Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Tiinker]

And so I feel like, if there was a target in our world, who would have been them, but Tiink, but he was protected.

 

I thought this as well actually given D1 interactions so I made a point of posting out my whole reads list just before night ended so that people could come back and read it.

[Tiinker]

 

TLDR

 

Tink and Kat can be w/w imo.

 

Tink votes John Snow early D1 then says John gets better as he goes along.  Doesnt want any part of the Hellian lynch.  Then switches off John Snow to Believer.  Could be some distancing there with John.

 

Then his Kat posts awe awkward.

 

He leaves 4 people in his reads list PoE and is willing to lynch all but Kat...for raisins?

His Kat reasoning is basically: since the scum roles revealed so far only work in Tel, an ability that pulls people to Tel would have more scum than town utility, so it seems like likely that a wolf targeted Kat? I think? Tiink confirm?

 

I don't really get the relevance of dreamwalker characters being villagers?

 

It makes way too many assumptions based on three flips, though I can get a basic 'scum has an ability to pull town to Tel to guarantee utility of the strongman shot later in the game', I guess.

 

I'd say it's weird, at any rate.

 

His switch from Snow to Believer is clean enough.  Hellian was afk and would know she's up for a lynch by the vote count if/when she got back.  Believer was present to actually talk to us so a vote there had more utility.  If it was a wolf switching from distancing to a town mislynch attempt, he covered his tracks well enough for it to be a rational villager play.  His push on Pral has an OMGUS undertone but he backs off later, which isn't a bad look for him if Pral's a villager.  Wolves need excuses to lynch villagers, Pral's an easy mislynch for low volume + reputation as a tricky wolf, scum inclination when most people are misreading you and you've found an excuse to push a future mislynch is to latch onto it.

 

He called out Wifi for the exact same reason I did because he failed to read her comments below the read list at a glance, just like I did.  Mindmeld of sorts, can't hate it.

 

Meh, I'll never hate a peek on Tiink but I don't think he's wolfy here.  His reason for excluding Kat is kind of weird and he doesn't consider her vote progression, but we don't even know Kat's flip yet and I'd be getting way ahead of myself to focus down that.

 

 

Basically. The Dreamwalkers things was that Dreamwalkers can bring people into TAR and they're town characters for the most part but not really relevant enough to include in a theme game. 

[Tiinker]

And so I feel like, if there was a target in our world, who would have been them, but Tiink, but he was protected.

 

I thought this as well actually given D1 interactions so I made a point of posting out my whole reads list just before night ended so that people could come back and read it.

[Tiinker]

And so I feel like, if there was a target in our world, who would have been them, but Tiink, but he was protected.

 

I thought this as well actually given D1 interactions so I made a point of posting out my whole reads list just before night ended so that people could come back and read it.

[Tiinker]

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

Don't think there was much in the past few pages to really scum read anyone so just gonna go with original reads. Darthe over Believer because Believer is here and fighting his lynch. If I was scum and 2 of my teammates had died before D2 then I'd probably start pushing lynches on other people rather than just defending myself since that's basically just conceding. Or I'd just peace out and play super passively cause no hope which seems more to be the route Darthe is on.

[Tiinker]

Ugh, sorry. Those double posts are the most annoying thing ever.

[Darthe]

Lol me playing hopelessly? Come on man, get your meta right.

[BFG]

D2 Votecount

 

 

Kat (2): Pral, Zass

 

Believer (2): Dice, Darthe

 

Darthe (3): Believer, Hallia, Tiinker

 

Not Voting (4): Ironeyes, Katiora, Shad_, WiFi

 

 

You have until phase change to decide where to stay the night

[Pralaya]

 

My top two picks would be shad/darthe. Although this is just gut feel ... i haven't gone back and reread the game in detail.

Falling asleep as I type here but from what I found you had Darthe in your top villagers and me mixed last you mentioned us. Can you explain these reads?

 

 

Mostly what happened in the TAR QT and his early vote on Believer that looked a bit opportunistic. But as I said, I haven't gone and read the game in detail. I will do it once I have more information.

[Darthe]

That tar bit seemed fairly well explained to me

[Katiora]

holy crap.... really?? I don't even know where i was before this hellacious weekend stopped me from getting online. flatfrown.gif I know this is Zander's fault.. and he's voting me what did I do this time? 

[Katiora]

Oh ya

 

[v] Kat [/v]

wth? This has no context... and just because of this I will do a zander style catch up... 

[Katiora]

 

IDK I'm more willing to give the new guy a pass and see if he cleans up then someone that just doesn't seem invested at all.

 

I mean I hate D1 but I still try to put SOME effort into it. Not putting any effort into ANY day is just not very pro-town... I"m kinda wanting to vote Believer... 

 

The new guy is Hellian.

 

Again for someone who claims to want to sheep me....this is not how you would go about doing that imo.

 

Just because I don't agree with something (even if I'm wrong doesn't make me scum) And just because I DON'T sheep you right of the bat doesn't mean I'm not either. It doesn't make Believer any less scum. Unless something has been revealed that I havent' seen. And as you have seen any kind of reveal is worthless.

[Wildfire Sedai]

Okay Kat, show me what you got.

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

Because I thought that people would listen to logic on D2.

 

I wanted to be safe N1. Unsafe N2.

 

This kind of confuses me....unless....he's a mirror....if there is such a thing....??? where whatever is done to him is done to the person doing it to him???

 

Wifi, who told you what a Mirror was?

 

 

I basically just made it up! That's why there is the phrase: if there is such a thing???....though to be honest when I first started playing I googled mafia and read a lot about the characters and roles they could play....I thought I remembered one such role but thought it was called a bomber or something but didn't want to name it wrong so thought of mirror cause it seemed more accurate to me...so that's how you got that post.

 

 

1.  I think this is in response to tiink's post that he want's to vote me. You know how I get when people say stuff about me   like you're doing now   I mean be serious.  You are so tinfoiling. I have yet to rand a real mafia game: darthe's doesn't count and I subbed in the last one.  So, so far I am tied with you in that I have never rand scum.  [/size]

Let me clue you in on a little secret.

 

Zander might have never randed scum in his Mafia career.

 

But he's been Minority Village often enough.  

 

 

This was in response to BELIEVER not zander...just saying...

[Zander?]

[Shad_]

omg Zander I was going to dig up that gif after I finished in the bathroom

 

lulz

[Zander?]

omg Zander I was going to dig up that gif after I finished in the bathroom

 

lulz

 

You can ONLY CHANNEL YOUR INNER ZANDER WHEN WE SHANDER SHAD!!!!!!!

[Katiora]

Kat I see you online....come talk to me please?!?!?!?

 

Ill play nice.

 

<3 <3 <3

Sorry wasn't really here I don't know why it showed up... and work interrupted my getting catch up so back on it. 

[Wildfire Sedai]

so the bathroom takes precedence over us....  

 

and just what were you.....nvm....none of my business....don't want to know....don't need to know....can probably figure it out on my own... ...

 

I suppose I gotta give her time like you (zander) gave me time....bbbuuutttt.....

 

I don't want to..... *whinge*.......*whine* .....what's the difference between those...besides one letter????  

 

Oh and I answered your questions....what do you think of my responses??

[Shad_]

I basically just made it up! That's why there is the phrase: if there is such a thing???....though to be honest when I first started playing I googled mafia and read a lot about the characters and roles they could play....I thought I remembered one such role but thought it was called a bomber or something but didn't want to name it wrong so thought of mirror cause it seemed more accurate to me...so that's how you got that post.

It stands out to me because it's an accurate definition of a real role with the proper name. As opposed to "I wonder if he has some role that reflects abilities", or some other more intuitive reaction to the thought like that.

 

You have seen a Mirror before, actually.  I was one in Overwatch.  Nolder didn't call it that, but I did and it's in my sig.  Would have felt better with a sort of light bulb "oh yeah, I got it from this" response than sticking to you made it up on your own.

 

Concern is obviously that wolves were discussing possible roles and mentioned that and that's why you knew what to call it.  But it could have been subconscious carry-over from Overwatch, so not as bad as it looks on the surface.  Still made me do a double-take.

 

This was in response to BELIEVER not zander...just saying...

but it was irt a quote by Zander asking you a question about Tiink?

[Shad_]

Going to try and get a lot done this morning so I can be around more closer to DL.  I do have thoughts and stuff but I want to watch a while.

[Zander?]

It makes me honestly a little disappointed in the state of Mafia here that my village game in full force is considered suspicious nowadays. 

 

I mean unless you're all wolves, but you can't all be and it's entirely possible none of you are.

 

I had to hard claim D1 in Lost and I could have probably been mislynched in Overwatch but Cory knew I'd have taken him down with me.

 

Wolf game has never looked like this.  Not even close.  No one cares anymore.  My reads might be awful for all I know, but without people like me and Zander you wouldn't have content to assess in the first place.

 

Just take it a sign of respect for your Scum game imo.

 

 

 

I wasnt even referring to the action itself it was the PURE CONJECTURE part and on.

 

Life she was aware what she was saying and had to defend it.

 

Like a Towny isnt has worried about that kind of comment where Scum likely would be.

Fair and easily resolved. Did you check to see if she does this as a villager?

 

I can after I'm caught up.

 

 

forgot to do this, remind me if I don't tomorrow

 

 

It is tomorrow and youre reminded.

 

GLGLGLGLGL

 

 

TLDR

 

Tink and Kat can be w/w imo.

 

Tink votes John Snow early D1 then says John gets better as he goes along.  Doesnt want any part of the Hellian lynch.  Then switches off John Snow to Believer.  Could be some distancing there with John.

 

Then his Kat posts awe awkward.

 

He leaves 4 people in his reads list PoE and is willing to lynch all but Kat...for raisins?

I left her out because it seemed that the other 3 were a lot more scummy. Also I was pushing the JS lynch and people had already stated they were feeling better about him before I did.

 

 

Meh.

 

Ill have to see how today shakes out.

 

 

 

TLDR

 

Tink and Kat can be w/w imo.

 

Tink votes John Snow early D1 then says John gets better as he goes along.  Doesnt want any part of the Hellian lynch.  Then switches off John Snow to Believer.  Could be some distancing there with John.

 

Then his Kat posts awe awkward.

 

He leaves 4 people in his reads list PoE and is willing to lynch all but Kat...for raisins?

His Kat reasoning is basically: since the scum roles revealed so far only work in Tel, an ability that pulls people to Tel would have more scum than town utility, so it seems like likely that a wolf targeted Kat? I think? Tiink confirm?

 

I don't really get the relevance of dreamwalker characters being villagers?

 

It makes way too many assumptions based on three flips, though I can get a basic 'scum has an ability to pull town to Tel to guarantee utility of the strongman shot later in the game', I guess.

 

I'd say it's weird, at any rate.

 

His switch from Snow to Believer is clean enough.  Hellian was afk and would know she's up for a lynch by the vote count if/when she got back.  Believer was present to actually talk to us so a vote there had more utility.  If it was a wolf switching from distancing to a town mislynch attempt, he covered his tracks well enough for it to be a rational villager play.  His push on Pral has an OMGUS undertone but he backs off later, which isn't a bad look for him if Pral's a villager.  Wolves need excuses to lynch villagers, Pral's an easy mislynch for low volume + reputation as a tricky wolf, scum inclination when most people are misreading you and you've found an excuse to push a future mislynch is to latch onto it.

 

He called out Wifi for the exact same reason I did because he failed to read her comments below the read list at a glance, just like I did.  Mindmeld of sorts, can't hate it.

 

Meh, I'll never hate a peek on Tiink but I don't think he's wolfy here.  His reason for excluding Kat is kind of weird and he doesn't consider her vote progression, but we don't even know Kat's flip yet and I'd be getting way ahead of myself to focus down that.

 

 

Basically. The Dreamwalkers things was that Dreamwalkers can bring people into TAR and they're town characters for the most part but not really relevant enough to include in a theme game. 

 

 

Or not really relevant in a game with fake char and role claims for Scum either imo.

[Zander?]

 

I basically just made it up! That's why there is the phrase: if there is such a thing???....though to be honest when I first started playing I googled mafia and read a lot about the characters and roles they could play....I thought I remembered one such role but thought it was called a bomber or something but didn't want to name it wrong so thought of mirror cause it seemed more accurate to me...so that's how you got that post.

It stands out to me because it's an accurate definition of a real role with the proper name. As opposed to "I wonder if he has some role that reflects abilities", or some other more intuitive reaction to the thought like that.

 

You have seen a Mirror before, actually.  I was one in Overwatch.  Nolder didn't call it that, but I did and it's in my sig.  Would have felt better with a sort of light bulb "oh yeah, I got it from this" response than sticking to you made it up on your own.

 

Concern is obviously that wolves were discussing possible roles and mentioned that and that's why you knew what to call it.  But it could have been subconscious carry-over from Overwatch, so not as bad as it looks on the surface.  Still made me do a double-take.

 

This was in response to BELIEVER not zander...just saying...

but it was irt a quote by Zander asking you a question about Tiink?

 

 

THIS WAS THE RESPONSE I WANTED TO SEE......

[Zander?]

Im also almost positive someone talked about and used the exact word Mirrors irt to Pral in Overwatch