[Standard] Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Mafia Wins D4

[Lizabeth]

And @Liz I am caught up but a good bit I read on my phone and given thechance I will go back and re-read on my PC.

Okay.

 

(back to work!)

[Nynaeve]

Save you from yourself? That's a tall order

 

Btw, I get that people see Darthe as stubborn in games, but that's kind of the only way to get people to listen. Sometimes it can get a bit personal, but for the overwhelmingly most part I enjoy playing with Darthe. There. I said it.

 

 

Well, at least we can confirm that Sooh isn't actually a Pizza alt.

[Darthe]

 

You're strange. No, I'm not at a place to speculate" on interactions yet, even if I could answer I wouldn't want to speak for someone else, and beating our chests? I didn't realize that. As for your serious question, I was curious. It is my nature.

I get that a lot. It's kind of my thing ;)

 

Do you think I'm any more strange than the other two times that you played with me?

 

And you may have missed this before, but I also asked you about your question to BFG about her getting serious "this early" in a game.

 

Because to me, BFG didn't really start getting serious that early. I had to read through almost 10 pages of fluff before getting to the part where BFG and Cory were trying to make a push for content.

 

So there's actually two parts to my question: a) having played with BFG before, do you not expect her to get serious this early? b) do you still think it's early?

I don't remember you beyond the name

[Darthe]

 

 

omg I'm dead in the other game! Now I can be all in here. Catching up.

Save me from this growing sense of malaise?

Save you from yourself? That's a tall order

 

Btw, I get that people see Darthe as stubborn in games, but that's kind of the only way to get people to listen. Sometimes it can get a bit personal, but for the overwhelmingly most part I enjoy playing with Darthe. There. I said it.

Sisters before misters

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Depends?

On?

Thank goodness makes it so much easier to clean up the mess when you poop on yourself....

 

Back to seriousness...

 

Bfg I didn't address Cory/darthe because darthe will always seem wolf to me because of the way he plays (belligerent, "all-knowing", uncompromising) and Cory will always appear town because of the way he gets so invested in the game. I'm horrible at reading both so I will comment very little on either, especially early unless they do something crazy.

I really dont get where that impression comes from. If anything I think the opposite rings more true. Im invested as hell and I am pretty clear on how often I think im wrong.

 

Why are cory and I being paired so often btw?

From playing with you multiple games. And that might be true in your mind. But in my mind my thoughts are my thoughts, and that's how I read you. *shrugs*

It sounds negative. If you expect to progress then you'll have to move past it and if you don't care to then I don't see a reason to work with you in games. Kind of a bind you're putting me in here where I'm damned regardless.

You're not damned.. *shrugs* I know that's the way I read you and I will take that into perspective when reading you and not put much weight in my own thoughts of you. That wasn't saying I'm going to vote you regardless, it means I probably won't comment a lot on you unless you do something out of the ordinary because I'm horrible at reading you and will second guess myself constantly about if you're REALLY wolfy or if I'm just reading what you say as wolfy because of how I perceive your tone (which I understand may not be accurate). Most likely I will factor in what everyone else says of you and make an opinion based on that, especially if I can find someone that I'm fairly sure is town. Cory is a similar person because he always seems town to me which makes me second guess everything about him.

That makes so much more sense to me ty

[Darthe]

 

Save you from yourself? That's a tall order

 

Btw, I get that people see Darthe as stubborn in games, but that's kind of the only way to get people to listen. Sometimes it can get a bit personal, but for the overwhelmingly most part I enjoy playing with Darthe. There. I said it.

 

Well, at least we can confirm that Sooh isn't actually a Pizza alt.

Lol I kinda miss him

[Lizabeth]

 

 

You're strange. No, I'm not at a place to speculate" on interactions yet, even if I could answer I wouldn't want to speak for someone else, and beating our chests? I didn't realize that. As for your serious question, I was curious. It is my nature.

I get that a lot. It's kind of my thing ;)

 

Do you think I'm any more strange than the other two times that you played with me?

 

And you may have missed this before, but I also asked you about your question to BFG about her getting serious "this early" in a game.

 

Because to me, BFG didn't really start getting serious that early. I had to read through almost 10 pages of fluff before getting to the part where BFG and Cory were trying to make a push for content.

 

So there's actually two parts to my question: a) having played with BFG before, do you not expect her to get serious this early? b) do you still think it's early?

 

I don't remember you beyond the name

 

Do you remember BFG? You still haven't answered my question about your question to her.

 

Why you gotta make me beg? :(

[Sooh]

<3 Sooh

 

 

agreed, but don't tell anyone

 

<3

 

 

On what exactly?

 

[Sooh]

 

Liz, are you the type of person to comment on everything (aka Zander 2.0)?

Do you think that's what I'm doing? I don't think that's what I'm doing.

 

Pretty sure I've only commented on a few things. I'm collecting observations. I'll comment on the observations once I have answers and I've sorted through them.

 

What about my posting makes you think that I'm commenting on everything?

 

Oh boy! lol

 

I think you're very nitpicky and reading posts perhaps as more serious than I would? Your questions make me feel like you're out to get people, which I guess is what you are regardless. 

[Sooh]

 

 

 

omg I'm dead in the other game! Now I can be all in here. Catching up.

Save me from this growing sense of malaise?

Save you from yourself? That's a tall order

 

Btw, I get that people see Darthe as stubborn in games, but that's kind of the only way to get people to listen. Sometimes it can get a bit personal, but for the overwhelmingly most part I enjoy playing with Darthe. There. I said it.

Sisters before misters

 

High five sis!

 

 

???

 

[Sooh]

 

 

Save you from yourself? That's a tall order

 

Btw, I get that people see Darthe as stubborn in games, but that's kind of the only way to get people to listen. Sometimes it can get a bit personal, but for the overwhelmingly most part I enjoy playing with Darthe. There. I said it.

Well, at least we can confirm that Sooh isn't actually a Pizza alt.

Lol I kinda miss him

 

Uhm

 

lol?

 

Weird!

[Nynaeve]

@mods can salami be prodded to actually freaking show up?  

[Sooh]

Nyn, talk to me. Got any hot takes so far? 

 

You said Liz was even more inquisitive in her POG game? Does it tell you anything about her alignment here?

[Lizabeth]

 

 

Liz, are you the type of person to comment on everything (aka Zander 2.0)?

Do you think that's what I'm doing? I don't think that's what I'm doing.

 

Pretty sure I've only commented on a few things. I'm collecting observations. I'll comment on the observations once I have answers and I've sorted through them.

 

What about my posting makes you think that I'm commenting on everything?

 

Oh boy! lol

 

I think you're very nitpicky and reading posts perhaps as more serious than I would? Your questions make me feel like you're out to get people, which I guess is what you are regardless.

 

Okay, fair enough if that's your perception. There's actually only one person I know who routinely gets what I'm doing when I do what I do, so I can't blame you if you don't get it.

 

But what specifically do you think i'm being nitpicky about? Who do you think I'm out to get? And how would you propose that we set about finding scum if we're not questioning what they say?

 

To give you a little bit of insight into moi, though, I'll say this: not everything I say is serious. But I definitely will let people know when I am, and I hope you can figure out at this point what I'm actually serious about. 

 

For example, to give you an idea of what I'm getting at with regards to Darthe - what do you think of the fact that he has repeatedly ignored my questions about his comments to BFG about her being serious so 'early" in favour of responding to the more peripheral questions that I've asked.

 

 

 

And while we're at it, what do you think of the fact that Darthe has

 

 

[Lizabeth]

Nyn, talk to me. Got any hot takes so far? 

 

You said Liz was even more inquisitive in her POG game? Does it tell you anything about her alignment here?

I've never played POG.

 

And I missed that part - Nyn talked about me?

[Ironeyes]

OK, just finished my reread! This isn't a proper reads list since I didn't rank people by how towny I think they are. It's a little early for that, so I just stated my thoughts stream-of-consciousness style. And yes this is copy/pasted cause I typed it in the Notes app, that's why it's a different font/size. I can't figure out how to paste in the formatting of the target area. 

 

1. Katiora: Entered the game late but her first analysis post on page 13 said she only had an opinion on BFG and Nyn. Seemed odd to me because by the time I got to it in the reread I’d already seen enough to form at least preliminary opinions on Alanna, Darthe, and Cory. So was Kat trying to draw attention away from one of them? Darthe and Cory I could understand her not having anything for because the posts I used as a basis for my analysis at this point could just as easily be interpreted as just goofing around. And when asked why she didn’t talk about those two on the following page she had a good answer. But there was definitely enough data ATP for Kat to have formed an opinion on Alanna, yet she didn’t mention her at all. I won’t try to draw an alignment from it yet but I’d say they might be linked some how. 

2. Darthe: Starts the game with a string of posts that are somewhere in the middle of interesting and incomprehensible, including a strange bit about Cory’s AA joke being pre-typed. Why does that even matter? If I’m going to post something really long (like this reads list which I’m currently typing in Notes) I’ll probably type it outside of DM and copy/paste it in later to avoid losing the whole thing to a webpage glitch, which has happened to me multiple times before. But incomprehensible is part of what I see as Darthe’s town meta and reminds me of our last game where he was town. 

3. Lizabeth: I don’t know her at all, so I’m not willing to form a quick opinion. But so far most of her posts have been questions designed to get people to state opinions and analysis, which I like. One caveat on that is that it’s sometimes really easy to do that but never get around to stating your own opinion, which can be a clever way to slide under the radar. 

4. Csarmi: Who? 

5. Prallia (Pralaya/Hallia): Pral hasn’t posted once, and Hallia just three or four times. I can’t draw a conclusion without more info. 

6. BFG: Made an excellent observation about Alanna calling out Cory’s OP but then saying it doesn’t mean anything, which got her to explain how she’d changed her mind. On point. 

7. Sooh: Wasn’t able to be in-thread much for a bit, similar to me, but was very engaged while here. Seems towny.

8. Alanna: Enters the game throwing suspicion at Cory, which seemed pingy to me at the time but I realize she was trying to get the game moving by giving us something to talk about. What I found a bit strange was that she didn’t respond with that explanation when I asked her about it, but rather turned attention to me by asking what alignment I thought she was. Could be another attempt to get some solid content out there or could be trying to stay out of the limelight. 

9. Nynaeve: Took a while to post a strong analysis but when she did it was solid. 

10. Ironeyes: Towning it up! 

11. Cory Caboose: Constantly insisting he’s town at first, which seemed odd to me. Then when Alanna mentioned it he just started posting “and?” after everything she wrote, which is just needling the way I see it. Later on he told BFG she’d eventually figure out he’s town so she might as well not investigate him. I dunno if there’s a history here I’m unaware of but just ignoring anyone based on their word alone is kind of opposite of how this game is supposed to work IMO. 

[Nynaeve]

Nyn, talk to me. Got any hot takes so far? 

 

You said Liz was even more inquisitive in her POG game? Does it tell you anything about her alignment here?

 

She was more hyper and intense in questioning in the PerC game, yes. But then that's her homesite and she was surrounded by players she plays with a lot. Here I don't think she's familiar with most of us. Maybe the few that have played over at PerC at one time or other or that one game(?) she played here. So I'm not particularly bothered by her not being as "in your face". Gonna give her the space to warm up and see. The way she's asking things, though, seems similar. 

[Nynaeve]

 

Nyn, talk to me. Got any hot takes so far? 

 

You said Liz was even more inquisitive in her POG game? Does it tell you anything about her alignment here?

I've never played POG.

 

And I missed that part - Nyn talked about me?

 

 

I only brought up the bad stuff, promise 

[BFG]

Ironeyes, would you mind explaining your read on Alanna (and ideally how it's changed through the game)?

[BFG]

 

<3 Sooh

 

 

agreed, but don't tell anyone

 

<3

 

 

On what exactly?

 

double spoilered since I know nobody on this site is crass enough to read a double spoiler not meant for them

playing with Darthe

 

 

[Katiora]

I suck at reading alanna... Really I suck at reading a lot of people lolololol but I really suck at reading Alanna... If you look at other games I always have a problem and usually think she's scummy. Honestly she usually thinks i'm scummy too. *shrugs* we play very differently. 

 

Also I almost never make any kind of reads this early in the game. I find them pointless and misleading. Town hasn't had time to establish and Mafia has the easiest time faking it D1. I'm a D1 hater lol. I will make comments about people's normal game play, if I know how they play(or feel I do) but unless they do something obviously not town I'm not gonna give a whole lot of reads. And I didn't think I came into D1 late at all.. I was posting about an hour after the thread opened.... O.o *shrugs* 

[BFG]

Kat, what are your three strongest reads right now (this doesn't have to lock them in)

[Lizabeth]

 

 

Nyn, talk to me. Got any hot takes so far? 

 

You said Liz was even more inquisitive in her POG game? Does it tell you anything about her alignment here?

I've never played POG.

 

And I missed that part - Nyn talked about me?

 

 

I only brought up the bad stuff, promise 

 

There is no bad stuff, though ;)

 

I'm curious on more your thoughts so far. Working from home is over and I've got to run to the office, so I guess I'll have to read them after I get home!

 

And for the record, this game feels like it's lagging to me and there's not much to play off of. Not that I want the volume of 90s mafia, but a little more action would be nice. I trust you to stir up some...stuff...while I'm gone?

[Darthe]

I think we should lynch csarmi

[alannalynn]

I'm lurking and skimming while out... still have a 1.5 hour drive home after I eat..

 

For those of you who don't like day 1, I really dont care if your reads are terribly wrong or that you suck at reading people, just take a stance. Any stance even if you barely believe in it. You can't be feeling "nothing".