Towers of Midnight Speculation Thread (Spoilers for tGS)

[Terez]

Yes, that is well-established.

 

I blame Brandon, for refusing to confirm that Lanfear=Cyndane on tour.

[Anoxanmore]

I thought RJ confirmed it... you know in Winter's Heart lol :)

[Terez]

Yes, which is why it was totally silly for Brandon to pretend like it was still a mystery.  Thanks to him, we've got Dida's Lanfear≠Cyndane theory.

[Anoxanmore]

*shakes head*

 

We still get a few stragglers with the Taim/Demandred one too

[Terez]

I dunno if the two theories are even comparable.  Even Olver=Gaidal Cain makes more sense than Lanfear≠Cyndane.

[Anoxanmore]

I don't know about that...

[clu7ch]

i mean if we want to get crazy bela=creator is pretty hot and far fetched, but it has a sad and pathetic following...

 

I made a country on nationstates.com called cyndane lol.

[Dida]

Yes, that is well-established.

 

I blame Brandon, for refusing to confirm that Lanfear=Cyndane on tour.

 

Yes, gotcha love Brandon for being vague here  ;D

 

Brandon: ...let’s just say I have not said that Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person…

 

Matt: ...Oh, absolutely, I’m jumping to this other Forsaken that we are talking about…

 

  Which curiously fits with Mat's weighing of Lanfear's fate, if he finds her in the Tower of Ghenjei (tGS book).  Lanfear being alive in the Eelfinn's realm, would also likely fit a prophecy foretelled by one of Egwene Dreams:

 

Mat, weighing two Aes Sedai on a huge set of balance scales, and on his decision depended...She could not say what; something vast; the world, perhaps.

 

  Can't wait to learn, that the Cyndane = Lanfear theory was as incorrect as the Taim = Demandred theory... when Towers of Midnight is published.

[Anoxanmore]

Minus the exception that Lanfear is not Aes Sedai, which she says repeatedly in TGH.

 

::)

[Luckers]

You make an excellent point. It is indeed extra sad when you get called a Geek by the likes of me. Frankly you should be ashamed.

Oh I love you Luckers :)

 

I'd ask you to marry but if I didn't want to feel like cradle robbing ;)

 

You can rob my cradle any time *leers suggestively*.

 

Oh, and Dida, Cyndane is Lanfear. It was confirmed to me by the voice in my head. Sorry.

[Random Man]

 

 

Oh, and Dida, Cyndane is Lanfear. It was confirmed to me by the voice in my head. Sorry.

 

Yeah, and the voice in Cyndane's head, unless:

 

Cyndane was the name of a mouse that happened to wander into the Ter'angreal and got held by the promise of free grilled cheese until the two women we knew about entering crashed through, and the Finns decided Cyndane needed to pay for her cheese but didn't have a free body laying around to skin -- so they swapped the souls before killing Lanfear (now Cyndane) outside, so the DO transmigrated the wrong soul from a channeler's body, and Lanfear's a little mouse now. Oops.

[water_seeker]

Oh, and Dida, Cyndane is Lanfear. It was confirmed to me by the voice in my head. Sorry.

 

Impeccable logic as always.  :P

 

Dida once offered to post his full theory, along with the Valan Luca one I think, but I never saw his post.  Maybe I just missed it.

[Luckers]

Oh, and Dida, Cyndane is Lanfear. It was confirmed to me by the voice in my head. Sorry.

 

Impeccable logic as always.  :P

 

 

Oh, didn't you know I hear Brandon's voice in my head? The memory transfer is cool, but it just sucks when he seizes saidin away from me.

 

Dida once offered to post his full theory, along with the Valan Luca one I think, but I never saw his post.  Maybe I just missed it.

 

No! You fool!

[JakeBarnes]

  Can't wait to learn, that the Cyndane = Lanfear theory was as incorrect as the Taim = Demandred theory... when Towers of Midnight is published.

 

 

Because of this damned retarded Lanfear/Cyndane crap, everyone laughs at the Valan Luca theory.  :'(

 

I'll stand vindicated when Noal reveals himself to be under Compulsion or a DF and murders Talmanes.  8)

[Owayn The Traveller]

Noalie is going to the tower with Mat. And Olver will step in and save the day when Noal's complusion take hold and causing him to do something.

 

By the way Valan Luca is Demandred and Sammael is alive and well and posing as Logain.

[Dida]

Because of this damned retarded Lanfear/Cyndane crap' date=' everyone laughs at the Valan Luca theory. [/quote']

 

  Yes, they are two different theories altogether. 

 

#1 - Valan Luca going as the 3rd man, while Noal is not going.  Luca is the man to juggle fire in the Tower of Ghenjei. Valan Luca is a Hero.  Noal is a pawn of Ishamael/Moridin. Noal suggested Mat & Thom go to the 'Shadow Coast' to look for the ToG.  ::)  Come meet your new neighbors, armies of Trollocs.... 

 

 

#2 - Lanfear is Lanfear, and Cyndane is Cyndane hypotheses: avoids all the intellectual creations & assumptions dealing with Cyndane's saidar strength and bizarre behavior, which Theoryland's many factions have to argue about for ages. And shifts the battleground of uncertainty to Moridin's use of Fear, Pain, Compulsion to manipulate an unknown female channeler to attempt to "act" as Lanfear would, for strategic purposes.   

 

  Here's the current mess of theories about Lanfear, according to Theoryland's individuals...

  Lanfear to Cyndane: What happened?

  What Happened to Lanfear/Cyndane?

 

  Though there is one Lanfear theory, which Tamyrlin (Matt) & I do find favorable:

 

  Lanfear is key to defeating the DO: "We believe that Lanfear will play a key role in sealing the Bore."

 

 

 

Oh, and Dida, Cyndane is Lanfear. It was confirmed to me by the voice in my head. Sorry.

 

  A voice created in your mind by Moridin, no less?  :-X

 

  That's theory only received a 5.8 rating out of 10 at Theoryland, go figure. Or another variant received a 6.5 out of 10 rating.  Not exactly earthshaking ratings, if one puts salt into that stuff. :P  :D   

 

   

 

Dida once offered to post his full theory' date=' along with the Valan Luca one I think, but I never saw his post.  Maybe I just missed it.[/quote']

 

    I've posted almost all of my Valan Luca theory over time, but it was not within its own separate thread.  That can be remedied, shortly if you'd like. 

 

   

[Anoxanmore]

OH GOD NOES THE EYES ZEE GOOGLES THEY DO ZNOTHINGZ

[JakeBarnes]

   I've posted almost all of my Valan Luca theory over time, but it was not within its own separate thread.  That can be remedied, shortly if you'd like.    

 

Please Do.  I haven't got the time or the effort to do it myself.  

[DemandredFO]

Dida, what I've read of the pieces of the Valan theory, it's at least plausible but no one including me will pay attention to it if you keep ignoring Cyndane's POV at the cleansing.

[Tigraine]

ANOX!!!  How have you been darling?  :-*

[clu7ch]

Just fine, thanks for asking!!

 

oh...right you meant her...not me...

[Shard]

 

 

#2 - Lanfear is Lanfear, and Cyndane is Cyndane hypotheses: avoids all the intellectual creations & assumptions dealing with Cyndane's saidar strength and bizarre behavior, which Theoryland's many factions have to argue about for ages. And shifts the battleground of uncertainty to Moridin's use of Fear, Pain, Compulsion to manipulate an unknown female channeler to attempt to "act" as Lanfear would, for strategic purposes.     

 

 

Yeah that would be great if Cyndane actually ever went up to Rand and tried to pretend in being Lanfear that would be a great Strategy, only she doesn't. She doesn't even say these things out loud she thinks them to herself. Why in the heck would Moridin want a Lanfear clone that WASN'T Lanfear? It'd be much easier and probably smarter to just raise some new Forsaken at this point in the game.

 

Frankly I think Moridin and the DO do NOT want Lanfear going on Pyscho Love Nut for Rand since she did make the proclaimation that he and her could defy both the DO and Creator. I am CERTAIN the DO got wind of that little conversation. When Lanfear goes off about Lews/Rand she is a loose cannon, she blew her chance to bring Rand over in that way and they wouldn't want to waste time and effort trying it again.

[AcuWill]

 

 

#2 - Lanfear is Lanfear, and Cyndane is Cyndane hypotheses: avoids all the intellectual creations & assumptions dealing with Cyndane's saidar strength and bizarre behavior, which Theoryland's many factions have to argue about for ages. And shifts the battleground of uncertainty to Moridin's use of Fear, Pain, Compulsion to manipulate an unknown female channeler to attempt to "act" as Lanfear would, for strategic purposes.     

 

 

Yeah that would be great if Cyndane actually ever went up to Rand and tried to pretend in being Lanfear that would be a great Strategy, only she doesn't. She doesn't even say these things out loud she thinks them to herself. Why in the heck would Moridin want a Lanfear clone that WASN'T Lanfear? It'd be much easier and probably smarter to just raise some new Forsaken at this point in the game.

 

Frankly I think Moridin and the DO do NOT want Lanfear going on Pyscho Love Nut for Rand since she did make the proclaimation that he and her could defy both the DO and Creator. I am CERTAIN the DO got wind of that little conversation. When Lanfear goes off about Lews/Rand she is a loose cannon, she blew her chance to bring Rand over in that way and they wouldn't want to waste time and effort trying it again.

 

Moridin has the "forget the name of the device around his neck) with which he has absolute control over Cyndane/Lanfear.  He has nothing to worry about her with that regard, and everything to gain.

[Shard]

You know what your right AcuWill and in fact proves my point even more, why create a Loose Canon?

[csarmi]

It'd be much easier and probably smarter to just raise some new Forsaken at this point in the game.

 

It'd be much easier and smarter to ignore his so called theories instead, this way you're proving they're worth bothering with. Threads and threads get filled with nonsense and turn unreadable and you are not helping his state either.