[Advanced] Lily's Mythical Beings Mafia

[Red2111]

so my thoughts on people who've reacted.

 

Barm and Verb seem legit. i know both these players detest No Lynches and will fight against them reguardless. Barms reasonings seem a bit twisted imo as he's trying topin me with the "anti-town" actions card; so he could be using this to set up a lynch on me further. i'd be good with more pressure on Barm.

 

Hybrid, came across as scummy. he blantantly states that he's blatantly bandwagoning me with a vote, then comes back to back it up and sides with barm on the No Lynch debate. not to mention, i'm still waving that BS flag over his reason which he has yet to address. i'm leaning more toward scum on this one.

 

Sakaea, shes another i'm on the fence about. i can see her reacting liek this both as scum and town; she distanced herself from the lynch rather fast imo, but seemed to leave a slight opening for her to jump back on later. i still dislike her needing to "justify" a joke vote with a reason though.

 

Desp. i'm still on the fence about. first he seemed like an ambitious scum then as he explained himself the reaction and vote sounded more legit. he dropped the distracting arguement which is a plus to him imo.

 

Lanth, has been in my corner from start on this No Lynch. this, i'm weary on. i know how set he is about No Lynch, but i can't help but think if he might be scum trying to align himself to me so my corner report helps clear him for a bit.

 

 

i think out of the people i've listed, Hybrid, Barm and Sakaea are who we should be pressuring.

[Sakaea]

I'm still finding it equally amusing and exasperating that I've now been FOS'd in different games, for joke voting with no reason, not reacting to a joke vote on me, and joke voting with a reason.

 

I FOS'd Hybrid earlier for his blatant bandwagoning, and as Red said^^, he hasn't addressed his reason yet. Would very much like to hear an answer from him. *waits patiently*

[Hybrid]

If you're not voting for someone on Day 1, you're not moving the game along.

 

In other news, I think Verbal and Blackhoof are on a team.

 

Dammit, did I send the QT to you as well? Foiled yet again.

 

Nothing so mundane.

 

I actually picked your names out of a hat, which we all know is a totally foolproof scumhunting method. There's about a 5% chance I'm right, or something like that, but since we all know that I'm always right, you can ignore the 95% chance that I'm wrong.

[Sakaea]

...VOTE HYBRID for still not answering. Evasion much?

[Red2111]

UNVOTE VOTE HYBRID

[hazelkrs1]

Red makes some good points, and for now I'm willing to lift my suspicions of her slightly. I still don't think the no lynch vote was a joke vote, and I don't agree with the play, but once again we DEF shouldn't policy lynch for something so trivial.

 

Unvote.

 

As for who I'm going to vote for, there's obviously no great candidates on first day, but I'll go ahead and Vote Lanth.

 

He seems to be trying as hard as he can to generate confusion and put a lot of question marks in our heads, which can be perfect for scum.

 

@ Sakea: This is mafia, doing literally anything, or nothing, will potentially draw the FOS upon you. It doesn't look like a lynch train is building on you anytime soon tho, so if you really are town you'll likely get more time to slowly vet yourself. Should you be scum, we'll catch a slip-up of yours eventually and remember what happened D1

[Verbal32]

so why dont you guys stop focusing on where my vote is and realize the fact that i'm not pushing for the No lynch and put our combined effort into sniffing out the scumsters that are likely on my vote. i'm betting atleast one couldn't help themselves but to pile on what looked like such an easy "legit" lynch.

 

Whoa. This is what I like to call a major backpeddle. You say you voted No Lynch (like Lanth likes to do), but only did it for reaction (like Mynd likes to do)?? Is that what your stance is?

 

But before you were pretty firm on your reasons. Somebody making that vote for "beating the grass to startle the snakes" reasons would not be as firm as you were in your arguments. Methinks you've overstepped again here, Kingslayer. ;-)

[Sakaea]

Well, I was gonna call her MiniApe, but Kingslayer is better.

 

@ Despo: I know. I just find it amusing/exasperating still, but what's a mafia game without having a FOS flung at you? :p

[Kathleen]

Checking in again. Sorry for disappearing yesterday, I went to get my daughter from school and got caught up with Family time for most of the night, with a few moments to jump on here, but I didn't really have time or brain power to get back to this game.

 

I'm trying to catch up now. I'm writing this up as I re read in another window so sorry if it comes out weird.

 

I'm all for No Lynches if the circumstances are right, but throwing them out early in the day, especially day one, seems like a dangerous move. I can see that it has caused dialog, differing reactions and opinions and talk this time, which is a good way to get info. This has been talked to death, so I'll not spend much time on it. Red said that if it comes to it a No Lynch over a rushed or random lynch is better, and I agree with that (like I said I think they are good in the right circumstance) but it was early day one, certainly not at a point where we had to worry about a rushed or random lynch. But Red has spent a good amount of time getting the game active, pressing buttons and getting reactions.

 

As for the whole anti-town back and forth stuff I think there may just be miss communication on the term. I think Des is looking at it from the litteral definition of "anti-town" meaning something that is detrimental to the town, where as Lanth is meaning "anti-town" as used in Mafia games meaning any player (or group of players) who are not town alligned. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is what I'm seeing. I think they are both making the point that both Town players and Non Town Players can make plays that benifit or hurt the town, and just because someone says something that benefits the town doesn't make that player town.

 

 

And I'm gonna be going again here soon, and I don't know if I'll get back on till tomorrow. For so many huge posts there really hasn't been much for me to comment on. Hopefully there will be some stuff to look back at in later days to glean insight from though.

[Niniel]

While i don't agree with a no lynch on day one, i see what Red did there.

 

Let's go for pressure on the next candidate.

 

VOTE BARM

 

Why Barm? Because he already have two votes or you have another reason?

[Barmacral]

While i don't agree with a no lynch on day one, i see what Red did there.

 

Let's go for pressure on the next candidate.

 

VOTE BARM

 

Why Barm? Because he already have two votes or you have another reason?

 

I assume because I had 2 votes (both of them professed to be "joke votes").

[Niniel]

I know you have two votes, one of them is mine. I just wonder why Ama voted you.

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote count:

 

Key (1) – Ishy

Verbal (1) – Lanth

Min (1) – Ed

Ishy (1) – Key

Barm (2) – Nolder, Tina

Vambram (1) – Leelou

Karas (1) – Kat

No lynch (1) – Red

Kat (1) – Karas

Red (5) – Barm, Hybrid, Des, Min, Verbal

 

Not voting – Vam, Hoof, Ama, Sakaea, Amega

 

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch. No deadline for day one yet.

 

 

why iz i voting for myself and No Lynch

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote count:

 

Verbal (1) – Lanth

Min (1) – Ed

Ishy (1) – Key

Barm (3) – Nolder, Tina, Amadine

Vambram (1) – Leelou

Karas (1) – Kat

Kat (1) – Karas

Red (4) – Barm, Hybrid, Minuet, Verbal

Hybrid (2) – Sakaea, Red

Lanth (1) - Des

 

Not voting – Vam, Hoof, Amega, Ishy

 

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch. No deadline for day one yet.

 

I'll be needing to replace Amegakure before I can set a deadline. He hasn't checked in yet.

[Leelou]

I do believe all the discussion about the NO LYNCH voting, town/anti-town plays went on a bit too long for only one vote. Clearly no one other then Red and possibly 12th showed any interest in voting that way. No lynches do have their time and place, I just do not agree with them on day 1.

 

I think in a game like this it would be good to get a couple of different trains going so we can gather some information for future days.

 

I personally do not feel Red is a good candidate up for lynch today, she just likes to stir the pot a bit too much.

 

For right now, I'm going unvote, vote Hybrid to start a train I more agree with.

[Minuet]

My vote is staying where it is for now. I will be honest, Red always seems scummy. One of the reasons why I will vote for her on day one is you never know if she means to help the town or not.

 

Eddie I am scum cause I didn't vote for you. How about when I think you are scum I will vote for you then.

[Vambram]

After careful consideration of the lengthy debates so far here on Day 1, I have decided that I shall VOTE Hybrid.

[John E. Kelley]

Vote Des.

 

An early attempt to start a Barm bandwagon by making the third vote on page 1 would be bad enough, but then your late vote on Red made it a little too obvious. It was plain that there was going to be plenty of us making fos's in her direction, and it was so easy as to be lazy to jump on a Red wagon. And her whole "No Lynch" vote is nowhere near scummy as far as I can tell, just something to kickstart the game and get some reads on our reactions, to which I say, Mission Accomplished Red.

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote count:

 

Verbal (1) – Lanth

Min (1) – Ed

Ishy (1) – Key

Barm (3) – Nolder, Tina, Amadine

Karas (1) – Kat

Kat (1) – Karas

Red (4) – Barm, Hybrid, Minuet, Verbal

Hybrid (4) – Sakaea, Red, Leelou, Vam

Lanth (1) – Des

Des (1) - Ishy

 

Not voting – Hoof, Amega

 

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch. No deadline for day one yet.

[Nolder]

I like these competing vote trains

 

more people need to pick a side

[Barmacral]

After careful consideration of the lengthy debates so far here on Day 1, I have decided that I shall VOTE Hybrid.

 

Please state your reasons.

[Barmacral]

Vote Des.

 

An early attempt to start a Barm bandwagon by making the third vote on page 1 would be bad enough, but then your late vote on Red made it a little too obvious. It was plain that there was going to be plenty of us making fos's in her direction, and it was so easy as to be lazy to jump on a Red wagon. And her whole "No Lynch" vote is nowhere near scummy as far as I can tell, just something to kickstart the game and get some reads on our reactions, to which I say, Mission Accomplished Red.

 

I quite agree with the Despothera vote, actually. When I was counting votes a while back he was a bandwagon vote both on me and on Red.

[hazelkrs1]

Vote Des.

 

An early attempt to start a Barm bandwagon by making the third vote on page 1 would be bad enough, but then your late vote on Red made it a little too obvious. It was plain that there was going to be plenty of us making fos's in her direction, and it was so easy as to be lazy to jump on a Red wagon. And her whole "No Lynch" vote is nowhere near scummy as far as I can tell, just something to kickstart the game and get some reads on our reactions, to which I say, Mission Accomplished Red.

 

How is it "lazy" for me to vote for someone I thought was pinging? Go back and read my posts and tell me again if you think the only reason I was voting for her was the whole no lynch thing. As a matter of fact while I disagreed with the play she made, I warned everyone we shouldn't try to policy lynch her for that. I voted for her because her behavior seemed scummy to me.

 

Barm, I voted for you cause I picked a number, and you happened to be lucky number 13, which I stated in my first post. I thought your reaction to the no lynch thing was sincere, so I knew my vote wasn't going to stay on you. So I switched it to the first person I did see exhibiting scummy behavior. Some pressure on Red got us some information, and while I don't really think she's scum now, it's a little strange to see so many people coming out of the woodwork to pat her on the back for kicking the game into gear. It's good to know that some people in this game think it's a good play to invite a lot of suspicion on yourself in order to "kick the game into gear".

[John E. Kelley]

Vote Des.

 

An early attempt to start a Barm bandwagon by making the third vote on page 1 would be bad enough, but then your late vote on Red made it a little too obvious. It was plain that there was going to be plenty of us making fos's in her direction, and it was so easy as to be lazy to jump on a Red wagon. And her whole "No Lynch" vote is nowhere near scummy as far as I can tell, just something to kickstart the game and get some reads on our reactions, to which I say, Mission Accomplished Red.

 

How is it "lazy" for me to vote for someone I thought was pinging? Go back and read my posts and tell me again if you think the only reason I was voting for her was the whole no lynch thing. As a matter of fact while I disagreed with the play she made, I warned everyone we shouldn't try to policy lynch her for that. I voted for her because her behavior seemed scummy to me.

 

Barm, I voted for you cause I picked a number, and you happened to be lucky number 13, which I stated in my first post. I thought your reaction to the no lynch thing was sincere, so I knew my vote wasn't going to stay on you. So I switched it to the first person I did see exhibiting scummy behavior. Some pressure on Red got us some information, and while I don't really think she's scum now, it's a little strange to see so many people coming out of the woodwork to pat her on the back for kicking the game into gear. It's good to know that some people in this game think it's a good play to invite a lot of suspicion on yourself in order to "kick the game into gear".

 

But to actually cast a vote on someone because they are "lucky number 13" when that is the third vote on them on D1 is really weak. If you are going to base your vote on someone due to the number they've drawn on the player list, that's one thing, but when it's the third vote on them D1, really scummy move there. That almost guarantees that a bandwagon is going to get started, and a joke vote, which is what that had to be, shouldn't get a bandwagon moving that soon. I don't deny that we'd like to get competing trains on D1 to get some reads on players, but I dislike getting the trains off joke votes. Make the joke votes, get some reads, and then make your cases after that. You seemed to want to skip a step there sir.

[John E. Kelley]

And just to clarify, the Red vote had some merit to it, I'll admit, but to completely disregard Red's case without giving her reasoning any credence, just screams you looking to start a lynch on anyone that gets active. So my FoS on you stands.