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Majsju

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  1. RJ retconned Alrics death, saying that he did not die immidiatly, so Siuan did not notice anything. As for using inverted weaves, surely someone would have noticed that someone was using a weave that noone in the room could even see. Sounds more like RJ made a mistake. The main reason to suspect Danelle of being up to no good (and later when RJ mentioned we had seen Mesaana, make that connection which at least some here did quite early :) ) is her involvment with the masons. And in a longer perspective, her being a key player in the coup, only to fade away onto obscurity quite soon after.
  2. The way you worded this, you make it sound like the Dragon kneeling prophecy is in the Essanik cycle. It isn't. It's in the Seanchan version of the Karaethon Cycle. We don't have any evidence within the books that the Essanik Cycle has been tampered with. Our evidence that the Karaethon Cycle has been tampered with is that one or more of its' prophecies is different than the Randland version. (Namely the one you mentioned about binding the nine moons vs. Rand kneeling). I could have phrased it better, true. But, the key point remains - We can not with the information available know with absolute certainity what has been changed. And that goes for both prophecies.
  3. The Essanik cycle is unique for the Seanchan, as it is made from Damane Foretellings. Parts of it are corrupted, but we do not know which parts. I am one of those who elieves the part about Rand kneeling to Tuon is something ishy changed, but there is no way of knowing for certain. Especially since even if that part is fake, it can still happen, if Tuon insists, and Rand decides he needs the Seanchan enough. Aside from the Essanik Cycle, the Seanchan also has a version of the Karaethon Cycle. No way of knowing how much that one differs from the original, Ishamael might have been playing around with that one as well. And of course, Luthair brought it to Seanchan 1000 years ago, and time changing facts is a fairly big theme in the books... The full prophecies are not available anywhere. Simply because RJ did not write the full prophecies, he wrote what he needed. So what is available are the bits we can find in the books.
  4. They don't have internet, so they have very few people who disagree for the sake of disagreeing. :)
  5. Mat has spent a fairly large part of the books trying to avoid that kind of action. How has that turned out for him? :)
  6. Tuon is their empress now, not just the empress of the return. Provide me a quote that says otherwise. @Maj - Okay I forgot about Seanchan already being at war, my bad. But to say Fain hasn't thought about Mat is not accurate. He has thought about all 3 ta'veren, just that he has mostly been focused on Rand. I mean, when Rand was out of his reach at the time, he jumped with the whitecloaks to the TR, killed all but one of the Aybaras, and captured all the Cauthons. That hardly suggests he had forgotten about either of them, they are just not at the top of his list. But what about after Rand dies(If he indeed doesn't survive at the end)? Also remember he is not a dumb man. Crazy? Indeed. But not stupid. So maybe he runs off to Seanchan and takes a side of the civil war, and that side will be all against the empress while the other side might accept her back and all that. He could continue feeding that side he chose making it nearly impossible to come to a peaceful resolution and half of Seanchan's population will be potentially wiped out. So what if he has to wait ten years? In many stories villains have bide their time in plots of revenge. And in this series too. There are stories about kings who's wives, brothers, or servants served them faithfully for decades, but plotting to betray them all the while. And Fain has shown he can be patient when he wants to be. You can not eat the cookie and save it at the same time. Either Fain has Mat and Perrin on his Must-kill-before-lunch list, or he does not. If he does still consider them important to kill, why run off to the other side of the world, where the chance of getting the opportunity to, you know, actually kill any of them is extremely small? And if he does not consider them important to kill anymore, what are the odds of him not only making it all the wat to seanchan, but reaching a position high enough to be a key player after a while? The fain we saw last time would not exactly function in a normal society, he is too far gone.
  7. How do ya think? There needs to be someone to pose a threat to their plans. Someone to sew seeds of discord into their ranks. Who better than Fain/Mordeth? Seanchan has been all about leashing channelers for ages, then all of a sudden their new empress comes back possibly with marath'damane Aes Sedai at her side, not all of them, perhaps very few of them, will accept this right away and some who want to hold on to the old ways will be against it, but not wholly ready to rebel against their empress. Fain could be just the push they need, poisoning their minds and such, to send them into a full on civil war. Remember he hate Mat as well, so this would be an opportunity to both kill Mat and gain power for himself as well. There is a civil war in Seanchan right now, it started when Semirhage killed every single member of the royal family except Tuon. Mat and Tuon would have had to deal with the fallout from all that business. Also, the outriggers would take place ten years after AMOL. Would fain just hide in a cave somewhere waiting for an opportunity to to come up with an extremely complivated plot to kill someone he has barely thought of throughout the series? Aside from being horrible storytelling, it would mean changing fains character so much it would not be fain anymore anyway.
  8. The outriggers were supposed to be about Mat and Tuon going back to Seanchan. Not really any place, much less need for Fain there.
  9. My favourite theory is that Gitara just had to get rid of Luc before she could send Tigraine to the waste. Otherwise, had Luc been around, he would have followed Tigraine and brought her back, meaning Rand never gets born. Pretty huge impact on TG...
  10. He channelled on Spray, swinging the boom to knock a trolloc off the boat. The reaction comes four days later. Rands channeling and reactions in TEOTW: Restoring Bela - Going crazy in Baerlon Swinging a boom on Spray - His incident on the same boat Lightning to get away from darkfriends - Rand gets sick shortly after TEOTW - Rand gets sick almost immidiatly.
  11. Partial does not count, and next total eclipse here is in 2126 :)
  12. Randlanders must have experienced solar eclipses before; they're fairly common occurrences, occurring 2-5 times a year throughout the world, total and partial. Total ones are rather less common, at about once every 18 months somewhere in the world; here in the UK we saw two such last century, 1927 and 1999. (I missed the latter because of cloud - Grrrrr!!) So a simple eclipse probably wouldn't worry anyone. However, they tend to be short. Totality never exceeds 7.5 minutes, so if the darkness went on for longer than that it would be a bit alarming! And usually when an eclipse happens in our world, there is no need to worry about an evil god being behind it, as a prologue to destroying the world. Of course, because of those pesky mayans, I would probably have freaked out just a little had there been an eclipse here this year, but that is a different story.... :)
  13. Nyn and Moiraine are simply the two available female channelers Rand trusts the most. He probably trusts Avi and Elayne just as much, and a case could be made for Egwene as well, but all of them are quite distracted by other stuff. Wheras Nyn and Moiraine both has are fully dedicated to see Rand succeed. And there is of course the amusing aspect of the relationship between Nynaeve and Moiraine - Nyn initially being all about getting revenge on Moiraine, and now they will stand side by side.
  14. I would not care one bit if Matt died. Mat on the other hand, that would be a different case...
  15. I kinda like King. Many of his books are based on a really good idea, and he is quite good at building tension so the reader is kept a bit worried for the characters. My main problem with his books is that he writes too fast. Many books have chunks that are quite sloppy, the editing could be a lot better in most of them. that said, there are no books I flat out dislike (though I have not read much of his new books since the mid 90s), there are very few I like so much I go back and reread them. Most books fall in the category inbetween, I enjoyed them, had a good read, but will not pick them up again.
  16. Harriet owns the nots, and she seems extremely determined to not allow anything that in her view would go against RJs wishes. I would not be surprised if she went so far as to destroy all notes once she has finished the encyclopedia (but more likely she will lock them away somewhere onle she has acess to). Keep in mind that Harriet is perhaps the strongest opponent to have the outriggers and the remaining prequels being written, books RJ had actually planned to write. So i am not very worried she would allow someone doing a Herbert with the notes.
  17. Min, Avi and Elayne has a huge advantage with their bond to Rand. no matter what happens, they will know if he is alive and (fairly) well. And Rand gets the same benefit, though for him it can also become a huge disadvantage if any of the women dies. Same goes for Nyn and Lan. (I could add Egwene, Siuan and Moiraine to that list, but as they are bonded to people not on the list, I chose to interpret this hypothetical situation as they have a much higher risk of feeling the bond snap. Especially Egwene, who is bonded to a complete moron who would get himself killed within the hour if she was captured).
  18. I have always found the idea that the ring of tamyrlin would be this other superstrong sa'angreal quite absurd. Because Why would an object that is the symbol for an office that can be held by two genders at the same time be an object that can only be used by one of those? If there indeed was anything special about this ring, at the most it should have been a ter'angreal that could be used by both men and women.
  19. Wasn't this referring to the incident where Lanfear teleports Rand, Loial, and Hurin to the mirror world via the portal stone? That is how he went off Fain's radar (I think). That particular incident, yes. But as we see in this quote, Rand had started to vanish when he was in Fal Dara. I have no evidence to back this up, but my gut tells me Rands "vanishing" happens when he uses the flame and the void. Channeling can be rules out, as he has not started to channel other than by accident yet, but he uses the flame whenever he spars with Lan.
  20. I found that interesting as well. Almost as if the act of creating something helped push the DO's effect back to some extent. "Belief and order give strength"? Hands off, that is my old theory! Granted, i kinda hit the wall with it when I tried to incorporate Leyas comment in TDR, "It is with the strength of our belief that we fight the Shadow". A very typical tinker-thing to say, but how to make it work together with the rest (since we know there has to be an awful lot of violence during TG).
  21. Britney Spears 'crazy' is like totally Rand pre-VOG.
  22. Far as I know, there are no hints to why they have their special standing, just that they have one. But I think it would be a very good guess that them not suffering from the Longing at least plays a part, since that means they can interact with the Seanchan society much easier than the Randland ogier. For example, serving as Gardeners for long periods. There is also the possibility that Luthair played a part here. We know that the Ogier are very respected in Randland, at least by the people who know who the Ogier are. Could have been Luthair bringing this attitude to the Seanchan, And with no longing to hinder their interactions, and the Seanchan turning into one unified empire, it is simply taking that respect further. You should have thought of this a week earlier or so, and maybe someone could have asked it during JordanCon.
  23. Not only does Avi have the talent to read Ter'angreal but she also has the talent to read weave residues and recreate them, sometimes days after, that's why Elayne did what she did. They couldn't take the chance that one of the damane chasing them also had such a talent. Picking the weave apart leaves no residue. Without that talent, you need to see the actual weaving to learn it. Give Elayne's PoV in tPoD chapter 2 a quick scan. It's reasonable to assume that none of Joline, Teslyn or Edesina have that talent and that Verin wove the gateway outside of their viewing. Thanks for the clarification. And that now means that Verin refused to teach the 3 AS how to Travel. Seeing that lost talent, they would have begged Verin to teach them; but she refused! Interesting. When that happened, the split in the WT was still going on. And while Verin never declared herself supporting one side or the other, her hanging out with Rand definitly put her as Not on Elaidas side. Which Joline and Teslyn were. That would have given her a legitimate reason to refuse teaching them. And her being Black might have forced her to do everything in her power to avoid spreading the knowledge of such a weave.
  24. It is rather a reference to the very special position Ogier holds in the Seanchan society.
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