Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wild is going to vote me. She is using every excuse in the book but staying off. Ive really thought I had my read of her down but I had an oh **** moment when right after I justified my read to sooh she made that comment about...... Seriously ive say here for two minutes. What role was it? Gladiator? Something that she said "x role, if thats even a thing" or something along those lines. Shad asked how she would even know about it.

Is this based on the assumption WIfi/Kat w/w???

No, sadly. I dont think this is beyond a town wifi, I simply think that it looks very bad for her since im aware of my alignment. Now, that said I think if wifi is a wolf then that prob confirms kat at one, but the inverse doesn't have to be true.

So Scum!Wifi means Scum!Kat

 

But Scum!Kat dont mean Scum!Wifi?

 

Just want to make sure Im following.

 

Do you think Kat is Scum? Why or Why not?

 

I know youre voting her but for pretty much just self pres reasons iirc

Ive no idea, I never iso'd her or really read her posts and the arguments against her hasade sense but havent been what I consider strong. They're mostly meta which I dont know anyhow.

You refuse to ISO or look into the most sussed person in the game and Top choice for lynch yet youre working on Wifi.....seems legit.....

Was I not just now explicitly clear that I am NOT working on wifi?

I think I was.

I will paraphrase.

 

You refuse to look into the top scum choice and likely lynch option today.

 

And you have refused to this since Day started.

 

Better?

Ive had no interest in doing so. If you think thats a wolfy trait for me you can try and sell it as such but I would think my reputation for cockiness and following my own path, almost to the chagrin of those around me, is pretty well accounted for across the past oh hundred games or so.

 

Tldr, its null and incredibly evidenced as null.

 

 

I just think its sad if youre a villager.

 

If youre Scum then ok.

[dicetosser1]

probably yes zander

 

 

dont like that shes comes in today and shes just kindy whingy but not really DOING anything

[Ironeyes]

 

I'm so lost right now... don't know where to vote and this is not the time to be unsure.

There are more dead wolves than townies, I think we are ok if something goes wrong today.

True. That does make me feel better about it. I forgot I have an essay due tomorrow and have spent most of the time I wasn't in class working on it, therefore not paying attention to this game cause playing mafia messes up my writing style. Makes me get too informal. 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL 

 

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

 

would it really help  my town equity to vote him now?? he's already lynched as it is. Right now the easiest thing for me to do as mafia would be to bus if he's scum. It would fit me in every way. I'd be sheeping you (as expected) and putting my vote on a wolf, if he's scum. But then darthe will say "the last 3 people on there are possibly scum because he was already dead" blah blah blah blah. 

 

And honestly I just feel worse about believer. I am not going to vote against what I believe. 

 

 

Obv I KNOW I can be wrong Kat.

 

But for you to have me as a Top Town read and likes to sheep me, but not alarms me.

 

Honestly on this one I'm afraid you got stuck in the tunnel and I don't know if I can trust your thoughts on the matter. And while a lot of the time I "sheep" you... I do it for my own reasons not always for yours lol. This time I don't have a reason besides hellian's fight with you. And her disappearing. Honestly If she doesn't show up in the next 15 minutes I will probably switch my vote. I think it's very poor play on any side not to at least show up for deadline. And it it more than slightly scummy. Though Honestly you might have just scared her off lol

 

Kat says she cant trust me and cass on Hellian??? her TOP TOWN READ because Im in a tunnel.

 

She says she doesnt have a reason to think Hellian's Scummy....EXECPT for:

 

- Fight with Zander

- Not Showing up

 

Which are both the reasons Im sussing was sussing Hellian

 

And then she says Hellian is slighty Scummy

 

But she dont switch yet and wont trust her top town read when Kat agrees with our reasons???

 

E does not = mc2 here imo.

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Hellion[/v]

 

I've learned over the years the most important thing you can do as a townie is not waste your vote.

 

I'll be back for you Shad.

 

Unless Nolder is like a pissed off Scummate prolly not a bad look

 

He votes her like 15 hours before DL and dont switch....

 

 

Nolder - meh. He came in seemed to pick a bit of a fight and then said he was gonna put someone on ignore and I haven't seen a lot more out of him. Maybe he accidentally put the whole thread on ignore?? lol idk. 

 

WAT

 

 

ALso IF Kat is a Wolf I dont think Nolder ever is. Unless theyre like lolololol lets just pretty much bus the crap out of each other. (in which case I would put my tinfoil hat back on about shad...)

 

lolololololol

 

Kat and Nold interaction in this post http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98...ed-mafia/?p=3709382.

 

Is what I mean about If ones a Wolf the other prolly not.

 

Im butchering the formatting but all of the above was from last nights QT

 

 

Kat thoughts???

[Katiora]

From Town to Scum: 

 

 

Zander - As much as I keep trying to tinfoil, Zass is town. I can't see any world where he acts like this and isn't town. Even with him sussing me. I've seen him suss wrong before, same difference. 

 

Ironeyes - With his claim I can see no world where he is scum either. Unless he really is a SK, which I think is unlikely. Though possible depending on the amount of scum in this game. a 3 and 1 indep could be possible maybe?? but unlikely. 

 

Wifi - Seems like her normal town self. i could probably tinfoil and see her scum but I just don't think she is. I will stick with the thought that the last game when she subbed scum she had a hard time getting going with her stuff like usual. I think she might would have a harder time in a fresh game and I didn't see that.  

 

Hallia - Has seemed town to me all game. There are a few people who have expressed doubt but I don't see it, and to me her exchange with Darthe earlier SCREAMS town. 

 

 

Shad - I want to say town based on activity and stuff, but I'm afraid he's one of the players that could fake. I THINK he's town and I think it's very good that he's been open about who he's voting and not getting biased and giving everyone time to talk. I think if he were scum he would push harder at someone. 

 

Dice - I have a hard time reading. I think he's town. But sometimes some stuff he says just makes me want to facepalm lol. And I don't know if that makes him more likely town or scum, but he wouldn't be in my wtl right now... 

 

 

Now into my WTL 

 

Pral - been completely inactive, which is an easy place for the scum to hide. please check John and Hellian. I mean D1 both of them were practically non existant. I could totally see a scum in that situation laying low if they aren't being sussed and only putting in enough effort to not get modkilled and to stave off policy lynches. Especially if I'm already known to have a low post count like pral. 

 

Darthe - I always have a HORRIBLE time reading darthe because he always sounds abrasive and defensive to me. but his vote on me for raisens earlier combined with the fact that he won't even ISO me to find another reasoning for his vote bothers me a lot. I mean I understand Zander's vote on me (sort of) but the Darthe vote on me with no reasoning besides "i don't wanna die" is horrible. 

 

Believer - I still hold to my case that he's scum.I thought so D1 and I continue to think so. He has done very little in this thread today besides complain about how everyone is sussing him. He's not scum hunting now. He's whining because he's being suspected. And how in the world can anyone say what he'd do as scum and if he'd buss or anything else if it is as he said and he's never randed wolf before? He was very good in the disney game. I think it's a distinct possibility he is fooling ya'll. 

[dicetosser1]

zander wtf are you doing??

[Katiora]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wild is going to vote me. She is using every excuse in the book but staying off. Ive really thought I had my read of her down but I had an oh **** moment when right after I justified my read to sooh she made that comment about...... Seriously ive say here for two minutes. What role was it? Gladiator? Something that she said "x role, if thats even a thing" or something along those lines. Shad asked how she would even know about it.

Is this based on the assumption WIfi/Kat w/w???

No, sadly. I dont think this is beyond a town wifi, I simply think that it looks very bad for her since im aware of my alignment. Now, that said I think if wifi is a wolf then that prob confirms kat at one, but the inverse doesn't have to be true.

So Scum!Wifi means Scum!Kat

 

But Scum!Kat dont mean Scum!Wifi?

 

Just want to make sure Im following.

 

Do you think Kat is Scum? Why or Why not?

 

I know youre voting her but for pretty much just self pres reasons iirc

Ive no idea, I never iso'd her or really read her posts and the arguments against her hasade sense but havent been what I consider strong. They're mostly meta which I dont know anyhow.

You refuse to ISO or look into the most sussed person in the game and Top choice for lynch yet youre working on Wifi.....seems legit.....

yet your vote is still on me...

Dont try and tilt, you're not there.

 

you don't even know what I am.. You have said multiple games you don't even read my posts. 

 

 

Should he KNOW iyo?

 

now that I think of it it's possible. I just was saying he doesn't even know what my posts are. He won't look. Which is ridiculous. 

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wild is going to vote me. She is using every excuse in the book but staying off. Ive really thought I had my read of her down but I had an oh **** moment when right after I justified my read to sooh she made that comment about...... Seriously ive say here for two minutes. What role was it? Gladiator? Something that she said "x role, if thats even a thing" or something along those lines. Shad asked how she would even know about it.

Is this based on the assumption WIfi/Kat w/w???

No, sadly. I dont think this is beyond a town wifi, I simply think that it looks very bad for her since im aware of my alignment. Now, that said I think if wifi is a wolf then that prob confirms kat at one, but the inverse doesn't have to be true.

So Scum!Wifi means Scum!Kat

 

But Scum!Kat dont mean Scum!Wifi?

 

Just want to make sure Im following.

 

Do you think Kat is Scum? Why or Why not?

 

I know youre voting her but for pretty much just self pres reasons iirc

Ive no idea, I never iso'd her or really read her posts and the arguments against her hasade sense but havent been what I consider strong. They're mostly meta which I dont know anyhow.

You refuse to ISO or look into the most sussed person in the game and Top choice for lynch yet youre working on Wifi.....seems legit.....

Was I not just now explicitly clear that I am NOT working on wifi?

I think I was.

I will paraphrase.

 

You refuse to look into the top scum choice and likely lynch option today.

 

And you have refused to this since Day started.

 

Better?

Ive had no interest in doing so. If you think thats a wolfy trait for me you can try and sell it as such but I would think my reputation for cockiness and following my own path, almost to the chagrin of those around me, is pretty well accounted for across the past oh hundred games or so.

 

Tldr, its null and incredibly evidenced as null.

I just think its sad if youre a villager.

 

If youre Scum then ok.

Its a factor of time, gfy

[Zander?]

What about Tiinker Kat???

[Zander?]

zander wtf are you doing??

 

???

[Katiora]

 

 

 

 

 

 

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL 

 

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

 

would it really help  my town equity to vote him now?? he's already lynched as it is. Right now the easiest thing for me to do as mafia would be to bus if he's scum. It would fit me in every way. I'd be sheeping you (as expected) and putting my vote on a wolf, if he's scum. But then darthe will say "the last 3 people on there are possibly scum because he was already dead" blah blah blah blah. 

 

And honestly I just feel worse about believer. I am not going to vote against what I believe. 

 

 

Obv I KNOW I can be wrong Kat.

 

But for you to have me as a Top Town read and likes to sheep me, but not alarms me.

 

Honestly on this one I'm afraid you got stuck in the tunnel and I don't know if I can trust your thoughts on the matter. And while a lot of the time I "sheep" you... I do it for my own reasons not always for yours lol. This time I don't have a reason besides hellian's fight with you. And her disappearing. Honestly If she doesn't show up in the next 15 minutes I will probably switch my vote. I think it's very poor play on any side not to at least show up for deadline. And it it more than slightly scummy. Though Honestly you might have just scared her off lol

 

Kat says she cant trust me and cass on Hellian??? her TOP TOWN READ because Im in a tunnel.

 

She says she doesnt have a reason to think Hellian's Scummy....EXECPT for:

 

- Fight with Zander

- Not Showing up

 

Which are both the reasons Im sussing was sussing Hellian

 

And then she says Hellian is slighty Scummy

 

But she dont switch yet and wont trust her top town read when Kat agrees with our reasons???

 

E does not = mc2 here imo.

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Hellion[/v]

 

I've learned over the years the most important thing you can do as a townie is not waste your vote.

 

I'll be back for you Shad.

 

Unless Nolder is like a pissed off Scummate prolly not a bad look

 

He votes her like 15 hours before DL and dont switch....

 

 

Nolder - meh. He came in seemed to pick a bit of a fight and then said he was gonna put someone on ignore and I haven't seen a lot more out of him. Maybe he accidentally put the whole thread on ignore?? lol idk. 

 

WAT

 

 

ALso IF Kat is a Wolf I dont think Nolder ever is. Unless theyre like lolololol lets just pretty much bus the crap out of each other. (in which case I would put my tinfoil hat back on about shad...)

 

lolololololol

 

Kat and Nold interaction in this post http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98...ed-mafia/?p=3709382.

 

Is what I mean about If ones a Wolf the other prolly not.

 

Im butchering the formatting but all of the above was from last nights QT

 

 

Kat thoughts???

 

on what?? 

[dicetosser1]

 

zander wtf are you doing??

 

???

 

 

that big post that kat just quoted   why the HELL are u linking to a QT???  even if it doesnt work

[Katiora]

What about Tiinker Kat???

 

Tinker I wrote and then Cut because I moved him down my list and forgot to paste and put him back 

 

 

Tiinker (town should have been below Hallia above Shad, I had him slightly further up before) - Has been very active and appeared to be trying to solve the game and putting in work, which could be a wolf cover in his case but I don't think so, Though I'm slightly tinfoiling him cause I know from experience how good of a wolf he is... 

[Wildfire Sedai]

believe it or not, I'm the same as darthe in that I didn't ISO Kat or anything...however, I know I'm going out on a limb here: I think she's town.  I know I thought she was scum for a while but I have seen darthe in action, he is very manipulative...I just can't get past that.   I am sorry darthe. 

[Zander?]

Kat I see you online....come talk to me please?!?!?!?

 

Ill play nice.

 

<3 <3 <3

 

 

 

I pretty much just policy lynch AJ if he's in the game.. it doesn't matter what he does... >.> 

 

 

I kid I kid... kinda. Though I've joked about policy lynching him in almost every game since the one that we wolfed together in.. and every game I didn't.. and every game he was scum lololololol

 

 

Ok so as far as reads. I'm not gonna quote the whole list, so if I leave someone off they're Null, cause I"m lazy and busy. 

 

 

Zass (Zander/Cass) - It's hard for me to imagine Zander as anything but town from his play so far. Of course that could just be because I wanna sheep him *shrugs* 

 

Hallia - I want to see more from. She does seem towny from what she's posted, but I know from experience she's good at appearing towny d1 as scum. So Town lean but that's about it. 

 

WIfi - seems her usual self. This is reassuring after the last game she came in and at first didn't know how to act, which for me was a bigger give away than most took it as. Most likely she's town here. Though the last game could have just taught her how to fake it better lol 

 

And it goes downhill from here lol. 

 

Darthe I'm just not sure about. I always have a hard time reading him though, mostly I think because he's slightly..... abrasive? That word will work.. *shrugs* 

 

Shad - Seems slightly defensive, but I've seen him do that as town so idk. It'd be an easy thing to do as scum to though so he's mostly null. 

 

Nolder - meh. He came in seemed to pick a bit of a fight and then said he was gonna put someone on ignore and I haven't seen a lot more out of him. Maybe he accidentally put the whole thread on ignore?? lol idk. 

 

Marsh - I don't think i'll ever be able to read him on D1. Or maybe ever... Both games I've played with him he's looked fairly similar and seemed scum, but last game I know he was town so maybe i'm just reading him wrong. 

 

Hellian - I don't know. He's new so I don't know how to take him yet. I'm currently reserving judgement because I think some of his stuff that "seems" scummy could just be from him being new and not knowing people and not knowing how to take different people, but could come from scum. 

 

 

 

Who else is in this game? I just went totally blank. 

 

 

And I missed like 4 people so I pulled the list after all cause some of these people I just didn't remember was even here... Like Pral or John Snow. 

 

1. Tiinker -  He played a mean mafia game so I'm kinda hesitant to give him any kind of town lean until I feel much mo betta about him. I should have remembered he was in the game though... I blame just eating lunch and only getting about 3 hours of sleep lol

2. Nolder

3. Kat - lock town

4. Dice - seems very diceish. I'd say probably town lean. 

5. WiFi

6. Hallia

7. John Snow - I had forgotten he was here. 

8. Darthe

9. Zander/Cass

10. Pral - I can't even remember when he posted... and I don't care enough to go back and find it. 

11. Hellian

12. Believer - Don't really know how to take him. He was very..... carefree last game but I don't think that's his normal game. I think he had a IDC attitude because he could be mod cleared at any time. He has been very absent from thread, but he did explain and I"m willing to give more time. 

13. Ironeyes

14. Shad

 

Everyone else I think I covered in the other one. 

 

Looking back it this I honestly feel my D1 Villa comment was bad.

 

Im gonna dig in a little deeper here and see if I change my mind.

 

 

OFR

[Shad_]

Kid aggro is massive right now, going to try and catch back up, but I can't promise anything

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL 

 

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

 

would it really help  my town equity to vote him now?? he's already lynched as it is. Right now the easiest thing for me to do as mafia would be to bus if he's scum. It would fit me in every way. I'd be sheeping you (as expected) and putting my vote on a wolf, if he's scum. But then darthe will say "the last 3 people on there are possibly scum because he was already dead" blah blah blah blah. 

 

And honestly I just feel worse about believer. I am not going to vote against what I believe. 

 

 

Obv I KNOW I can be wrong Kat.

 

But for you to have me as a Top Town read and likes to sheep me, but not alarms me.

 

Honestly on this one I'm afraid you got stuck in the tunnel and I don't know if I can trust your thoughts on the matter. And while a lot of the time I "sheep" you... I do it for my own reasons not always for yours lol. This time I don't have a reason besides hellian's fight with you. And her disappearing. Honestly If she doesn't show up in the next 15 minutes I will probably switch my vote. I think it's very poor play on any side not to at least show up for deadline. And it it more than slightly scummy. Though Honestly you might have just scared her off lol

 

Kat says she cant trust me and cass on Hellian??? her TOP TOWN READ because Im in a tunnel.

 

She says she doesnt have a reason to think Hellian's Scummy....EXECPT for:

 

- Fight with Zander

- Not Showing up

 

Which are both the reasons Im sussing was sussing Hellian

 

And then she says Hellian is slighty Scummy

 

But she dont switch yet and wont trust her top town read when Kat agrees with our reasons???

 

E does not = mc2 here imo.

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Hellion[/v]

 

I've learned over the years the most important thing you can do as a townie is not waste your vote.

 

I'll be back for you Shad.

 

Unless Nolder is like a pissed off Scummate prolly not a bad look

 

He votes her like 15 hours before DL and dont switch....

 

 

Nolder - meh. He came in seemed to pick a bit of a fight and then said he was gonna put someone on ignore and I haven't seen a lot more out of him. Maybe he accidentally put the whole thread on ignore?? lol idk. 

 

WAT

 

 

ALso IF Kat is a Wolf I dont think Nolder ever is. Unless theyre like lolololol lets just pretty much bus the crap out of each other. (in which case I would put my tinfoil hat back on about shad...)

 

lolololololol

 

Kat and Nold interaction in this post http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98...ed-mafia/?p=3709382.

 

Is what I mean about If ones a Wolf the other prolly not.

 

Im butchering the formatting but all of the above was from last nights QT

 

 

Kat thoughts???

 

on what?? 

 

 

lolok

 

I dunno the words in the quote prolly a solid place to start imo.

[Zander?]

OK So just kinda want everyone to follow along here.

 

This is going on after I start pushing towards a Hellian lynch.

 

 

What happened to Pral???

 

 

 

What happened to Pral???

Kinda wondering this myself... 

 

 

 

OK like serious question to everyone:

 

Can you name or show me like one villagery thing from Hellian?

 

 

Do I actually have to ISO on D1 to look at that??? >.> 

 

 

Since it's zander... yes I did... And nothing particularly towny no... *shrugs* but I don't see anything that yells scum either. I DID see what he was talking about where you quoted a hallia post and said it was him. But it was one time, so I don't get the "he keeps doing it repeatedly" vibe he's getting off but I think that could be from frustration. But it could be scum angry because he thinks you're on to him. It's D1... I hate it. It makes me unhappy and slightly indecisive. 

 

 

 

Do I actually have to ISO on D1 to look at that??? >.> 

 

 

Since it's zander... yes I did... And nothing particularly towny no... *shrugs* but I don't see anything that yells scum either. I DID see what he was talking about where you quoted a hallia post and said it was him. But it was one time, so I don't get the "he keeps doing it repeatedly" vibe he's getting off but I think that could be from frustration. But it could be scum angry because he thinks you're on to him. It's D1... I hate it. It makes me unhappy and slightly indecisive. 

I'm seeing what Z means about shading though. And I don't like it any more than he does. 

 

 

I quoted this for 2 reasons:

 

1) Makes me feel even better about Iron.

2) Kat says IM TUNNELING Hellion, yet others are pointing things out.

 

Anyone yet find a reason Hellian is a villager?

 

Anyone have a better suggestion?

 

 

 

Anyone yet find a reason Hellian is a villager?

 

Anyone have a better suggestion?

It's not that I have a better suggestion it's that I have a problem with approaching trying to solve a game from the perspective of " how do we not lose". Bad reason to push a lynch. I'd prefer dice tbh

 

 

 

Zander do you realize that Pral has only 8 posts... 

 

 

Kat pushing a lynch on a pretty much an inactive Pral atp over Hellion, who she thinks is Scummy.

 

I also will have to double check but I dont think she mentions him previously to me calling him out but Ill have to confirm this.

 

Darthe wants to lynch Dice over Scum for #lolderfraisins???

 

I feel pretty strongly there is at least one Wolf in this whole exchange and its not me or Iron.

 

Kat thoughts?

[Katiora]

Zander spell it out for me because it's a big quote and I don't get what you're asking for... 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

what was the one I played with AJ and we were scum? It was the one with 2 scum teams. I'm drawing a blank...

Eldrick's game. I'll give it a peek later, maybe.

 

But basically no standard build where you were wolf from the start of the game. Meh, oh well.

 

I'm not a good wolf... And I hates it... town is much more fun lolololol

 

 

You may think this sounds stupid but, would you say based on activity and WIM ALONE...NO EVEN counting content that shes having fun???

 

I pretty much just policy lynch AJ if he's in the game.. it doesn't matter what he does... >.> 

 

 

I kid I kid... kinda. Though I've joked about policy lynching him in almost every game since the one that we wolfed together in.. and every game I didn't.. and every game he was scum lololololol

 

 

Ok so as far as reads. I'm not gonna quote the whole list, so if I leave someone off they're Null, cause I"m lazy and busy. 

 

 

Zass (Zander/Cass) - It's hard for me to imagine Zander as anything but town from his play so far. Of course that could just be because I wanna sheep him *shrugs* 

 

 

Wants to sheep the Zander.

 

 

 

 

 

CFD onto Dice while he's sleeping still an open offer.....

 

Would it make you feel any better if I claimed JOAT and had a red peek on him?

 

A JoaT with a N0 action? lmao

 

 

Its totally true tho......

 

I'll sheep you Zander

 

 

Wants to sheep the Zander.  ( I know its about a joke but the her always wanting to sheep Town Zander point is still here.

 

 

 

 

you decide

 

False

 

 

 

 

CFD onto Dice while he's sleeping still an open offer.....

 

Would it make you feel any better if I claimed JOAT and had a red peek on him?

 

A JoaT with a N0 action? lmao

 

 

Its totally true tho......

 

I'll sheep you Zander

 

 

Wolfy AF

 

is not... I sheep you all the time... and It would only be wolfy if I actually did it. lololololol

 

 

Wants to sheep the Zander

 

 

 

 

IDK I'm more willing to give the new guy a pass and see if he cleans up then someone that just doesn't seem invested at all.

 

I mean I hate D1 but I still try to put SOME effort into it. Not putting any effort into ANY day is just not very pro-town... I"m kinda wanting to vote Believer... 

 

This does not sound like sheeping Zander.

 

well... I'm not 100% sure I agree with zander... so I may not sheep him immediately :P I think you're town. That doesn't mean you're right lol

 

 

Wait she doesnt agree with the Zander so wont sheep him YET.

 

 

 

 

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL 

 

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

 

 

Then I make this comment:

 

NOW REMEMBER WHEN I QUOTED JOHN SNOW QUOTING THIS POST WITH HIS "MHM" RESPONSE?

 

AND I WAS LIKE PEOPLE TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.

 

 

 

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL 

 

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

 

would it really help  my town equity to vote him now?? he's already lynched as it is. Right now the easiest thing for me to do as mafia would be to bus if he's scum. It would fit me in every way. I'd be sheeping you (as expected) and putting my vote on a wolf, if he's scum. But then darthe will say "the last 3 people on there are possibly scum because he was already dead" blah blah blah blah. 

 

And honestly I just feel worse about believer. I am not going to vote against what I believe. 

 

 

Now shes worried about voting a later confirmed Wolf because Derf's gonna say things???

 

 

 

 

 

honestly my gut is saying [v]Believer[/v] right now. Though I don't know. It is bothering me that Hallian hasn't showed up today AT ALL

 

Hellian flips Scum Kats Wolf Equity rises imo.

lololol I actually feel the same as Kat :p

 

 

That's not it. I think believer looks worse than Hellian, which is why I'm voting there. 

 

 The tone of that post is what bugs me.

 

you can't hear my tone... you can imagine what my tone is, but i don't know what you're imagining. the only tone there is resignation. 

 

And this coming from someone that everyone has posted as scummy... Throwing shade much? 

 

 

When I told you to remember the JOhn SNow quote above:

 

This is 20 mins before DL and its ALMOST a foregone conclusion that Hellions getting lynched

 

This little back and forth is distancing big time imo.

 

 

TLDR

 

Kats a Wolf and she needs to get Lunched imo.

 

 

Kat thoughts?

[dicetosser1]

zander quit the big quotes with like 1 or 2 words after will ya!

[Zander?]

Zander spell it out for me because it's a big quote and I don't get what you're asking for... 

 

Read the quotes i quoted, then my responses/comments.

 

And respond to them.

 

You said you were catching up.  You would have came across them if you did,

[Zander?]

zander quit the big quotes with like 1 or 2 words after will ya!

 

I WANT HER TO ANSWER/ADDRESS THEM AS SHE DIDNT BOTHER DURING HER CATCH UP

[Katiora]

Kat pushing a lynch on a pretty much an inactive Pral atp over Hellion, who she thinks is Scummy.  >>>> Never tried to push a lynch, I was just commenting on it. It was something to keep an eye on. I didn't say "Everyone vote pral he's scum for inactivity" 

 

I also will have to double check but I dont think she mentions him previously to me calling him out but Ill have to confirm this. > >>>I don't remember if I mentioned it before that either, but I had looked at the post counts and noticed that he only had 8 posts for the entirety of D1

[Katiora]

zander quit the big quotes with like 1 or 2 words after will ya!

he's killing me.