[Advanced] Lily's Mythical Beings Mafia

[hazelkrs1]

My argument has nothing to do with the "too townie" argument, don't put words in my mouth. Your response arguments in that last post are all extremely weak. My case on you is about your overall gameplay, which looks scummy. The more you post the scummier you look.

 

1. Blatant bandwagoning is bandwagoning without reason, your argument is the reason many were jumping on the bandwagon was faulty. Either way none of that has to do with the point that blatant bandwagoning (which wasn't the case with Hybrid's lynch, he exhibited a fair amount of scummy looking behavior), does NOT vet the person the train is on.

2. I don't even know what to say to this response. He wouldn't have had any clue who to RB. Scum buying some time to use his NA's would have made sense tho.

3. How can you not see the discrepancies in your posts?

 

I'm sorry if it's hard for you to believe but yes I was in fact aware Hybrid was town for reasons that should have been obvious to all players

 

was I absolutely 100% convinced? not really

 

first post makes it seem like anyone would be stupid to not have seen that Hybrid was town, as in it's completely obvious.

 

Second post backpedals; "Oh I mean I wasn't completely positive"

 

If you compare these to some of your earlier posts defending Hybrid this starts looking really fishy.

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote count:

 

Min (6) – Sakaea, Verb, Ishy, Hoof, Ama, Raena

Nolder (4) – Hoof, Karas, Des, Red

Vambram (2) – Barm, Nolder

Ama (2) – Ed, Bg

Ed (1) – Min

 

 

Not voting – Vam, Meesh, Lanth, Kat

 

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline Wednesday 8 PM MST.

 

I've asked Wombat (who agreed to be a backup) to replace Kat. Just waiting to hear back. I'll consider an extension of the deadline if he needs it.

[bgrishinko]

And where did everyone go?

[Karasayl]

ENIDAMA ETOV ,ETOVNU

 

..sklof siht od ot yrroS .em ot denethgila neeb tsuj sah ecnatropmi fo gnihtemoS

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote count:

 

Min (6) – Sakaea, Verb, Ishy, Hoof, Ama, Raena

Nolder (3) – Hoof, Des, Red

Ama (3) – Ed, Bg, Karas

Vambram (2) – Barm, Nolder

Ed (1) – Min

 

 

Not voting – Vam, Meesh, Lanth, Wombat

 

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline Thursday 8 PM MST.

 

Note the new deadline. I'm pleased with the activity y'all are showing and Wombat needs time to catch up. This new deadline is firm!

 

And oh, yeah, welcome Wombat to the game. He's replacing Kat. Now no more replacements, okay, guys? heh

[Red2111]

welcome to the game Womby!!

 

 

Karal, care to explain why you switched to Ama.

[bgrishinko]

Ah.... one more day. Thanks Wombat.

[mmeeshal]

Heh, while I was catching up, I noticed your comment relating to me, Red (every word that ends in "sh" catches my eye in mafia, even when it's "wish" or "harsh" or "mush." >.>). I just wanted to restate that I was waiting to hear from Min before placing my vote; I know my post was a bit word-heavy so that might have gotten buried. At this point, I highly doubt she is going to say anything more before the deadline, so I'm pretty much ready to vote for her.

 

However, a few things HAVE come up since I last posted, such as Karas' post about Amadine, which I'd like to hear more about, and the Nolder issue. At first I was inclined to believe Nold because he seems sincere and because I know I'm town, and his Desp result matches Ishy's, but that was on first read. Second time through, I do see how he's wavering between claiming he KNEW Hybrid was town, and claiming he was only SURE Hybrid was town. Plus, I don't see how he has 3 readings, either. A finder that works every day and every night doesn't seem like a very nice role balance-wise, especially with the normal finder, unless the mafia is a crazy powerhouse of souped-up roles. And I doubt Nolder was doubled on Day 1, because then how would Ishy have been doubled?

 

Although, I'm not discounting the possibility that Ishy is lying, but it seems highly unlikely at this point, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

Right now I'm cool with either a Min vote or a Nolder vote, depending on what happens between now and the deadline. I'll be online most of the day tomorrow, so no chance of me missing the deadline.

 

Also, welcome aboard, Womby!!! I haven't played with you in forever.

[Karasayl]

.hguoht eb deen fi etov ym hctiws nac I ,noitnetxe na evah ew dna denioj sah ybmoW ecniS .taht gnituot eb ot em rof ylrae ot yaw sti tub...elpoep rehto emos no SoF a evah od I woN .noitpo laer ylno ekil demees noitseuq s'gB gnirewsna ton enidamA ,niM no decnivnoc t'nsaw I ecnis oS \: dehcnyl teg ot gniyrt seh ebyam -gnikniht detrats I tniop eht ot mih htiw )?sdaer sih( hcum oot gnignip tsuj si radmucs ym tub ,erofeb mih htiw deyalp reven ev'I dnim ni peeK .yalpemag s'redloN tuoba gnikniht saw I tub ,noitalever eguh on ylniatrec sti dna ,)gniht sdrawkcab eht htiw gniyonna dna( gnitcartsid eb thgim ti lleW

[Sakaea]

Welcome to the game, WWWombat.

 

I'm going to UNVOTE for now, because the DL was extended, and the more the Nolder issue is discussed, the more I'm thinking his actions have been scummy.

 

No chance of me missing the DL either, so I will definitely be posting more later.

[Verbal32]

I don't see Vam's train.

And I think Min has already hinted at her role.....

 

She hasn't replied....gah....I think she targetted Ishy last night....

 

Blind One: try looking below Min's name and above yours. ;-)

 

LMFAO. Not literally. -_-

 

I don't see it....YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!

 

I know what you meant, little man.

 

 

 

 

.htnaL dna taK :era teiuq neeb evah ohw elpoep elbaton oslA .worromot rof hcnyl laitnetop a eb thgim taht os....noitseuq s'gB ot kcab ylper amA raeh ot ekil dluow I .teiuq neeb seh ecnis mih no erusserp erom ees ot dekil evah dluow I tub ,erehwyna og ti ees yllaer t'ndid I ,maV no etov eht rof sA .hcum tib a hsif elor ot mees seod redloN ,dias gnieb tahT .tey tsuj niM no etov a no tnedifnoc leef t'nod llits I ,revewoH .esnes fo tol a sekam ehs kniht I dna ,tsop s'deR ekil I

 

redloN etoV ,etovnU

 

I'm truly sorry, but I'm way too damn lazy to both entering these posts into a translator.

 

 

 

Unofficial Vote Count:

 

Min (7) – Red, Sakaea, Verb, Ishy, Hoof, Ama, Raena

Vambram (2) – Barm, Karas

Ed (2) – Min, Des

Amadine (2) - Ed, bg

 

Not voting – Vam, Meesh, Lanth, Nolder, Kat

 

10 to lynch

 

 

What is up with the new train on the final day before deadline? A whopping 2 votes on Amadine is supposed to be the competing train? FOS to Ed for suggesting it, and HUGE FOS to bg for following it, especially when his vote had Min at L-2. Without giving reasons to not push the other trains, this is highly suspicious. I can understand Ed not wanting to vote himself (duh), but why not Vam? Why not Min? Why start a new train on the day the deadline hits?

 

First off, I'm not fully convinced on Min. Though I'll admit she's acting odd enough I'd prefer her over a Random Lynch. Second, there is time left, 8 PM MST is the deadline so that is about 10+ Hrs left. Lots of time to change votes back as both Ed and I said.

 

Secondly, look who is getting anxious and pushy... interesting. If we do lynch Min and she is town, you are on my list.

 

Meh. See Red's answer below, which is now irrelevant. But at the time, we needed to consolidate better than we had been.

 

 

 

actually, i'm gonna back Verbal up on this anxiousness over the late 2nd train. with DM how it usually is, even 10 hours to the deadline with split votes could cost us a mjajority and i'm NOT up for a no corner report random lynch.

 

to get info from a lynch we need the corner's report.

 

 

another ting i find odd. Meesh is active, is posting against Min yet hasn't voted for her. could be scum trying to push the lynch but covering her tracks by waiting to vote.

 

while i'm at it, Nol's lack of a vote, even an OMGUS to SHA (save his ass) is rather interesting in itself.

 

 

i'd like a reason from those two especially why they've yet to cast a vote.

 

 

i'd also liek Lanth to start speakign more as well. Rl could have happened, but since the No Lynch debate has dropped off he's dropped with it. i also forget who said it, but i agree that Barm's actions are poke worthy as well. i'd love to press that tree and see what shakes loose; he's faded into the background along with lanth.

 

mmhmm

[Amadine]

Go back and highlight my last post. *sighs*

 

Yes I am town

 

Unvote

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote count:

 

Min (6) – Verb, Ishy, Hoof, Raena

Nolder (3) – Hoof, Des, Red

Ama (3) – Ed, Bg, Karas

Vambram (2) – Barm, Nolder

Ed (1) – Min

 

 

Not voting – Vam, Meesh, Lanth, Wombat, Sakaea, Ama

 

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline Thursday 8 PM MST.

[bgrishinko]

Thank you. :)

 

Unvote

[hazelkrs1]

This is dumb. First of all verby, I've been translating and quoting Karas' text for everyone, so apparently you're also too lazy to read my posts. Small FOS at you for making it seem harder than it is. Here's Karas' last post:

 

Well it might be distracting (and annoying with the backwards thing), and its certainly no huge revelation, but I was thinking about Nolder's gameplay. Keep in mind I've never played with him before, but my scumdar is just pinging too much (his reads?) with him to the point I started thinking- maybe hes trying to get lynched :\ So since I wasn't convinced on Min, Amadine not answering Bg's question seemed like only real option. Now I do have a FoS on some other people...but its way to early for me to be touting that. Since Womby has joined and we have an extention, I can switch my vote if need be though.

 

If there wasn't a deadline extension, this post would have pinged to me. The case on Amadine is as weak as they get, omg she didn't respond to BG's question about her alignment! Let's lynch anyone who doesn't outright say they're town! Let's go ahead and get EVERYONE to say whether or not they're town or scum, cause that's a good idea. I'm town. BG, your turn.

 

It's just laughable to me that BG really only wanted to hear Ama say she was scum, then was satisfied enough to unvote. I don't think she's def town, but she really hasn't pinged to me yet. Either way, we got some time now, we can pressure more peeps, why are we stopping right after we get an alignment out of them? That ain't pressure. I wanna see some people sweat under the town's focus, the more they squirm the more info we're likely to get.

 

@ Sakaea: Okay I guess I can understand your point about Lanth. You're right, he hasn't really contributed much at all to any scumhunts. He might deserve an FOS for having his activity level drop so much since the no lynch debate.

[hazelkrs1]

meant to say BG wanted to hear Ama say she was town. sorry bout that

[Nolder]

explain to me how you KNEW Hybrid was a townie.

I already did

you're choosing to ignore it

 

he was responding to my quote, where you role fished Min for what type of role she has when she said she wont reveal. it's was blantant role fishing.

ohh that was this game

ok ok yeah

it seems like she was willing enough to reveal she had a role (with only two votes on her) and claim it was important but that was all the info she was willing to give?

seems to me like she needed to be questioned to see what would turn up

I'm sorry if you disagree

 

i hate moving my vote from min at this point because the deadines so close. but with a statement like "I'm the roleblocker" without saying he's town from Hybrid, thats too big of a slip to pass up.

FTFY

 

same flakey reasoning, different player

[Barmacral]

Sorry about missing yesterday, life got really busy and I never had an opportunity to come by. I let Lily know when I could.

 

It doesn't paint a target for the mafia. They already know who is town and who isn't. It isn't like he is revealing roles. That would be painting a target. It is nice to know who is town that way when we are looking at the list we can narrow it down some. I don't think we should rely on Ishy coming to their rescue if we are close to a lynch. That is how I feel about it. They don't know who the healer is and hopefully won't know. So, they have no clue who is being protected.

I know I would still be suspicious of Red and knowing she was viewed helps me. Now I know the godfather can hide, however we have what we have to work with and the more information we have the better. Remember, the mafia knows who is mafia and who isn't already. The town knowing just helps catch them.

 

So, because you don't like the idea of the town having useful information meesh makes me wonder if you have something to hide.

 

Ping! Already well explained why.

 

also, Barm makes a good point about Vam. but again, isn't this the same reason Hybrid was lynch, because he didn't explain himself. Barm already has my FoS over his blow up over the No Lynch, part of me thinks he may be trying to use the fall out from Hybrids manipulate who we lynch.

 

Blowup?

 

ok I'm caught up

btw I think I missed the actual reveals

when did cop claim for the first time?

and did ed claim something?

 

Ping!

 

Well, I am town. Just because of my view on reveals you all want to lynch me. Okay, that is fine, just know that you are lynching someone with a great town power. I am not going to reveal what. Either you lynch me or you don't. I am tired of trying to defend myself when I am town. You will all probably think I am scum because of this post too and the fact I won't reveal. My thought is you either think I am scum or you don't. Plain and simple.

 

Meanwhile I am going to try and do some real scum hunting.

 

Vote Ed

 

You alluded to some kind of enhancement of Ishy's powers. I think you tracked someone's powers and then made it seem like it was yours. I don't trust you.

 

Seriously? You half-reveal after watching Ishy almost die the day before for doing exactly that? Ping!

 

With a fresher face on Day 1 than everyone else, I want to say Desp doesn't feel scummy to me. Also I'm still not convinced of Ishy's claim, even with the doubler thing...

 

Also I wasn't getting good vibes from Barm and was my #1 on reread, and a lot of others seemed to get scum vibes from him too... then crap hit the fan and he was forgotten oh so quickly and conviently, Vote Barm

 

You vote me on vibes, but no facts. Please provide facts next time.

 

And thats where I apparently stopped hitting the multi-quote button. I am tired. But also major Ping on Ed for his posts last night. I'm afraid by the time I got to the nolder part my eyes have been glazing over, so I will come back and read that later before making a judgement call. However, since Vambram is going nowhere (though he should be. He still hasn't posted I think. @mod - Can we get a prod on him?) I will unvote, vote: Min for at least two solidly scummy plays in one day.

[Raena]

Hmm. I'm going to keep my vote on Min for now. Going to sleep on it though.

[Nolder]

My argument has nothing to do with the "too townie" argument, don't put words in my mouth. Your response arguments in that last post are all extremely weak. My case on you is about your overall gameplay, which looks scummy. The more you post the scummier you look.

quite a vicious circle eh?

maybe I should just stop posting

oh wait...

 

seriously are you listening to yourself?

 

1. Blatant bandwagoning is bandwagoning without reason, your argument is the reason many were jumping on the bandwagon was faulty. Either way none of that has to do with the point that blatant bandwagoning (which wasn't the case with Hybrid's lynch, he exhibited a fair amount of scummy looking behavior), does NOT vet the person the train is on.

2. I don't even know what to say to this response. He wouldn't have had any clue who to RB. Scum buying some time to use his NA's would have made sense tho.

3. How can you not see the discrepancies in your posts?

1. you're leaving out the fact that several people voted Hybrid with the reasoning that he did not state he was town

they did NOT vote him for his scummy behavior

that was blatant bandwagoning

2. actually cops and the like often drop tells, much like scum. so do docs and power roles in general. you just need to know what you're looking for. but even if you're right and he had no clue who to RB he could pick randomly and hope he's either successful or scum kill the right person. the point is it makes zero sense for a scum RB to claim RB. I'm sorry if it wasn't obvious to you but it was to me.

3. how can you not see how ridiculous this whole line of questioning is?

 

I'm sorry if it's hard for you to believe but yes I was in fact aware Hybrid was town for reasons that should have been obvious to all players

 

was I absolutely 100% convinced? not really

 

first post makes it seem like anyone would be stupid to not have seen that Hybrid was town, as in it's completely obvious.

 

Second post backpedals; "Oh I mean I wasn't completely positive"

 

If you compare these to some of your earlier posts defending Hybrid this starts looking really fishy.

twist it however you want

I'm done discussing this with you

[Raena]

Barm, Vambram did post. I wonder were Lanth is though. I don't think he has posted since day 2 started.

 

 

On Day 1, there was a series of discussions between Des and Hybrid. I got a gut feeling that pinged my personal scum detector from Hybrid. I voted to lynch him, and it turns out that the lynching of Hybrid revealed that he was a Roleblocker whom was a Dragon on my team, the Town Team. Clearly, everyone of us Town players made a mistake in the lynching of Hybrid.

Now, here we are on Day 2, and the deadline is coming up on Wednesday. I am not getting a scummy feel from anyone right now... at least not a strong enough ping to cast a vote. However, I shall sleep on this, and come back tomorrow. Hopefully, I can return in time to cast a vote before the deadline is reached.

[Nolder]

ENIDAMA ETOV ,ETOVNU

 

..sklof siht od ot yrroS .em ot denethgila neeb tsuj sah ecnatropmi fo gnihtemoS

care to enlighten us?

[Nolder]

Plus, I don't see how he has 3 readings, either. A finder that works every day and every night doesn't seem like a very nice role balance-wise, especially with the normal finder, unless the mafia is a crazy powerhouse of souped-up roles. And I doubt Nolder was doubled on Day 1, because then how would Ishy have been doubled?

I'm sorry

I wasn't clear

those are my own personal reads

I do not have any kind of investigative role

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm going to poke Lanth at this point. I really don't want to have to monitor everyone's posting, but even I noticed he's been gone a while.

 

Vote count:

 

Min (5) – Verb, Ishy, Hoof, Raena, Barm

Nolder (3) – Hoof, Des, Red

Ama (2) – Ed, Karas

Vambram (1) – Nolder

Ed (1) – Min

 

 

Not voting – Vam, Meesh, Lanth, Wombat, Sakaea, Ama, Bg

 

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline Thursday 8 PM MST.

[Nolder]

.hguoht eb deen fi etov ym hctiws nac I ,noitnetxe na evah ew dna denioj sah ybmoW ecniS .taht gnituot eb ot em rof ylrae ot yaw sti tub...elpoep rehto emos no SoF a evah od I woN .noitpo laer ylno ekil demees noitseuq s'gB gnirewsna ton enidamA ,niM no decnivnoc t'nsaw I ecnis oS \: dehcnyl teg ot gniyrt seh ebyam -gnikniht detrats I tniop eht ot mih htiw )?sdaer sih( hcum oot gnignip tsuj si radmucs ym tub ,erofeb mih htiw deyalp reven ev'I dnim ni peeK .yalpemag s'redloN tuoba gnikniht saw I tub ,noitalever eguh on ylniatrec sti dna ,)gniht sdrawkcab eht htiw gniyonna dna( gnitcartsid eb thgim ti lleW

I assure you I have no desire to be lynched