90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Turin Turambar]

Hey Key, I figured out what you were asking about with regards  to Heavy( I think).

 

I was asking anyone that cared to answer, your response led me to consider other possibilities.  I'm not sure either way but appreciate the response. 

 

About Dice's further posts, I don't really remember anything other than his misrepofme and then latching onto what I thought was an easy vote on Rand for joining late and making jokes with Nyn.

 

I hope that I didn't miss anything else.

[Nynaeve]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:18 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Ok on the first part.

 

Hard disagree on the second part, and for somebody who plays with the JN peeps (who try to pull that stuff all the time), I'm surprised that's a scumtell for you.

 

Third one makes no sense to me.  How are you able to tell over Easter weekend what is sporadic due to intent vs. sporadic due to life?

 

 

Dunno man, I rarely see this WIM in scum - especially on D1 when they could have coasted (what we like to sometimes call "doing a Verbal", heh).

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*doing a Gerbil

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:22 PM, keyholder21 said:

Third bold - what does this mean??

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Ah, this was I did not like Marsh's reasoning but he hadn't used it to throw suspicion on anyone. He was presenting a false dichotomy that I must be mafia or have an uber good PR, but had not made that argument actually do any work in terms of who was mafia at that point. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:51 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

Hush sweet child

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Awwwww, but Mooooooooom! 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:43 PM, DPR said:

See bold below 

 

 

 

To your point, I didn’t misrep anything at all - you said “I made Ithi and Turin think I was defending him”. 
 

This statement clearly implies that you mislead them, and your later statement of Key “taking the opening” is a clear reference to “the opening” being a trap. 
 

You, sir, were the cause and the effect was a direct interpretation of your own actions. 
 

You know who deceives and tries to trap people? 
 

To Heavy’s point, you just flat out lied. You absolutely pretended to defend him, see your statements above lol.
 

I feel just fine about my vote. 

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The language is confusing slightly (I get the irony) but it is clear when you look at it. Clearly the motivation is to be nice, not to deceive, though it is very easy to get the wrong impression. 

 

Cannot help but feel this is a misrep, and with my grudging town suspicions of Marsh... 

 

Vote: DPR

[Nynaeve]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:44 PM, Verbal32 said:

Has anybody tunneled on only 1 player so far?

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I guess I might fall into that category with my vote on dice, though I initially voted him as my lolvote and it eventually turned into a srs one.

 

I think competing trains on dice and heavy would be good.

 

Did darthe answer what happens if majority isn't met? 

 

@Darthe

 

[Nynaeve]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:59 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

The language is confusing slightly (I get the irony) but it is clear when you look at it. Clearly the motivation is to be nice, not to deceive, though it is very easy to get the wrong impression. 

 

Cannot help but feel this is a misrep, and with my grudging town suspicions of Marsh... 

 

Vote: DPR

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Feels like you should light a cigarette and take a few puffs xD

[DPR]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:50 PM, Ironeyes said:

Do we speak the same English language? Trap and Accident are not synonyms.

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  On 4/21/2025 at 6:59 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

The language is confusing slightly (I get the irony) but it is clear when you look at it. Clearly the motivation is to be nice, not to deceive, though it is very easy to get the wrong impression. 

 

Cannot help but feel this is a misrep, and with my grudging town suspicions of Marsh... 

 

Vote: DPR

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Lol, he literally said that he was “trying to be nice” and then said he “never pretended to be anything”  - and that’s in reference to your own question to him. 
 

It’s gonna be a long game

[Nynaeve]

  On 4/21/2025 at 7:09 PM, DPR said:

 

Lol, he literally said that he was “trying to be nice” and then said he “never pretended to be anything”  - and that’s in reference to your own question to him. 
 

It’s gonna be a long game

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Have some rum, take a load off

[Nynaeve]

Im gonna have to go to bed in like 2 hours max, so.... chop chop

[Ironeyes]

  On 4/21/2025 at 7:09 PM, DPR said:

 

Lol, he literally said that he was “trying to be nice” and then said he “never pretended to be anything”  - and that’s in reference to your own question to him. 
 

It’s gonna be a long game

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...so "trying" and "pretending" are synonyms too? 

Heavy, can you loan DPR your thesaurus please? 

[Ironeyes]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:59 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

The language is confusing slightly (I get the irony) but it is clear when you look at it. Clearly the motivation is to be nice, not to deceive, though it is very easy to get the wrong impression. 

 

Cannot help but feel this is a misrep, and with my grudging town suspicions of Marsh... 

 

Vote: DPR

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This is surprising

[Leelou]

 

Official Vote Count

 

Dice (2/7): Nyn, Turin

Marsh (2/7): Ithi, Wes

Tig (1/7): Ed

Rand (1/7): Dice

Heavy (1/7): Lenlo

Key (1/7): Marsh

Wes (1/7): Heavy

 

Not Voting: Verb, Key, Rand, Tig

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

count down to hammer time

[Turin Turambar]

  On 4/21/2025 at 7:04 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

I guess I might fall into that category with my vote on dice, though I initially voted him as my lolvote and it eventually turned into a srs one.

 

I think competing trains on dice and heavy would be good.

 

Did darthe answer what happens if majority isn't met? 

 

@Darthe

 

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He didn't to my knowledge.  I just looked in the OP here and the sign up thread.  Nothing even about it. I dunno.

 

[Ironeyes]

  On 4/21/2025 at 7:17 PM, Leelou said:

 

count down to hammer time

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Oof, that ends at 7 pm in my time zone. I thought it was going to be 9. People are showing up to my house for a Magic draft at 6:30... I'll do my best to be on as late as possible.

[keyholder21]

I was hoping to catch up fully before I had to leave for a meeting and classes, but no such luck. Reading through the rest here's what I've got right now.  

Heavy - leaning scum. felt like newbie town at first, but I can't get the switch in tone out of my head, especially when he says that he didn't switch tone?  I also feel like his reads were light on decisions and mostly copying what other folks were saying in thread. 

 

IE - Scummy. Defense of heavy, then wigging out when defense was called out, and contradictions of himself in thread, and then laser focusing on me when there are other people who also pointed out his defense of Heavy???

 

Verb - showed up and seems to be doing work.  This is vastly different from last game which makes me lean town. 

 

DPR - light early game involvement, but in the mix now.  Seems to be scum hunting and looks like last game to me where he was town, so town.

 

Lenlo - null.  I like some of the questions he's asking and I think it's good that he acknowledge he wasn't here and is trying to fix that, but I also get the feeling  he is just sitting back and letting the thread happen which feels like it reminiscent of way back when scum?  I don't feel super strongly either way, so need more.  

 

Nyn - Town. Felt good about her all game.  I think she's asking good questions and remaining up on the game.

 

Turin - Town, but with a tinfoil re: involvement/attitude. I think he's also asking good questions and he is trying to explain himself, which, imo, he did last game as town. I still feel like his involvement/attitude is off, but I know that's colored by last game, hence tinfoil.   

 

Ithi - Feels town. Seems to be poking and prodding the thread and asking good questions, imo.

 

dice - Scummy. I didn't hate his vote on Heavy, personally, but I don't like his posts since. He gave, it felt like LOTS of reasons for his gut read on Nyn and little else for his reads otherwise.  I also don't like that he needed to be asked to provide his reads?

 

Eddie - ???? Here somewhat, but seems to be playing rather than trying to scum hunt. I don't remember enough of his meta to know whether or not this is AI for him.

 

Rand - Scummy, imo.  Here for a sec, seemingly wigs over his joke vote to Nyn, offers a "reads" list that basically says nothing and then is gone again. 

 

Tigraine -  ???? doesn't really feel like she's here and I, and I know this is going to be hypocritical lol, don't like that she's on like page 8 of her catch up when we are so close to DL.

[keyholder21]

Vote: Ironeyes

[keyholder21]

I will be out for a little while, but should be able to get back on this evening.

[Verbal32]

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:50 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

I agree with your stances. DPR still on the null part, but mebbe.

 

Will need a shower bc of this.

 

Will not be putting my finger anywhere.

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Sorry not sorry, heh.

 

 

 

  On 4/21/2025 at 6:54 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

*doing a Gerbil

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Literally the only funny thing JiF has ever done was that.  And it was only because Wombat was in the game and he was trying to link us.

[Leelou]

Official Vote Count

 

Marsh (3/7): Ithi, Wes, Key

Dice (2/7): Nyn, Turin

Tig (1/7): Ed

Rand (1/7): Dice

Heavy (1/7): Lenlo

Key (1/7): Marsh

Wes (1/7): Heavy

 

Not Voting: Verb, Rand, Tig

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

count down to hammer time

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 4/21/2025 at 7:14 PM, Ironeyes said:

This is surprising

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Told you, dude, I'm Town and I think there is a good chance that will confirmed pretty soon, lol. Just be prepared to rethink your reads on the game.

[Verbal32]

  On 4/21/2025 at 7:17 PM, Leelou said:

 

 

Official Vote Count

 

Dice (2/7): Nyn, Turin

Marsh (2/7): Ithi, Wes

Tig (1/7): Ed

Rand (1/7): Dice

Heavy (1/7): Lenlo

Key (1/7): Marsh

Wes (1/7): Heavy

 

Not Voting: Verb, Key, Rand, Tig

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

count down to hammer time

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Some super weird votes here.  Wes voting Marsh and they both think Heavy is scum.  Marsh voting Key, but thinks more Heavy.  Key now votes Marsh, but they are both playing the exact same type of game - high effort, long posts with research involved.

 

Wait, Ithi is voting Marsh?  I don't remember that.

 

@Ithillian Turambar

Did you post a reason for that vote?  If so, I totally missed it and apologize.  10 words or less why?

[Verbal32]

I get it.  I now feel like Zander - I'm surrounded by wolves and Darthe made this game bastard just to urge me to go dodge traffic.

[Verbal32]

@Zander?

 

I'll never judge you again.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I was the first to vote him. I had my vote on Heavy and then he popped up to defend him.

 

So like I've already said at least twice in this game, either it's Marsh Mafia white knighting town heavy. 

 

Or Mafia Marsh stepping in to damage control on Mafia heavy.

 

Marsh is Mafia in both those scenarios so I switched my vote.

 

10 words.

 

If two options. One give higher success. Choose other option.