[Basic] Die Hard for Mafia Game Thread

[Pralaya]

I thought when you claim a role it was supposed to be your real one? Hence the belief that Darthe was the Vig.

Or you Csarmi being the Doc. I believed you as well or you don't take that into account? 

 

From now on I will take it into consideration that everyone is lying. 

 

 

Yes, everyone can lie. That is the whole point :)

However, the thing is there would be only one doc. And, usually all games has a doc. So, if Csarmi claims doc and if he is lying, then the real doc might counter him and you would get to know that he is lying, That nobody has countered him so far, is why everybody believes he is the real doc and town.

 

Similarly with vig. Most probably he is the vig - however, there could be a possibility that there is no vig or the actual vig doesnt want to reveal himself.

[csarmi]

No, Luci. People can lie about roles just as much. Except that lies about roles are usually much harder to get away with.

[michellem]

Long rambly nighttime post. I'm too tired to make it neat, sorry. I'm gonna start off by Vote AJ. In a lot of ways he's my second biggest scum read, the biggest is Pral (coming up to that), but I'm fine with either now, and AJ already has 3 votes, sooo... Yeah.

Dice played a bad game indeed. I do know that his daughter is very ill, so it didn't suprise me how bad his game was; I'm more suprised he signs up for games at all now, his game has been lacking in all the games I've seen him in lately, RL coming in his way, mafia or town. I'm vanilla, to have that out of the way.

Before I got to the part where Darthe claimed vig, I was wondering if Cloud got killed to remove Pral from the equation; those two were neck and neck D1. I'm wondering if they were trying for a "we'll remove Pral from suspicion if we kill Cloud, because it would be really stupid to kill Cloud when he and Pral are so tightly connected by their back and forth ". I'm still wondering if the mafia took a shot at Cloud too. I see that as more logical than Csarmi, if Pral is mafia, wich is my biggest suspect, with AJ in second place. Why Pral? Because he was so close to getting run up, and then it switched over to someone who ended up as a mafia goon. Would make sense for the cop to view Pral during the night because of that. And then D2 he puts what I think was the first vote on AJ? He's already mentioned that "we" (in other words: me, I was driving that game, but he paid attention) used the "bussig a teammate to earn town cred" recently. I feel like he's doing that with AJ now, whom I also have a huge ping from. So that + his ignoring Peace's "pre-game-information" but still voted the same person, a person NotBob voted too. And a bunch of other things I don't remember right now because it's over 2am and I'm tired as heck. So this is a bit rambly as you guys have probably already noticed. Oh, just remembered, Andrej evened out Bob's and Pral's trains D1, Prals was bigger untilAJ came on. Oh and this sevtion about Pral doesn't make sense right now, because I think I forgot to mention that most of tihs is based on the belief that he's the Godfather.



I believe Csarmi's and Darthes claims, town read on Peace and Kaylee, unsure on Dap, Luci, Len and scum read on Pral, AJ.

 

 

So, we've got Cloud discrediting Pral further while voting for Peace. (Peace never said he'd believe any role on D1, just that he believed Pral's, btw. That's an important detail that you're misrepresenting here.)
 
At this point, these are the associations that I see.
 
Cloud and Kaylee are against NotBob's train. Cloud through his interference by going after Peace and now arguing with Dap. Kaylee more subtle with first the unvote that gained some attention and then revoting Pral to even out the trains.
 
Peace wants to lynch NotBob over Pral on the basis that he believes Pral's VT claim. Why NotBob, Peace? I don't remember you actually making a case on him before.
 
vote NotBob
 
At this point, with NotBob having the most votes and this close to DL, I think he should be our lynch. If he flips scum then I think Cloud and/or Kaylee are his teammates.

 
This post from AJ gives me a headache. Setting up lynches for tomorrow, and now he's voting Bob for having most votes anc close to deadline, when apparantly AJ had him pegged as scum from his first post. Se below.
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

I'm voting Lenlo cause he's my best choice for scum.

Lol, yeah. Lynch this one.

 

Is there a reason you didn't grab this quote as well? It was directly on the same page.

@Kaylee - I had NB listed as a scum read from the get go. I think the reasons were glaringly obvious so I didn't state them. I unvoted him to question both because he was at L-2 and I was trying to avoid a quick pile up in case my suspicions were wrong. You yourself contributed to how quickly he was hammered after I revoted him.

 

I know I did, now I'm glad as he was scum. I had my work vote in there as well to be looked at. I was quoting the votes with the reasons listed. I used the ones you had with the votes themselves. What I found curious, and you just pointed out, is that you thought he was scum, then unvoted to ask his reasoning, then re-voted with the reasons you gave. Yes you did make the above post as well, but if you were voting him because you thought he was scum, why say it's because of DL and because he's the longest train. Why list reasons other than something stating your suspicions?

 

Bolded: Easy to list someone as scum if you're on the same team. It's called busing. Otherwise, I agree with Kaylee in this post, eplanations that doesn't ad up and conflict.
 

 

Ok if there's something that's not possible to understand here, let me know and I'll clear it up tomorrow. After some hours of sleep. Sleeeep.

[dapianoplay3r]

Darthe...you gonna keep ignoring my questions?

 

Explain your town reads on Dice/mish and Dap.

 

 

 

Dap, you gonna stick with the meta BS?  How many times have you argued that meta casing is wrong?

I haven't had a chance to do a case yet, I'm not even voting her i believe

 

But as I've always said, I don't case purely on meta. I use meta as a starting point and go from there. Normally I wouldn't of mentioned the meta and just used it for myself and then cased her here, however I've been busy

Either way meta raises interest, from there I get cases

[Kaylee]

Luci: in the rules or states about this being a hammer game. In a hammer game votes and unvotes are not counted once hammer has been cast. It sometimes takes the mod awhile to get to posting the phase is over and lynch achieved.

[peacesells]

Darthe..answer my question.  Stop lurking.

[Luciena]

Luci: in the rules or states about this being a hammer game. In a hammer game votes and unvotes are not counted once hammer has been cast. It sometimes takes the mod awhile to get to posting the phase is over and lynch achieved.

 

Yeah I kind of just realised that. Thank you for the explanation though Kaylee

[Darthe]

Darthe..answer my question. Stop lurking.

You shouldn't be so accusatory you know.

[peacesells]

 

Darthe..answer my question. Stop lurking.

You shouldn't be so accusatory you know.

 

 

Stop lurking. 

[Hallia]

Official Vote Count:

 

Mish(3): Peace, Csarmi, Lenlo

Andrej(3): Pral, Darthe, Kaylee

 

Not Voting: Luci, Mish, Dap, Andrej

 

Deadline for Day 2 is set for Wednesday, Sept. 25 at 7pm PST.  With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[michellem]

I voted AJ on the last page Hallia :) But I can do it again, lol.

 

Vote AJ

[Hallia]

Official Vote Count:

 

Mish(3): Peace, Csarmi, Lenlo

Andrej(4): Pral, Darthe, Kaylee, Mish

 

Not Voting: Luci, Dap, Andrej

 

Deadline for Day 2 is set for Wednesday, Sept. 25 at 7pm PST.  With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.  (You did!  Good catch)

[csarmi]

Not sure about PST. 3.5h left?

[peacesells]

more like 12

[Lenlo]

It says 7pm so I think we have atleast half a day left.

[csarmi]

Ooh it isn't BST.

[csarmi]

doesnt matter to me actually

 

I'll be back in an hour, then off for the night

[Andrej]

All aboard!

[peacesells]

Andre...why aren't you voting?

[Darthe]

Because that would loik bad. Duh.

[peacesells]

Because that would loik bad. Duh.

 

You know what also looks bad........?

[Luciena]

Not answering questions?

[Luciena]

Just a thought

[Luciena]

All aboard!

You're probably on your way home or to catch your flight.

 

However I don't like this statement. Instead of defending yourself you're being passive. For that reason

 

vote Andrej

[Andrej]

vote Peace

 

There ya go.