[Basic] Shifters vs Hunters - Game Over! Congrats Mafia!

[Alanna]

Vote Count:

Blackhoof (1) - Nolder

Razen (4) - Blackhoof, Ishy, Lenlo, Ironeyes

Lenlo (2) - Razen, Key

 

Not Voting: Darthe, Sakaea, Arez

 

Deadline is approximately 11 hours.

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[Arez Al'Loke]

I agree with Nolder.. Hoof is pushing this lynch to much for my liking.. And I don't like how He Fos'ed me just because I didn't want to vote Razen

 

Vote Hoof

[Nolder]

I kind of agree on Lenlo but I can't remember exactly what he said/did that struck me as odd

I'll do some rereading at some point

[Sakaea]

In the interest of competing trains, I'm going to vote Lenlo. I'm ok with Hoof or Razen also, so I may switch to one of them.

[Ironeyes]

We don't have time for competing trains! We don't want a random lynch.

[Razen]

We don't have time for competing trains! We don't want a random lynch.

 

Deadline is still 8 hours away. Plenty of things can happen between now and then. I'm comfortable with dying if I must, but your eagerness to push my lynch is noted.

[Ironeyes]

That's because I think you and Hoof are both scum. I don't care which dies. Here, since you wanted it, unvote, vote hoof.

[Razen]

That's because I think you and Hoof are both scum. I don't care which dies. Here, since you wanted it, unvote, vote hoof.

 

Now why are you letting my statement fluster you so? If you think I'm scum, why not keep your vote on me? I was the closest one to being lynched at that point, but instead, you make THREE equal trains, putting Hoof, me, and Len each at three votes with only one person yet to vote. And remind me who said that the random lynch was bad?

[Ironeyes]

I think you're both scum (not sure about Len yet). And I switched because I was ticked off and didn't want to bother arguing at the moment. So now you're FOSing me for doing what you want? Unvote

[John E. Kelley]

I think you're both scum (not sure about Len yet). And I switched because I was ticked off and didn't want to bother arguing at the moment. So now you're FOSing me for doing what you want? Unvote

 

He may be, I don't know, but I'm surely FoS'ing you for letting him dictate how you play.

[Alanna]

Vote Count:

Blackhoof (2) - Nolder, Arez

Razen (3) - Blackhoof, Ishy, Lenlo

Lenlo (3) - Razen, Key, Sakaea

 

Not Voting: Darthe, Ironeyes

 

Deadline is approximately 8 hours.

[Darthe]

oh please key, people say the wrong thing sometimes. hardly a valid reason to vote him.

 

Can someone remind me why a train is building on Razen?

 

because he used ridiculous reasoning to vote me. it wasnt JUST his "Blackhoof HAD a role" slip. i dont even consider that bad. people misspeak.

 

FOS@ Nolder and Arez for defending Razen. you guys know very well that the slip-uup is not the only reason people are voting Razen

 

Whatever Hoof. LIke I *already* said, sometimes it's a grammar mistake, sometimes it's a scum slip.

 

I agree with this, it seems like Hoof is trying to push off his earlier comments and backpedal at the same time, which is simply confusing.

 

 

Careful what you say. You're not out of the radar yet.

 

Anyone else get the image of some evil guy petting his cat while he's making plans here?

 

Very much so, I totally didn't feel comfortable with this. Seemed like I was being shut up for my views. Definite FoS on Ironeyes for that.

 

How would implying that there has been more than one scum killed scummy? How does that betray inside knowledge?

 

Im just confused, is all.

 

Well for one, there haven't been any scum killed yet so it implies skimming. Two, could also mean that we've run up votes on a scummate and the team has virtually written that person off. Three, again with wording (so I'm expecting an argument) but it could be scum trying to look townie by how it's worded.

 

Seems like more backpedaling and why did Hoof never respond to this?

 

Considering that I'm at L-1 and have no idea how the rest of the day phase is going to go, I'm going to share all the thoughts that I've had up to this point.

 

Ironeyes revived my train after it had stalled by saying that I was trying to hard and that I had said I was vanilla townie too many times. That's a rather weak reason, even weaker than the reason that Lenlo had for voting me.

 

What do you mean by "one more scum"? Last time I checked, only townies have been killed so far. I'm vanilla town, so fine if you don't believe me, but I think that YOU are scum. My vote stays put.

 

That's the third or fourth time you've said "I'm a vanilla townie." You're trying too hard. Vote Razen.

 

So if I do end up dying, I would look more closely at Lenlo, Ironeyes, and Blackhoof. I'm betting that 2 of 3, if not all 3 are scum.

 

Blackhoof is contradicting himself left and right. He FoS's Nol and Arez for defending me, but the fact is that there isn't any reason that he gave for voting me other than implying that he had either a power role/was scum. So unless I'm missing something, there is a valid question here.

 

 

 

oh please key, people say the wrong thing sometimes. hardly a valid reason to vote him.

 

Can someone remind me why a train is building on Razen?

 

because he used ridiculous reasoning to vote me. it wasnt JUST his "Blackhoof HAD a role" slip. i dont even consider that bad. people misspeak.

 

FOS@ Nolder and Arez for defending Razen. you guys know very well that the slip-uup is not the only reason people are voting Razen

 

 

Unvote, Vote Blackhoof

[Nolder]

I'm reluctant to do this without rereading to find out exactly what it was that bothered me but I think I might be busy starting in an hour or two and I'm not sure if I'll be back before the deadline

so chalk this up to a gut vote in the interest of avoiding random

 

Unvote: Blackhoof

Vote: Lenlo

[Darthe]

oh please key, people say the wrong thing sometimes. hardly a valid reason to vote him.

 

Can someone remind me why a train is building on Razen?

 

because he used ridiculous reasoning to vote me. it wasnt JUST his "Blackhoof HAD a role" slip. i dont even consider that bad. people misspeak.

 

FOS@ Nolder and Arez for defending Razen. you guys know very well that the slip-uup is not the only reason people are voting Razen

 

Whatever Hoof. LIke I *already* said, sometimes it's a grammar mistake, sometimes it's a scum slip.

 

I agree with this, it seems like Hoof is trying to push off his earlier comments and backpedal at the same time, which is simply confusing.

 

 

Careful what you say. You're not out of the radar yet.

 

Anyone else get the image of some evil guy petting his cat while he's making plans here?

 

Very much so, I totally didn't feel comfortable with this. Seemed like I was being shut up for my views. Definite FoS on Ironeyes for that.

 

How would implying that there has been more than one scum killed scummy? How does that betray inside knowledge?

 

Im just confused, is all.

 

Well for one, there haven't been any scum killed yet so it implies skimming. Two, could also mean that we've run up votes on a scummate and the team has virtually written that person off. Three, again with wording (so I'm expecting an argument) but it could be scum trying to look townie by how it's worded.

 

Seems like more backpedaling and why did Hoof never respond to this?

 

Considering that I'm at L-1 and have no idea how the rest of the day phase is going to go, I'm going to share all the thoughts that I've had up to this point.

 

Ironeyes revived my train after it had stalled by saying that I was trying to hard and that I had said I was vanilla townie too many times. That's a rather weak reason, even weaker than the reason that Lenlo had for voting me.

 

What do you mean by "one more scum"? Last time I checked, only townies have been killed so far. I'm vanilla town, so fine if you don't believe me, but I think that YOU are scum. My vote stays put.

 

That's the third or fourth time you've said "I'm a vanilla townie." You're trying too hard. Vote Razen.

 

So if I do end up dying, I would look more closely at Lenlo, Ironeyes, and Blackhoof. I'm betting that 2 of 3, if not all 3 are scum.

 

Blackhoof is contradicting himself left and right. He FoS's Nol and Arez for defending me, but the fact is that there isn't any reason that he gave for voting me other than implying that he had either a power role/was scum. So unless I'm missing something, there is a valid question here.

 

oh please key, people say the wrong thing sometimes. hardly a valid reason to vote him.

 

Can someone remind me why a train is building on Razen?

 

because he used ridiculous reasoning to vote me. it wasnt JUST his "Blackhoof HAD a role" slip. i dont even consider that bad. people misspeak.

 

FOS@ Nolder and Arez for defending Razen. you guys know very well that the slip-uup is not the only reason people are voting Razen

 

 

Unvote, Vote Blackhoof

 

(Needed to bold my words because that was long and confusing when I posted it.)

[Nolder]

HMMMM

 

if Hoof gets another vote while I'm still here I'll be switching back and hoping for the best as he is my preferred choice for a lynch today

[keyholder21]

Honestly, I'd be happy with any of the three.

[Nolder]

with so few people alive that seems a bit suspicious

I can't imagine all three are mafia

[John E. Kelley]

Lazy, all of you. The case on Hoof smells, and going after easy meat is really weak. Razen is the much better case today.

[keyholder21]

Oh for the love. Are you going to contradict me in every game? Lol. Sheesh.

 

All three have a similar WIFOM problem that we're mulling over. Or at least that's how it is for me, so I'd be happy with any of the three being voted so we can narrow down the pool. I don't necessarily think all three are scum either. That would be remarkable if so.

[keyholder21]

errr, that was at nolder. *mutters about being ninja'd*

[Ironeyes]

I'm gonna hang around and hammer in a few hours, because I don't care which of the three dies. Plus I'm not valuable enough to be a great loss in the unlikely case that one is a bomb.

[Nolder]

Oh for the love. Are you going to contradict me in every game? Lol. Sheesh.

I think because we're in multiple games together it's hard to keep feelings of suspicion completely separated for each game no matter how hard you try

I assure you I am trying but maybe it's just not enough

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, it's not intentional

 

aside from that I do feel like it's a valid concern

 

All three have a similar WIFOM problem that we're mulling over. Or at least that's how it is for me, so I'd be happy with any of the three being voted so we can narrow down the pool. I don't necessarily think all three are scum either. That would be remarkable if so.

I understand but I felt it would be better to voice my opinion on that then keep it to myself in the case I'm speed killed after the lynch (there's no particular reason I would be I think but hey it could happen)

and I'll repeat the same thing @ Ironeyes as he just said the same thing as you more or less

[John E. Kelley]

Tick tock, tick tock. DL is in a few everyone, what gives?

[keyholder21]

UNOFFICIAL Vote Count:

Blackhoof (1) - Arez

Razen (3) - Blackhoof, Ishy, Lenlo

Lenlo (4) - Razen, Key, Sakaea, Nolder

 

Not Voting: Darthe, Ironeyes

 

Deadline is approximately 1.5 hours.

[Lenlo]

What I meant by "one more scum" was quite simple. We may not have had one yet yes, but we were about to get one. Last I checked 1 was still greater than 0. It may not have been the best grammar but thats it. Razen has tried to vet himself as town multiple times now. He has pushed himself as town everytime instead, from what ive seen, trying to prove it. Does he have anything to prove or is he not town at all?

 

I shall see you in the morning everyone. Dont let this go random. The odds are not in our favor for it landing on a scum.