[Sakaea]

Ok, just to keep it all straight...

 

Des claimed Watcher

Leelou claimed Bus Driver

Tina claimed Roleblocker

Wombat claimed Inventor, then Healer

I claimed Jailer

 

Did I miss anything?

[Tiinker]

I haven´t seen LotR (and will never do)

 

EH?!?!?!

 

 

Why in the world not? Great movies, simply brilliant. Doesn't matter that they don't fit everything in, in general they're simply the standard for how to create an epic fantasy motion picture.

 

As for rl, I don't like doubting people when they say that, but like I said, I've been conditioned to be wary of it after every mafia game I've been in. Didn't want to offend you or anything

 

I concur! Tina! EH?!?!?!

 

Unvote

 

 

I was pretty sure that wombat's inventor claim was false and looked to confirm a suspicion last night.

 

Okay what? I can't expect that there are 2 finders in this game so this looks to me like a scum slip.

 

Vote Turin

[WWWwombat]

I do feel special. Everyone partying at the Wombat Burrow last night.

[Sakaea]

I agree. And I know it's not me that's lying, so Vote Tina

 

I bet she's a scum RB.

[Sakaea]

I do feel special. Everyone partying at the Wombat Burrow last night.

 

 

LOL!

 

And Tina, the Elves in LOTR are amazing.

[Sakaea]

I believe that either Tina or Kae are lying. Too many RBs in this kitchen.

 

 

My agreement was aimed at this post, btw.

[Niniel]

I see you are eager to vote me, Sakaea.

[hazelkrs1]

Alright, I'm glad some are finally seeing the merits of my plan and were getting more info. I really think this stuff will help town more in the end. So my thoughts on each player that's kind of involved in this right now:

 

Tina - right now, I'm actually believing her, that she is a RB'er at least. Her post asking Wombat seems very clear that she was trying to trip him up in a lie. Now we have to figure out if she's town or mafia, since RB'er can easily be either faction.

 

Turin - he's still trying to be kind of sly about his part in things, but someone else (ama actually) voiced that he himself might be the inventor, or still a role cop trying to be ambiguous. What he said about me doesn't really make much sense though, I think he's still trying to undermine my results and keep people suspicious of me.

 

Leelou - so she claims a town bus driver. Well we should consider that there did seem to be some strange reasoning in why mafia would try bussing, blocking, AND killing Wombat in the same night, so this might explain some things. For now I'm trusting her claim and believe her to be town, but I'll keep watching her.

 

Sakaea - claims jailer, but song says she knows kae DIDN'T target Wombat. Honestly I'm most wary of her because Kae made this reveal after Tina revealed she RB'ed Wombat, so it makes it a bit safer PLUS by claiming jailer she can try to out the real jailer if she's lying. I'll hold my vote on her till we hear back from Song again.

 

BG - Hasn't really claimed yet and has been the most ambiguous, plus I didn't like him pushing Poet's lynch. Also wary of him.

 

Wombat - Tina brought up how there wasn't really a mafia NK last night, but there easily could have been but was bussed to Ley by Leelou (if that is what happened, way to go leelers!). Plus, if Kae is telling the truth then wombat was protected, so perhaps THAT'S why he wasn't killed, and someone else on my list is a vig/SK like I guessed. There's another possibility here, but I don't want to destroy a WIFOM that Wombat might have been trying to set up. For now we kind of have to trust Wombat though because trying to lynch a claimed healer is just dumb. Still, he's not completely cleared yet.

 

Also, @Red: Talya came out and said it wasn't against the rules to reveal character names. It was quoted recently as well, so FOS for skimming. Also FOS for being the one most against this idea which WILL help town achieve victory if we go about it in the right way.

 

For now, Sakaea and BG I'm most wary of, but since Kae will most likely get pressure anyways via Song, I'd like to get more pressure on BG to see what happens. Vote BG.

[Sakaea]

I'm still waiting for an answer from Song. I'm very curious as to what she has to say.

[hazelkrs1]

I believe that either Tina or Kae are lying. Too many RBs in this kitchen.

 

I definitely believe there is a jailer in this game because I think Kae targeted me the first night (and possibly saved my butt btw, if that's the case thanks Kae ). I think you're trying to lead us away from your trail, and possibly set up a gambit with either Tina or Kae.

 

I haven´t seen LotR (and will never do)

 

EH?!?!?!

 

 

Why in the world not? Great movies, simply brilliant. Doesn't matter that they don't fit everything in, in general they're simply the standard for how to create an epic fantasy motion picture.

 

I concur! Tina! EH?!?!?!

 

Unvote

 

 

 

I was pretty sure that wombat's inventor claim was false and looked to confirm a suspicion last night.

 

Okay what? I can't expect that there are 2 finders in this game so this looks to me like a scum slip.

 

Vote Turin

 

I do kinda agree with you, something about Turin seems off right now.

 

I agree. And I know it's not me that's lying, so Vote Tina

 

I bet she's a scum RB.

 

And then you follow along with BG's reasoning. Scum teammates perhaps?

 

Her post was in agreement with BG's btw.

 

Out of my list I trust BG, Sakaea, and Turin the least right now

[Talya]

 

And Tina, the Elves in LOTR are amazing.

 

Especially Legolas... >.>

[Aiel Heart]

Ok:

 

1) I'm going to probably be scarce this week because

2) the internet is crappy at my Grandmas and

3) I'm using her computer right now which isn't very good at multitasking and it would probably have a heart attack if I tried to go through and have a bunch of replies in a single post

 

4) YIKES

5) I guess our joke votes on Ley weren't misplaced

6) I will go through and look at all of this mess when I can have a bunch of replies so I can try to pick all of this apart

7) Des seems VERY panic-y to me

8) There are a bunch of people that seem to be lying.

9) I will not vote until I can get a clear look at this mess

 

10) hopefully I will be able to go somewhere with wireless internet and be able to use my laptop to look at all of this soon.

 

So in summery: here sparatically, am reading, but will do nothing until I can get a closer look at everyone's claims.