Dragon21 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 So who would end up as the tournament champion between all these guys? *of course assume Ingtar would be alive to fight in it :)* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaidar Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Assuming no ranged weapons, it will be a rumble between Lan and Rhuarc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I say Mat, he's got Luck on his side. He beat two swordsman with his staff and he was sick at the time he did so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest durram laddel cham Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 guess lan he's like the greatest swordman at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstrike Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I vote Perrin. If Lan or Rhuarc had been 15 years younger or if Perrin hadn't had as much battle experience or if Perrin hadn't had that wolfkin thing, then my vote might have been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemandredFO Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Gotta be Mat, the perverbial farmer with the quarterstaff. Of course there can't be any channeling, even Mat couldn't survive lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoulderthumper Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I would go with Mat as well. His luck, the thousands of years of memories from great military men combined with his natural quickness make him my pick. Plus if we are putting money on it, how could you not bet on the gambler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majsju Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Just out of sickbed, barely able to walk any longer distance, Mat took out Galad and Gawyn just from his own skills (fast hands and much practice with a quarterstaff). Since then, he has a lot more experience from battles, even if you're not counting the hundreds, maybe thousands of fights he remembers thanks to the finns. I'd put my money on him, even without the memories from the finns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorum Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 colloseum is just, simple, man-on-man, hand-to-hand battle. No commanding an army So, who'll win? Rhuarc of course!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldar Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Mat. I can't see how anyone could beat him if he has his quarterstaff and daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmis Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 It's between Lan, Rhuarc and Mat. I'd go with Mat due to his luck, on pure skill though I'm thinking Lan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrell Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Mat - he's super lucky, he's got alot of combat behind him (both real and from his other memories) and he's a staff master. He was barely able to stand up when he beat Gawyn and Galad both at once with a staff, and neither of them were exactly crap. I know why people are going for Lan, but consider, the greatest blademaster of all time lost only one bout in his lifetime - to a farmer with a staff ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakand_01 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Rhuarc. I remember a quote somewhere that said something along the lines of 'an unarmed Aiel is still more dangerous than a man with a sword' or something like that. When you're used to fighting other Aiel who similarly dont always use their weapons first, you've gotta hold the upper hand against men who go for the steel before even thinking of fighting with hands and feet. Although Lan and Mat would likely comprise the last 3 with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorum Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Why iqn't Rand in the list? He'ld just balefire them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertAlexWillis Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I imagine Rand isn't on the list because he would just balefire them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon21 Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 Exactly why he isn't in the list. ;D (no channeling) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboZ Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Rand would get his ass kicked by Rhuarc or Lan without channeling. I would have to say though that Lan and Rhuarc and maybe Perrin would survive to the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyring Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Pure melee. I´d rank Mat on top. Lan is close. Rhuarc is propably close( we really havent seen that much of him in terms of fighting). Rand before loosing his hand along with perrin would be just below Lan/rhuarc. When choosing between Mat and Lan, i´d think theyr rather equal, however: Lan now is better then Lan when he was young(aka, new spring), but hes not better speed etc, hes better due to experience and training. Pure physically hes propably less good now then in new spring. Here, Mat is almost cheating, He is physically in his prime years, but he got 10 or so(seems like a decent gues that;) times the fights behind him that Lan does. Thats what makes it imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungKing Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Mat would easily win this fight, not even so much due to his luck, he's just that good, especially from all the memories. Lan and Rhuarc would be tied for second. I can't believe people would even say Perrin... I'd take Ingtar over him. YK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cillian Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Thats tough actually, top 3 Mat, Lan and Rhuarc for sure. Mat would probaly beat Lan but only just (Lan's experienced enough not to underestimate a quarterstaff). I think Mat would have alot of trouble with Rhuarc since he(Rhuarc) doesn't actually use a sword (duh). Mat again, but I suppose it could go either way. Lan v Rhuarc, I think would be about even, and thats a fight I'd like to see. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippinaces Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 8th- Tam 7th- Ingtar 6th- Gawyn 5th- Perrin 4th- Lan 3rd- Rhuarc 2nd- Galad 1st- Mat this is the most likely order i could come up with when i considered the question not from who's likeliest to win, but who's likeliest to lose first. Tam wasn't bad, but no combat in 20ish years makes you kind of rusty. Ingtar gets the edge over Tam for recent combat experience, and no other reason Gawyn and Galad are almost equal in skill, and still have 3 people seperating them on the list, which should attest to how equal the final 6 are. this is for arena combat. if it was a fight to the death, Lan and Mat would fight forever with no winner and the other 6 would be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leebarr Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 That is hard to say. It would come down to Mat, Lan, and the Aiel clan chief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldar Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 That is hard to say. It would come down to Mat, Lan, and the Aiel clan chief I'm not really sure how good Gawyn has become. I'd venture to guess it would come down to Lan and Matt, and then Matt would get lucky and trip, skewering Lan accidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidarr Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 My money is on Mat, of all the characters in the books he is the one that we have seen in fights most often. Lets see, killed Couldin who must have been pretty good if not as good as Rhuarc, he has faced off against a gholom not once but twice now, even with out his spear he is able to take out a dozen people with swords by him self with just his knives as seen in KoD Ch 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertAlexWillis Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Just as a note ... Perrin would lose to anyone of the people named in a one-on-one duel. Whether he was using his axe or his hammer, he would be far slower than any of them. He was losing to Aram before he pulled his ta'veren trip and got Aram shot. Perrin is not a dueler. His choice of weapons and style of fighting are suited to full-scale battle, where sheer power is of greater use. If I had to rank them, I'd go like this, from worst to best: Perrin Ingtar Tam, Gawyn, Galad, Rhuarc, all on basically the same level. Lan and Mat, slightly above the rest. Mat would beat Lan, because of his luck and ta'veren-ness. Without those, I think it would probably end in a draw, as in, both of them dead. Mat might be slightly faster, but Lan is tougher ... he'll keep fighting after he's taken enough damage to kill two lesser men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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