DPR Mafia - The Dark Monocle - Game Thread

[Leelou]

I don't defend either person I'm bonded to in mafia games. Everyone is fair game. If I find Tina scummy, I vote her. :) Same with Heart, although we really haven't played many games together.

[Netbattler11]

Night time, OUT OF FREAKING NOWHERE. So this is normal in dpr games? Remind me to sign up for all of them. In other news... there is no other news. Except for the fact that this is my hat.

[Netbattler11]

Damn you, tag error!

[Basel Gill]

Ok so someone was replaced with an automaton. Sounds like a cult game. Also, Ithi is defending Des a bit too hard to be explained just by the bond.

 

Womby, I think you lost me. What do you mean by an automaton? There is no listing for such a role on the Wiki anywhere, by my searching. And how have you deduced from these events that there is cult?

[Leelou]

*steals Maw's hat*

[LilyElizabeth]

Maw, the only thing normal about a DPR game is that there is no normal. He is a true artist when it comes to creating games.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ok so someone was replaced with an automaton. Sounds like a cult game. Also, Ithi is defending Des a bit too hard to be explained just by the bond.

 

Womby, I think you lost me. What do you mean by an automaton? There is no listing for such a role on the Wiki anywhere, by my searching. And how have you deduced from these events that there is cult?

 

DPR posted a scene at the end of the day Phase Basel. In that scene, he explained that someone had been taken and replaced by an automaton. This sounds like a cult, because cults recruit people and turn them away from their previous affiliation. Their goals become that of the cult. Some people think this may be a seperate thing from the Mafia, but if your read the rules - it clearly states that no matter what happens in this game, the line is drawn between Town and Mafia. The other option, which from remembering the Vampire Hunter game last year, is that the Mafia Team can recruit, so is also cult. The Vamps were biting all over the place in that game, and the kidnap and replace of real Townies with Fake Townies is a similar thing. Perhaps there was only one Mafia member to begin with. The Monocle himself, and he needs to build his team from scratch.

 

Then again ... one should remember that is never a good idea to try and figure out what is occurring inside the Pirate's head.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Maw, the only thing normal about a DPR game is that there is no normal. He is a true artist when it comes to creating games.

 

You have NO idea how excited I was when he decided he would run a game here. Although I can definitely say that this is my last game ever.

[Basel Gill]

Ok so someone was replaced with an automaton. Sounds like a cult game. Also, Ithi is defending Des a bit too hard to be explained just by the bond.

 

Womby, I think you lost me. What do you mean by an automaton? There is no listing for such a role on the Wiki anywhere, by my searching. And how have you deduced from these events that there is cult?

 

DPR posted a scene at the end of the day Phase Basel. In that scene, he explained that someone had been taken and replaced by an automaton. This sounds like a cult, because cults recruit people and turn them away from their previous affiliation. Their goals become that of the cult. Some people think this may be a seperate thing from the Mafia, but if your read the rules - it clearly states that no matter what happens in this game, the line is drawn between Town and Mafia. The other option, which from remembering the Vampire Hunter game last year, is that the Mafia Team can recruit, so is also cult. The Vamps were biting all over the place in that game, and the kidnap and replace of real Townies with Fake Townies is a similar thing. Perhaps there was only one Mafia member to begin with. The Monocle himself, and he needs to build his team from scratch.

 

Then again ... one should remember that is never a good idea to try and figure out what is occurring inside the Pirate's head.

 

LOL, that's what I get for skimming over the scene and going right to the results.

[Basel Gill]

And I was finally all decided on who to vote for, too!

[hazelkrs1]

Im super tired. My thoughts are just too muddled right now for any decent thoughts

Goodnight

I shall continue and actually post something tomorrow

 

(might not be fully steampunk but I thought it was cool. Plus I was listening to his 5th symp

 

 

symphony when I was googling )

 

*stupid computer. Goodnight

 

Possible symp hint? Great pic don't get me wrong, but I don't really see the necessity of putting it in here... plus most people refer to that composition as "Beethoven's 5th". Kinda wary of Player now.

 

Okay, to clarify my vote: Neither Songstress or Des really push any buttons for me. However, trains generally generate lots of good discussion, and so I wanted to help them develop. I have no particular reason for wanting either of them dead, or for keeping them alive.

 

Weak defense imo. Especially the last sentence, it just looks like Maw is trying too hard to show he has no ill will towards anyone in this game. I, on the other hand along with any townie worth their mettle, will lynch and FOS whomever I have to to catch scum.

 

Nice. Three competing trains, none with enough pressure to make anyone speak. I still think Wombat is a good way to go for his three-post call on Des, however, we need to pressure at least one person before deadline. With the weekend coming up, that should be accomplished today so there will still be time to change to another person if that becomes necessary. Because Wombat is calling Des scum and I do not trust Wombat, I am not going to vote the Des train. Songstress and Key both ditching their previous votes to call out Maw for "an opportunistic vote" looks opportunistic to me, frankly. We need 15 people to achieve a lynch. Why do both Key and Songstress believe that putting two people at three votes apiece makes more sense than putting one person at 4? The logic behind this "reason" for voting baffles me. It appears that Key does not want to vote for either of the leading vote getters, so she decided to jump on someone else entirely. Song followed suit on Maw, which also makes no sense as Des already had 4 votes and people have begun casing him. It appears to me that both Key and Songtress followed Despo's lead onto Maw in an attempt to raise another train. I don't like this, so I will not vote Maw and instead...

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE SONGSTRESS

 

Before people start calling me out for a "contradiction" in this post, I want to make it clear that I do not trust Wombat, but that does not mean I trust Despo. With Key and Songstress following him onto Maw, I have suspicions about the three of them trying to shift the trains away from a scum. My choice of Songstress is because there is no conflict with my Wombat suspicion.

 

That is all.

 

Blah blah blah a whole bunch of stuff that makes no sense. Aemon, you'reentire point in this has to do with the numbers on trains, and it's just such a ridiculous point I don't even know how to respond. People should vote for whomever they find scummy, they shouldn't be forced to vote for one of the top trains, or be limited from changing their vote or anything like that. Complete fail @ logic with this post.

 

I found Maw's vote to be opportunistic, so I voted for him. Apparently either Key or Song agreed that it and his defense of his vote looked scummy, or they had ulterior motives, but either way the numbers on each train at that point is completely irrelevant.

 

hmmm

taking awhile to get a lynch eh?

I haven't reread but I wonder who keeps derailing the trains

 

Big ping from this post. Not only does Nol seem to be anxious to have a lynch, he seems anxious to have day 1 over (mafia prefer town to have an unproductive day 1, makes it that much easier for them the rest of the game), AND this is a bit meta, but I'm thinking after recently learning of one of his tells (that he's too nice as mafia) he's trying to overcompensate and come off as short and dismissive.

 

Great. Cult. NK me now, please.

 

This post also pinged to me, I'm not usually that big a fan of peeps saying "please NK me now" at nighttime, especially the first night.

 

As far as other game thoughts, I say if Ape does end up replacing someone in this game we policy lynch him for derailing our mafia game. Ape, and I mean this sincerely, GFY and GTFO of our mafia game. Not necessarily in that order.

 

Then the whole day 1 ending early thing, DPR did say that his scenes and storyline would contain hints and clues, so by the wording of how that day ended I think it's safe to say we have evidence of some cult in this game. Since it's a large game, this wouldn't surprise me at all anyways. What would interest me is the mechanics of the recruitment: did it have something to do with how the day ended early as well? Studying the last few votes and posts and whatnot would be a good idea, as well as seeing if anyone's behavior changes somewhat.

 

About the whole Bonded discussion, I think it's a bit blown out of proportion myself. Bondeds just means you're good friends with someone, and knowing them better can actually give you an advantage in many situations in mafia. And I have no problem FOSing my bonded if I feel she's not town, or defending her if I feel like she's town.

 

That being said, I do think people don't realize how often a bond is used as a good cover; as Ithillian already explained it's very easy to use the bond the try and make yourself look more towny. I've done it before, she's done it, and yet people still think the only reason we would defend each other is because we're bonded. Assume if we're defending each other, it's either because we legitimately think they're town or we're doing it because of ulterior motives. Which is the case ANYTIME someone defends someone.

 

Either way, I'm kinda worried Ithi is doing the latter and is trying to make herself look town by defending me, knowing people will think she's only doing it because of the bond. The way she agreed with Aemon's logic fail post supports this a bit.

[hazelkrs1]

And I would like Mynd's hat btw

[aemonkristen]

Turin seems to have lost his grasp on reality early this game. When there are only 2 players with more than 1 vote on them and a dead DM weekend coming up, throwing votes onto someone else might as well be putting up a sign saying "let's have a random lynch today". The fact that you are defending their votes with such a poor attempt at deconstructing my argument does nothing to reduce my suspicion of you.

[Basel Gill]

And I would like Mynd's hat btw

 

Yes, Mynd has a very nice hat. Although IRL I tend to be more of a baseball cap person.

[Ithillian Turambar]

And I would like Mynd's hat btw

 

I will find you an even better Hat

[dapianoplay3r]

Be afraid Des! Be very afraid

 

But no. I refered to the symphony cos I was listening to it when I picked the picture to post

The person who made that did a whole bunch of them. He is called Kris Kuksi. Look him up. his stuff is pretty dam epic

http://kuksi.com/artworks/sculpture/

[Turin Turambar]

Turin seems to have lost his grasp on reality early this game. When there are only 2 players with more than 1 vote on them and a dead DM weekend coming up, throwing votes onto someone else might as well be putting up a sign saying "let's have a random lynch today". The fact that you are defending their votes with such a poor attempt at deconstructing my argument does nothing to reduce my suspicion of you.

What are you talking about? I never even voted anyone and it is now night so I won't be voting for a while apparently.

 

Are you referring to Despo? Now you can call me mafia but don't confuse me with him. Thems fightin' words.

 

would you care to duel?

[Netbattler11]

No! My hat!

[Blackhoof]

what an odd turn of events

 

well, night everyone, see you in the morning!

[Basel Gill]

what an odd turn of events

 

That sums it up quite fittingly.

[Christine]

Lily is my mistress. You can't break the bond of minion and mistress.

 

 

I have thrown her under the bus every chance I can.

[mmeeshal]

I tend to agree with the idea that the automatons might be cult. It's definitely one of many things to keep in mind as a possibility. Even though we're all gonna end up totally surprised by what the truth is, when it's all said and done.

[mmeeshal]

Oh, and I forgot for a bit because of the whole day ending early thing, but I was just gonna respond on the Verbal voting deal.

 

@Verb--fair enough, and it makes sense. It was more of a joke vote than anything else, although there was a smidgen of seriousness. I still gots my eye on you.

 

@Ithi--it's not quite as relevant anymore because Verb explained and I believe him, but I did just want to say that I find your posts interesting this game. There's a lot of "interesting" logic coming from you. Sure, the rules didn't specifically say to bold and red the votes, but at the time of Verbal's vote, DPR hadn't clarified this issue and, as we're on DM and 99% of the games follow this pattern, there was no reason for any of us to think Verbal's vote WOULD count if it wasn't colored. Plenty of mods forget to list certain rules, or clarify their stance on them if they're different than usual. It was totally possible that DPR could have just assumed we'd all know to bold/red votes, or that he forgot to mention it.

 

And that's all on that matter, promise. Just some nagging things I wanted to address. XD

[WWWwombat]

Lily is my mistress. You can't break the bond of minion and mistress.

 

 

I have thrown her under the bus every chance I can.

 

As it should be :)

[WWWwombat]

Ok so someone was replaced with an automaton. Sounds like a cult game. Also, Ithi is defending Des a bit too hard to be explained just by the bond.

 

Womby, I think you lost me. What do you mean by an automaton? There is no listing for such a role on the Wiki anywhere, by my searching. And how have you deduced from these events that there is cult?

 

DPR posted a scene at the end of the day Phase Basel. In that scene, he explained that someone had been taken and replaced by an automaton. This sounds like a cult, because cults recruit people and turn them away from their previous affiliation. Their goals become that of the cult. Some people think this may be a seperate thing from the Mafia, but if your read the rules - it clearly states that no matter what happens in this game, the line is drawn between Town and Mafia. The other option, which from remembering the Vampire Hunter game last year, is that the Mafia Team can recruit, so is also cult. The Vamps were biting all over the place in that game, and the kidnap and replace of real Townies with Fake Townies is a similar thing. Perhaps there was only one Mafia member to begin with. The Monocle himself, and he needs to build his team from scratch.

 

Then again ... one should remember that is never a good idea to try and figure out what is occurring inside the Pirate's head.

 

Regardless of what else you have said, this is a very good point. This is a Town vs. Mafia game and we must remember that. That being said, I think recruitment is likely given the end of D1 scene. Eventually, we will need to ask ourselves the question of who is likely to be recruited.