[Basic] The Circle Mafia - Game over

[Darthe]

Yes we know there's a VC like five posts up. Gosh

 

 

 

 

 

[dicetosser1]

Tommy wanted to vote cloud but couldnt find Bold on mobile. about 2 pages back i think

[dicetosser1]

and Tommy   the Des and Ishy opinions?  thats not meta  thats experience...experience getting burned.

 

ask around see if anyone can read cloud. you wont get many saying yes. he usually gets lynched D2 or so town or not

[michellem]

Ugh I'll count it for now.

[keyholder21]

Good question. I'm thinking Kaylee.

 

I'd still like to know who Tom is thinking of when he says "central hub". But here's the problem with lynching Kaylee to figure anything out:  Kaylee has been, like, Ishy said, fencesitting the entire game.  She's been wavering on her views of nearly everyone and for that, everyone has been wavering in their views of her.  Tbh, I'm probably the best bet for figuring things out if you want to go this route.  I'll even vote for myself - I don't think the rules said anything about that not being allowed -  if this is the way people want to go.  

 

and Tommy   the Des and Ishy opinions?  thats not meta  thats experience...experience getting burned.

 

ask around see if anyone can read cloud. you wont get many saying yes. he usually gets lynched D2 or so town or not

 

Bold:  What do you mean by this?  Are you saying that absolutely everything they say is true because they are experienced?  

[keyholder21]

Oh, shiz.  I just went back and checked.  She does say we can't vote for ourselves.  Still, I'm behind it if you guys need to lynch me to figure things out. 

[keyholder21]

FTR, obviously I would prefer to make it to end game as I've put A LOT of effort into this game.  But I understand the confusion that's going on and figure I am probably one of the most central hubs.

[Luciena]

All of that is just another example of the Kay-Luci lovefest I mentioned earlier. All it's lacking is Key putting her two cents in.

 

Staged.

You got staged from me defending myself?  Explain yourself more please. 

 

 

All of that is just another example of the Kay-Luci lovefest I mentioned earlier. All it's lacking is Key putting her two cents in.

 

Staged.

 

Are you saying the mafia is Key-Luci-Kay?

 

 

He's not saying anything, he's kind of throwing suspicions out there and leaving it to others to make up their mind on what he means by it. His posts so fare are merely suggestions on who what when and where.

 

Luci everyone else was commenting on ure Dice comment and not Dice cause Dice was at work. I got the joke at the start. Hence me playing too. I can see why people questioned you choice of words but to me it was as obvious a joke as voting the mod D1.

 

Kaylee I did say it. I thought she was stretching with her arguments on Golden.

 

My reads

 

Kaylee is town

 

Luci is town

 

These 2 are because if they had a QT they woulda got suggestions at various times about their posts and changed some things.

 

I think Darthe may be the Survivor. Yes his behaviour is = to that of bored Darthe  but its also a ghood way to stay unlynched.

 

Ishy and Des fall into the  "I never trust them unless I cop viewed them myself and then I assume they are the GF" category Ishy hasnt said a lot and while Des seems town to me he has sucked me in too many times for trust.

 

Cloud ALWAYS seems scummy     to me and everyone else. The only time i got a bead on Cloud i was the Oracle and he was my lover.

 

I think Key is mafia. hence the vote

 

Tommy im not sure on at all, tho i get way luci voted him.

 

Krak...jumped a vote straight on me with what? his second post?  yet has no reason. leaning mafia on him but only cause of that   he hasnt done anything for anyone to see otherwise

I know you were working, I did not mean that you should have commented on it. I know you understood that it was a joke. What I meant was that you believed me, but others got so hung up on that one post, that it got blown out of proportion.

 

 

And I disagree with it meaning GE was town. Steppi g out has no bearing on alignment. Scum players can get just as mad and sub out, regardless whether their scummates try to calm them down. If you notice, there's not a lot of time between his posts where he's here and then has asked for a sub. It's entirely possible f he is scum, that he didn't even go to the QT until after he asked for one. Town players and mafia players alike get upset and ask for a sub. Heck, could have even been because he thought there was no way out of looking scummy.

 

I agree with Key. Mafia will do whatever they can to win a game, so you should never make the mistake of thinking in the lines of "mafia wouldn't do that" because a good player would do just that what you don't expect him to do.

 

Scum reads: Key (obvious), Dice, Cloud, Luci

 

Feels like Cloud hasn't posted in a while btw. Cloud, what are your thoughts on all the players still alive?

 

Kaylee: I had a scum read on her for the majority of the game so far. Golden voting for her at the start of Day 2 made me started to doubt my read on her, but it was probably a vote to distance from each other. It would also explain why he had a town read on her during Day 1, and later on claimed that he was reading her as scum. I also think her case on Key was weak and it's interesting how she suddenly thinks she is Mafia while she has also been following her around since Day 1.

 

Hallu: No idea. He hasn't posted much of anything.

 

Ishy: I always have a difficult time reading him because he has a tendency to not explain his reads, and when he does they are also quite brief. I tend to have a town read on him, but I disagree with his reads about Key and Luci so I'm still on the fence about him.

 

Key: She made a couple questionable moves, but she has been actively scumhunting and I happen to agree with a lot of her posts, and I especially like her play since Day 2. I have a town read on her.

 

Tom: Nice catch-up posts. I haven't played with him before, but so far he looks pretty townie to me.

 

Dice: I have found his play to be questionable. He has been voting for people with in my opinion thin reasonings in mind, and even though he just posted a list with his thoughts on each player it doesn't really tell me anything about his thought process which I find scummy.

 

Cloud: Town.

 

Darthe: Dunno. He doesn't seem very interested in this game. I agree with his vote on Kaylee though.

 

Luci: I have a newbie Town read on her. Things like her vote on Tom because she thinks he slipped up and admitted to be Mafia give me a feeling that she isn't faking her reads.

 

Krak: Replaced Golden who I had a scum read because of his contradicting statements and his vote on AJ. Scum read.

 

Des: Town read. His play has been a bit more sloppy then when he's mafia, as can be seen in his casing of AJ where he kept misreading stuff. He also been fluffing around a bit more than usual but this doesn't really say much.

 

 

So I could go for Kay, Krak, and Dice. I'm still unsure about Ishy and Darthe. Hallu should be replaced, policy lynched or modkilled if she isn't willing to play anymore.

 

 

Unvote. Vote Kay

 

 

 

Cloud's post seems reasonable on the surface but is shallow if you dig into it.

 

First paragraph is about mafia WIFOM -- whatever.

 

Second implies that Kaylee couldn't change her mind about Key... I think her Kaylee's thought process has been pretty transparent in this game. I can go back and look for Kaylee's thoughts on Key, but I agree that Key is hella suspicious so this isn't a point against Kaylee. It is a point against Cloud for making a really flat argument at this point in the game, though. You should have more on the person you're voting than "Kaylee changed her mind."

 

The rest of it tells us almost nothing. "Town lean, scum lean, I always thought XYZ was scum," etc.

 

Most notably, though, are the people he doesn't suspect:

Darthe [No]

Key [No]

Luci [He claims a noob town read; is Luci a noob? I will have to re-assess if so]

Des [i agree]

But he's got suspicion of basically everyone else. This many players with only 3 town leans and 1 "I dunno, LOL DARTHE?"

 

Doubt it. Sounds more like keeping his options open for mislynching. Who else did that? Oh yeah, Luci.

 

Cloud/Luci/Darthe team is possible if Dice is very inexperienced or always seems scummy in these games.

 

Yes Luci is a "Noob" as you say it. (I do not like that word by the way, I have told many of my kids off for using it. Please do not use it again. Thank you)

Luci being brand new only supports my Luci/Dice scum team theory because Luci at the moment she told Dice to stop being fluffy or whatever had pretty much zero reason to be thinking about Dice or tell him to contribute

 

Cloud/Dice connection is apparent in their big useless mislynch option lists and they both thought Luci is town iirc

 

You're grasping at straws mate. You are hung up on me, get over it. Just because Dice and Cloud agree with me being town doesn't mean that I am their "team mate" as you say.  It seems to me you don't like me. Anyone that comments on me being town or disagreeing with you at some point, you end up saying they are protecting me and are trying to link them to me.   

*sigh*

 

This made me laugh. Thanks Cloud 

 

[michellem]

Hallu has been replaced by Lily. All votes on and by Hallu will be removed.

[LilyElizabeth]

Hi guys! *blows a kiss to Ishy* 

 

I'll get caught up as soon as I can. I'm only partway into day one, and it looks like this is an interesting game already. 

[Kaylee]

Welcome Lily

[Kaylee]

like the way Ishy and Darthe throw out ideas, when they do, yet don't back it up with a vote. Darthe has been cheerleading for my lynch yet hasn't voted me.

 

Key's willingness to be the lynch makes me think she's more likely town. Darthe and Ishy I'd see be willing to switch to. Still not sure on Cloud.

[Kaylee]

Let's make a decision soon though as deadline is getting closer.

[michellem]

Official Vote Count:

Key (1): Des, Dice
Dice (1): Krak
Cloud (2): Kaylee, Tom
Tom (1): Luci
Kaylee (1): Cloud




With 11 alive, 6 is needed to achieve a lynch.
Not Voting (5): Ishy, Key, Dice, Darthe, Lily

Deadline 2am Saturday GMT+1 http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131214T02&p0=1375&msg=End+of+D2

 

24 hours until deadline :)

[Darthe]

Didn't I vote you at some point?

[LilyElizabeth]

I admit I haven't read the whole game yet, but from what I have read, I'm leaning town on Ishy and Des and scum on Cloud and Kaylee. For now, I'm going to put a vote out there on Kay, but I might come back and change it as I read more. 

 

Vote Kaylee

[michellem]

Like I said Darthe, all votes on and by replacements are removed.

[Kaylee]

Didn't I vote you at some point?

Possibly, don't remember. What I do remember is recently you wanting me lynched without voting.

[Krakalakachkn]

Hammer in my hand. Giggity.

 

That has to be a euphamism somehow.

 

 

 

Luci is howling 

Said the boy who cried wolf

 

 

That was pretty good.

 

My reads

 

Kaylee is town

 

Luci is town

 

These 2 are because if they had a QT they woulda got suggestions at various times about their posts and changed some things.

 

I think Darthe may be the Survivor. Yes his behaviour is = to that of bored Darthe  but its also a ghood way to stay unlynched.

 

Ishy and Des fall into the  "I never trust them unless I cop viewed them myself and then I assume they are the GF" category Ishy hasnt said a lot and while Des seems town to me he has sucked me in too many times for trust.

 

Cloud ALWAYS seems scummy     to me and everyone else. The only time i got a bead on Cloud i was the Oracle and he was my lover.

 

I think Key is mafia. hence the vote

 

Tommy im not sure on at all, tho i get way luci voted him.

 

Krak...jumped a vote straight on me with what? his second post?  yet has no reason. leaning mafia on him but only cause of that   he hasnt done anything for anyone to see otherwise

 

This post is useless and solidifies my vote for the moment.

[hazelkrs1]

Key offering herself up for the lynch = again, obvious scum. More to respond to on her case on me and stuff, will do so later.

 

But Dice and Cloud both meta defending each other (they've both said the other is always scummy) pings heavily. Cloud does get lynched D1 a lot, but he HAS been scummy this game (and has a strong town read on Key, that should tell you something). Dice lurks most games. Again, doesn't change the fact he HAS been scummy this game.

 

I also don't like how Kay and Key keep alternating between defending each other and going after the other. Kay is either scum with Key or way too all over the place as town, needs to not be so reactive (seems like she changes her mind after every thoughtful post from someone).

 

Luci is whymefrymeing way too much lately, is only concerned with defending herself. Also ducked what I said about her.

 

Darthe is meh. Still not that helpful but I don't see many connections between him and others. Could be a Survivor or apathetic townie.

 

Lynch Key, and the rest will fall neatly behind. Feel good about my read on her.

[John E. Kelley]

like the way Ishy and Darthe throw out ideas, when they do, yet don't back it up with a vote. Darthe has been cheerleading for my lynch yet hasn't voted me.

Key's willingness to be the lynch makes me think she's more likely town. Darthe and Ishy I'd see be willing to switch to. Still not sure on Cloud.

Pot. Meet. Kettle. You've called me scummy since D1, so has Key. And other than a joke vote, have either of you voted me even once? Hypocrite.

[John E. Kelley]

And hi Lilybonded. :)

[hazelkrs1]

Welcome Lily

[Krakalakachkn]

Key's willingness to be the lynch makes me think she's more likely town.

This makes me think Kaylee is town.

[Kaylee]

Yes Ishy, your right. I think your scum. I also think Cloud is scum which is why I'm voting him. If I had a second vote, or people willing to lynch you I'd happily switch as I've said before.