[Advanced] Monty Python and the Holy Grail Mafia (Game Over)

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Top of my list right now is BG and GF. I do find it odd that Min revealed overnight when there was not much pressure on her. It looks highly suspicious and has now moved her onto my list of suspects.

 

Same. I'll have to do a reread later, when it calms down at work.

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Sorry Red :/.

 

I think we should look at Christine and Min in the morning.

 

 

I would be okay with GF too.

 

 

Why BG Jack?

 

This is why. I always tend to not trust people when they reveal with a lot of votes on them. I give them the benefit of the doubt if they claim finder or healer. However, I still doubt them. So, I figured I would be unpredictable and reveal during night. You don't have to trust it of course, but I just felt it the best time to do it personally. Sorry about to be lynched in another game and wanted to avoid it here to since I am town.

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Ok, I've done my reread and compiled posts and responses from everyone I named during the night. I'm going to post them in four separate posts because it would be WAAY too long within one post. Also, makes it easier to sift through I think.

 

I'm going to preface this by saying that I only grabbed/responded to posts that I thought were scummy or weird. Therefore, not every single post that one of you made will be on here.

 

BG:

I didn't find all that much on BG to be honest. Pre-reread I was thinking he was a good candidate for scum, but upon so I didn't find as much as I thought I would. Below is what I found.

 

Assuming truth was told by all, we have a silencer and a newter? Which is effectively a silencer.

 

So how about that 4%. Oh, and I don't blame you for not voting yourself Jack... I wouldn't do it either. I also think that FoSing you for it seems a bit shady...

 

This is an odd night. There has been more scummy things said since the random lynch than all Day 2 combined. Must ponder more.

 

The first post that I thought was scummy sounding. Mostly because of the 4% line. We know that Moon was lying about being silenced, so perhaps a mafia member trying to support to idea of two silencers to use later in the game?

 

I wan't implying all your posts should always be big casings, only that you are asking everyone to go along with you and wondering why they are not like you and you are the only one with any brains. "Why wait when something catches your eye?" You had a whole day to think through all the ideas and points you had while quiet, and could have put in a little work into organizing it somewhere, but instead you lash out with copy and pasted stuff as they came to your brain at tons of people and try and get Red back on your good side over and over.

 

And stop trying to take all the credit for discovering Moon's defense of Charis like you single handedly took out the Symp. Moon had plenty of other incriminating posts and things going on. If you hadn't said something about that, someone else would have. It's not that tough to figure out.

 

And dude, you just need to settle down for a bit when someone says something critical about you. It feels like a random message board troll made there way into here trying to pick fights just to pick fights. You blast out all day long at everyone, but when someone responds back, you can't take it. If you'd replied "You misunderstood, here is what I meant..." explaining more clearly what your post meant, then I can be like "Oh, my bad, looks like I didn't understand what you meant. That makes more sense." You'll notice I didn't call you scum, I just thought your post wasn't a good strategy and would be more helpful to scum. Sorry if I misinterpreted what you meant in that post, but what if I wasn't the only one who saw it that way. Others might or might not speak so openly and just suspect you even more.

 

I am not spinning anything. I'm just looking at both sides of the coin.

Again, both your 1) and 2) points assume that Charis will, in fact, be guilty.

I know the advantage of not saying anything as a finder, please don't insult my intelligence like that, but it sounds like you are trying to move the finder's hand for them.

 

 

Give both sides of the story, otherwise you are spinning it.

What happens in your scenario if Charis gets an innocent read? Your idea works if and only if Charis is indeed scum.

 

 

Now follow up to your second post:

 

I've been going back and reviewing Moon's posts with new eyes thanks to the info we gained. I agree that info can be found, but I don't want to be targeted at night while making that sort of casing. I said so earlier. If you want to point out where Moon defended Charis, by all means reference it or quote it, that would be very helpful. I agree that the defense of Charis has implications + charis's other suspect actions. But you like to make it sound like Moon was in love with Charis and defended her to her wits end, dying to save the evil mafia Charis... but in my reviewings I've found places where Moon seems to call Charis scummy at times too... so? I'll let you figure out where that was so you can review a bit yourself. Anyway, more on my opinions of Moon's words and the possible implications in the morning.

A nice defense of Charis.

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GF:

 

Here we are. I concur with the vote cast.

 

First statement of the game…. Is confusing.

 

Vote Wombat

Surely that is a crime against humanity!

 

Third on Wombat BW for not seeing the movie.

 

Hmm, I wonder if the castle anthrax is still open... ... though is it getting late in the day. Think I'll stick to Wombat though.

 

Stays on Womby.

 

Well, I don't know if this furthers anything, but I think it is safe to assume some of the mafia have been active and some passive. They have no need to communicate with each other on thread, and with votes so spread out, they will likely not dare vote the same person: since they will want to blend in as much as possible, that should be very daring at this point.

 

The active mafia member/s will have already drawn attention to themselves, if you'd imagine half the players gone, but it is unlikely they'd care at this point who we lynch, as long as it is none of them and they are not made to look suspicious.

 

I will unvote vote Jack D because his post earlier this page indicated he was looking forward to the night.

 

 

I don’t think it’s ever safe to assume anything in this game. Also, why would you jump to that conclusion right away unless you have access to the QT/mafia roster and you can know who’s been passive? Also, the mention of not daring to vote the same person seems questionable to me.

 

Well I gather folks are considering the prime suspects. I think things can start happening more quickly if we narrow down on a few suspects and discuss them, hopefully not all town. As far as I could see, there's some 15 votes of the 25 cast at the moment, though spread out so that nothing is near decided. I gather the moment someone leads the votes with a margin to the next that those not voted can't sway it, the hammer falls.

 

Well, I'll need to do a reread. I'm still considering wombat by some hunch, I wonder if there could have been a classical case of scum voting scum early on to avoid suspicion but not so late they can't revote however the day went, but I'll stick to my current vote for now.

 

Mostly filler. Sticks with vote due to hunch, which I can’t really refute because sometimes you get those.

 

Ok, well, I hold to my old suspicions on wombat and jack, but cause I wonder, could Moon be behind it all. No, that doesn't make sense, but she's been on the fringes of suspicion. I must reread.

 

I don’t understand the suspicion on Wombat and Jack from GF. Also, why wouldn’t it make sense for Moon to be behind it all?

 

Oh, well, it was the earliest half bandwagon I could get on. Just to stroke the crowd. But what happened later, it indicated I might have caught a villain. Though that was early play, just everyone coming in. Perhaps it matter little?

 

Response after Red asks why Wombat. I find this scummy. What indicated that you may have caught a villain? Why not answer the question that she asked? Why Wombat?

 

Well, personally, I can't make heads or tails of this one, but if Jack isn't guilt, I know nothing.

 

FoS with no reasoning provided.

 

I actually think we need to get rid of Moon, Jack, and Min, in that order.

 

Once again with no reasoning provided. Also, three of the top suspects that everyone had been talking about. Also, no Wombat? Seemed very keen to vote for him before this.

 

These are just hunches. But I've gotten to trust my hunches. Still, I will read on what has happened before tomorrow.

 

Provides reasoning. Like I said earlier, I understand hunches, but surely there is more to go on by now…

 

One of the reasons to name drop without giving reasons would be to see who will jump at me for it.

 

This doesn’t make sense to me because most people –whether those on the list or not- are going to ask why you think someone is scummy if you don’t provide a reason.

 

Yea, guess so:(. Oh, well, completing the read, that is bound to show something.

 

Has talked for days now about rereading the thread, so these are filler posts.

 

I think since we're all aware of Red, she is less of a potential threat. We can always lynch her. Also, the apparent newting of Jack rang to me as a 90% confirmation she was innocent, though I do have beer in front of me. Still, I bet either the red or moon voters feature mafia members for sure this time.

 

I still think use of the word ‘newting’ is weird here.

 

I just find the word newt more fun than silence.

 

Flippant remark to backtrack from the slip?

 

I gather, by what I read, the other option would have been that the cult tried to convert a mafia member, but that does not seem to fit, since no one else died. The mafia must be trying to avoid traces.

 

Once more confusing and also hinting at what the mafia is doing.

 

Oh, I really need to complete my read, sorry I am slow on it to take in details, and I really need to read it again. This is very complicated, now there's new info, but can't make head to toe yet. But we must choose. Vote Wombat. He did seem suspicious from the start. Mafia would vote each other in the beginning.

 

20 pages later and back to voting for Wombat. Not Red, Charis, Min, Jack, or anyone who was under suspicion. Also, once again says going to reread.

 

Charis a few posts later votes for Wombat.

 

I said I preferred the word newting to silencing. However, did we just have a clear mafia-tell? The vote-forcer might even be himself, if he does not know the forcee can't reveal. A chance to lynch a mafia is way too precious to loose. unvote vote charis. (Sorry for the loss, btw!)

 

How interesting that you say that when that was indeed the case…

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Christine:

 

Red went for a No Lynch on day one in the last game, and flipped Mafia. Possible Pattern or Coincidence?

 

Brings up the idea of Red being mafia.

 

Yes GF I'm anticipating night. Get day 1 random quotefest over. Why do scum have to be waiting for night? Can't finders, lie detectors, bogs and other roles be excited?

 

I know GF already sort of touched on this, but I wanted to point it back out again. I know that there is numerous roles that have fun at night, and I can see that being a good excuse, but I still really have a bad feeling about you saying this. This has added JackD to my list of suspicion.

 

I don’t understand why wanting the ‘random’ vote day to be over is such a bad thing. I’ve often felt the need to have day one over with so we can get to the ‘real’ game.

Ugh.... I fear there isn't enough to incriminate Blackhoof, and he says he has a power role.... But the votes are sliding that way. Gah! Given that I don't know if I will be back online before the hammer falls and I don't want us to just miss the deadline....

 

Vote Blackhoof

 

This seems very forced.

 

Hmmm FoS on me because I wanted to make sure my vote got counted and I would rather it be a controlled lynch than a random.org lynch?

 

Sounds defensive.

 

25 Alive so 13 to Lynch. Looks like it is going towards Moon or Min. Gah I don't know which one to vote for, but one of the two is going to flip.

 

More agony that sounds forced.

 

Is it possible for the Mafia to have two silences? There were so many silent, at least one other had to purposely have been silenced. Or is that not possible? I knew you were too quiet Wombat, welcome back!

 

Throws out the idea of two silencers. Why would ‘at least’ one other have to have been purposefully silenced? This leaves credence to Moon’s claim.

 

Wow really? I have never played an Advance game, so I was simply asking if it was possible for there to be two silences? What if there is two mafias? Can't they both get a silence? I was not defending her at all, as I have pointed out numerous times that I think she is scummy. I was questioning the possibility of whether or not she still could have been silenced.

 

That being said, who is to say Wombat really was silenced? Moon could log on lter and say she was silenced. Then so could some of the other players. We can't really know who was silenced for certain.

 

Now, I am not saying I don't think Wombat was silenced. I see no reason for him to silence himself, unless he wants to put up the radar on AJ and Red, but radars were already up on them without him being silenced.

Moon barely scraped by but only because she was silent. I am still leaning towards Jack and Moon, but Red is also out there in my line of sight. Should be interesting to see what happens at the end of the night.

 

Seemingly outraged because people questioned her question. Then gives more support for Moon being silent.

 

Eh, this is only my third mafia game since my rejoin of DM, and it has been a while, and this is my first Advanced, so if I smell newish, it may be that. Just sayin. I asked if there could be two silencers and y'all laughed at me. Then I asked if there could be two Mafia teams, and someone screamed scum. Idk, was just asking if that might be the case.

 

Again, sounds defensive.

 

That being said, over half of the current people alive are voting, and our votes are pretty evenly split. People keep going back and forth between Red and Moon, whether because of band wagoning or trying to have a controlled lynch today, I don't know.

 

Someone mentioned that one of the two is most likely scum, and I have to agree. More than likely, if we lynch one and they flip town, the people that voted for them are mafia. If they flip mafia, then the votes on the other person is the mafia. But of course, this means that there is probably innocents mixed in.

 

With this reasoning, at this point it makes me think that Red is the innocent, since there is more people on her, as more than likely that's the mafia team and a few innocents. It is probably the people that haven't been flipping too. Going to guess the flippers are the innocents.

 

Combining that reasoning with the fact that I really just don't see there being two silencers, and that only one person has turned up silenced today, I am going to say Vote Moon.

 

I’m going to borrow Tina’s response here, because I think it’s a good one:

Isn´t this a strange post? What does the first part mean? If we lynch Red and she is town then all who voted for her are mafia, except for some of them who are town? And the same goes if we lynch Moon and she is town then all who voted for her are mafia, except for some of them who are town. lol.

And it get´s even funnier when you say you vote Moon cos Red has most votes and thereby the mafia team is on her lynch. So by this logic, if Moon will have more votes on her than Red you will then change your vote to Red?

Your second last post was also very weired. Big FOS on you, Christine.

 

Blah, I am gonna go back to keeping my thoughts to myself...

 

What good does that do for the town? For the game?

 

Vote Charis

 

Hammers Charis which inevitably was a good thing, but could it be a teammate sacrificing someone who is already going down?

 

O.O

 

Wow.

 

?? Where is the need for this, and why such surprise? Again, seems forced.

 

Charis flipping scum just makes me think Red is even more scummy.

 

Who we know isn’t.

 

How am I on this list? I was against Charis and she flipped scum. Actually I was against you, Charis, and Jack for having a big tif between eachother. Just seemed too obvious to me that y'all would all be scum. The Gambit, y'all called it. So I am scum for thinking you might be scum?

 

Big reaction for Red just putting her name on a list of suggested people.

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Min:

 

I only voted for Wombat as a joke.

 

The infamous defense when none appeared necessary. (Interesting note: Charis says nearly the same thing.)

 

Then there are more quotes defending the unvote which really seem like you are distancing yourself.

 

Charis I don't think she really pays close attention to what we really say. She just likes to invent stuff or take things out of context to suit her purpose. I know come day I will be voting for her. I wouldn't have until she came after me a second time after I explained to her what I found scummy about what she did. She was over dramatic and honestly it really bothered me that she was kind of flippant with her claim against me. I think with all the people she is pointing at it is obvious she is trying to get any heat away from her. Unfortunately what that says to me is scum. I have played in too many games where people building cases on nothing have turned out to be scum not to vote for her come morning. That is if I am still alive.

 

Heavy suggestion that Red is scummy.

 

Okay, since there is more information now, I will change my vote. However, if he isn't mafia I will feel bad for changing my vote as I truly believe Moon is scum.

Oh, Mod God can we have an official vote count please?

unvote vote Blackhoof

 

Votes Blackhoof after his ‘reveal’ that he had a power role.

Three people then vote for Min in a row followed by Charis interrupting and voting Jack. She also says that she hadn’t had time to look at Min or Moon because of the focus on her. This timing makes Min look really scummy, granted, through no fault of her own.

 

Poor, Jack if Red had a PR it is either gone or someone else has one today. Pertaining to that PR you asked Red to do something if she had a PR. Pfigured you would be smart and see my one post and figure it out. Probably I wasn't clear enough in any of my posts.

 

I don’t understand why you would say that. I know you had one, but her last post before you was keeping up with her ‘PR,’ so what would make you think to say that it’s gone?

 

So, Wombat you suspect me most of all. I find that interesting. Not to mention some of your behavior has seemed odd. People call you on it and you bring up my name. Not meaning to join a bandwagon, but since it is forming I just can't resist. I just hope you really are scum and not just acting scummy. Oh, and if you think it is just an OMGUS you would be wrong.

 

Vote Wombat

 

 

What else IS it then, if not an OMGUS?

 

Okay, I didn't see that one coming.

 

I also thought I had Red's role figured out. Her posts since then have pretty much made me come to realize I was wrong. I have no clue what to think now. I bet whoever is handing out the vote restrictions doesn't know who the mafia is.

 

Well, done all of you for getting scum.

 

Like BG asks after, you really didn’t see this coming at all? Why would you say they don’t know who the mafia is? Lastly, well done all of ‘you’?

 

So, now I am suspect. Fine, I will tell you all straight out. I am the Swamp Castle King, vanilla town. If you wish to lynch me I am fine with it. I will even vote for myself. Red has been full of it since the start and quit frankly her posts didn't help her any. Not that I was around and could have changed my vote if I had wanted to. However, if you think I am scum because I defended myself against Red and didn't want to put up with her taking what I said out of context then fine. I was upset with her for that and felt she was scum for that fact. Not because all of you did, but because it seemed like she was trying to frame me and I know I am town.

 

This reveal strikes me as weird. All I did was say that we should look at you in the morning. In fact, I didn’t even say that you were scummy, necessarily, I just said that I wanted to look closer, so why reveal? I know you said to be unpredictable, but I just don’t understand what good would come out of it.

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I would be happy with a Christine or GF lynch today.

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You know, because of the silencing thing, as I think Red pointed out, I'm fairly certain Wombat is town. My early lists haven't so much striven for accuracy as to see what will happen.

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I think Chris will be a better option personally

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Hmm, vote Min

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I would be okay with a lynch on Christine or GF, but I'm sticking to BG today.

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Hmm again, unvote, vote key. finally getting somewhere with the reread, we have loads of info now. So we have probably a cult member left, but can't recruit. How many of the mafia of the 15 is it, 2-3? While takes 7 is it to lynch, or 8 again? Once the mafia hit someone who was protected, and no kill resulted, by the depiction probably a knight. Hope this practice continues, someone had piqued the interest of both the mafia and the healer, unless they happened to choose the healer. Min almost seemed to sacrifice herself by revealing at night, but still the mafia chose Jack, perhaps with red gone he would have been too dangerous. Early days they killed the more silent members. I am town, you know, btw, so you shouldn't waste a vote on me.

 

Now, during this morning I'll have read much, just through the first day now. I'm never very good at long texts to read . I focus on little bits of concise info which I wring dry. So, I won't notice everything on the read, just whatever draws my attention. Red and Jack are gone, so the dynamics of the game obviously change.

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Why are you voting for me GF?

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Not sure yet, I felt you had a little come out of nowhere with cases right after red and jack were gone, but actually that was more of a town thing to do. I wanted the vote off Min, since on the first day in retrospect, I actually no longer remember why, she seems town. Oh, well, unvote. Better not vote-hop.

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By the way, looking at the first page, the player list, it seems unlikely that aside me and Wombat, that Kiliulu would be mafia either. Would take an awful lot of chance for all mafia to be amongst the first numbers, statistically. Looking at it that way, Player and Amadine should be clear as well. Well, mainly people from the first half of the list have been killed, aside from red who was vanilla and csarmi who was knight robert. Though aside from me, none of the others I mentioned were on the lists, it seems the mafia might also have striven for this, the whole lower half is wide open.

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Oh well, into the 2nd day only, need to take a break or I'll not notice anything at all. I think I'll have to go on a limb of sorts. First, the rereading had me put preliminary question marks on Leelou, Lia, Sak and Alanna. Perhaps one of them are thus mafia.

 

Second, because I'm blowing my cover even more so than earlier, I think red and jack both noticed and covered for me, as have others I think, and since there was an attempted nk at a knight, but I can't be sure the mafia didn't try the healer by accident, as can neither they, I must be worried about being nk'd (If I wasn't fumbling around I must have been trying to avoid nks). I am not seriously enough a suspect or an easy lynch once I start (after checking again) sharing my full thoughts on some things I've noticed on later days (must make sure the info benefits the town).

 

So I will say the following: at this point in the game it is vital to town that I do not die. I can also clear myself at will, which won't happen today, though. It would serve no purpose whatsoever to the town to reveal more, but if I die now the town will lose much. I bid the other knights stay hidden, I can protect you in a fashion, I will not speak out of turn. I must be protected now, though.

 

I hope this helps the people who have not had the objective of staying alive to round up on the skum. I will try as well, though I am inexperienced. I might have done this later today, to allow the mafia perhaps to say something first and slip, but that timing would have become distracting as well, mafia would like distractions in case one of their numbers was suspected. Also, I might have been forced to reveal more than this.

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GF please do not attempt to clear me based on the order of the list - i'm not sure how Krak does his roles but i know when i mod a game i randomise the list of players twice and then the list of roles twice and then set the lists side-by-side to assign the roles, so it's entirely possible for the scum to all end up at one end of the list - unusual yes - but possible.

 

That said i have been highly suspicious of GF since i joined the game and also of Christine - both for the posts that Key outlined above. At this stage i am going to

 

vote Christine

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So I will say the following: at this point in the game it is vital to town that I do not die. I can also clear myself at will, which won't happen today, though. It would serve no purpose whatsoever to the town to reveal more, but if I die now the town will lose much. I bid the other knights stay hidden, I can protect you in a fashion, I will not speak out of turn. I must be protected now, though.

 

I don't normally like half reveals. In fact, they make me more suspicious lol. However, since I'm evenly suspicious of both you and Christine, I'm willing to let it slide today in order to possibly receive more information on this tomorrow (game day).

 

Vote Christine for the reasons I've listed above.

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Wow Key! Nice. You have much more time than I do right now to look back at a lot of things that have happened. I suppose I better respond to what you said of me. The 4% thing is what it is and I don't have much I can say about that. You are right on the other post though, I did kind of defend Charis there, I was kinda tired of the way Jack was posting and treating people and kinda lashed out at him. The point of that post was more anger towards Jack than anything else. At the time, I wasn't convinced that Moon was specifically defending Charis and that was a big basis for Jack's suspicions on Charis. He kept saying it as a fact, when I didn't think so. I did keep Charis on my radar and mentioned as such in the post. In retrospect, I was wrong, and Jack was right. At least he did seem to settle down after that though, so I guess I accomplished my goal.

 

As many may remember, I've been a bit leary of GF for some time. Key's breakdown shows some of the reasons why, and I had referenced some of that before. I'm not going to rehash what I had said before but I'd like to comment on GF's more recent posts. It is understandable that now GF is getting more pressure laid on that she'd (you are a she, correct?) would start posting more to defend herself when she was previously kind of lurkish.

 

What I don't understand is this wishy-washy half reveal. If it is true, it makes sense that you lurked earlier. But why not full reveal? You've already made yourself a target. You've already pretty much told us you are the Healer, without using those words. You've accomplished your goal of power role claim. But currently you are depriving the rest of the town some much needed info. If you are the healer, then it would be good to know who you saved the other day when there was no NK. Gives us another person not to lynch. The way I see it is two possibilities.

 

1. You are the Healer. You don't have lots of experience and you aren't sure the best way to defend yourself and role claim.

 

2. You are faking it. The reason the claim is wishy-washy is so that if the real Healer is claimed, killed, or found out, you still have an exit strategy to find a different role that fits your description. This also keeps you safe from having to disclose your night actions.

 

Then you start vote hopping, which you realized didn't look so good, so retracted. Also your theory about this list spread is ridiculous. The thing about randomness is there is the same chance that the first 6 people on the list could be scum as there is for them to be evenly balanced. I know it doesn't seem that way, but on a singular basis, it is true.

 

Also why bring up these names now? (Leelou, Lia, Sak and Alanna) If you have some reasoning behind them, by all means, share it! This is what you did before. You throw out names and never get back around to explaining why.

 

Now onto other things:

 

Min has been irking me recently too a little, but I can't put my finger on it. The night reveal was indeed odd. But it is more of a feeling than anything.

Wombat is just on the very edge of my radar. I havn't seen Womby as too scummy, but the lynch hammer after Red self voted worries me just a little even though Red encouraged it.

 

I'll be honest in saying I haven't payed too much attention to Christine's posts recently. But Key makes some valid points there.

 

My current main concern are all the people who are just blending into the background. We are getting far enough along that I want to hear more now.

 

@Alanna, I'm flattered. What's the reason?

 

 

 

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LOL well, I don't really. But I made time for it. I was tired of only half-arsing it in this game so far. Also, was tired of misremembering and/or having that niggling feeling because I didn't remember something. Thus, cases.

 

Thank you for the Charis explanation. It makes sense to me and other than that I'm not too sure why people think you are scummy. Maybe one of them will make a case and I can see why :/.

 

Yeah, GF's 'reveal' annoyed me too, though idk about Healer. "I can clear myself at will" is part of what she(?) said. That makes her next after Christine on my list.

 

Min has irked me the whole game lol (not personally, Min, just throughout the playing ), I'm not sure why other than what I said earlier. Mostly it's just that she's stayed in my head since I noted something weird on day one.

 

The people blending comment- true. Where are you peoples?

 

@ Alanna's vote, PR maybe? Only because she says she would be happy with either Christine or GF but then votes for you.

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No, I am male. I've thought the beard should give it away .

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No, I am male. I've thought the beard should give it away .

 

 

Blarghy. My work computer doesn't display the images.

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No, I am male. I've thought the beard should give it away .

 

 

Blarghy. My work computer doesn't display the images.

Ah, well, not such a big issue methinks, online. I guess gf can be misleading, but it took me forever to realise....

 

Ahh, well, as to reasons. Well, I tend to forget the reasons, so I could quote. But I remember them when I read, so tomorrow when I read more, perhaps I can tell. Though those names were just preliminary question marks, I just put them out since I realised I'd take a breather. I think later I can choose a target for a case.

[Sakaea]

Just saying, I've kinda been lurking, but I am here. I would very much like to know why you are raising question marks at me, GF.

Also, I will be out of town the rest of today, and don't want to vote right now. I will re-read some stuff tomorrow, and throw a vote out tomorrow.

 

Ciao

[WWWwombat]

Either works for me Krak :)

 

Same.

 

Ditto.

 

On a side note, how was the red sox game yesterday wombat?

 

It was great. It was hot and I got a mild sunburn but the Sox won so it was worth it.

 

Vote: Min

 

Don't care about her reveal.