The Ape's --- OUTBREAK MAFIA: GAME OVER!

John E. Kelley · October 1, 2011

@ Ishy: So what do you propose to do about it?

@ Everyone else: I have no idea about what the theme is about. Does Hoof's softclaim stack up? Either way, I still read his original post as a major slip.

Probably nothing. He'll either be lynched or MK'd,you all have seen to that. Respect for the mod should have kept ya'll from egging this on, this obviously circumvents Ape's plan for the game. This all needs to stop.

Blackhoof · October 1, 2011

i agree.

no mroe speculation about who is mutant or not based on there "slips" ok? please?

cosmicpanda · October 1, 2011

Probably nothing. He'll either be lynched or MK'd,you all have seen to that. Respect for the mod should have kept ya'll from egging this on, this obviously circumvents Ape's plan for the game. This all needs to stop.

Are you that apathetic about his lynch?

And how is this not mafia? I know the mod has some quite strict rules about 'gaming the mod,' etc, but this is just mafia fundamentals.

ed2funy · October 1, 2011

Unvote

Vote BG

Just reread the thread with more sleep in my body.

ed2funy · October 1, 2011

RE Hoof: His slip up on infected or not is sus, but his partial rule breaking thing contradicts this.

FOS Pandy.

Voting BG for his involvement around the situation at the time.

bgrishinko · October 1, 2011

I, for one, am moving on from this.

Vote Red

Suspiciously absent lately.

Amadine · October 1, 2011

Ill be scarce for another 24 hours will read and chime in when I get home from my cousins wedding

Niniel · October 1, 2011

@ Verby: Fair enough. Perhaps.

Train starting to smell.

unvote

Wombat, your positions on Blackhoof seem a bit contradictory. Why do you want a claim if you're not voting for him?

As for the unvotes, I agree with them. It came about far too quickly, and with little to no discussion

I thought your mistake was more innocuous. This has me less sure. I'll explain:

It is my understanding from my role PM that town are infected and that mafia are not. Blackhoof appears not to have known this, indicating that he has a different win condition or wasn't given the same info. Thus, Hoof isn't town.

I agree. I hope I will get time later today to reread and take a look at other players as well. My daughter is here for the weekend so I will probably have to wait until she goes to sleep. I want to spend as much time as possible with her.

Sakaea · October 1, 2011

I'm not active much on weekends, but I will check in when I can.

John McClane · October 1, 2011

The point of the game is not, "did he break the mod's rule - can we get him mod killed?" It is "do I think this person is scum?"

I will neither confirm or deny Blackhoof's partial character reveal. I will however say, true or not, it was enough to consider a modkill - but I chose to spare him because the game had low activity, and I didn't want my mod death scene cherry to be a mod kill. Start hunting scum now.... I want you guys to do the killing, not me.

Blackhoof · October 1, 2011

Fair enough

unvote vote panda

His vote on me was the definition of opportunistic bandwwagoning

John E. Kelley · October 1, 2011

Fair enough

unvote vote panda

His vote on me was the definition of opportunistic bandwwagoning

^This. And also continuing to belabor the point.

Unvote. Vote Panda.

John E. Kelley · October 1, 2011

*also for continuing*

Louise · October 1, 2011

Sorry guys I'm a bit busy at the moment, finding it hard to get online.

I'll re-read after I've gotten some proper sleep, and should be able to post something tomorrow arvo. Sorry for the delay.

amegakure · October 1, 2011

So I know its not bandwagoning but don't u seem a bit eager on that vote Ishy? Other than hoofs omgus vote what's ur reasoning?

John E. Kelley · October 1, 2011

@ Verby: Fair enough. Perhaps.

Train starting to smell.

unvote

Wombat, your positions on Blackhoof seem a bit contradictory. Why do you want a claim if you're not voting for him?

As for the unvotes, I agree with them. It came about far too quickly, and with little to no discussion

I thought your mistake was more innocuous. This has me less sure. I'll explain:

It is my understanding from my role PM that town are infected and that mafia are not. Blackhoof appears not to have known this, indicating that he has a different win condition or wasn't given the same info. Thus, Hoof isn't town.

After attempting to answer Ameg's question and gather quotes to back up my FoS on Panda, I came across this gem. I can't believe I both missed this one, nor thought of it myself. Bolding is mine, Hoof, whether he broke a rule or not, is obviously not town and has a different win condition than the rest of us. He doesn't need to have broken a rule to be voted out, being scum is plenty enough for me.

Unvote. Vote Hoof.

Niniel · October 1, 2011

Fair enough

unvote vote panda

His vote on me was the definition of opportunistic bandwwagoning

He was the first one voting you if I remember it right. How can that be opportunistic bandwagoning?

amegakure · October 1, 2011

Yea this is off. Ishy is jumping around. But hoof just docent seem innocent either.

John McClane · October 2, 2011

D1 Vote Count

Blackhoof (6) - Panda, Verbal, Leyrann, Red, Tina, Ish

Red (3) - Ameg, Wombat, BG

Tina (1) - Louii

Wombat (1) - Hybrid

BG (2) - Sakea, Ed2

Panda (1) - Blackhoof

Not voting (2): Kivam, Amadine

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, 6:00 PM EST

Verbal32 · October 2, 2011

What in the h-e-double hockey sticks is going on here?

Verbal32 · October 2, 2011

That was rhetorical, btw.

Need to do some re-reading.

bgrishinko · October 2, 2011

What in the h-e-double hockey sticks is going on here?

I haven't heard that since elementary school.

Blackhoof · October 2, 2011

@ Verby: Fair enough. Perhaps.

Train starting to smell.

unvote

Wombat, your positions on Blackhoof seem a bit contradictory. Why do you want a claim if you're not voting for him?

As for the unvotes, I agree with them. It came about far too quickly, and with little to no discussion

I thought your mistake was more innocuous. This has me less sure. I'll explain:

It is my understanding from my role PM that town are infected and that mafia are not. Blackhoof appears not to have known this, indicating that he has a different win condition or wasn't given the same info. Thus, Hoof isn't town.

After attempting to answer Ameg's question and gather quotes to back up my FoS on Panda, I came across this gem. I can't believe I both missed this one, nor thought of it myself. Bolding is mine, Hoof, whether he broke a rule or not, is obviously not town and has a different win condition than the rest of us. He doesn't need to have broken a rule to be voted out, being scum is plenty enough for me.

Unvote. Vote Hoof.

Really? After asking us to stop this speculation u start it again? .u scummy flip-flopper :o

unvote vote ishy

John E. Kelley · October 2, 2011

@ Verby: Fair enough. Perhaps.

Train starting to smell.

unvote

Wombat, your positions on Blackhoof seem a bit contradictory. Why do you want a claim if you're not voting for him?

As for the unvotes, I agree with them. It came about far too quickly, and with little to no discussion

I thought your mistake was more innocuous. This has me less sure. I'll explain:

It is my understanding from my role PM that town are infected and that mafia are not. Blackhoof appears not to have known this, indicating that he has a different win condition or wasn't given the same info. Thus, Hoof isn't town.

After attempting to answer Ameg's question and gather quotes to back up my FoS on Panda, I came across this gem. I can't believe I both missed this one, nor thought of it myself. Bolding is mine, Hoof, whether he broke a rule or not, is obviously not town and has a different win condition than the rest of us. He doesn't need to have broken a rule to be voted out, being scum is plenty enough for me.

Unvote. Vote Hoof.

Really? After asking us to stop this speculation u start it again? .u scummy flip-flopper :o

unvote vote ishy

I, in no way, started it again, my vote was based entirely on your statement that you had a different win condition than the rest of us. I was very clear that I wanted us to overlook your blatant rule violation and vote entirely on your own statement that you weren't town. You made your own bed now lie in it, FoS on you trying to blame me for what is, in fact, your own lynch. Trying to blame me for what are your own posts is weak, and attempting to blame me for pointing out the obvious just confirms my case as far as I'm concerned. Ape stated that your slip-up didn't constitute an MK and I said that I was OK with that (as I should be, mod-ruling is law) so I made a case based on your posting entirely. You said you had a different win-condition than me, hence the vote. You can OMGUS vote me all you like (and that is what your vote was) but it doesn't change the fact that that was what your vote against me was, an attempt to switch attention to me to save yourself from what was, after all, a self-incriminating posting that you, yourself, made. There is no way for you back out of this one, you have made it plain yourself that you aren't town.

Leyrann · October 2, 2011

@ Verby: Fair enough. Perhaps.

Train starting to smell.

unvote

Wombat, your positions on Blackhoof seem a bit contradictory. Why do you want a claim if you're not voting for him?

As for the unvotes, I agree with them. It came about far too quickly, and with little to no discussion

I thought your mistake was more innocuous. This has me less sure. I'll explain:

It is my understanding from my role PM that town are infected and that mafia are not. Blackhoof appears not to have known this, indicating that he has a different win condition or wasn't given the same info. Thus, Hoof isn't town.

After attempting to answer Ameg's question and gather quotes to back up my FoS on Panda, I came across this gem. I can't believe I both missed this one, nor thought of it myself. Bolding is mine, Hoof, whether he broke a rule or not, is obviously not town and has a different win condition than the rest of us. He doesn't need to have broken a rule to be voted out, being scum is plenty enough for me.

Unvote. Vote Hoof.

Really? After asking us to stop this speculation u start it again? .u scummy flip-flopper :o

unvote vote ishy

I, in no way, started it again, my vote was based entirely on your statement that you had a different win condition than the rest of us. I was very clear that I wanted us to overlook your blatant rule violation and vote entirely on your own statement that you weren't town. You made your own bed now lie in it, FoS on you trying to blame me for what is, in fact, your own lynch. Trying to blame me for what are your own posts is weak, and attempting to blame me for pointing out the obvious just confirms my case as far as I'm concerned. Ape stated that your slip-up didn't constitute an MK and I said that I was OK with that (as I should be, mod-ruling is law) so I made a case based on your posting entirely. You said you had a different win-condition than me, hence the vote. You can OMGUS vote me all you like (and that is what your vote was) but it doesn't change the fact that that was what your vote against me was, an attempt to switch attention to me to save yourself from what was, after all, a self-incriminating posting that you, yourself, made. There is no way for you back out of this one, you have made it plain yourself that you aren't town.

Ehm, Ishy, if you are talking about that part you bolded a few posts ago, that was a post from Pandy.

So can you please show me a post in which Hoof says this, or a post that makes clear Pandy is right?

The Ape's --- OUTBREAK MAFIA: GAME OVER!

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