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Chae, I compare thee to a Mafia's day?

Thou art more deadly and more chilling.

Rough winds do shake the hessian noose at play,

And deadline's lease hath all too short a date.

Sometime too hot the eye of Ithi shines,

And often is her pale complexion dimmed;

And every Night the moonlight sometime declines,

By chance, or nature's changing course, untrimmed;

But Chae's eternal evil shall not fade,

Nor lose possession of that darkness thou ow'st,

Nor shall death brag release thou from her shade,

When in eternal lines of dead thread thou post.

So long as players can breathe, or eyes can see,

So long lives Chae, and this gives Mafia to thee.

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  On 3/30/2014 at 5:33 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 5:32 PM, Turin Turambar said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 5:29 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 5:28 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Yes. we won't be able to move but we will be  protected. A huge cocoon of silk.

will you come out as a butterfly? and if so, in what colors?

 

Midnight Blue of course

 

AHA! MIDNIGHT blue... so you are active during the night.... i knew it... scum... mwuahaha

 

LOL, such fine logic, Not. 

Posted

Ok so I went through the thread twice thinking there were more read lists, but only 2. Let's see what we have here.

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 4:34 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

Personal thoughts so far:

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) and YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal): had the feeling something was going on between the two of them. Their little struggle ceased (for the moment) and now there's interaction between WiFum and Evil Siblings. Most active hydra around, questioning, probing, getting information.

 

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) expect to see more when the weekend is done. Interesting posts to read.

J-TAG (AJ, TG): not enough to form an opinion, null read.

PFG (Pralaya, BFG): Not a huge amount of posts, but the ones i read seem to be well thought of.

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) lots of fun and games, but i'd like to have some real input for once. Backing Amega in the vote against them

Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) Uncommented votes, absence? Not feeling too great about them. Waiting for a train to pass and jump on?

CRUNK (Monk, CoryCurren) not around, and if, then unserious posting, lurking in the shadows? Didn't have a good explanation from them on their vote. Might as well be waiting on the same train.

Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) not around enough to form an opinion, null read

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) Little drama in the beginning of the game, then things calmed down. Maybe also because of the weekend.

Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) Had a little thing going on between them and myself. Gett he feeling it was more probing and questioning than anything else. Questioning, after all, is good.

 

Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) I'm not going to comment on my own hydra. Yes, you are. NO, i'm NOT! *drowns inner voices in belgian beer*

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) going for an easy lynch when voting against us i think.

 

So basically, Straw Hats think:

 

Town:

 

StawHats

PFG

 

Scum:

 

RTL

HaXorz

 

Null:

 

JTAG

Spliffanity

 

This is it. The rest are basically null reads as well, or he refrains from making any firm alignment-based comments on.

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 6:34 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Random thoughts on teams so far...

 

#swag:(verb/Des); verb reacted a bit much to my vote being the second on him. he was even kinda snippy at the MOD about the voting rules there. trying to flip it back on me is bogus. Despo has been talking a bunch of mess so far so without anything to aleviate the bad I am putting them in the mafia stack.

 

J-TAG(AJ/TG): been fairly quiet in a loud way. hope they bring some actual content soon.

 

PFG (Pral/BFG): All Fluff. Expect more soon. 

 

RTL (RTE/Lenlo): Lenlo being very mormal jokey self. RTE comments are a little pingy. starting with the game spec just before day started and ending with his reactions to Ithi questioning his nudge. Ithi thinks is likely mafia so I can agree, even if I rather vote Verb/Des ATM

 

SS (Tina/Leelou) : the vote back and forth between #swag and clarthe was odd. As is the fact that Leelou basically is not giving any reasons for her votes. People that don't want to give reasons have a reason for that. It makes it easier to backtrack from a position that was never really stated. Her defense of Verb/Des was completely for non-game reasons "they are so cute". It is basically a non-reason which seems to be a trend. Leaning mafia here ATM.

 

Crunk (Cory/Monk): Cory is following his #alliance theme that he used as 3rd party in the star wars game. Basically having given his vote to his buddies V/D. Bad look to me. Monk has been quiet for the most part only really engaging in saying hello to Lily that I recall. I expect more from someone calling themselves GOAT.(maybe it is in lurking)

 

Spliffanity (Krak/Dap): Don't really remember very much about them except they picked the wrong name, LOL. Oh, they were in the cloud pile on too. Did they vote Clarthe?

 

Clarthe (Darthe/CLoud): Darhte says Lily is mafia in his first post, never votes her. Also says verb is obvtown. rubbish. Has overridden Cloud's #swag vote to vote RTL.   Cloud has caught a bunch of heat for asking for a reason from Leelou for her vote on them. Lots of people taking that opportunity to pile on him. Seems more an issue of why Leelou not want to explain her reason for voting. If is no reason or was for reaction then say so and let people judge it for what it is worth. I do find it ironic that CLoud chose to call me frantic when that is a word that most would be applying to him for the way he is about Leelou. Personally I didn't see it that way which makes it perhaps even more ironic.

 

Evil Sibs (Jack/Lily) placeholder vote of #11 by Jack after Lily telegraphed it during night. Lily had something odd but I will need to go back and check. Jack playing very much like I just saw him in the hunger games? game I think. He did nudge very professionally tho so I will defer to Ithi's judgement there. 

 

Straw Hats (Amega/Thane) Amega pre voted #swag during night but never followed up with it. In fact he asked me a question about wether I really think they are mafia or if I was just brash. (the answer is both, lol) the double nudge post from Thane has me thinking that they could well be mafia and on a team with verb/des. bears very much further watching.

 

HaXorz (Hallia/X) : Not enough to go on. maybe once X gets back and if Hallia does get more involved. 

 

Mafia to town

Verb/Des

Tina/Leelou

Amega/Thane

RTE/Lenlo

Cory/Monk

Krak/Dap

Jack/Lily

AJ/TG

CLoud/Darthe

Hallia/X

BFG/Pral

Ithi/Turin

 

Town:

Himself with Ithi

 

Scum:

 

#Swag

RTL

SS

StrawHats

 

Null:

 

The rest?

 

So I was hoping to see a pattern here (and thought there was at least a third reads list, but not much of one. These will be interesting if we get a flip on either team though. While Turin refrains from saying he thinks anyone is town outright, he does provide the scum to town list.

 

Of the two lists, I do find Thane's less informative and much more fence-sitting in the language he is using. Also says he doesn't want to speak for Amega in an attempt to not further elaborate? As of yet hasn't answered Ithi's request to rank teams based on scummyness. I would be interested to see his list as his reads seem indecisive. Turin has less town reads it seems but looks confident about his scum reads. Problem is a lot of people haven't made enough game-content posts to make much of them, so can't really make too much of the numerous null reads.

 

So now I'll try to make a reads list, hopefully better than some of my recent ones, although this game has been a bit all over the place and gameplay has been interrupted quite a bit more than usual IMO.

 

WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - Very, very aggressive. Ithi is on her game while Turin is still on his "new meta". Seems he lets Ithi be Churchill the bulldog and he's more like.. France? Interesting dynamic between the two of them in terms of types of posting. Turin deferring to Ithi in some instances and if I had to guess she would be the one wearing the pants in this hydra. Ithi  playing her normal unforgiving game. Solid town read right now. Problem is if any team can have as solid a scum game as town game I would pick them with Despo/Verbal second. But right now I'm definitely going with Town.

 

YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - A bit quiet as of late, which between the two of them is very odd. Not really making a splash yet really, which I really find bizarre given the two of them. Weekend has killed most activity but these two are usually fairly more vocal and strong with their convictions. So far looks town to me but not very sure about them. Both of them will likely give us a lot more to work with come tomorrow.

 

J-TAG (AJ, TG) - AJ has been pretty quiet and TG, while relatively active, hasn't given much of substance. Null read here.

 

PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - BFG is much quieter this game than in a recent one. I'll attribute it to the weekend but if it doesn't change I'll look here. Pral is usually more in the fray of things too but again pretty absent. Going with a null read here thus far but this is a hydra to watch.

 

Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - RTL are (is?) town.

 

Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) - Feels like the ladies are buying time after some not so pretty play. I feel like the strategy here is "If we don't post long enough people will forget the things we did that look really scummy". Not fond of the voting then poofing. Scum lean on these two. Should expect a lot more from these two and so far they've been holding out. Their next posts will be very telling.

 

CRUNK (Monk, CoryCurren) - These two confuse the hell out of me personally. Haven't played with either of them and can't make much of their posts. Don't remember anything  meaningful about their game thus far. Their bark is much bigger than their bite right now and if they are as great as they claim to be they need to put their money where their mouths are. Null read.

 

Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Really oddly quiet given who these two people are. Come back to the light guys. Null. Really need to hear more from these  guys.

 

Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - I have trouble reading Cloud because Cloud plays a very reactive game. Caught a lot of flak for how he reacted to the vote against him but that is his usual attitude. That being said, he hasn't looked great since either. Darthe is Darthe. What you see is what you get. And that isn't much at all. Scum lean right now.

 

Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) - Lily is another one I struggle with. She didn't react great to Ithi pressure but I wouldn't have reacted very differently to be honest. Not sure what to make of Jack. Supposed to be some mafia pro but haven't really seen it yet. If anything I think the interaction with Ithi and Turin makes Lily town. She was frustrated rather than angry, and that's understandable when you're town with Ithi breathing down your neck. I'm going with a town read.

 

Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) - Haven't liked Amega's play really thus far. Not a lot of content behind his posts or his votes. Thane has given us a lot more to work with. His list is a little less decisive than I would have liked but it's tough with activity being what it is the last couple of days. His somewhat exclusive town lean on

 

PFG is interesting. Something to bear in mind if we get a flip on either of them. Only other hydra other than their own they seemed to believe was town. Going with a null read right now.

 

HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - I trusted Hallia too much last game and won't make the same mistake. She has been playing as usual but I don't like the absences. I agree with Thane that her vote was a fairly easy one. Eager to have X back and see what he has to say. And for Hallia to get back in here.

 

Scum to Town

 

SS

Clarthe

#YOLO

Haxorz

J-Tag

PFG

Crunk

Spliffanity

Strawhats

EvilSiblings

WiFum

RTL

 

Latest Vote Count:

 

Vote Count - 1.04

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
 
CRUNK (1) - YoloHashSwag
YoloHashSwag (3) - Clarthe, WiFuM, J-TAG
Clarthe (3) - Spliffanity, Sexy Sisters, Evil Siblings
Evil Siblings (1) - Straw Hats
J-TAG (1) - RTL
 
not voting : PFG, HaXorz, CRUNK

 

I feel like a lot of these votes here have still been rather "easy" votes. Which is a bit worrisome as we approach deadline. We still have time though and most importantly a lot more time for people to come in and give their reads and support their votes.

 

##Vote SexySisters

 

Edit: Formatting

Posted

Sorry that I haven't been around much. I'm a bit busy making lunch with my lady before she goes to work, but once she's gone for the evening I'll be able to sit down and dig into this game properly.

 

The vote on Verbothera is a legit one. I did not find Despo's entrance very good (with the LOCK CLEAR and gif/img spam) nor did I like Verb's defense early on.

 

Didn't find Pral's entrance very moving either. Scum lean in that direction.

 

Leaning town on Clarthe and WiFuM from what I remember.

 

Reads will be updated once I have read through properly, but for now that's what I've got from what I remember.

Posted
  On 3/30/2014 at 5:12 AM, csarmi said:

Vote Count - 1.09

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

YoloHashSwag (1) - J-TAG

Clarthe (1) - Spliffanity

J-TAG (1) - RTL

Straw Hats (3) - Clarthe, HaXorz, WIFUM

WiFuM (3) - YoloHashSwag, Sexy Sisters, CRUNK

HaXorz (1) - Evil Siblings

RTL (1) - Straw Hats

Sexy Sisters (1) - PFG

 

not voting : -

 

Deadline: Deadline-D1

 

Please note that we have switched to daylight saving. Hopefully everywhere by now. The deadline is 59 hours and 48 minutes from now.

this is last official VC

Posted

So we still have about 48 hours before DL? That's plenty of time.

 

I'm gonna go for now but I'll be back later once I've dropped my lady off at work.

Posted
  On 3/30/2014 at 6:38 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

It was my interpretation of your reads for each team (not based on your scum to town list).

 

Thanks for the VC correction.

fair enough.

no worries

Posted
  On 3/30/2014 at 6:49 PM, Turin Turambar said:

make him wear it Chae!!!    :myrddraal:  :laugh:

 

And people say I'm a meany head.

 

 

Ahem ... I mean - It's a very nice siggy. I don't see anything funny about it at all :laugh:

Posted
  On 3/30/2014 at 4:44 PM, Ithillian said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 4:43 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

but.. i want chocolate... :sad:

 

And, true, i am indeed cautious. Personally, i'd like to discuss what Amega thinks to see if we're on the same line before giving out numbers and reads.

But these are YOUR thoughts and feelings.

 

Why would you need them checking?

 

You want to make sure all the numbers add up?

 

 

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 4:53 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

this would be a lot easier without the hydra thing....

 

*gets the feeling he is being trapped into making classic n00b mistakes*

 

oh.. and.. are you going to make a meme for everything? :happy:

 

 

Thane Vakarian is a sorry man, fights only to lose

Sells a thimble, quick and nimble, Chaelca turns him to booze

Thane oh Thane, his own hydras bane, found himself stuck to the roots

fell into Ithillians trap and now is left to this ruse

 

##Vote Thane

Posted

Back! And ready to read! You see how serious this unicorn is? Hes really serious! Now if only I was.

 

But yeah so im back and going to reread.

Posted

Leelou has problem getting on. Her internet isn´t working all the time. 

 

We had a short talk earlier. Our reads doesn´t match very good. Leelou´s vote on Wifom was based on Des´s case since she agreed with him. 

 

I´m very unsure about Wifum. Turin´s "case" on Verbal was very Des like. Taking anything and making up a case around it. And then never letting it go. It´s clear that Ithi and Turin misunderstood Lily but if it was on purpose or not I don´t know. That is the scummy parts. At the same time, Ithi is behaving like town Ithi. Not that I remember playing with mafia Ithi in a very long time but this is how she played in Darthe´s game. I thought that she might on to something with Straw Hats and Evil Siblings but... so yeh, can´t say town or mafia. 

 

I´m not fond of Straw Hat´s game. In short - following others, ,fencesitting, the Hally/Lily mix up. 

 

Actually, I find this hydra thing very hard. Not just because Leelou and I have different reads and that we haven´t been able to communicate much due to internet problems, but also because I can get different feelings from the different hydra heads. 

 

For now. 

 

 

## Vote Straw Hats

 

 

I´ll see what Leelou has to say when she gets back on. She is clearly the better player so I rely on her reads. 

Posted

 

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So, usually I hate these sort of long winded airbag posts that people make (this is an RTE quote in the above spoilers) but this time I recommend people read this one.  I would love if anyone could point out a significantly valuable anything that was contributed to the game here.  Maybe you can't.  Can you point out a read that you agree with?  No?  Well what about the vote?  Conflicts with his scum reads?  Internally it doesn't appear to but it does when you examine that his representation of peoples' play is either a failure to read or comprehend the material.  External consistency does not equate to the evaluation given above, which is a fancy way of saying that he doesn't believe his own statements.

 

We can lynch him after removing Straw Hat McGee

Posted
  On 3/30/2014 at 7:34 PM, TinaHel said:

 

I´ll see what Leelou has to say when she gets back on. She is clearly the better player so I rely on her reads. 

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