Avatar The Last Airbender Town and SK wins!

[Ithillian Turambar]

I have asked for the reasoning behind the snow votes.

 

So not quite just saying I'm right @ aj

 

You're so snippy in the way you post sometimes. It's like you got a pointy stick lol

[seph]

If I remember right it was a big argument.

Off my head he has not contributed to solving this game.

 

He dropped his case from me entirely. Unvoted me.

made a case while contradicting alot of things he said.

 

Have found posts scummy. Off my head is his reads list, and a post about having a plea bargain deal.

 

I have also found he seems to be falling back on alot of comments with its just a joke. And he is not putting in spoiler tags for me.

the spoiler part was a joke

 

[seph]

You could get a better idea if you found them, but this is from the top of my head dor you.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

 

For those who care. It's almost 9 PM. I've been up since 5.30. I get home from work after six. Make tea. Do homework. Make swords. Read stories. Put do bed. Wait for silence. Do laundry. Wash pots. Pick up toys. And finally it's this time of night and I have about an hour before I sleep.

It's well known I'm usually not available till this time. AJ seeks to use my prioritising of home life as something negative no doubt.

Yeah, we get it. You have a life outside of MafIa. Most of us do.

You're here now. Is there anything you want to say besides "I think I'm right" ?

You're the one who implied I was silent for other reasons. I was correcting your misperception - especially as when I did post as soon as I was able you also made another post that seemed to imply I'd only popped up because I'd been mentioned.

I wasn't implying anything when you popped up. I just found it ironic hence my ironic comment. You didn't need to go and spell out your entire schedule for us and throw in the little snippet about your home life at the end.

 

Anyway - have you even read the thread since you last posted?

I read that that a new train has appeared on snow and asked why.

[Sooh]

I find it very difficult to believe anyone is town is what I actually said.

 

I start with everyone is mafia.

 

Very gradually I may start to trust some players. The only player I've thought is probably town so far is tress. I have said this several times.

 

Not sure why you'd re - angle my post like that.

It's not a question of re-angling anything. I just find it strange. I also find it strange that nothing has happened to make you start leaning town on anyone yet, or perhaps you just choose not to say. 

 

 

Also Tress? You have Ithi as your most suspicious but no vote?

Read my post. I said why I wasn't voting.

 

Ah yes! Duh! Sorry. Missed that bit. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

If I remember right it was a big argument.

Off my head he has not contributed to solving this game.

 

He dropped his case from me entirely. Unvoted me.

made a case while contradicting alot of things he said.

 

Have found posts scummy. Off my head is his reads list, and a post about having a plea bargain deal.

 

I have also found he seems to be falling back on alot of comments with its just a joke. And he is not putting in spoiler tags for me.

the spoiler part was a joke

 

There's a word for you seph and it is 'git' lol

 

Wasn't he doing the posting while thinking. Voting. Saying he'd got it wrong. Saying oh crap I was right. Voting again.

 

That didn't seem like a planned thing. For one thing it drew attention to him. Of course it could have been a carefully scripted series of posts.

 

But now I'm wondering if that was snow ...

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

I find it very difficult to believe anyone is town is what I actually said.

 

I start with everyone is mafia.

 

Very gradually I may start to trust some players. The only player I've thought is probably town so far is tress. I have said this several times.

 

Not sure why you'd re - angle my post like that.

It's not a question of re-angling anything. I just find it strange. I also find it strange that nothing has happened to make you start leaning town on anyone yet, or perhaps you just choose not to say.

 

Also Tress? You have Ithi as your most suspicious but no vote?

Read my post. I said why I wasn't voting.

Ah yes! Duh! Sorry. Missed that bit.

I said in the post that you actually quoted that the only person so far I think may be town is tress and that I've mentioned that a few times.

 

Why do you keep saying I've not said that.

[Turin Turambar]

btw the fact that you're still voting AJ just further proves my point.

How can you say I'm your #1 suspect while you're voting someone else.

Doesn't make any sense.

Once again yiu have misrepped. Look at the original. Read the section properly.I am talking about your interaction with AJ as most troubling. It is all one paragraph. Not two.

try again...

 

 

Maybe you should be bussing AJ.

[Sooh]

**snip**

 

I said in the post that you actually quoted that the only person so far I think may be town is tress and that I've mentioned that a few times.

 

Why do you keep saying I've not said that.

 

Ok yes, Tress is town. On that much we agree. 

[Andrej]

I have asked for the reasoning behind the snow votes.

 

So not quite just saying I'm right @ aj

 

You're so snippy in the way you post sometimes. It's like you got a pointy stick lol

 

I think you just have a tendency of bringing out my... snippyness

 

Not saying that as a personal knock against you, I just think we are too similar in some ways to not rub each other the wrong way in these types of games. I recognize the fault in myself as well. I'm very loud mouthed and opinionated and stubborn/hardheaded sometimes, and without being offensive, I would say you are as well. Two big fish don't do well sharing the small pond, you know?

[Songstress]

Irony. Ithi and I appear to be polar opposites this game. She's having a hard time reading anyone as town except for me, and I'm having a hard time reading anyone as mafia except for her.

[Nolder]

 

btw the fact that you're still voting AJ just further proves my point.

How can you say I'm your #1 suspect while you're voting someone else.

Doesn't make any sense.

Once again yiu have misrepped. Look at the original. Read the section properly.I am talking about your interaction with AJ as most troubling. It is all one paragraph. Not two.

try again...

 

 

Maybe you should be bussing AJ.

I already went over the entire post and explained why I think the context was irrelevant.

If you want to cry misrep (is that all you do?) why don't you explain how the context is relevant?

I'm not going over the post again. I just did it.

[seph]

I am having a hard time keeping up. Im out with the fiancee. Dinner and a movie with 35 percent bat life.

 

If I am going to change my mind and vote it needs to be soon..

[Kaylee]

A little over two hours til deadline

[Andrej]

Really the only thing I think that looked townie from Snow thus far was his little flip flop last night - but landing on the same result anyway doesn't change much especially after I made note of how his progression of Seph was extremely poor after voting him initially within the first 5-10 pages of the game.

[Andrej]

 

 

btw the fact that you're still voting AJ just further proves my point.

How can you say I'm your #1 suspect while you're voting someone else.

Doesn't make any sense.

Once again yiu have misrepped. Look at the original. Read the section properly.I am talking about your interaction with AJ as most troubling. It is all one paragraph. Not two.

try again...

 

 

Maybe you should be bussing AJ.

 

I already went over the entire post and explained why I think the context was irrelevant.

If you want to cry misrep (is that all you do?) why don't you explain how the context is relevant?

I'm not going over the post again. I just did it.

 

Turin was saying he thinks my most suspicious interaction was with you.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I was thinking it was weird that Turin wad voting aj when Nolder s post seems to clearly say Turin thinks Nolder is the most suspicious. I had a very close look at it because ... well Turin is Turin lol

 

 

 

 

The one I am most suspicious of currently is with Nolder.

Haha what?

How can you be this obvious?

You weren't even talking about me until I came in and voted you and now I'm #1 suspect?

What happened to John Snow? Now suddenly it's me, AJ, and maybe Notbob?

Another misrep by snipping out the context. The line above what you quoted talks about convos AJ had that I saw w/w potential in. At least I am pretty sure of that. On mobile so can't verify. If that group yours was and is the most troubling.

 

I'm still voting AJ if that means anything to you.

You're really going to argue that I'm misrepping you by taking the quote out of context?

Ok let's go over the context.

 

Here's the full quote.

I did case tress and vote her early. I left my vote there because she hadn't done anything to cause me to remove it. She was gone for some time. The first post she came back with was explaining her crankiness due to hormonal issues(her words). I have never known her to play about her RL when stuff comes up so I didn't push her. I figured she would reply when ready. Not really much yet but I am being patient.

 

You will note that one of the things that perked my ears if you will about tress was her banter with ... Wait for it... AJ. That suspicion was on both of them. AJ has had other similar incidents during the game. The one I am most suspicious of currently is with Nolder. There was some small convo and AJ immediately puts Nolder as a green read. He lowers Nolder on his published read list for being inactive but doesn't include Nolder in the let's lynch pool. Now he is giving credit to Nolder for being clever and noting something(I assume the false connection Nolder made between me and NotBob) that is a misrep.

 

You yourself noted how he pushed himself as lock clear. anyone trying to proclaim themself lick clear sets my teeth on edge. When it happened I was still distracted with Ithi so I didn't bring it up but I did note it. you also note his Seph defense. AJ admits he doesn't know Seph from Adam. This is the first game they have played together. I don't see going from suspect to solid town in this case was genuine. There were lots of little defenses along the way. I think these were intended as AJ would have seen Seph as lynchbait but more valuable to make himself look good in the long run.

 

Right now I think mafia are AJ, Nolder. Not sure of the third yeT.

 

if both of them are then I would look at NotBob on the chance Nolder slipped.

Now let's go over it.

 

I did case tress and vote her early. I left my vote there because she hadn't done anything to cause me to remove it. She was gone for some time. The first post she came back with was explaining her crankiness due to hormonal issues(her words). I have never known her to play about her RL when stuff comes up so I didn't push her. I figured she would reply when ready. Not really much yet but I am being patient.

None of this has to do with me or the point I'm focusing on which is that you're supposedly most suspicious of me. So I snipped it.

 

You will note that one of the things that perked my ears if you will about tress was her banter with ... Wait for it... AJ. That suspicion was on both of them. AJ has had other similar incidents during the game.

This next bit has to do with Tress and AJ. Again, nothing to do with me.

 

The one I am most suspicious of currently is with Nolder. There was some small convo and AJ immediately puts Nolder as a green read. He lowers Nolder on his published read list for being inactive but doesn't include Nolder in the let's lynch pool. Now he is giving credit to Nolder for being clever and noting something(I assume the false connection Nolder made between me and NotBob) that is a misrep.

Here is the exact quote in it's proper place in context. Do the sentences that follow add anything? I don't think so. The point is that you're suspicious of me. We get that from the first sentence. I don't care why you say you're suspicious of me which is all this is. Something about how AJ is giving me credit (that's my fault how? How does that make me scummy again?) over a misrep. All that matters here is that you're saying you are most suspicious of me. I could of course go over why it is and try to refute that but the fact of the matter is, again, I don't care why. You are so suddenly suspicious of me that it is that suddenness which is my point, not the reasons you try to justify it with.

 

You yourself noted how he pushed himself as lock clear. anyone trying to proclaim themself lick clear sets my teeth on edge. When it happened I was still distracted with Ithi so I didn't bring it up but I did note it. you also note his Seph defense. AJ admits he doesn't know Seph from Adam. This is the first game they have played together. I don't see going from suspect to solid town in this case was genuine. There were lots of little defenses along the way. I think these were intended as AJ would have seen Seph as lynchbait but more valuable to make himself look good in the long run.

This is again all about AJ not me. One might take from this that you're lying about me being your number 1 suspect and that you're just saying that.

 

Right now I think mafia are AJ, Nolder. Not sure of the third yeT.

 

if both of them are then I would look at NotBob on the chance Nolder slipped.

And here's where you tie it all up saying you think it's me AJ and maybe Notbob but we already established that you think it's me from the sentence that I originally cut out.

 

So why don't you explain what context you think was missing and how it added anything because I'm not seeing it which is exactly why I cut out all this nonsense in the first place.

Nolder I think you read a sentence with the wrong emphasis.

 

Turin says aj has had similar incidents and the one he is most suspicious of is the one where aj talks about you a lot.

 

The way you snipped the quote and edited it makes it look like Turin said he was most suspicious of you. Whereas it was the aj discussion of you he seemed to find suspicious.

 

I'm not keen that you seemed to have made that edit on purpose to make it seem like Turin has you as most suspicious but is voting aj.

 

Perhaps you just saw your own name mentioned a lot and read it wrong because of that or perhaps you are trying to provide cover for aj by making Turin's vote look bad.

[Andrej]

Turin I should also advise you that if you are basing your suspicions on other players based on the certainty that I am mafia that 1) you should make sure I'm dead first to actually confirm this theory and 2) prepare to reevaluate your gameplan afterwards.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

I have asked for the reasoning behind the snow votes.

 

So not quite just saying I'm right @ aj

 

You're so snippy in the way you post sometimes. It's like you got a pointy stick lol

I think you just have a tendency of bringing out my... snippyness

 

Not saying that as a personal knock against you, I just think we are too similar in some ways to not rub each other the wrong way in these types of games. I recognize the fault in myself as well. I'm very loud mouthed and opinionated and stubborn/hardheaded sometimes, and without being offensive, I would say you are as well. Two big fish don't do well sharing the small pond, you know?

I'm not a big fish. That vote was rigged

[Nolder]

He's saying I took him out of context.

I went over the context and explained why I don't think it's relevant.

He's telling me it's still out of context and that the context matters so I asked him to explain why the context matters.

I don't see what's wrong with that.

[Nolder]

That last post was to AJ.

[Nolder]

Oh...

[Ithillian Turambar]

Irony. Ithi and I appear to be polar opposites this game. She's having a hard time reading anyone as town except for me, and I'm having a hard time reading anyone as mafia except for her.

Feel free to keep at it. Maybe I'll see day two for once lol

[Nolder]

I just read Ithis post and read it all again.

 

And now I feel like an idiot.

This is the second time recently that I've badly misread something and made a big deal out of nothing.

 

I see what he's saying now.

He's saying that he's suspicious of AJ for X, Y and Z. And maybe X was his interaction with me and Turin finds X most suspicious.

Not that he finds ME most suspicious.

 

I read that completely the wrong way.

[Sooh]

Guys, I keep losing connection. Sometimes for a minute, sometimes it could be hours. If I miss the DL I'm sorry.. just know it's not for lack of trying... *growls at computer*