[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Lenlo]

Let's try that again.

 

@Lenlo's "lol what" ?

 

Zander makes a suggestion that WiFi might be Wolfy. 

You come back with "She made this post last game and was town dude. This isn't new."

 

I read it as dismissive tone, disagreeing with Zander and ?TMI since you earlier commented that you always wolf read Celeste/Wifi.

 

It's strange and possibly indicates the posts are insincere.

EDIT: Added this in after I wrote everything else, Zander did not call wifi a wolf. He said, and I quote, "Lily made this same type of self read last game ... and she was a wolf". Lily =/= Wifi,

 

1st, Im not the only person that pointed out she made those posts before, so why am I the only one you have a problem with?

2nd, me always wolf reading them is not the same thing as me not finding that post wolfy. Its one tree in a forest

3rd, I dont see it as dismissive at all, its informing Zander this isnt new for her. Also, TMI wat?'

 

Your really reaching here imo.

[Cass]

 

Let's try that again.

 

@Lenlo's "lol what" ?

 

Zander makes a suggestion that WiFi might be Wolfy. 

You come back with "She made this post last game and was town dude. This isn't new."

 

I read it as dismissive tone, disagreeing with Zander and ?TMI since you earlier commented that you always wolf read Celeste/Wifi.

 

It's strange and possibly indicates the posts are insincere.

EDIT: Added this in after I wrote everything else, Zander did not call wifi a wolf. He said, and I quote, "Lily made this same type of self read last game ... and she was a wolf". Lily =/= Wifi,

 

1st, Im not the only person that pointed out she made those posts before, so why am I the only one you have a problem with?

 

 

2nd, me always wolf reading them is not the same thing as me not finding that post wolfy. Its one tree in a forest

 

3rd, I dont see it as dismissive at all, its informing Zander this isnt new for her. Also, TMI wat?'

 

Your really reaching here imo.

 

 

1. That's not what he said. He quoted WiFi and then said

 

Direct quote:

 

"Lily made this same type of self read last game that I called her out on and she was a Wolf...

 

Just sayin' "

 

I'm pretty sure that's ZanderENFP speak for "WiFi might be shifty here like Lily was." 

 

 

I don't understand your first point or who it's referencing. AFAICT you didn't point out that she made those posts before, Zander did?

 

WRT the second and third points - I'm not saying they're a fantastic reason to read you wolfy by any means, I'm putting it out there that they stood out to me.

[Cass]

Another thing I noted is you left your vote on Celeste after saying you can't read her/always read her scum/will depend on a cop result for her read, you say absolutely nothing else about her, and she's not in your scum reads per se and then you miss the EoD.

 

 

Did you have a strong reason for keeping your 'joke' vote on her so far this game?

[Andrej]

It's because Lenlo is Mafia.

[Celeste]

@Shander Why did you shoot AJ originally?

[Lenlo]

 

 

Let's try that again.

 

@Lenlo's "lol what" ?

 

Zander makes a suggestion that WiFi might be Wolfy. 

You come back with "She made this post last game and was town dude. This isn't new."

 

I read it as dismissive tone, disagreeing with Zander and ?TMI since you earlier commented that you always wolf read Celeste/Wifi.

 

It's strange and possibly indicates the posts are insincere.

EDIT: Added this in after I wrote everything else, Zander did not call wifi a wolf. He said, and I quote, "Lily made this same type of self read last game ... and she was a wolf". Lily =/= Wifi,

 

1st, Im not the only person that pointed out she made those posts before, so why am I the only one you have a problem with?

 

 

2nd, me always wolf reading them is not the same thing as me not finding that post wolfy. Its one tree in a forest

 

3rd, I dont see it as dismissive at all, its informing Zander this isnt new for her. Also, TMI wat?'

 

Your really reaching here imo.

 

 

1. That's not what he said. He quoted WiFi and then said

 

Direct quote:

 

"Lily made this same type of self read last game that I called her out on and she was a Wolf...

 

Just sayin' "

 

I'm pretty sure that's ZanderENFP speak for "WiFi might be shifty here like Lily was." 

 

 

I don't understand your first point or who it's referencing. AFAICT you didn't point out that she made those posts before, Zander did?

 

WRT the second and third points - I'm not saying they're a fantastic reason to read you wolfy by any means, I'm putting it out there that they stood out to me.

 

So your pretty sure, using your BS letter stuff. Sure. Ill let Zander weigh in there.

 

What im saying is, I am not the only person who said that Wifi made posts like that last game, where she was town. This whole thing is reaching

 

Another thing I noted is you left your vote on Celeste after saying you can't read her/always read her scum/will depend on a cop result for her read, you say absolutely nothing else about her, and she's not in your scum reads per se and then you miss the EoD.

 

 

Did you have a strong reason for keeping your 'joke' vote on her so far this game?

Because I wasnt around/educated enough about what had happened to bother changing it? She was in no danger of being lynched so I didnt think it mattered.

 

It's because Lenlo is Mafia.

Yes, because this is classic wolf!Len

[Cass]

So your pretty sure, using your BS letter stuff. Sure. Ill let Zander weigh in there.

 

What im saying is, I am not the only person who said that Wifi made posts like that last game, where she was town. This whole thing is reaching

 

I'll be interested to see what Zander says about that actually.

 

Ok, pointing that out is fine in general. I just found it and the tone an insincere combination with your previous statements. I can see how that might just be tinfoil on my part. 

 

Why so aggro/sarcastic?

 

 

Another thing I noted is you left your vote on Celeste after saying you can't read her/always read her scum/will depend on a cop result for her read, you say absolutely nothing else about her, and she's not in your scum reads per se and then you miss the EoD.

 

 

Did you have a strong reason for keeping your 'joke' vote on her so far this game?

Because I wasnt around/educated enough about what had happened to bother changing it? She was in no danger of being lynched so I didnt think it mattered.

 

Ok, but it was a rvs joke vote and you had Dice, Tiinker, me, Kat and Sili on your suspect list. If you weren't going to be around at EoD you could've moved it to one of them.  

With Tiink being the lynch and me not particularly sold on Dice, Kat or Sili as wolf, you staying away and keeping your vote elsewhere is bothersome for me.

 

 

 

It's because Lenlo is Mafia.

Yes, because this is classic wolf!Len

 

 

I find AJ wolfy here.

 

?Distancing?

 

 

I want to watch where they go from here this phase and ISO Sili etc before placing a vote today but these are currently my top two.

 

Be back later tonight.

[Andrej]

Hm maybe it's actually Cass.

 

Lack of critical thinking?

[Lenlo]

Cass... you think im distancing from AJ? The dude admitted to being the SK. Even I picked up on that, and I have been absent for like 80% of this game.

[Lenlo]

Im not sure that suspect list is correct btw. And I expected to be back for deadline. I wasnt. Thats really the bottom line there

[Andrej]

I promise to be good.

 

I'm a huge threat to Mafia atp because I still have my BPV and now that I'm outed it shines a spotlight onto over slots.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Zander/Shad, who'd you target?

Would like an answer to this before day begins.

 

 

Who said we shot anyone???

 

Shad wouldnt let me shoot Dice for my own personal amusement?

 

If we did shoot who do you think we shoot?

 

 

takes Zanders gun away from him. You can have it back when you can use it responsibly.

 

hits zander for good measure

 

 

 

I actually told Zander not to say anything and now I'm making him look the fool instead of me by jumping in with it.

 

Zander doesnt need any help to look a fool

 

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

Sweet, caught ourselves an SK.

 

ummm what?

 

how do you know this?

 

 

 

 

I believe Shander are likely targets tonight, as I think they are townies, and they have claimed vig. They will probably want to use their vig shot tonight, but the target of this will likely be a hero-shot and not a consensus scum target. I don't think neither Shad nor Zander would operate that way. If Nynlia are doctor they'll somehow find the best target to protect, because Hallia is GOAT like that (not that Nyn isn't, it's just that Hallia has more history that I'm aware of as a successful doc).

Darooh could be SK.

 

I was slightly critical of her strong town read on Wifi so "Shad took a hero shot on Wifi" would have been sellable, if they predicted that our slot would be blocked and night killed.  And if it wasn't, worst case from their POV town would know there's a SK.

 

Darthe's been questionable all game.

 

Just a thought.  She's not a wolf though so I'll worry about it later.

 

ehh??

 

No, you would never hero shot Wifi. Wifi was never a hero shot this game. AJ was, and that's what I expected.

 

 

ok sooh please explain your definition of a hero shot?  Cause i never doubted that shad would shoot AJ. (yes i thought hed stop you from shooting me Zander. I DO know you bro)

 

shad was VERY clear before D1 DL that he thought AJ was sus and he wasnt the only one.

 

 

Cass... you think im distancing from AJ? The dude admitted to being the SK. Even I picked up on that, and I have been absent for like 80% of this game.

 

And you actually BELIEVE that post? Why??

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

Chosed? I typed CHOSED?

 

OMG the English teacher in me is cringing, and I can't edit!

 

*bangs head against wall*

Permission granted to edit because I KNOW how that will disturb you.

Why would you not leave her in torment and anguish? :(

I'm the good cop mod, LDO. Kaylee is the bad cop.

And I love it!

[Shad_]

Zander makes a suggestion that WiFi might be Wolfy.

You come back with "She made this post last game and was town dude. This isn't new." 

 

The tone is kind of dismissive and ?TMI. I read it as disagreeing with Zander.

 

You earlier commented that you "always wolf read Celeste/Wifi".

 

It seems strange.

I said almost the exact same thing to Zander in thread in response to that and we're the same slot so /shrug.

[Kaylee]

Also OP updated and end of N1 linked in either the second or third post.

[Shad_]

If wolves thought AJ was a villager I'm not really sure why I was blocked in the first place?  I mean he was by far the most probable choice for me to shoot at. 

[Shad_]

@Shander Why did you shoot AJ originally?

 

I think I was pretty clear on that yesterday.  He was in no way behaving like a guy who'd finally randed town after a long stretch of non-villa games, and he and Tiink mutually approached each other in peculiar ways that felt like distancing.

 

It even factored into my reasons for wanting to lynch Tiink yesterday before he became the wagon.

[dicetosser1]

im not disagreeing shad  the RB point had occurred to me but lenlos reaction to AJs claim has me questioning.

[Shad_]

fwiw I'm pretty sold on Dice as a villager at this point.

[Shad_]

A part of me wants to holster my opinions for a while and see how this develops with everyone else approaches this, and another part of me wants to go one some  50 post rant speculating on the possibilities.

 

Yay hydra QT. 

[dicetosser1]

lol between you and Zander i expect that QT to be like 4 000 posts

[Shad_]

It's a meager 72 atm. 

 

Zander always plays an open hand.  It's mostly Shad monologues as usual.

[Andrej]

Wolves probably thought blocking any outed PR was +EV than aiming in the dark. Frankly the WiFi kill baffles me but I assume they wanted to avoid protection outright, or Wifi was accurate with her reads or something.

 

Probably smart to see who was town reading me D1 and for what reasons. My performance as a whole is subpar as either alignment, so maybe you'll find some potential TMI.

 

If you wanna be lazy then I guess lynch me. But after JC I think I can be trusted to solve even if I'm not exactly a villager.

 

Would look into Believer/Celeste/Lenlo

 

Maybe Cass

 

Tell me who to vote and who to shoot and I'll be your obliged leashed killer.

[Zander?]

[Darthe]

I would still like to hear Darthe's explanation for why he thinks Sili's behavior leading up to the self-vote is more likely to come from his wolf game.

 

Sili's one of the people Darthe typically claims to read well.

 

I got the exact opposite impression from the event.

 

I could be wrong but I need to hear reasons.

Good afternoon folks, im popping in to answer this. Sili fakes being upset as a wolf because town him would do it. However, town sili wont have any regard for himself as he does so, where the real sili has some regard for the fact that he is indeed important to keep around. This, btw, is something he has said before about himself. So, in addition to detesting AtE in play on premise alone, I simply dont think it was warranted here and I dont think that he meant it, based on his efforts.

 

Tldr he look fake