[ADVANCED] WOT Mafia: The Great Hunt - GAME OVER!

[Nolder]

*Comes out from piles of homework* Sorry I havent checked in ... Well here I am ... And lenlo's case is growing pretty strong against him

People already gave you grief over this so I'm not gonna beat you over the head

Next time instead of just summarizing something give an opinion yeah?

[hazelkrs1]

The OP seems to hint at multiple anti-town teams, which also fits within the cannon of The Great Hunt

I agree

I feel like we're going to see mafia and cult and SK

or two mafias and a SK

or you know

just a combo of really powerful anti town stuff

 

there was a daykill right?

maybe one team kills at night and the other kills at day?

 

I'll keep reading...

 

John Snow, who flipped as Rand, died in the middle of the day yesterday, but considering the way the scene read out, and the fact that Fain didn't seem to have a kill N2, leads me to believe that Fain's Dagger poisons it's targets, and that John was prob poisoned N1.

 

purposely or could we not reach a decision?

also is it night or day?

 

It is currently night and the D1 no lynch was beyond sketchy. Knowing the roles of five players now it should be easy to analyze so I suggest reading through D1 at the very least.

 

You keep saying this Darthe, and I still don't like it.

 

It was semisketchy that we couldn't get the actual "No Lynch" vote to pass, but it wouldn't have been easy anyways with so little time before the deadline.

 

But it WAS the only real option available to us at the time. What would you rather of us done? Why didn't you propose something then?

 

I think you're trying to put out this mock outrage over the no lynch thing to try and earn townie cred. You're seriously jumping up high on my scumdar.

 

I could care less where I am on your scumdar. I was gone that day. Why isn't your concern. However, I made it clear beforehand that no lynch was stupid and I still stand that it was so. I was voting peace a good portion of D1 and we had several candidates at the time whose trains built slowly, some of which could have worked. We also had several pushed claims and then two kills that night. In addition the no lynch train built relatively quickly, around the same speed as Lenlo's if I remember correctly. It obviously was a mafia led decision and had no potential way to work in our favor. Hence..--> Poor decision. As to who we should have went for, I can't say but that does not dismiss it as a lucritive days worth of info.

 

First of all lighten up man, your tone was really terse in this post it seemed. Second, you really don't actually say any reasons why a no lynch would have truly been bad for the town.

 

You say that the No Lynch train built fast, which means it was obviously mafia led. This is total bullshanks. First of all, mafia represent a minority at the start of every game, so they really can't bull up a train on anything that fast that almost gets half the game's votes, and they rarely link themselves so tightly. Second, it's one thing to point out that a lynch on an individual is building quickly, cause that often means that scum are bandwagoning onto a townie lynch. But to comment on the speed a no lynch train is building, when it was less than 24 hours to the deadline when it first started, is just silly. And don't try to act like there would have been time to secure a diff lynch, when we couldn't even get enough people on board to get the no lynch passed.

 

Plus, you say there were several candidates whose trains built slowly (man you are obsessed with the speed of trains) who "could have worked", and I assume you mean that we could have lynched instead of the people who claimed, yet you offer no names, which imo is just crazy scummy. If you think there were other good candidates, why not actually NAME them?

 

As for your Peace vote, I gotta say, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards you being his teammate right now. The post you ended up quoting for my benefit never really cased Peace, it spent the whole time fos'ing other players, then voting Peace at the end with a "gut feeling" type feel to it. Seems very much like it could have been distancing.

 

Thats pro town in the first 7 pages? The first 7 pages, only 2 of which are actual gameplay? Wow. Ask a more double-edged question please. I would love to see if its possible. Explain what anyone has done thats pro town. We are in D1 in the first 10 pages of the game. The most pro town thing someone can do is FoS someone and they turn out to be scum. Thats it.

 

Well a couple of people have been scum hunting. That's pro town.

in regards to being "pro town"

I really hate getting into arguments about whether or not someone is being pro town

Especially later in the game

It's so easy to twist "scum hunting" to "witch hunting" using "baseless accusations" and whatnot

It's a vague statement that it easy to manipulate into meaning what you want it to mean at the time and IMHO mafia are the ones who get hung up over it more than town because they need to discredit and cast doubt on other players

 

Day 1 no one can really do much that's "pro town"

We have no information

All that can be done is the scummy thing which is make baseless accusations and bandwagon

Once reactions are given you can start analyzing but IMO it's better to just lynch the first person to get a bandwagon rather than analyze without the benefit of actual facts

 

I agree 100% with this post. You can weigh how heavily someone's actions seem "antitown" in a game, even early in it, but trying to determine how "protown" someone's actions have been day 1 is just ludicrous

[Gabriel Kross]

purposely or could we not reach a decision?

also is it night or day?

 

It is currently night and the D1 no lynch was beyond sketchy. Knowing the roles of five players now it should be easy to analyze so I suggest reading through D1 at the very least.

 

You keep saying this Darthe, and I still don't like it.

 

It was semisketchy that we couldn't get the actual "No Lynch" vote to pass, but it wouldn't have been easy anyways with so little time before the deadline.

 

But it WAS the only real option available to us at the time. What would you rather of us done? Why didn't you propose something then?

 

I think you're trying to put out this mock outrage over the no lynch thing to try and earn townie cred. You're seriously jumping up high on my scumdar.

 

I could care less where I am on your scumdar. I was gone that day. Why isn't your concern. However, I made it clear beforehand that no lynch was stupid and I still stand that it was so. I was voting peace a good portion of D1 and we had several candidates at the time whose trains built slowly, some of which could have worked. We also had several pushed claims and then two kills that night. In addition the no lynch train built relatively quickly, around the same speed as Lenlo's if I remember correctly. It obviously was a mafia led decision and had no potential way to work in our favor. Hence..--> Poor decision. As to who we should have went for, I can't say but that does not dismiss it as a lucritive days worth of info.

 

I'd like a serious why to this, there wasn't much reason to suspect Peace until he tunneled on Rand, the way it's coming off is you knew more than you should have. Hence->scummy baguette

[Nightstrike]

Good job, people. Despo knows his stuff. I hope there will be no more than one killed this night. GF will probably die. We won't get any more viewings then. That will be a challenge.

[dapianoplay3r]

Thank you for that night. I feel like you just took us to a whole new level on the game /sarcssm

 

Nol

note comment was cos im one of those that keep notes on games. It was something i had written to nyself

[Nightstrike]

I know I wasn't terribly helpful. I just wanted to point out Despo's skills. Besides, it can't be bad getting the post count up, considering the fate of Sorcha. Heh.

[Nolder]

Thank you for that night. I feel like you just took us to a whole new level on the game /sarcssm

 

Nol

note comment was cos im one of those that keep notes on games. It was something i had written to nyself

Ohhhhh ok I get it now

That makes a lot more sense

 

 

Also I'm almost done with my reread guys

I'm on page 20something

[Nolder]

A new day dawns, the sun shining down upon Almoth Plain and Toman Head. Not far outside of Falme, two women lie sleeping. But only one wakes. Horrified, she finds her companion dead, without a mark on her.

Would this indicate that Sorcha was killed with the OP maybe?

 

In an attempt to secure the Horn, one is killed by a sword through his chest. Another falls prey to the actions of a captured damane.

So three things happened this night

Sorcha was killed "without a mark"

Lenlo was killed via sword

Someone "fell prey to the actions of a captured damane"

 

So the Seanchan are confirmed but I have no idea what action one could fall prey to from a captured damane except maybe dying lol

But we only had two deaths so that's out

Maybe the damane helped leash someone else? Indicating a cult?

 

I dunno

[Shinori]

I'm gonna state this even if i do die, cause that would suck.

 

I was neighborized by X player in this game.

 

Apparently neighborizer fails on certain targets, and it was used night 1 on GF, but that failed. Upon that failing night 2 it was used on me.

 

Not sure why the neighborizer failed the first night though, just know that it fails on some targets and nothing bad happens in return. It just fails.

[Nolder]

can you ask your neighborizer to clarify whether they were told their ability would sometimes fail or if it was chance based? Or did this come as a surprise to them?

[dicetosser1]

what the hell is a neighborizer?

[Nolder]

what the hell is a neighborizer?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer

[Nolder]

Oh also

You're an absorber right?

So are you also a neighborizer now or what?

[Graendals favourite]

Well, I didn't even notice being targeted.

 

Oh, I'll warn, that though I function as a cop, that isn't my actual role. For one I view at day, and with some restrictions, which I won't go into in case I should survive. Just so no one is surprised.

[Darthe]

It was stated from early on that my views on peace were a gut decision based more on meta than play. I use meta a fair bit, after all I am a psychologist. It's kind of our thing. Now, if you would like me to specifically quantify every post that Peace made up until that point I can gladly do so, examining word choice and whatnot to almost no end. However, suffice it to say that he is done and past which leaves me simply.. right. Any fool can look back after being proven and make a big deal of it. I haven't stopped making a big deal of it from the first. Hence..--> The difference. Imaginary misconstructions of me having a tense "tone" or "casing" after several explanations to the contrary are simply unfounded pushes.

[dicetosser1]

GF you seem to be jumping around a lot.

 

Cant you make up your mind what your role is??

[Graendals favourite]

I think I'm fairly clear.

[dicetosser1]

really? one minute ure a cop then your not whats clear about that?

[Graendals favourite]

Let's see on that if I miracolously survive

[Nolder]

I think I'm fairly clear.

I agree

[Gabriel Kross]

It was stated from early on that my views on peace were a gut decision based more on meta than play. I use meta a fair bit, after all I am a psychologist. It's kind of our thing. Now, if you would like me to specifically quantify every post that Peace made up until that point I can gladly do so, examining word choice and whatnot to almost no end. However, suffice it to say that he is done and past which leaves me simply.. right. Any fool can look back after being proven and make a big deal of it. I haven't stopped making a big deal of it from the first. Hence..--> The difference. Imaginary misconstructions of me having a tense "tone" or "casing" after several explanations to the contrary are simply unfounded pushes.

 

So basically what I get out of this is you were Peace's partner, and were distancing yourself from him.

[Darthe]

If you have to ask me what you understand then I hate to break it to you but you may have a condition.

[Turin Turambar]

Darthe, stop you are making my spill my coffee.

 

Hi, Nol. Hey everyone Nolder is here so if we end up in doubt tomorrow we always have a back up plan.

 

I leave all real thoughts for the morning.if Despo let's me live ;)

[Nolder]

Let's all go on vacation!! I vote Paris!

Going to Minecon?

[Nolder]

Hi, Nol. Hey everyone Nolder is here so if we end up in doubt tomorrow we always have a back up plan.

 

I leave all real thoughts for the morning.if Despo let's me live ;)

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