90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Ithillian Turambar]

10 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

Sorry... Didn't know that was supposed to be funny. I was offering alternative explanations in addition to yours, which is plausible. We'll have to wait for Derf to confirm.

Freaking lawyer. I'm wasted here lol

[Ironeyes]

We're not known for having excellent senses of humor. 

 

Mine is an implant. Had the surgery done when I was 12 with a donor organ that came from a German fellow. The anti-rejection pills taste like saurkraut. 

[Zander?]

WTF is this conversation lololololol 

[Zander?]

Wait a Lawyer replaced Turin.....makes sense both Wolfy SOABs LOLOLOLOLOL 

[Ironeyes]

4 minutes ago, Zander? said:

Wait a Lawyer replaced Turin.....makes sense both Wolfy SOABs LOLOLOLOLOL 

You missed Day 1. I graduate from law school next month and take the Bar exam in July. ABA rules require me to inform you that I am not a lawyer and can't represent myself as one until after passing the Bar. 

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count

 

Not Voting
Ithi, Dice, Marsh2, Nyn, DPR, Verb, Zander, Key, Tig, Heavy

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Countodwn to EOD

Edited April 26 by Darthe

[Ithillian Turambar]

Well I was trying to point out that Dice's rememberings about Eddie's garbage list were not correct.

 

And I was wondering why he would put out incorrect information.

 

But then I got sidetracked by possible things that Darthe did or did not do.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Also I just saw it's 3am here. I'm gonna go bed or I'll be a terror again tomorrow.

[dicetosser1]

12 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Well I was trying to point out that Dice's rememberings about Eddie's garbage list were not correct.

 

And I was wondering why he would put out incorrect information.

 

But then I got sidetracked by possible things that Darthe did or did not do.

I DID say I was going off memory

 

what did I get wrong?

[Zander?]

16 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

You missed Day 1. I graduate from law school next month and take the Bar exam in July. ABA rules require me to inform you that I am not a lawyer and can't represent myself as one until after passing the Bar. 

 

 

DON'T YOU HEX ME WITH LAWYER SPEAK!!!!! 

 

 

LOLOLOLOLOL 

[Ithillian Turambar]

59 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

On 4/24/2025 at 5:06 AM, ed2funy said:

 

Currently no read on 3P. Some null thoughts cause they don’t stick out and it’s hours and hours between catching up and nothing else is sticking out. 
 

fully confident on DPR. He’s even admitted he’s mafia thanks to wagonomics! 

 

1. Ithillian Turambar

2. dicetosser1 - town

3. Turin Turambar 

4. Nynaeve - lean scum. Enough poking and prodding without real work but gets to frame it better than my short posts that tickle DPR’s low hangers. 

5. DPR - DIE

6. Verbal32 

7. Zander (formerly Lenlo) - null 

8. ed2funy - sexiest monkey in town 

9. keyholder21 - lean town, like interactions. Posts too long 

10. RandA lThor 

12. Tigraine - town lean 

13. HeavyHalfMoonBlade - slight scum lean from bad taste on d1. Can’t pinpoint. 

 

1 hour ago, dicetosser1 said:

@DPR I went looking but got sick of it so going off memory here

 

iirc ed town read me, nun, key and ithi

 

his muck up with nyn and me at eod eliminates her imo. That leaves ithi and key

 

 

 

Yeah. You got some of that right.

 

You could have just gone back a page and read it. In fact, if you read my latest post, wouldn't you have already read the earlier one.

 

Anyways. Don't be lazy. I need to sleep now.

[Zander?]

9 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

You could have just gone back a page and read it. In fact, if you read my latest post, wouldn't you have already read the earlier one.

 

Anyways. Don't be lazy. I need to sleep now.

 

Are you taking to Dice here?!??!   I think I need sleep too lololololol 

[dicetosser1]

10 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

You could have just gone back a page and read it. In fact, if you read my latest post, wouldn't you have already read the earlier one.

 

Anyways. Don't be lazy. I need to sleep now.

I went back to the lunch actually.  Started going backwards looking for the list he gave you. I had already been going forward thru to answer for earlier and hadn’t seen it.

 

so instead of being difficult how about you just tell me what I missed?

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

On 4/24/2025 at 6:06 AM, ed2funy said:

 

Currently no read on 3P. Some null thoughts cause they don’t stick out and it’s hours and hours between catching up and nothing else is sticking out. 
 

fully confident on DPR. He’s even admitted he’s mafia thanks to wagonomics! 

 

1. Ithillian Turambar

2. dicetosser1 - town

3. Turin Turambar 

4. Nynaeve - lean scum. Enough poking and prodding without real work but gets to frame it better than my short posts that tickle DPR’s low hangers. 

5. DPR - DIE

6. Verbal32 

7. Zander (formerly Lenlo) - null 

8. ed2funy - sexiest monkey in town 

9. keyholder21 - lean town, like interactions. Posts too long 

10. RandA lThor 

12. Tigraine - town lean 

13. HeavyHalfMoonBlade - slight scum lean from bad taste on d1. Can’t pinpoint. 

Cannot sleep

[dicetosser1]

Ok so just read you last post and found it.  That wasn’t there when I answered btw

 

right so he had nyn as scum not town had nothing on ithi and key and tig town.

 

Still went with what I said as my suspects for bussing him

[Verbal32]

2 hours ago, Darthe said:

Right right.

 

Rand was the doctor.  He ded.

 

This isn't surprising - he certainly hinted strongly enough about it.  Still, he helped get Ed, so there's that.

[Verbal32]

3 hours ago, Ironeyes said:

I'm skeptical of DPR's claim, mostly because I don't buy the explanation. You don't play scummy to draw the night kill. And pushing thin cases based on debatable interpretations of language doesn't qualify as hunting in the way he implies he was doing. DPR is top of my WTL list. 

 

You can put him there all you want, but he's an un-cc'd town role right now.  If he's lying, I'm going to smack the real Hider for not countering.  It's not like the scum team can easily kill the Hider anyway.  It's a free scum player dead with minimal town casualties.

 

Unless I'm misunderstanding the role interactions for Hider?

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

6 hours ago, Zander? said:

You a Broadway actor in RL?!?!

 

Or a Drama teacher??

What exactly am I meant to do with this question? This helps solve how? 

5 hours ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

 

I think you should maybe go and have a re read of Day 1 again

 

I have, just a skimming read, but Marsh said he came to defend you initially because he thought you were new. He was worried about LEADING a Lynch on a new player.

 

I found that added to my thoughts about him being Mafia cos how could he lead a Lynch that I'd started?

 

Now I did not know Marsh alignment, and you'd been Heavy on the wordage, so to me I could not understand why Town Marsh would step up for no reason. To me a Town would not know you were Town so why get involved at such an early point of the game.

 

He later advised that he came to think that you were actually Mafia and his seeming defence might cause people to vote him - which it did.

 

One of his posts actually says Heavy is scum right at the very top. 

 

Before he goes on to list other people and why he thinks they might be Mafia.

 

And it was that which caused me to double down, cos if you put Heavy is Scum but then go on to vote another person it gives me the heebie jeebies cos surely you vote for who you think is most Mafia.

 

I'm sorry Marsh but at this point I'd gone all in and again this looked like throwing cover and reasons to not be voting you.

 

The thing is, not believing what a person says is not the same as actively lying.

 

If DPR did not believe Marsh, that does not mean DPR is lying about what his interpretation of events was. I did not believe Marsh but youve not called me out for lying.

 

you say i am intractable, which is a failing of mine it's true, and i am critical of everything. But not that im a liar.

 

Apparently you do not believe that DPR had that interpretation but to then stretch this out to be actively lying is a bit much.

 

But I'm finding it hard to figure out why you cling to this reason as your main sus of DPR, along with of course he's a big ol meanie head, but then also say that you don't find his actions to be anti Town. it's like you've got this one thing, and it's your go to reason for DPR.

 

So I'm thinking that maybe this is because you don't have anything else, and you are trying to distract us from looking this up and seeing that dead Town Marsh actually had you fully as Mafia.

 

So you've actually adopted Marsh thoughts about DPR and are using them as your own.

 

6 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Glad I checked back after brushing my teeth. 

 

Well you got me. I haven't played exactly the same (with completely unspecified differences) in the first three games I've played. Eliminate me now, what shocking anti-town behaviour. 

 

DPR lied about Marsh said, blatantly. He lied about how I popped up with correct and unconfirmed info about the Condemner. But my vote was parked makes me a wolf, especially as I wasn't around for either DL as they have been in the middle of the night for me? 

 

And I pointed out that if town is going to be triggered by someone saying remember how wolfy Heavy was on D1, you needed to eliminate me before the wolves could use that to derail the discussion or trains at a later point. DPR helpfully gave me an Oscar for my reasoning but you all ignored me and now just before the start of D3 we have people saying "remember how wolfy Heavy was D1? Let's inexplicably vote for him now, suddenly his behaviour a week ago is much more compelling". Now maybe I'm wrong, but called in advance that this would only be to the wolves' advantage. So you should have helped Marsh eliminate me instead of killing him if you're just going to come back and follow his reasoning anyway. Then at least he might have survived. 

 

Anyway goodnight. I'm going to bed finally too. 

If you could compare the two bolded parts and tell me why you think I'm trying to hide anything. 

 

And there is no point going back over it. But you misread Marsh and then never bothered to listen to him about what he really meant. DPR quoted what Marsh said but cropped it to make it look like it said something else. And Marsh flipped town, he had no need to catch a slip or lie about it. But since you totally ignored the issue D1 I guess you aren't going to look into it now. And Marsh pretty much had to be town. You said yourself his token vote for Key helped make you decide to vote for him. It probably did him No favours with Key who also voted for him. But his whole reasoning about me flipping then him flipping and all these different permutations leading to Key - all of that tested on me flipping mafia and him flipping town. If either of those first flips had gone against what he was assuming all the rest was meaningless. So he had to think I was mafia, but he could only do that if he was town because if he was mafia he would know I was town. And I argued he was town at the time despite him voting for me, something I have mentioned several times despite being accused of trying to hide it in the most improbable way. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

On 4/24/2025 at 11:57 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Anyways I'm glad DPR has stopped acting like a jerk and come clean. It was super cringey to read. I will not ever buy your angry book!

 

He uses words for a living and it just didn't ring true. I honestly thought Verbal could see that he was winding people up and being a major 🦆 on purpose. Maybe he did. I doubt we'll ever know.

 

Even Heavy got a glimpse cos he was all but your words be all Mafia but your actions not so much.

Also I don't get this. 

 

You say it was super cringey to read DPR, yet you never mentioned this in this chat till he claimed. You also seem to have huge amounts of faith that everything he does is town. Plans, winding people up - why did you never point this out and explain why you thought it was townie? I called it out and explained in no world I understand does a town player act like that and you said nothing. Why not explain why you thought his gambit was town? Where does this deep deep confidence come from? 

 

It just seems odd you only bring it up once it backs up his claim that you could have no idea was coming, if it is genuine. 

[Zander?]

49 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

What exactly am I meant to do with this question? This helps solve how? 

 

If you could compare the two bolded parts and tell me why you think I'm trying to hide anything. 

 

And there is no point going back over it. But you misread Marsh and then never bothered to listen to him about what he really meant. DPR quoted what Marsh said but cropped it to make it look like it said something else. And Marsh flipped town, he had no need to catch a slip or lie about it. But since you totally ignored the issue D1 I guess you aren't going to look into it now. And Marsh pretty much had to be town. You said yourself his token vote for Key helped make you decide to vote for him. It probably did him No favours with Key who also voted for him. But his whole reasoning about me flipping then him flipping and all these different permutations leading to Key - all of that tested on me flipping mafia and him flipping town. If either of those first flips had gone against what he was assuming all the rest was meaningless. So he had to think I was mafia, but he could only do that if he was town because if he was mafia he would know I was town. And I argued he was town at the time despite him voting for me, something I have mentioned several times despite being accused of trying to hide it in the most improbable way. 

 

Honestly I can't determine if it's genuine or not.  I hate asking it but I don't know him well enough to know the difference ATP.  It happens alot over the smallest/most basic stuff when everyone whose played with him has told him there's alot stuff that's never personal and always gameplay related.  And I assume since he's done it as Town he'd have to do it as well if a Wolf.  I obviously knew it was when he's Town but you know yourself there's certain traits you know you have to try and emulate when you rand Wolf.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

7 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Honestly I can't determine if it's genuine or not.  I hate asking it but I don't know him well enough to know the difference ATP.  It happens alot over the smallest/most basic stuff when everyone whose played with him has told him there's alot stuff that's never personal and always gameplay related.  And I assume since he's done it as Town he'd have to do it as well if a Wolf.  I obviously knew it was when he's Town but you know yourself there's certain traits you know you have to try and emulate when you rand Wolf.

Who are you talking to Zander? I guess I'm "him" but you are quoting my post and addressing your reply to someone else. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Fwiw I both agree completely with Marsh, that DPR's claim is nonsensical, and also completely with Verbal, that regardless he is unCC'd and it seems like the real Hider could come forward. But maybe I'm wrong on both those counts. 

 

Which is something of a downer for me as, as I said in my list, that means I can throw all my reads in the bin. All of it. Don't have a clue and everyone is acting a bit weird atm.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

Not Voting
Ithi, Dice, Marsh2, Nyn, DPR, Verb, Zander, Key, Tig, Heavy

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Countodwn to EOD

[Darthe]

Hiiii.  I've went back and changed the formatting of all the flavor, and added flavor for the night kill.

[Ithillian Turambar]

On 4/24/2025 at 2:59 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

I do. But I thought you meant he was setting something up to catch the Mafia. 

 

This is all for @HeavyHalfMoonBlade but i forgot to leave a space at the top of my post to say that.

 

Here I am talking to verbal about the 'set the table' that I thought meant he could see DPR was being a prickle pants to see if he could get anyone to pile on a vote for him.

 

On 4/24/2025 at 4:18 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Well you were having a right barney with him during the night and then come morning it all calmed down again.

 

 

 

 

Doesn't look like you found El Dorado on page 32

 

 

 

so you seem to be getting on ok again

 

and then you say you think hes got a plan.

 

 

 

not really  grumpy yet. Just asking.

 

 

and then you fire back up at DPR but say that bit about the table and plans.

Which is in a post where you seem not happy with DPR it's true. 

 

 

But you like cranky DPR

 

 

So I guess what I'm saying is I thought you'd spotted whatever the mystery thing was on page 32 and you were being cranky at him on purpose, to see if you could bait people into voting him?

 

 

here i am again noting the shift in DPR posts tone and levels of cranky. 

 

On 4/24/2025 at 4:36 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

I'm not sure what your point is in all that.

 

On 4/24/2025 at 4:49 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

You asked why I thought you thought his plan would be a town plan. So I was explaining 

 

Here i am saying that i thought verbal could also see what i saw. Which was someone i thought was just acting like a jerk to see who would take the bait.

 

I might have been saying this to Verbal but it was about my thoughts on DPR

 

And 4 hours plus later DPR does this.

 

On 4/24/2025 at 9:28 PM, DPR said:

 

My schedule is gonna be tight this evening and I dunno when I’ll have time to do this again, so for posterity, may it help the town:

 

I’m the Hider. I choose a person to hide behind each night and if mafia target me, it will miss, even the strongman shot. 

 

Other roles do work on me. And if the person I hide behind is shot, I die as well. 

 

Darthe modified the role specifically for this game, which is why I was particularly interested in the details surrounding the Condemner role. It’s also why it looked to me that Heavy made a slip yesterday saying that the target of the Condemner was chosen randomly (that is not how the Condemner role works) and when Darthe confirmed that point after Heavy pointed it out, it looked like a catch. 

 

I asked Heavy about it and he laughed it off. Looks suss to me. 

 

Since the game started, I’ve made a point to try and draw the NK to me. I’ve done this by picking fights with a number of you to try and get reactions as well as reactions from the people around you. 

 

Don’t get me wrong - most of you are playing hideously lol - but there was a method to the madness. 

 

For the naysayers, I laid out my plan to Darthe in advance because if you can’t call your shots, it’s just luck. He can post it if he feels like it. 

 

My reads were mostly authentic. 

 

I do firmly believe dice is mafia - I’ve played with him for many years and I would be genuinely shocked if towndice endangered the real Cop by risking them cc’ing. 

 

But I don’t think he is the real Cop because I would also be genuinely shocked if mafia didn’t use their Strongman shot on him last night. Maybe I’ll be shocked, we’ll see. 

 

Rand has been fun to torment lol, but there’s a chance he’s just high-strung. He works against the town in a number of ways, but he’s so passionate about it that it’s hard to tell if he’s genuine, mafia, or a methaddict. Those WoT’s tho…

 

Verb is always a hard read for me. We’ve been through too much trauma together. Last game he was smarmtastic as mafia (so was dice) and he’s pulled some of the same looks in this game but not all. Y’all will have to be the judge of him. 

 

I truly have no idea what ed is doing. To me he’s the most obvious anti-town force based on his weird play and lack of contribution. I dunno why he’s playing it like that.

 

Tig is on the bubble, but sometimes she does appear to be trying. 

 

Nyn continues to look good. Turin, Ithi and Key are all putting themselves out there to solve. Zander looks fine so far. 

 

I think that’s it. For the sake of town, I’d prefer to live but I’ve also put myself into a spot where resolving me answers questions, and with last night’s missed kill, the town can absorb the loss numerically. 

 

As far as dishy hot takes go, no one can touch my stuff, but that’s a loss you’ll just have to live with. 

 

🏴‍☠️ 

 

Here is DPR claiming his role, and confirming he was being a 🦆on purpose.

 

1 hour ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Also I don't get this. 

 

You say it was super cringey to read DPR, yet you never mentioned this in this chat till he claimed. You also seem to have huge amounts of faith that everything he does is town. Plans, winding people up - why did you never point this out and explain why you thought it was townie? I called it out and explained in no world I understand does a town player act like that and you said nothing. Why not explain why you thought his gambit was town? Where does this deep deep confidence come from? 

 

It just seems odd you only bring it up once it backs up his claim that you could have no idea was coming, if it is genuine. 

 

This is you saying I didn't point out that I didn't believe DPR was really being a 🦆until after he claimed.

 

Which is not true. Does that mean you lied?

 

And I think that you think I'm an easy target today, because of things that have been said by other people. So you're tacking on this thought, because it's easier than continuing saying that DPR is a liar.

 

With regards to why I think he is Town. I think you and me play very differently. You think everyone is Mafia. I start by thinking that everyone is Town.

 

*don't mention Hamilton 

 

And then I watch and see if anyone does anything that seems to be Not Town to me.

 

So you came in with your crafted neutral posts and it was still super easy game and it felt off to me that you were trying so hard to be neutral instead of natural. That's a non Town thing in my book

 

And then Marsh pops up to 'help the newbie' and your posts become more natural. And I think we all know where my thoughts on Marsh went then.

 

Tigs also have been carefully neutral. She hasn't tried to take a stance. Her posts has been very fence sitting while seeming to show she was solving. I've previously posted a lot of quotes that gave me this thought.

 

Ed was also very sporadic and neutral, with random pop up posts and then a pop up vote on DPR. I asked him to make a list to see if he would have anything of substance in there or it would be guff. And yeah a lot of empty space in that list. Not a Town thing to do. 

 

And I'm not going to go raid the Snickers again cos I've made it very clear that I feel my catch of nonsense role mechanics helped to make Ed forget what name he'd given when he first claimed.

 

So with regards to DPR, you've even said that his words are harsh but his actions don't seem to be Mafia. 

 

I just couldn't believe that the pirate would use a sledgehammer to smash through the Thread when actually he is very clever with words. 

 

But now I need to try again to see who might be 3rd Party, cos I thought that was Rand.