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  1. I will admit that I find this thread more than a little bizarre. (I have never followed the Luckers vs. Ahlstrom saga so I have no dog in this fight). As I see it, yes, some characters were poorly written by BS. This far overshadowed any problems in continuity which all but the most dedicated fans will miss anyway. But for all that the ending trilogy is still an order of magnitude better than PoD-CoT. Regrettably but undeniably the series was fast spiraling into a skirt-twitching swamp under late RJ and its rescue is in large part thanks to BS, even if he did have to cut a lot of corners in the process. But by then I don't think even RJ could have fluently and elegantly untangled the mess he'd created.
  2. I am going to try to read it slowly and savor it. (Try being the operative word here).
  3. Mat should have been with Elayne - that would have been epic. I see no good reason for Rand's bizarre polygamy. Just Aviendha would have been good enough. As I don't like Faile, I'd have also been quite happy to see Perrin with Berelain. A lesbian pairing wouldn't hurt... Siuan and Moiraine striking up their old romance anew?
  4. "The forsaken think that it is impossible as evidenced by Moridin's reaction when he sees Avi do it." Good point, forgot about that. Still, there's always good old fashioned fires and earthquakes. :)
  5. ^ Yep, and a bonus is that everyone will blame the Aes Sedai! Win win!!! Or why not do that gateway unraveling/explosion thing. Get the Forsaken together, have them open up a gateway in a block, start unraveling it, Travel away, BOOM!, rinse and repeat block by block in a systemic fashion until the entire thing is leveled. Power expenditure is pretty modest too. Someone like Demandred would be able to rinse a city like Caemlyn off the face of the earth in an hour or so. That's without angreal, without circles. Even if there's Aes Sedai they will not be able to detect Demandred channeling anyway (and if they did... well, what is one Elaida going to do with Demandred??).
  6. @TGlems, I agree completely. I unwittingly raised the exact same issue in Lummox's thread on Missed Opportunities.
  7. @Yosarian, That is why Traveling is so ridiculously overpowered. Fact is, a few of the Forsaken with a few angreal and some BA sisters to bump them up to the Magical Thirteen ARE more powerful than the entirety of a WT or Wise Ones who do not have Traveling. We're not speaking of frontal assaults BTW. Just Mongol like strike-and-retreat's against population centers that will transform the entirety of Randland into a barbarian, decivilized wasteland within a couple of months. As regards destroying the world, they have immortality anyway. They will be able to rebuild. Slaves can be bred from human survivors. Etc.
  8. Agree in general, disagree on details, WHL (though my guess is as good as yours). My bet is on a Rand/Moridin merge on the Isam/Luc model, in which one does live and one does die. Moridin is the one who lives in Rand's body, does all kinds of horrible things, and serves as the host for the DO's materialization on Earth (which consumes him); or gets killed by Fain, or Alivia. Have no idea. Anyhow, Rand goes to TAR. The Shadow there will be hunting him for him, but Perrin, Egwene, and some others come to save him. Nynaeve rips him out (thus healing death) like Moggy did, and returning to Earth he will bring back hope, a memory of light, etc, etc.
  9. Wool-headed lummox, I agree completely. In the most general sense, the "lord of chaos" strategy is a dud. Yes, with a lot of tinkering you can get people to be at each other's throats, but these can be consistently reversed all the time (e.g. Egwene united the WT; Galad consolidates the Whitecloaks; Elayne sorts out Andor). What's more as soon as the Trolloc hordes start pouring south pretty much every Lightsider will band together anyway. It's a self-defeating strategy. What would I have done in Ishy's/Moridin's place? (1) Ordered them to gather up the angreal and sa'angreal. The WT might have been hard to break into (but who am I kidding... almost a quarter of them are Black Ajah anyway, it would be a piece of cake). The Tear stocks have no guardians at all. Then have them Travel from city to city leveling the place. If they are all linked with some BA members making up thirteen, and with the help of angreal and sa'angreal, pretty much the entirety of Randland urban civilization can be wiped out in as little as one day. (That is why I said the OP is implausibly overpowered in the other thread). (2) Converted everybody in the WT to the Dark Side. How? Easy. Get BA task forces, abduct sisters one by one to the Blight for 13x13, bring them back to WT. By the time the AS realize they are screwed they will be screwed. As per how Lummox describes. (3) No urban settlements remain. After a week of concerted Forsaken strikes, all the Blight fortresses are reduced. There is no leadership. With a BA-controlled WT not to mention the other Dreadlords, Forsaken with angreal/sa'angreal, tons of Trollocs, it's all over. Simple and brutal but effective. That is more than anything why the excessive politicking of WoT makes me yawn; it would all be redundant were the bad guys plausible i.e. had more than 2 working neurons between the lot of them.
  10. I'd rather read all about this in due time when the book gets released? ;)
  11. That is indeed a massive post on Ares' part. There is no hope I will be able to address them in any detail until the next weekend, but I will answer a couple of points: Let's not start throwing emotive terms around. Succinctness is a virtue that every editor appreciates. Brevity is the soul of wit. Etc, etc. Who says there must be a novel? It could be done in the shadows, with only the barest of hints until the dramatic denouement in the epilogue of the penultimate book: Demandred addressing his massed Sharan followers, proclaiming himself the true Dragon and calling for the destruction of the imposter Darkfriend Dragon in the west. (Although after the series is ended Demandred's adventures to become the Dark Dragon could plausibly be made into a book. I'd buy it.). My proposed changes are solutions to what I see as underlying problems. I also think you're taking all this a bit too seriously. I am imagining what the ideal series (IMHO!) could have looked like with the basic world, metaphysics, and characters of Randland as unveiled by RJ. What's written has been written, what's done is done; it is no consequence for the obvious reason that even if anyone bothered following through on my suggestions (why would they???) it wouldn't get past TOR's copyright lawyers. One thing that I do want to set clear straight away, however: No, I'm not. I only read Game of Thrones, and did not feel compelled to read any further. Oh I might eventually, especially if we get confirmation that GRRM isn't suffering from a case of terminal writer's block, but I don't see myself starting an account on an ASoIaF fan site. Good to see Wool-headed lummox agreeing, thanks. I also agree with your tenth suggestion. If we're going to have prophecies at least have two or three or at most five really big ones, not a few cropping up every book which just devalues them in general. Also good to see that even many people who disagree with my proposed changes do like the Demandred in Shara idea.
  12. BTW, to answer the OP question, I will be continuing with Sanderson's Stormlight Archive and any further Mistborn universe books. I read Game of Thrones, but hesitate to delve further into GRRM's world - what if his infamous writing block prevents him from ever finishing the series? Perhaps in 5 years or so, when the future of ASoIaF will be clearer. Thanks all for the post-apocalyptic suggestions. I did not like the first Dark Tower book, but I heard it improves a lot later, so I might download the second book and continue with it. The Emberverse concept sounds really interesting so I've already bought Dies the Fire for Kindle just a few minutes ago - thanks for that suggestion! BenevolentCow, you're probably right about Obernewtyn Chronicles.
  13. I can see Moridin turning for philosophical reasons. For Hessalem and Cyndane it is currently unrealistic (Moridin has their cour'souvra). Moggy and Demandred might do it for mercenary self-preservation reasons as soon as they figure out what is self-evident to both Moridin and every non-Darkfriend in Randland. But really we have to bear in mind that the last three books were initially planned as one ginormous book. Bearing that in mind I half suspect that AMoL in reality referred to Veins of Gold, and has already happened.
  14. Don't get me wrong, I still think it's a great fantasy series. (Why would I have an account here otherwise?) Nonetheless, looking back a decade, when I first encountered the WoT, I feel that it has been a gigantic missed opportunity. What I felt could have been the second greatest fantasy series after LotR after reading the first three or four books now barely stands out against other prominent series in the field. If anything, I think even a series like Mistborn was better planned and written (if not to anywhere near the same depth) as the WoT. How would I rewrite it? (if I had the technical proficiency to do that, which I don't). (1) Cap it at 7 books. As everyone but RJ's most dedicated fans acknowledge it, the books began spinning wildly out of control by ACoS, if not FoH. Too many insignificant plot threads were started. The end result was that many of them had to be brutally and inelegantly cut out starting from KoD. For instance, there began a very intricate plot revolving around unmasking of the Black Ajah pursued by the White Tower hunters and lasting several books... only for Verin to pop out completely out of the blue and present Egwene with the full list. (2) Speaking of deus ex machina, nuke the ta'veren concept from orbit! (3) Kill more characters. This is another oft made complaint, people just don't die. I don't mean it has to be a GRRM-style bloodbath, but there has to be some kind of balance between the two. Both Brandon Sanderson and JK Rowling, for instance, pull it off nicely. There is absolutely no good reason for Morgase for example to have survived, let alone start up a romance with Talenvor! (4) Many will consider this controversial, but I would relegate Perrin to a minor character, and have Egwene be part of the Big Trio. She is a Dreamwalker and as such could have served many of the same functions as Perrin. (5) Needless to say, get rid of Faile. Get rid of the Windfinders. Get rid of Caemlyn politics. Get rid of Rand's ridiculous harem - leave him with Aviendha, and have Mat fall in love with Elayne (wouldn't that be hilarious to read?). Min can stay, she could even hook up with Perrin on the side. In short get rid of all the annoying things. (6) The One Power is over-Powered. Seriously so. A single AS-strength channeler can destroy hundreds of soldiers in a battle, someone of Forsaken strength can wipe out entire armies. A group of channelers destroys a 100,000-strong Trolloc horde in a matter of minutes. Frequently this makes armies, blademasters, etc. redundant. A little moments thought will present a huge variety of other objections. Any Forsaken can simply Travel from city to city, wiping it from the surface of the Earth, and in the process creating far, far more chaos than they could possibly make merely by the political intrigues that they actually engage in. Rand and his companians on the other hand could travel near to Shayol Ghul, open a gateway connecting Thakandar to the bottom of the sea, and watch the whole place get flooded into oblivion (granted it would probably create some nasty sea monster critters but that's surely better than being threatened with Trolloc hordes). It should be (1) weaker; (2) there should be costs to using it, as with the True Power; and (3) it should be less reliable, e.g. only functions well at certain times or places, or requires to be stored up prior to usage. Ironically Brandon Sanderson could have greatly helped RJ with this. (7) Speaking of which, ban Traveling. That is the most over-Powered power of them all. (8) Baddies are pathetic, implausible, and have no depth. Rand is killing Trollocs for breakfast (heavily armored men the size of bears... right) as early as the middle of TGH. They very quickly lose the sense of dread they initially evoked. T This applies tenfold to the Forsaken, who as everyone has noticed are bumbling and incompetent to a degree that far exceeds any attempt to explain their failures by referencing their contempt for Third Age people. In particular, two of them (!) are killed in the very first book. This severely damages their dark mystique, and the further death of Be'lal and Ishamael, and the capture of Moggy in TSR, finishes off whatever remained of it. They should be endboss type characters. Also their numbers should be reduced to 7 or even 5 (say, Ishamael, Demandred, Lanfear, Semirhage, Moggy; and maybe Aginor and Graendal) so that their individual characters can be developed more thoroughly, instead of having many of them serve as higher ranked cannon fodder. The final problem with them is that they have no depth and I find the reasons Darkfriends and the Forsaken give for going over to the DO to be very implausible in the main. This is another area that could have done with much more development and explanation. (9) Shara is such a formidable superpower (it carries out eugenic breeding of channelers!!) that it is bizarre that no Forsaken has tried to influence it, while only one was allocated to the Seanchan. Instead they all go for relatively puny nations like Tear, Illian, or even Murandy (if some theories about Demandred are correct). Either I would remove Shara/Seanchan entirely; make them massively weaker; or actively involve them in the plot. One really cool thing that RJ could have done if he'd spent less time describing skirt twitching and whatnot is having Demandred seize control of Shara by fulfilling THEIR prophecies of the Dragon, which have been falsified just as with the Seanchan. That would have been very appropriate - a Dark Dragon, at last a match for LTT, pouring over the Cliffs of Dawn in the last book with his armies and specially bred channelers, just as the Trollocs strike from the north. This is all I can think of for now but there's surely more. Discuss and feel free to add.
  15. Does anyone know of good post-apocalyptic fiction that is (1) not ridiculously corny / cliched as most of it is regrettably and (2) is a series?
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