[ADVANCED] KaeKey Game of Thrones Mafia - GAME OVER! NIGHT'S WATCH WINS!

[Gabriel Kross]

More than likely it's due to her having to change allegiance after she replaced in. Her stance from Day one to Day two has made a complete 180.

 

That's what you get when you have dead players replace back into games. See my post in the grievance thread for details.

 

 

 

Verb, only the first part is gut. The rest is genuinely scummy play on you. Anyone can just say hahaha just kidding to cover up their rear so people trust them. You lurked through the Avengers game and knew you couldn't play that style again with so many of the same players, so you play off and play it as joking.

 

EP, would you say that I've been reasonably active since Tuesday morning? I would say yes. I would say that my activity over these past few days has been average, and not lurky. I was away with no internet last weekend. Don't link that to actual casing - it's cheesy. I didn't lurk - I was simply inactive. I'm not inactive anymore. I have yet to be lurking in this game. If this is your case, you won't get any traction on me. Go away.

 

I was saying you cannot use the lurk style this game due to pulling it off in the avengers game read it again.

[keyholder21]

*pokes the game*

 

I miss you all! Where did you go? *sniffle*

[ed2funy]

I am here.

Small LOA this weekend. Starting tonight.

 

 

My only comments on the game at this moment are how Red was casting doubt on Peace. Seemed a bit odd to me. imo, we should pretty much take it as it is.

[John Snow]

Key is impatient! She must be scum!

Oh, and sorry guys for inactivity, I'll be picking it up. College was hecktic.

[Kaylee]

Just a heads up that I'm heading out of town & won't be back until Sunday night.

[Songstress]

Sounds like the quiet weekend is starting early. I for one will be around.

 

Will poke through my notes this weekend and see if anything else stands out at me.

[John E. Kelley]

I'll be around for a few hours, but won't be around again until Sunday night. Going out of town.

[hazelkrs1]

Fall for Greenville was fun today! Thought we could save a bit of money by drinking at a bar instead of buying drinks at the festival... yeah that didn't work.

 

There's been a bunch of malarky goin on lately I see.

 

I still think others need to go back and review some of Razen's posts and determine for themselves whether or not he seems scummy. If there's still time Monday night I'll do a full case on him, but imo I've reviewed the case on him easy enough with my vote post on him.

 

A lot of this other stuff seems like townies just going after the active posters. I could also move my vote to BG as well, if it seems like everyone is going to ignore me yet again on Razen.

[hazelkrs1]

Anyone have an idea of when the deadline is btw?

[Sakaea]

No DL yet.

[RandA lThor]

Thanks Kae. By the way, I will be gone pretty much all of Saturday for a speech and debate tournament, might be able to check in, but I am not sure.

[michellem]

Wooooh, Imma join Ishy on drunk mafa! No, actually, Imma go to bed. But Des, Im not gona look trugh 75 pages to find 2 posts of yours, case properly dude, youre just harpin on and on th same old song. Good night!

[Red2111]

goign back over the events of N1, 'm revising my FoS. Ed was somewhat on Strikes case, but more to egg Red 1.0 on and give the case i was bringing support. ping for that, but theres bigger fish to fry. i retract what i said about Ishy in terms of strike.

 

 

Fish named Mish, JLM and Despo.

 

Despo came out in Strieks corner, and attacked those attaching him. then he pulled the Jester card and i'm not quoting his refusal to vote Strike post

 

Mish and JLM were heaviest against Strike next to me. this is where our trains should go today imo.

 

 

I think you're pushing me this hard to get me on the defensive, so that I'll look guilty of being on the scum team.

 

Of course that's what she's doing, that's what Red does, she pushes, but no one can make you get defensive, so the question is why are you getting so defensive?

 

JLM aligns with me and starts an offensive at Strike

 

 

I've already stated that I think Night needs some pushing and is coming off as scummy.

And while I agree with you, I think this particular case isn't so bad. But he does bear watching.

 

Eds backing the cases without getting his hands dirty

 

 

On page 41 (starting pg 42) of my Nightstrike skim thru [that was mostly for me I'm about to have to leave work and I want to remember where I was, lol]

 

Why role claim or hint so early? Why? I think it's bad for town. It's seemed that way in the games I've been in so far, anyway. Maybe confirmed townies aren't always all good, either, I don't know?

 

Plays the confused newbie card then disappears for nearly 48 hours

 

Despo and Red seemed to disagree who to go after a couple of pages back. Maybe indicative of that they're not on the same team, at least if one of them isn't town. If both are town, then I suppose it means absolutely nothing. Nolder has argued for not pursuing the issues with EP that has taken so much time and effort, so I think I should consider him a likely townie. Those that have spent a lot of space on those issues could be on the scum team, as someone else pointed out. Nolder, perhaps?

 

This is the post Red is talking about, linking Nol and EP. Bolded part reads to me: if Nol says EP is town then he must be.

 

Oops, I just realized Nolder was the mod confirmed townie. Well, anyway, there's been too much diversion because of the issues in question.

 

Not sure what this really meant in relation to the above post but it makes it look like he's backing off his own post.

 

There's just too many pages to read. John Snow claimed something? I've missed that.

 

There's too many pages but then five minutes later he conveniently finds the quote.

 

unvote

I've got class and will do a re-read after, but I'm Ned Stark.

OK, he claimed Ned Stark. I'll choose to believe him, because I didn't see the scumminess on his part before.

 

 

In the process of a re-read with notes this morning now that my brain is working again, but I'm only about 1/3 of the way through and out of time - have to go to work.

 

At very least I'm seeing several good informational possibilities from lynching John Snow... the wording of some of the votes on him has piqued my interest. I want to finish catching up on my notes before commenting on any specifics. And my gut feeling as of my fuzzy brain last night was that John was pinging me, but I haven't quite gotten through to define the posts that set off the pings yet.

FoS, fence-sitting and incriminating the ones who've voted JS. He "pinged" her, but she thought his lynch would get "good informational" stuff. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. Vote Songstress .

 

Accuses Tress of Fench sitting for the same thing Red is saying of him now.

 

Me? Have I done something special to warrant being put on such a small list?

I forgot he was the mod confirmed townie. I was reading through masses of pages, and found him to be townish, but right after I remembered it was him they confirmed.

Too bad you're not buying it, because I'm town and I read through masses of pages as quickly as I could. Since I'm town, it's obviously a mistake a townie could do. I'd not been focused on who was the confirmed townie, since I was trying to analyze the text itself.

 

Gets overly defensive when Peace asks a question.

 

If I should be voted out, then remember Songstress and Peacesells. I think they are on the scum team.

 

At this point there is one whole vote on him and it's neither of the people he's telling us to watch.

 

 

 

Ok will continue this evening sometime, I hope. Going to work out with my sister so if I don't kill myself I hope to be coherent enough to finish. Don't add too many more pages for me, lol.

 

JLMs case on Strike over N1

 

 

 

Night really is pinging me hard now. It might just be newbie townie falling to pressure (god knows I've done that, and that was "just" Despo pushing on me)), or newbie scumster with no team online atm the coach him. My gut is leaning more on the latter.

 

Mish starts chiming in

 

 

This night talk is getting a little carried away. I'm not saying we shouldn't have some game discussion going on, but there's way too many players that are advocating setting up a lynch for tomorrow. This is scummy, and dumb.

 

Save the voting for day, we can talk about what seems off to us but planning out a lynch only helps the mafia team t=so they know how to prepare.

 

Besides, I'm getting more of a townie vibe from Nightstrike tbh.

 

Red's case on him isn't all that strong really, and it's much easier to build a case on a newer mafia player who also doesn't have perfect grammar. It's much easier to make it look like they're flailing.

 

And the sudden spotlight on Nightstrike is ignoring a lot of other scummy candidates we had yesterday as well. Razen and BG, for one.

 

Despo sides with Strike and defends him

 

 

My thoughts echo the bold for Night. I can see where Red/JLM are going iwth the posts, just getting more of a frustrated town vibe. I could be wrong.

 

Kay sides with Despo and defends Strike

 

 

Night, why should your cases be pretty obvious? You are acting extremely suspicious right now, and I was just beginning to believe you were town... To just throw out names and say "oh you should know why", without even bothering doing a case to back up your opinion... That is scum-behaviour right there.

 

more casing from Mish

 

I've gotta say this, and usually I hate anyone throwing this idea out there, but at this point Nightstrike is acting more jesterish than anyone else I've ever seen act.

 

Nightstrike, if you really are town, I suggest taking a few and calming down. Not EVERYONE that pressures you is mafia, if you're town. Could just be misguided townies man. Your behavior has stuck out as odd, so people commenting on it shouldn't come as a surprise

 

Jester card is flung

[Red2111]

part 2 for Strikes analysis

 

 

 

Despo and Red seemed to disagree who to go after a couple of pages back. Maybe indicative of that they're not on the same team, at least if one of them isn't town. If both are town, then I suppose it means absolutely nothing. Nolder has argued for not pursuing the issues with EP that has taken so much time and effort, so I think I should consider him a likely townie. Those that have spent a lot of space on those issues could be on the scum team, as someone else pointed out. Nolder, perhaps?

 

This is the post Red is talking about, linking Nol and EP. Bolded part reads to me: if Nol says EP is town then he must be.

I hope you and red are both scum. Who is "him" if not Nolder? If those who wanted to leave the issues in question should be considered townies, then how in the whole world would that mean they've said anything whatsoever about EP?

 

Here's where I think confusion is coming in. "him" in that sentence could just have easily be EP which is how I interpreted it. Pronouns:tricky little bastards that will trip you up every time.

 

But here's the thing. Why didn't you just ask for clarification of how Red was coming to that conclusion (about linking Nol and EP) instead of screaming that she was lying with every single post. There's better ways to handle pressure being put on you than what you're doing.

 

And as far as well would his {theoretical} mafia team mates let him behave like this? Well if they thought it helps him look like newbie (which he is) town then hell yes they would.

more from JLM

 

Well, I know who I'm voting tomorrow for sure, I don't think I've seen more scummy behaviour ever. You refuse to give a case, even after several players have adviced you that it'll make you look like scum? You are not gonna survive long in any mafia with that attitude Night. In some ways I feel bad for you, I'm fresh to mafia myself, but at least I had sense to listen to the veteran players to learn how the game is played.

 

May I ask why you are acting like this? Are you sick of the game and don't want to play anymore? If so, as Key&Kae to replace you. Wether you are town or mafia, what you are doing now is hurting your team, and not just your team, the whole game. This stinks even more than EP's "tactis" at the start of the game. You are just being a s***ty player right now.

and Mish

 

Although I'm still not liking Night's play at all I'll let it rest till morning comes and we see what havoc has been wrought.

this quote here is very interesting, given the NK on me. really supports the frame theory and shows how much she had to gain from my NK.

 

His alignment. Jesus, pay attention. I have a good feeling Red is town atm. Too much posting for me in this game (I'm in too much lately and have the flu) but am trying to catch up so my apologies there. She is at least on her meta. Nol is obvious town but I think that being confirmed is messing with his scumhunting ability some because others are still questioning it. That is truly pingy to me. Ishy is probably townie as well. Nightstrike and BG both interest me highly and EP is null tell as ever because he is anti-town regardless of alignment. There are some of my thoughts, more to come later.

Here Darthe flips his previous stance on Red 1.0 from saying he's suspecting me to now i'm town. and nudging a Strike and BG push

 

You don't know how to play if you think just saying someone's case is wrong and therefore they are scum. You have been playing scummy and most of your remarks and posts have been interpreted so. Either case her back and point out how she is wrong or just take it like a man.

 

Because Red's a bigger woman. A very harsh, cruel woman.

more nudging from Ed

 

There's a shocker. Red got NK'd.

JLMs reaction to the NK on Red 1.0

 

Yeah like that NK wasn't total confirmation...

 

Vote Night

 

I hope you act a bit better in your next game dude.

scumminess on par with JLMs post. "yeah like the Nk wasn't total conformation" try a bit more tact next time over eager scumster.

 

This train is building rapidly but really I know why. I've gone back and forth a few times about whether to jump on board or not and think I will. I think enough has been said about Night thru the night phase that I really don't need to finish that casing. But if anyone really wants more WOT's I will.

 

Night

and this as well.

like i said, JLM and Mish need our focus today, my money is on either 1 or both being scum.

[Red2111]

others things to bring up.

 

 

R & U

 

The biggest thing I find interesting in the nightstrike case is his fence sittiing on Basel compared to his strong defense of BG. How do those two things add up?

 

At this point, a Nightstrike lynch day 2 will be packed full of information.

 

they dont add up, their two seperate scum tales as far as i'm concerned.

 

also, i agree; but this doens't mean we need ot rush the lynch either. i'd still like to see two wagons or more tomorrow.

 

heres where i originally advocated not rushing the lynch N1

 

 

My thoughts echo the bold for Night. I can see where Red/JLM are going iwth the posts, just getting more of a frustrated town vibe. I could be wrong.

 

thsi was posted N1 in response to Despos thesis. which is interesting considering this post

 

 

Night is my top choice for the obvious. I was orginally leaning town for him but his recent postings reak. The list without a case, and the "if these people are town I hope we lose" post. With how rapidly his train is building I'll hold off a vote for now.

 

 

 

 

and theres this post from Dice which reeks all kinds of ways

 

This has been an incredibly active game. Dice, if you're still up, what are your thoughts on some of the players that have been in the spotlight lately? Nightstrike, BG, Razen, Red, Ed... to name a few

 

i musta gone to bed when you posted this.I got very distracted by nights reactions with red and red and EP going back and forth

 

nightstrike is acting crazy.almost EP crazy. BG is someone I always have problems reading, Most of the time i get him wrong. Im trying to figure Ed out..this is the first time ive played with himand all that humor and spam is distracting. Razen i havent really paid attention to

 

I am kinda on the same page as Red re EP I dont trust him. theres no real difference i dont think between silencer and jailer. Either could be a scum role cause they basically do the same thing so its easy to claim the town version.

 

Red ....Red is just so aggressive i dont really know what to make of her. part of me always wants her lynched just so she cant bulldog me!! and part wants her to stay as she gets reactions out of people but that makes it hard to figure if she is town scumhunting or mafia rolehunting if u get me.

 

 

Atm Night is the one i am watching the most. but i am also keeping an eye on EP

 

this is posted after Red 1.0 was NKd

 

focuses on EP even though Nol has come out and said he's got a mod confrimed town on him. he uses Red 1.0 to back his push on EP.

 

 

 

Well that is difficult. The mafia has semi-WIFOMed this. Big FoS to those of you who quickly jumped onto the nightstrike wagon, ya'll are far to experienced to make such a rookie move. And look who it was, I am content to move my vote back to where it was yesterday. Vote BGscummerson

and this one from Darth, who is now defending Strike even though he was finding him just as intersting as BG a few pages back

[dicetosser1]

ok so ive seen it said time and again mostly by Ed yet people seem to not get it.

 

EP is confirmed by NOLDER!! not the mod! HE is not the mod therefore he cannot MOD CONFIRM anyone

 

 

Nolder has not made an uncontested cop or LD claim so how am i supposed to know or believe that EP and damn cant think of who else it was Nol said was town is a CONFIRMED townie? From what i read about innocent child it does not have the sort of power to find alignments. It is very possible for people to have a role where they can send messages to other players...it was used in Ithi's Sith game. This is an advanced game anything could be in it! I dont trust EP. Partly a meta dont trust (he drives me crazy wading thru his schemes) and partly that he is NOT mod confirmed so i have no reason to trust him.

 

 

as for mentioning you after your death? I simply responded to Despo's question with my thoughts. That is what i was thinking about you before you were killed. I now think you are a mason with Strike. It would explain your swift turn around.

[ed2funy]

You don't know how to play if you think just saying someone's case is wrong and therefore they are scum. You have been playing scummy and most of your remarks and posts have been interpreted so. Either case her back and point out how she is wrong or just take it like a man.

 

Because Red's a bigger woman. A very harsh, cruel woman.

more nudging from Ed

Oh, you mean where I try to tell him to stop acting like a baby and case back or shush it?

lol, he needed this nudging.

[RandA lThor]

tl:dr? I am at a tournament.

[John Snow]

ok so ive seen it said time and again mostly by Ed yet people seem to not get it.

 

EP is confirmed by NOLDER!! not the mod! HE is not the mod therefore he cannot MOD CONFIRM anyone

 

 

Nolder has not made an uncontested cop or LD claim so how am i supposed to know or believe that EP and damn cant think of who else it was Nol said was town is a CONFIRMED townie? From what i read about innocent child it does not have the sort of power to find alignments. It is very possible for people to have a role where they can send messages to other players...it was used in Ithi's Sith game. This is an advanced game anything could be in it! I dont trust EP. Partly a meta dont trust (he drives me crazy wading thru his schemes) and partly that he is NOT mod confirmed so i have no reason to trust him.

 

 

as for mentioning you after your death? I simply responded to Despo's question with my thoughts. That is what i was thinking about you before you were killed. I now think you are a mason with Strike. It would explain your swift turn around.

If I recall correctly, he has not had any official flip that says that he is just an innocent child.

[Red2111]

ok so ive seen it said time and again mostly by Ed yet people seem to not get it.

 

EP is confirmed by NOLDER!! not the mod! HE is not the mod therefore he cannot MOD CONFIRM anyone

 

 

Nolder has not made an uncontested cop or LD claim so how am i supposed to know or believe that EP and damn cant think of who else it was Nol said was town is a CONFIRMED townie? From what i read about innocent child it does not have the sort of power to find alignments. It is very possible for people to have a role where they can send messages to other players...it was used in Ithi's Sith game. This is an advanced game anything could be in it! I dont trust EP. Partly a meta dont trust (he drives me crazy wading thru his schemes) and partly that he is NOT mod confirmed so i have no reason to trust him.

 

 

as for mentioning you after your death? I simply responded to Despo's question with my thoughts. That is what i was thinking about you before you were killed. I now think you are a mason with Strike. It would explain your swift turn around.

 

 

you do realize that Nol is claiming they are MOD CONFRIMED. so unless you have reason to doubt Nol then i dont get your aim. same beef i have with Ed on this.

 

you responding to Despo questions about me after my death is still fishy/. "want her gone so she doesn't bulldog me", "agree with Red about Ep" then continue to try and keep EP the centeral issue.

 

i dislike it greatly and the entire post stunk to high heaven.

 

 

if you were just responding to Despo and Red 1.0, considering what you posted, you shoudl have done so before your team submitted the NK.

 

 

and btw, if i'm on a Mason team with Strike, which i'm not, that implies we're both town. nice slip up there.

[Gabriel Kross]

I may or may not attempt to have a life this weekend so I'll most likely be scarce.

[RandA lThor]

Dont do it, having a life is overrated.

[michellem]

With Night, I did something I shouldn't have. I got involved personally/emotionally. At first he seemed so helpless, I think (?) this was his first game, and I felt bad for him, so I tried to help. In the WT the Greenies joke that I'm their resident Healer; I can't see someone in trouble and not help. And then I got offended when Night not only ignored my attempts at help but was rude at the same time. So I get very riled up about him, more than I should in a game. I'm still struggling a bit tuning out emotions while playing this game; I am a very emotional person and I quickly take things personally, and it takes some training to tune that out in specific situations.

 

So yeah. That's me on Night and my reactions.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

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you do realize that Nol is claiming they are MOD CONFRIMED. so unless you have reason to doubt Nol then i dont get your aim. same beef i have with Ed on this.

 

you responding to Despo questions about me after my death is still fishy/. "want her gone so she doesn't bulldog me", "agree with Red about Ep" then continue to try and keep EP the centeral issue.

 

i dislike it greatly and the entire post stunk to high heaven.

 

 

if you were just responding to Despo and Red 1.0, considering what you posted, you should have done so before your team submitted the NK.

 

 

and btw, if i'm on a Mason team with Strike, which i'm not, that implies we're both town. nice slip up there.

 

 

what slip? have i said strike is scum since Peace suddenly got the word? Did i accuse you of being scum?? did i say mason was scum? No i did none of these things.

 

and the difference between the Peace situation and Nolder is the way it was done with the thread stopping and everything made it very obviously mod confirmed. So unless you are suggesting Nolder has TWO roles (which ive never seen) and which are not claimed then i have no reason to say it is mod confirmed. As i said he may have been tricked. If he had come out and said im a mason then id assume that those 2 are his partners. Without this info the only thing i believe is that NOLDER is town. I have no idea how the others were apparently "mod confirmed" so i wont trust it.

 

and btw NOONE (except maybe ishy or mynd) wants the bulldog to go them. Next time in deference to you perhaps i should edit my honest thoughts when asked a question

[Gabriel Kross]

Dice, you are wrong, I don't mind a bit of bulldogging.

 

Also like I had previously said, I am not a mason and cannot send messages. However if there was a message sending mechanic just talking about it if in the know about it would probably get you in trouble. However, I revealed my full role and character. If you don't trust me, that's your prerogative, however, I highly recommend you do some scum hunting if you are town, because I don't recall you doing anything even remotely close to it.