Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

[Turin Turambar]

Why? It didn't stop you yesterday.

[csarmi]

Hush you.

[csarmi]

You'll scare her away.

[Lenlo]

Why? It didn't stop you yesterday.

+1

 

All is forgiven.

[csarmi]

Forgiven

Not forgotten

[Lenlo]

Forgiven

Not forgotten

Are you an elephant?!

[csarmi]

I just like Corrs.

[Hayl3y]

lol my reasoning : brace yourself

 

so i take into account the thing that i am less experienced than you all and also very lazy at heart.

this make me think that all people who are constructing that oracle thingy thingy are all meanies.

 

Then there's the fact that people don't like me saying that i read Thane as town... but those people don't say anything about Turin clearing Ithi...

bizarre don't you think ?

 

the new Dice for me is town so far. Usually relaxed Dice is town. Xthrax said things that  i was thinking, and i wouldn't see scum people putting their neck in danger so far for me.

Len is mafia because i said so in the beginning. for me his game is too clean...  and he doesn't want to believe that i am just a weird bad player.

Turin is mafia for me because Csarmi said so... also there were already some suspicons that i voiced before.

Tina is town for me so far. I have seen nothing bad.

Despo is mafia for me because he's centering himself way to much on some players.

Hallia is town so far, because i think i can believe her claim.

Chae is town... that is a certainty

Ithi is town, because i believe her claim and i think that she plays like her town self

Thane is town, i'm sure at 99,99 % because i say to

Tsuki is mafia or he's just jealous of my hair. He 's wayyy too much on my back for sillinesses

BFG is town because i can't see things i could say against her

Pral is town for the same reason

Csarmi is town because i believe his claim

 

 

 

now sheeping me is maybe not the best idea ever... as i said i'm not the best player around lol

[Hayl3y]

and tsuki, u'll just give me that wee list ? i thought u'd go a bit further and give me some awesome material to read ...

[Hallia]

I feel much better about Chae now, good reads that for the most part coincide with mine

[Lenlo]

lol my reasoning : brace yourself

 

so i take into account the thing that i am less experienced than you all and also very lazy at heart.

this make me think that all people who are constructing that oracle thingy thingy are all meanies.

 

Then there's the fact that people don't like me saying that i read Thane as town... but those people don't say anything about Turin clearing Ithi...

bizarre don't you think ?

 

the new Dice for me is town so far. Usually relaxed Dice is town. Xthrax said things that  i was thinking, and i wouldn't see scum people putting their neck in danger so far for me.

Len is mafia because i said so in the beginning. for me his game is too clean...  and he doesn't want to believe that i am just a weird bad player.

Turin is mafia for me because Csarmi said so... also there were already some suspicons that i voiced before.

Tina is town for me so far. I have seen nothing bad.

Despo is mafia for me because he's centering himself way to much on some players.

Hallia is town so far, because i think i can believe her claim.

Chae is town... that is a certainty

Ithi is town, because i believe her claim and i think that she plays like her town self

Thane is town, i'm sure at 99,99 % because i say to

Tsuki is mafia or he's just jealous of my hair. He 's wayyy too much on my back for sillinesses

BFG is town because i can't see things i could say against her

Pral is town for the same reason

Csarmi is town because i believe his claim

 

 

 

now sheeping me is maybe not the best idea ever... as i said i'm not the best player around lol

I like how alot of your reads are cause you say so. Its the same reasoning Des uses! :P

[Lenlo]

I feel much better about Chae now, good reads that for the most part coincide with mine

Are you serious? The alignments alone coincide with yours, the reasoning and thought behind them are... non existent. I honestly dont know how you can think it a good list.

[Hayl3y]

c'mon i have tried to put my heart into it -.-

[csarmi]

Chae, can you elaborate on Despo?

[Lenlo]

c'mon i have tried to put my heart into it -.-

I has heart, ill give you that.

 

Kali ma!

[hazelkrs1]

lol my reasoning : brace yourself

 

so i take into account the thing that i am less experienced than you all and also very lazy at heart.

this make me think that all people who are constructing that oracle thingy thingy are all meanies.

 

Then there's the fact that people don't like me saying that i read Thane as town... but those people don't say anything about Turin clearing Ithi...

bizarre don't you think ?

 

the new Dice for me is town so far. Usually relaxed Dice is town. Xthrax said things that i was thinking, and i wouldn't see scum people putting their neck in danger so far for me.

Len is mafia because i said so in the beginning. for me his game is too clean... and he doesn't want to believe that i am just a weird bad player.

Turin is mafia for me because Csarmi said so... also there were already some suspicons that i voiced before.

Tina is town for me so far. I have seen nothing bad.

Despo is mafia for me because he's centering himself way to much on some players.

Hallia is town so far, because i think i can believe her claim.

Chae is town... that is a certainty

Ithi is town, because i believe her claim and i think that she plays like her town self

Thane is town, i'm sure at 99,99 % because i say to

Tsuki is mafia or he's just jealous of my hair. He 's wayyy too much on my back for sillinesses

BFG is town because i can't see things i could say against her

Pral is town for the same reason

Csarmi is town because i believe his claim

 

 

 

now sheeping me is maybe not the best idea ever... as i said i'm not the best player around lol

This might be the worst reads list I have ever seen. I just don't even know where to begin...

 

Chae, YOU'RE the one who made a big stink about setup talk and talking about an oracle type role. No one else did that, it was all YOU. Especially considering it was in defense of Thane, who claimed VT, yeah it was unbelievably scummy. Saying those who found you scummy for it are "meanyheads" is just ridonkulous. I think you're going all cutesy talk to make yourself seem more innocent.

 

The reasoning behind your reads is absolutely atrocious. It just looks like you made just about everything up on the spot. You think Turin is scum cause Csarmi said so? You think Lenlo is scummy for being too clean, but that BFG looks town for the same reason? You think I'm scum for "centering too much on some players", even tho I'm aggressive in every single mafia game I play?

 

When I see that much arbitrary reasoning in a reads post like that, it only solidifies the scum read I have on you. Also didn't like how you said you might replace out, either do it or dont- discussing the possibility just looks like a scummy ploy to me.

 

I also didn't like Pray coming to Hallia's defense, a scum Governor would be powerful but who knows what town has to counter that and other scum roles.... Its freaking role madness. Seems really silly to game the mod in such an environment. Either way I have seen very little to make me think Hallia could actually be town this game. Everything about the way she claimed yesterday looks scummeriffic to me.

 

Tina's response was meh. Just kinda rolled over and agreed that she was fence-sitting. Don't think she would lie about RL tho, so I'm starting to think she might just be distracted or something this game. Chae and Hallia pushing for her lynch does come into play for me however.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I shook the Magic 8-ball...

 

Vote Thrax/Dice 2.0

 

Thoughts?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Vote Thrax/Dice 2.0

[Tsukibana]

lol my reasoning : brace yourself

 

Tsuki is mafia or he's just jealous of my hair. He 's wayyy too much on my back for sillinesses

 

 

This is reasoning?? Your HAIR??? WTF.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Vote count:

 

Chae (2): Tsuki, Len

Hally (1): Turin

Thane (2): Des, Dice

Tina (2): pral, hally

Len (1): Che

Thrice (1): 鲍勃不是我的

 

Not voting (5): Ithi, Tina, BFG, Csarmi, Thane

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Sun. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

[Turin Turambar]

Thrice, LOL.

 

X was questionable. I still think hallia is most likely for mafia ATM.

 

Des why you wanna shelve her for the day?

[Tsukibana]

@ tsuki: it was not early morning here when i posted -.-

 

... but i will rephrase : so far, i think csarmi is telling the truth, and him claiming early doesn't look suspicious to me.

 

 

i may be dumb but i don't know the difference between "he could tell the truth" and "he could be telling the truth" ... for me it is the same

 

@ Tsuki : now about that last game with csarmi, i didn't believe him and it had been a bad move. We talked about it after, and i tend to believe he wouldn't fake claim. that is why i didn't react when it was said he's lock clear.

and for Ithi as i said, the fact that she voted Thane doesn't prove the fact she's lock clear imo

 

@ x: i'd say mafia could fake claim Miller to escape being lynched and to explain bad night action results.

 

 

@ Thane : why do you think Tina is mafia ? she had almost not posted when u wrote that.

 

 

I think Ithi's post here is interesting : it looks like she's teaming with him Turin. X should not be ok with Turin post... but Ithi is not saying anything to Turin.

@ Ithi, are you ok with some half assed parrotting ? if not, why didn't u react towards turin ?

 

 

@ Tsuki you is being mean and aggressive

 

you are using stuff about my english, when everybody knows that i talk french in the first place.

building a case on this is sooo big, that i'll say you are town, for now

 

Otherwise, i think that Lenlo stays shallow ... and not really committal. [v] Len [/v]

 

I note that Charis promised us read and .. well nothing came yet.

 

Dawn appeared and noted only the fact that Csarmi claimed early but said nothing else...

 

X made a nice job at defending me. so nice, that i find it a bit suspicious. Also i see a lot of info about his schedule and what he's doing, etc. Makes me think he wants to give excuses.

 

 

No my town reads are so far :

 

Tsuki, Ithi, Dice, Csarmi

I'd say Thane too with the nuance that i m asking myself some questions. See up.

 

For Neutral i'd say X and Turin

 

And i'll keep my vote on Lenlo. I think that he's only commenting on the game, giving opinions but not really putting his hands in the dirt.

 

 

@ Tsuki ; i defend people when i think that they deserve it.

 

In this case, i do think Thane is not mafia... i hope i can read him well. If i am wrong, then i will refuse to cook him steaks next time he demands it. Period.

 

 

now : can someone answer my question ?

is it possible for someone as town or third party to have ideas about other people roles ?

 

 

Even with the battle 1 vs 1 going on, i still want to post my overal reads, as i had finally had the time today.

 

Thrax - a lot of defense. I'll say that he's neutral for me, as he's defending people i have on my town read list, for things i can understand. Now, besides him defending others, i didn't really have scum read list from him.

Len - Scum lean. As I said, it took him time to get active and take stances. He made 1 case but not a full list of reads. Also, I think his post 67 had a lot in common with what Despo said on his post 64. Then the what? when BFG claimed, looks a bit overdone.

Mynd - Scum lean too. I think that his catch up post 172 looks also like the 64 and 67. Then there's that sentence : Dice! Stop reading my MYND and posting my thoughts before I get to!!!!!! about Thane's PM content. It makes me think about buddying. I agree with Ithi's opinion on his reasoning about Thane : first he says Ithi has a weak case then votes him then he votes Thane. Strangely i noticed that he came up with the idea that Thane could have a more valuable role than VT but no one said anything. Which is strange, because when i enquired about Thane's possible, some players reacted thinking i was trying to convince everybody he was an oracle  ...

I also noted him parrotting csarmi on 220, and being ok with the idea of lynching town on 229.

When Ithi is posting about his alignement, he counterattacks saying she must be scum. He has not given any full reads, same as Len. and he's very concentrated on some players only.

 

Tina - too early to tell.

Turin - neutral. Same as Ithi, he's quite active, building cases. I tend to agree with some of his reasonings. But i noted that he's clearing Ithi and defended her  tone on post 208. I find it astonishing that people note the fact that i believe Thane is town but that no one says anything about Turin clearing Ithi. He made some votes, unexplained, Ithi didn't really asked him about this but asked questions to the voteed.

Despo - neutral leaning scum.  Locks clear people for no explanations first csarmi and ithi, then ithi turin and tsuki. I didn't really see his reasoning. Very friendly with Mynd says he needs to catch up with his game blah blah. then gently chastise him.  No full reads either.

Hally - no stance at first, but it is usual for her playstyle. Gives town reads more than scum reads... i'd say neutral.

BFG - neutral? she claimed and people tend to believe her claim fastly. Says Ithi has a tunnel vision but i don't think she played differently than her town self.

 

?Dawn?/replacement - neutral even though her catch up post mentions csarmi early claim but nothing else of what was going on with Thane.

 

Thane, Ithi, Tsuki, Dice, Csarmi - town reads

 

[unvote] Len

 

[v] Mynd [/v]

 

 

Oh it seems that people have missed me lol

 

well be reassured i am back but maybe not for long: i need to see how much work i will have during the week end and maybe i'll need to be replaced.

 

I would like to thank some of you for thinking that i am that devious ... about that oracle thingy. But I have no intention on claiming that role for me nor for Thane, and i think he says the truth when he says he's a VT. I asked a general question, like i was advised to do by my mentor in another game. YES I confess it... i never go on mafia wikis

 

Now, my LD list

 

Xtrax replaced by Dice is town

Len is mafia [v] Len [/v] because i am that woolheaded lol (see i show u some love)

Mynd was town, my bad

Turin is mafia

Tina is town

Despo is mafia

Hallia is town

Chae is town

Ithi is town

Thane is town

Tsuki is mafia

Dice was town, like i thought

BFG is town

Pral is town

Csarmi is town

 

 

now tsuki, could you make reads about everybody

i'd looooove to read that

 

 

lol my reasoning : brace yourself

 

so i take into account the thing that i am less experienced than you all and also very lazy at heart.

this make me think that all people who are constructing that oracle thingy thingy are all meanies.

 

Then there's the fact that people don't like me saying that i read Thane as town... but those people don't say anything about Turin clearing Ithi...

bizarre don't you think ?

 

the new Dice for me is town so far. Usually relaxed Dice is town. Xthrax said things that  i was thinking, and i wouldn't see scum people putting their neck in danger so far for me.

Len is mafia because i said so in the beginning. for me his game is too clean...  and he doesn't want to believe that i am just a weird bad player.

Turin is mafia for me because Csarmi said so... also there were already some suspicons that i voiced before.

Tina is town for me so far. I have seen nothing bad.

Despo is mafia for me because he's centering himself way to much on some players.

Hallia is town so far, because i think i can believe her claim.

Chae is town... that is a certainty

Ithi is town, because i believe her claim and i think that she plays like her town self

Thane is town, i'm sure at 99,99 % because i say to

Tsuki is mafia or he's just jealous of my hair. He 's wayyy too much on my back for sillinesses

BFG is town because i can't see things i could say against her

Pral is town for the same reason

Csarmi is town because i believe his claim

 

 

 

now sheeping me is maybe not the best idea ever... as i said i'm not the best player around lol

 

 

and tsuki, u'll just give me that wee list ? i thought u'd go a bit further and give me some awesome material to read ...

 

 

Every post you even mentioned my name in - Town... Town... Town... Town... MAFIA?? Because of Hair and "sillinesses" (WTF, are you 12??)

 

Can we put a cap in her, please? Oh, yes, It can't be just because she calls me scum... Hold on, BRB

[Tsukibana]

 

last time i played mafia with csarmi, he claimed town very early and got lynched very fast for it

he could tell the truth here

 

otherwise, isn't it a bit early to have Ithi as a lock clear ?

 

Early support of CS' claim... If Chae dies, so does he.

 

*waves back* 

 

Would Thane be someone else, i'd probably vote him.

But Thane is Thane and he has his very "special" way to play. For the moment i have to say that he sounds relaxed and chatty... which makes me think he could be town.

Ithi has made a nice case, but as I said, Thane has his way to play.

 

Defense of Thane Begins... "Ithi makes a nice case, but I'm gonna completely shrug it off"

 

@ Pralaya: isn't it dangerous to claim PR so early. Doesn't that make you a target for nightkills ?

 

as for Thane: i am stating what i think. Seeing his usual gameplay, there's not enough material to make me want to vote against him.

 

"Oh noes, Pral, youz claimed, aren't you a-scared??"

More defense of Thane...

 

 

@ Tsuki : now about that last game with csarmi, i didn't believe him and it had been a bad move. We talked about it after, and i tend to believe he wouldn't fake claim. that is why i didn't react when it was said he's lock clear.

and for Ithi as i said, the fact that she voted Thane doesn't prove the fact she's lock clear imo

 

 

"CS would never claim false... see how I didn't believe him last game? Avoid my mistakes, all you Townies..."

 

guys, is it possible for thane to have a role that would allow him to have info about the game settings ?

 

 

because he doesn't answer to your question about what was in his PM

 

and because of the info he looked to have here v

 

So, i'm here and will comment a bit:

 

Yes Ithi, i was at work, i have notifications but no DM access.

 

someone missed me joking, so here it is: Dammit Csarmi, you ruined my groove and now i can't claim Miller anymore! *shakefist*
 
And, i am not scum, i haven't even been provided with a PR... i'm a plain townie. So much for Role madness.... or they got afraid i might vig townies again like in my last game (whoa, another joke!) I do believe Role madness here would indicate at least one JOAT on each side, mafia definately with a GF, and one (perhaps 2) third party/parties.
 
I love the attention, but for scum we need to look elsewhere.... i have a crazy theory, but i'll need to investigate that before i put it out. I do think however that one of the lurkers (at least one) is scum hiding for the moment. eeny meeny miny mo... random guess Tina, but i could be wrong... it's still D1 and we need some of the lurkers to post here to get some reads.

 

My view on the X-files: i think X would be more worried if his train got bigger. What i see here is townies going after eachother, no real mafia in there...

 

Ithi is town, from what i can tell. So are the people 'defending' me, from my pov.

 

and now, seeing i hurt my back last weekend, i will go to bed soon

 

 

see red ... is it possible to have a kind of townie or third party with info about the roles we all have ?

 

And the Oracle seeds are sown... No one ever told me if there exists a direct counter to an Oracle...

 

@ Tsuki ; i defend people when i think that they deserve it.

 

In this case, i do think Thane is not mafia... i hope i can read him well. If i am wrong, then i will refuse to cook him steaks next time he demands it. Period.

 

 

now : can someone answer my question ? 

is it possible for someone as town or third party to have ideas about other people roles ?

 

Cause Thane deserves it, cause he is YOUR PARTNER.

Can a town or third party who claimed VT on day ONE have ideas about other peoples roles?????

 

i have no idea what oracle is (so if someone can explain it could be nice)

 

and for now beside Lenlo, i don"t have "scum" reads.

 

I pointed stuff that i found weird but it is not enough for me to tell that those people are scum. I gave town reads a couple of posts ago. People who are not read as being town for me are suspicious.

 

Now she claims to have NO IDEA what an Oracle is, despite it being the answer to her previous questions about setup O.O

 

Tsuzuku (TBC)....

[Tsukibana]

 

bondee, u are trusting me ? 

 

WTF?? (She asked Cs, who later Sheeps her vote)

 

and for the number of VT i think that we should expect the unexpected ... i think that Basel could have made a very special set up.

 

What is up with all the Set-up talk - Defense of THANE noted.

 

 

To those of you playing mafia, I ask you this:  does the reason Ithi and Turin came at me make any sense?

 

If you believe that both of us are town, then it would be a smarter move to lynch Ithi because you still have Turin, one half of this two-slotted hydra.  If you believe me to be scum just because I disagreed with Irene Adler's role and alignment in this game, then lynch me. 

 

Here is the thing.  I feel like many of you are ignoring how blown out of proportion they made this whole thing.  How blindly the came at me and why?  Sure, maybe the gladiator thing wasn't as good a call as I thought at the time, but I trusted the mafia game instincts of the rest of you to see what this was.  If I was wrong about that, then I don't know what else to say.

 

I have stated my character and alignment.  I have given my reasons for the Gladiator thing.  I have TWICE reposted my reasons for voting thane and doubting his claims.  The guy QUIT BTW and voted himself.  Do you remember that?  IS that a town thing to do?

 

well Thane was really pissed off. I think that his decision to vote himself was made because he was very frustrated not to be believed.

 

now for the character claims, i still remember how csarmi and I randomized the characters and the roles in HHGG  ... i guess we are not the only crazy people who like to surprise the players.

 

 

Voting yourself is fine, I've done it before - throwing a tantrum and leaving is NOT.

ZOMG!!! STOP ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW THE SETUP CLEARS THANE!!!!

 

 

And the remainder are "cute talk" null posts, with an obvious skim (asking me to post my reads less than 2 pages after I did so), half-assed list with no reasons, then BS reasons, and more jokes...

[Tsukibana]

READS:

Hallia is Scum

Thane is Scum

CSarmi is Scum

Chaelca is Scum

Pralaya is Scum

 

I will revise that list only if Chaels flips Town.