[Advanced] Red Wedding Mafia - Post Game, MakersMark

[Tommyrod]

 

AORN I think Red > Dawn >> Mish

 

I havent seen this one before?  wanna explain tommy?

 

 

I liked Mish's response to me. Since then I've noted Tress's post that had a list of reads that all seemed to revolve around Wombat being scum. Just kinda watching them for now. Sup witchu?

[dawnflower8]

only thing stopping me voting Red is her claim and what i found about the character when i googled it.

 

Not like Mish's "why arnt people looking at Tress thing" but if she was mafia     and cant be a lone mafia head   then it makes no sense to point out tress like that

 

 

@Dawn  cause its what i believe based on having seen you in a few games now. Its called Meta. This behaviour has been fairly consistant for you so far. you were different in the witches game which is why u got caught fast.

 

Also those are ALL up for constant evaluation.if i catch a tommy mafia sign i will be straight on him for example.

I wasn't exactly "caught" in the Witch game. I got a soupkill wrong so the admin told you I was a witch. 

[Tommyrod]

 

 

I'm gonna need you to explain this a bit further. Why the switch from Red to Mishtress? Quotes are explanations would work best for me, thx.

 

 

Because Cloud's case is good.  Mish changed her story to suit her fake active purposes.  First, she was too tired to catch up, but then she wasn't.

 

Red is definitely scummy imo, but a lot of the things she's taking heat for are things she does as town too.  For instance, the whole argument with Yates is irrelevant.  It's something Red would have done as town or scum imo.  She picks little things and doesn't let them go.

 

I don't like Red's claim at all, but I don't think we should just let Mishtress slide by either.

 

^ THIS!

 

If this is still the Red I know, then she likes to swing from the feces fences especially when vanilla town.

 

Gonna eat my chilli cheese fries while catching up.  I have a feeling that one of the mafia have already revealed themselves with their own posts.

 

Does this mean you're going 180 on Red now? 

[Tommyrod]

 

I'm SmallJon Umber and i'm a bodygaurd.

Well we have no one for you to BG for and if we let you go and you're legit you'll most likely be dead tonight anyway.

I think I'd rather lynch you and test the claim than let you walk. Besides, I think it's BS anyway.

You've been flailing ever since Tom got on your case.

 

Keeping my vote where it is.

 

 

Before that 

[Tommyrod]

yes darthe i know   rolls eyes    now that the memefest is over i will play too.

 

 

so far i am reading

 

cory/aj town

 

tommy town (thats unusual)

 

leaning town on dawn

 

question about hydras. Can one head be mafia and one head town?

 

World is ending 

[Tommyrod]

 

Jack_D calling me Mafia

 

this will end well

You've played smooth. But I will go back and read on my way home tomorrow and analyze your half of the hydra.

 

Seriously lol'd

[Tommyrod]

Honestly, I don't see how anyone can have either a scum or town read on me at this point.

I'd appreciate if you tried to explain what you mean by this

[Tommyrod]

 

Also, very shortly after I pointed out the hypocrisy in Mish basing a scum read on Des on a meta read from a tiny sample, Tress came with her trumped up case on me. That reads completely disingenuous to me. It's like they realized on their QT that I had a good point against Mish and then they had to rush to get a case on me. But they used Tress to make the case because she's been taking heat for low content. But her case was bad anyway.

Please darlin'.

 

I wasn't casing. You've seen me case. You'll know when I'm actually casing.

 

I was throwing a few reads out there before I had to leave for work (and was 10 minutes late because of it) and didn't have time to get into detail.

 

Still at work, so my time and internet access is limited.

 

I'm not particularly "rustled" as the cool kids say at the thought of being the D1 lynch. Someone has to be, after all, and it won't hurt my feelings if it's me.

 

Still think you're mafia, and if it will give you the warm fuzzies I'll get into details later.

 

 

Please do 

[Tommyrod]

 

Would love to see you expound on that, Jack.

In the most recent game that I've played with you you expanded on your overt love for early distancing. Your posts with red can be classified as distancing.

 

So I'm just saying. Your getting a little jumpy at the suggestion. Looks like i may have hit a nerve.

 

Blech

[dawnflower8]

 

Honestly, I don't see how anyone can have either a scum or town read on me at this point.

I'd appreciate if you tried to explain what you mean by this

 

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

[Hallia]

Why would you be surprised?

 

 

Your play is strangely erratic, and some things have been just downright scummy, one being totally willing to just hop on a train because other people are voting it.  Do you merely agree with their reasoning or are you looking for an easy lynch? Normally it's seem as sketchy.

[Myndrunner]

Having some annoying computer issues this morning - monitor on my desktop is old and dying, and wouldn't turn on at all this morning (at least hasn't in almost 3 hours of waiting for it)... Laptop hasn't been turned on in a couple of months and needed updates and now wants me to reboot like now if not sooner.  Made some notes in our Hydra QT so I can reference them from whichever computer (or my phone) later on.

 

Copy/pasting quick hits on the happenings that have stood out to me, without a full re-read or a batch of ISOs a lot of people will be left out for sheer "I don't remember" value... have to get ready for work after this so the next 10 hours my ability to respond will be limited.

 

2. Desbat (Wombat/Des) - Leaning mafia... Wombat started out voting Red, then nudged trains on both Red/Mish,then soft defended Mish against Cloud, called Cloud's reasoning bad, then sheeped Cloud's vote. Also not fond of his decision to extend the D1 noob pass to Dawn's 5th game. Right now I'm reading it as mafia deciding to defend someone who is likely to be lynched at some point and flip town. Want to vote here.

 

3. Nolbat

 

4. Krak

5. MegaLoud (Amega/Cloud) - I can see Cloud as potentially mafia. Would like to see a DesBat flip before gong that route.

 

6. Crayjay (Cory/Andrej) - gut says town lean, I haven't seen anything yet that stands out as suspicious.

 

7. Lenlo

 

8. X - Null, I didn't read the opening post as anything significant.

 

9. Dawn - I think her confusion is probably genuine enough, but she does need to learn to start taking a stand. Being wrong doesn't mean you're mafia. Avoiding giving opinions on others does read like mafia. Gut tells me she's town, because I think ScumBat is more likely to defend her as town than as a teammate.

 

10. Jack

 

11. Princess Verbalina of Kindelbury (Verb/Tina)

 

12. Halleeloujah (Leelou/Hally)

 

13. Dice

 

14. Zanube

 

15. Red - Likes to nitpick/overblow small things to make cases throughout the game. I usually have a hard time seeing her as town because I can't tell if she's misinterpreting things as scum tells or intentionally misrepresenting them. I've rarely played with her as mafia but I do recall one game, and it took a long time to figure it out. If DesBat is mafia, then Red is probably town.

 

16. Nyankat (Nyn/Kat) - I read Nyn as genuine so far, slight town lean.

 

17. Mynd - likes to nitpick/overblow small things to start cases and get games started. Typically will jump on others who follow along with his weak case. Waiting to see where he goes next since the train he started has grown substantially, and Red is a competing train.

 

18. Tommy - getting a town gut read on him. If mafia I think it'll be obvious later as he plays town leader and leads everyone right off the cliff.

 

19. Yates - Claimed Tytos Blackwood, VT - apparent gamestarter joke, he's a bold player and not afraid to draw attention to himself as mafia. Null read, will re-evaluate later.

 

##unvote

##vote DesBat

 

 

That crazy font....looks a lot like it came from a QT......

[Yates]

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

Hi, I'm Yates. Who are you?

[Andrej]

Mynd - a couple of your last statements give me the vibe you really aren't paying attention.

 

For one, Red claimed BG. How does that fit with how you view her game as a VT?

 

Secondly, Tress and Mish are a hydra. Meaning they have a QT to chat in.

[amegakure]

gosh i've got alot to catch up on.. from what i can tell red is bg and still has some votes going her way thats odd. Im sure there's alot more but i just skimmed abit. Dead tired, will probably have to wait for tomorrow for any real motivation in this direction. 

 

Mynd i'm in agreement with aj. It literally say's she copied it from her qt. What's with the weak sauce your slinging?

[amegakure]

 

 

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

 

 

Dawn you should expect your self to be viewed as scum from day 1 to think otherwise is a fantasy. Why are you trying to divert attention from yourself. If you are town your play will speak the truth. 

[dawnflower8]

 

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

Hi, I'm Yates. Who are you?

 

Hi Yates, I'm Dawn.

[dawnflower8]

 

 

 

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

 

 

Dawn you should expect your self to be viewed as scum from day 1 to think otherwise is a fantasy. Why are you trying to divert attention from yourself. If you are town your play will speak the truth. 

 

A lot of players automatically think I'm town though, too.

[Hallia]

Why did you skip my address to you Dawn?

[Myndrunner]

Alright, caught up.  Apologize for being a bit absent.  It's been a while since I've used the multiquote deal, but I love it. 

 

Also,  I'm assuming that HYDRA means that two players are one in the game.  So they both play as whatever they are? and YES AJ that apparently explains the QT to chat in, thank you so much for swooping in to Mishtress' defense. 

 

What I meant by my comment about Red is this - Red plays a lot like me.  Vanilla Town is my favorite role because I can really shake things up with little risk to the town if I get whacked.  I once claimed to be a VIG and even had players vote in the thread on the three players they thought I should shoot that night.  Of course, my fire arrows would never hit the boat because they didn't exist, but it did cause a lot of discussion and got the mafia frazzled.

 

I wouldn't put it past Red to claim to have a big gun whether she really does or not.  Come on, we've all "embellished" the size of our guns once in a while, even the ladies. I think Red, like I typically do, is beating the grass to startle the snakes.  Could be wrong but I think TressMIsh is a better target this day.

 

Anyways....here we go!

 

Lazy play and bad cases from somewhat experienced players?  Probscum.

Lazy play? no.  Real Life does happen.   Could be scum or town.

 

Bad cases?  No excuses.  Likely a guilty conscience.  Probscum.

 

What I wanna know, is why did this get overlooked?

 

 

I can't really tell if she seems scummy or not, actually. 

 

But somebody else did vote her before me, so I guess she is? Maybe? I'm not sure yet.

 

 

This seems like the a pretty awful excuse for voting someone.

This is only my second game playing with Dawn and I cannot comment on the first as it is not over yet. 

 

I WILL say that this statement here reads like "Hey guys, someone voted before I did, so that makes my vote ok, right? Please don't figure out that I am scum."  Overcompensation is a sign of SCUM. 

 

Do you guys like Chris Hemsworth movies?

Because I could really go for some Red/Dawn right now

*snort*

 

 

 

 

Jack_D calling me Mafia

this will end well

You've played smooth. But I will go back and read on my way home tomorrow and analyze your half of the hydra.

 

Seriously lol'd

 

 

JackD   -  Lynch Now, Case Later. 

[Nolder]

Mynd - a couple of your last statements give me the vibe you really aren't paying attention.

 

For one, Red claimed BG. How does that fit with how you view her game as a VT?

 

Secondly, Tress and Mish are a hydra. Meaning they have a QT to chat in.

DONT WORRY

IT DOESN'T EFFECT THE GAME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM

100% CONFIRMED

[Songstress]

 

 

Having some annoying computer issues this morning - monitor on my desktop is old and dying, and wouldn't turn on at all this morning (at least hasn't in almost 3 hours of waiting for it)... Laptop hasn't been turned on in a couple of months and needed updates and now wants me to reboot like now if not sooner. Made some notes in our Hydra QT so I can reference them from whichever computer (or my phone) later on.

 

Copy/pasting quick hits on the happenings that have stood out to me ... <rest of quote snipped for brevity>

That crazy font....looks a lot like it came from a QT......

I wonder why.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

 

 

I'm surprised there are any players reading me as anything other than null.

 

 

Dawn you should expect your self to be viewed as scum from day 1 to think otherwise is a fantasy. Why are you trying to divert attention from yourself. If you are town your play will speak the truth. 

 

A lot of players automatically think I'm town though, too.

 

 

@Dawn.  I am totally serious, but I just have to know so that I can appropriately case your posts and logic.....and to make sure I have the appropriate level of sarcasm and ridicule that I am about to give you. 

 

How old are you?

[Myndrunner]

 

 

Having some annoying computer issues this morning - monitor on my desktop is old and dying, and wouldn't turn on at all this morning (at least hasn't in almost 3 hours of waiting for it)... Laptop hasn't been turned on in a couple of months and needed updates and now wants me to reboot like now if not sooner. Made some notes in our Hydra QT so I can reference them from whichever computer (or my phone) later on.

 

Copy/pasting quick hits on the happenings that have stood out to me ... <rest of quote snipped for brevity>

That crazy font....looks a lot like it came from a QT......

I wonder why.

 

Hydra....QTs....two girls/one cup player.  Got it. 

 

Now, please 'splain your other half's floundering. 

[Darthe]

 

Mynd - a couple of your last statements give me the vibe you really aren't paying attention.

 

For one, Red claimed BG. How does that fit with how you view her game as a VT?

 

Secondly, Tress and Mish are a hydra. Meaning they have a QT to chat in.

DONT WORRY

IT DOESN'T EFFECT THE GAME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM

100% CONFIRMED

 

Can confirm.  Cambridge did a psychological study on it not three years back.  No discernible effect or affect.