August 9, 2013: CONCLUDED

[WWWwombat]

No idea. Maybe if Darthe hadn't had to edit Lily out of the playerlist nearly a week after she'd been replaced he would have had time to do a votecount for us.

 

Do you want a vote count post restriction?

[Nolder]

 

No idea. Maybe if Darthe hadn't had to edit Lily out of the playerlist nearly a week after she'd been replaced he would have had time to do a votecount for us.

 

Do you want a vote count post restriction?

 

You may as well modkill me then, I'm not doing your guys job for you.

[Yates]

 

 

No idea. Maybe if Darthe hadn't had to edit Lily out of the playerlist nearly a week after she'd been replaced he would have had time to do a votecount for us.

 

Do you want a vote count post restriction?

 

You may as well modkill me then, I'm not doing your guys job for you.

Ladies...ladies... you are both pretty, ok? 

[WWWwombat]

Tempting, but I'll pass.

 

 

 

Official Vote Count:

BG (1/10): Serra
Peace (6/10): Hally, Len, BG, Dap, Tina, Cloud
Tiink (1/10): Rorschache
Ishy (1/10):Verb
Chuckles (1/10): Razen

Serra (2/10): Peace, Des

 

Not Voting (7/19):
Chuckles, Yates, Krak, Ree, Ishy, Tiink, Nol

21.5 hours
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[Nolder]

Alright so one day.

 

Ehhh, not a lot of time to decide things.

We aren't guaranteed a doctor (or a cop for that matter).

I think it's best to just off lolguy and take our chances.

If he outs his innocent and he wasn't lying and IF we have a doctor they can protect the innocent tonight.

Not a bad deal all things considered. Lotta if's obviously but I don't trust lolguy at all and he hasn't said anything since I unvoted to make me think it'd be worth keeping him around.

[Nolder]

Vote lolguy

[peacesells]

Alright so one day.

 

Ehhh, not a lot of time to decide things.

We aren't guaranteed a doctor (or a cop for that matter).

I think it's best to just off lolguy and take our chances.

If he outs his innocent and he wasn't lying and IF we have a doctor they can protect the innocent tonight.

Not a bad deal all things considered. Lotta if's obviously but I don't trust lolguy at all and he hasn't said anything since I unvoted to make me think it'd be worth keeping him around.

 

No..that makes no sense.  For one thing..you aren't gonna convince enough people to lynch a claimed COP so you are wasting your vote.  Basically, Nolder that is a defacto vote on me as I am close to being lynched and Chuckles won't be.   Not with 20 hours left on a Sunday night.

 

You either vote me or someone else you find scummy.  I prefer Serra.

[Nolder]

No..that makes no sense.  For one thing..you aren't gonna convince enough people to lynch a claimed COP so you are wasting your vote.

I happen to consider myself quite persuasive at times.

Regardless though, there hasn't really been enough time and responses yet to say that I have wasted my vote.

 

Basically, Nolder that is a defacto vote on me as I am close to being lynched and Chuckles won't be.

While I agree that you're probably the one that's going to end up lynched it's not impossible that you wont be.

I think we've both seen trains build up and fall away within minutes before.

If I am not only voting someone else but also advocating for their lynch I think it's unfair to call it a defacto vote for you.

 

Not with 20 hours left on a Sunday night.

It will be Monday night by the time deadline rolls around.

 

You either vote me or someone else you find scummy.  I prefer Serra.

Don't go suicidal on me now. :/

I'll switch my vote if something crops up but for now I like it where it is.

[serra]

3 things:

 

1. I am again posting even though I probably shouldn't. It's 4am here, and checking how this thread is going is literally the last thing I'm doing before passing out. This is not me lurking, this is me having busy weekends... Surely, if I actually was following the thread, the most opportune time to vote peace, if I were scum trying to get him lynched, would have been DIRECTLY after he pulled the brake line.

 

2. I, too, would expect a Doc protection to only prevent a single kill. If this is different here, that'd actually quite surprise me. @mod: if a doctor role exists in this game, does it protect from multiple kills?

 

3. I believe chuckles' cop claim. There's should be now way in heck we're lynching him today. Yates is good for his unvote and further explanation. Nolder is less so. Even though I know no one will listen to my suggested play, my suggestion would be to ask the bullet-proof townie in this thread to claim, which would pretty much confirm that all 3 threads have the same PR's, meaning we can keep chuckles alive. Before anyone complains about me role-fishing: I suggest outing probably the weakest PR we have in this thread to stop people from lynching the cop, who may be our only hope of winning this, as well as giving us valuable information for the town-games in the other threads. If there actually is a bullet-proof townie in this thread and the two others, I would actually also consider the possibility that the game could be solved by a game-wide mass claim.

 

I will actually read the other threads tomorrow (probably morning)...

[serra]

*3.5 after all that, Wombat still got his VC wrong... I'm voting peace.

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count:
 

Peace (7/10): Hally, Len, BG, Dap, Tina, Cloud, Serra

Tiink (1/10): Rorschache

Ishy (1/10):Verb

Chuckles (2/10): Razen, Nol

Serra (2/10): Peace, Des

Not Voting (6/19):
Chuckles, Krak, Ree, Ishy, Tiink, Yates

 

19 Hours

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[WWWwombat]

*3.5 after all that, Wombat still got his VC wrong... I'm voting peace.

 

[Niniel]

I´m not sure what to think about Chuckles. First it looked like Peace tried to out the cop and when that didn´t go well Chuckles reveals cop with almost no pressure. Having said that, why vote for a uncc´d cop? Not a good idea. 

 

I´m still satisfied with my vote on Peace. 

[hazelkrs1]

So while I don't completely believe Chuckle's Cop claim, I also saw him do some pretty good Cop work in another game, and moreover I'm surprised at the moves of those pushing him.

 

Voting an unCC'ed cop is a bit harsh imo, considering that town is already at a fairly big disadvantage, and there really isn't a wealth of evidence against him. Don't get me wrong, I had a scum read on him too, but he always looks scummy to me.

 

Pushing him to reveal his innocent viewing is much worse however. Basically doesn't help town at all. If Chuckles is fake claiming, then there would be inherent wifom with whoever he named, even if we got his alignment before lynching his "viewing". If he IS the cop, then we get a confirmed townie... for like one more day. Pushing for the reveal at this stage is dumb.

 

Speaking of pushing for reveals however, we have this doozy:

 

3 things:

 

1. I am again posting even though I probably shouldn't. It's 4am here, and checking how this thread is going is literally the last thing I'm doing before passing out. This is not me lurking, this is me having busy weekends... Surely, if I actually was following the thread, the most opportune time to vote peace, if I were scum trying to get him lynched, would have been DIRECTLY after he pulled the brake line.

 

2. I, too, would expect a Doc protection to only prevent a single kill. If this is different here, that'd actually quite surprise me. @mod: if a doctor role exists in this game, does it protect from multiple kills?

 

3. I believe chuckles' cop claim. There's should be now way in heck we're lynching him today. Yates is good for his unvote and further explanation. Nolder is less so. Even though I know no one will listen to my suggested play, my suggestion would be to ask the bullet-proof townie in this thread to claim, which would pretty much confirm that all 3 threads have the same PR's, meaning we can keep chuckles alive. Before anyone complains about me role-fishing: I suggest outing probably the weakest PR we have in this thread to stop people from lynching the cop, who may be our only hope of winning this, as well as giving us valuable information for the town-games in the other threads. If there actually is a bullet-proof townie in this thread and the two others, I would actually also consider the possibility that the game could be solved by a game-wide mass claim.

 

I will actually read the other threads tomorrow (probably morning)...

 

Holy scum slip Batman! Dude's actually trying to get our BPV to out him/herself! Dude, you are DEF scum now in my book.

 

I agree that BPV's aren't very strong for a PR, but asking them to out themselves removes ANY actual utility they have in the first place. The whole purpose of a BPV is to try and draw the NK to make mafia waste a NK. Outing them essentially turns them into a vanilla.

 

And seeing two different Vengeful Killers lynched in the same day (as well as two vigs die in two separate threads) is plenty enough proof to make it seem like all three threads might have the same or similar roles imo. Outing a town PR just to solidify this concept is just silly.

 

And the cross-game mass claim is also pretty scummy imo too. Would cause a lot of initial confusion, that the mafia can use to their advantage, and considering the multiple killing elements in pretty much every thread, you'd start seeing town PR's drop like flies.

 

Yeah....

 

 

VOTE SERRA YALL.

[lolguy26]

I'm confused nolder, your saying that you'd rather lynch off an UN CC cop and have me reveal the 1 townie who will be the main focus of NK's come night, its as far as I can see a lose lose sitution for town

[Tiinker]

I'm pretty sure I was still voting Peace

 

I skimmed through, but my ass is getting eaten alive by revision at the moment so give me a day or two. Trying to learn how to program within a few weeks >:[

[peacesells]

I'm pretty sure I was still voting Peace

 

I skimmed through, but my ass is getting eaten alive by revision at the moment so give me a day or two. Trying to learn how to program within a few weeks >:[

Wow

[hazelkrs1]

Meh, voting activity is poop. Ain't no way Serra is getting lynched today.

 

Unvote, Vote Peace

 

Serra is def scum for suggesting the BPV out themselves tho.

[Niniel]

I agree about Serra and fos Nolder.

[Tiinker]

fos Tina. Agrees Serra is def scum. Still votes Peace even though vote based on uncertainty. 12 hours not enough for you?

[Pralaya]

Meh, voting activity is poop. Ain't no way Serra is getting lynched today.

 

Unvote, Vote Peace

 

Serra is def scum for suggesting the BPV out themselves tho.

 

 

Yep, looks like a dead end. Lets get on with it. I still think Tinker is scum though.

 

Unvote, vote peace

[peacesells]

lazy votes. 

[lolguy26]

I prefer lynching serra

 

vote serra

 

And we still have time, if everyone moves trains (ill be here till the DL, ill check in as often as I can)

[Yates]

 

my suggestion would be to ask the bullet-proof townie in this thread to claim

I agree that BPV's aren't very strong for a PR, but asking them to out themselves removes ANY actual utility they have in the first place. The whole purpose of a BPV is to try and draw the NK to make mafia waste a NK.

 

What's interesting about these posts is that the real reason I unvoted Chuckles was because I read into Serra's "we may have the same roles here" post a little deeper. I'm going to intentionally introduce some wifom here [for scum, really] and suggest that I dropped my pursuit of reads from Chuckles not because I believe his claim - but because I specifically do NOT believe his claim. Interestingly, the angle I wasn't considering was that Chuckles could be a BPV trying to draw the NK. In this case, a Doc protect plus a BPV means Chuckles lives and we have zero kills tonight.

 

Or I could be wrong. Or I could be the cop and that's why I don't believe Chuckles.  Or I could be the BPV myself.  Or I could be a VT trying to draw a kill tonight.  I'll let scum and 3rd party figure that stuff out tonight.

[Yates]

I'm not voting Serra.

I'm not voting an unCCed Cop [today].

 

What's the case on Peace?  I'm trying to get caught up from the weekend and don't have any obv scum in this thread that I can recall.