Wheel of Time Mafia Game Thread

[Myndrunner]

Did your alignment change with your mind?

[dapianoplay3r]

haha, no but your mind doesnt have to change with you alignment anyway. I could have been wrong or i could have been right.

I just want to make sure I keep an eye on those there just in case. I would only start voting an shouting scum if something similar happened again and it involved one of those 3.

I think that's a fair enough statement though. After all I was lynched for that reason. If I hadn't of died I probably would have held to my original view, even if I did change to this new character.

I think looking at Min's lynch is a good idea and that seems like a good place to start

[Adella]

I feel that we are limiting ourselves by focusing on that small group of people who had night actions. We took out a limited finder already and I'm sure the mafia is just laughing their butts off at us over it. We need to broaden our view back to include everyone. I'm not saying ignore those people, keep an eye on them just in case one of them slips up but I don't want to force a reveal for any healers or other finders that may or may not have been on that list.

 

I'm done with us doing the mafias dirty work for them. Let's refocus on everyone and our highest suspicions, list or no list.

[Locke]

My thoughts exactly. Well, except for the mafia laughing their butts off part. It never occurred to me they'd initiate that physical reaction in response to us lynching Elmindreda.

[Vambram]

In my mind, us players lynched a couple of characters whom we would rather not have been lynched. Clearly, we did this in our zeal to have a controlled lynching. I propose that everyone be much more careful about lynchings from here on out.

 

 

[hotpocket2006]

 

 

What we know is that 4 people targeted Aemon. One was a bus driver, another a finder of a sort, another I believe to be Innocent, and another was silenced. If Aemon is scum, I could see the mafia not targeting him, if he's Innocent perhaps they thought he would be protected or their roles wouldn't be as useful used on him. I don't know as I'm not on a mafia team, but we should approach with open minds before making assumptions. (And I could see a mafia person whose team didn't target Aemon try to convince everyone there would obviously be scum on that list, knowing that if there is, they're not their team's scum)

 

to the underlined bolded part. misdirection, or honestly missing Song's words a few pages back.

 

she told us that Womby messed up, that he had given her the list of people who had targetted me. yes she was supposed to be effected by the BD, but she wasn't due to Mod Error (which is likely to happen in a game this big with this many NA *snuggles Womby*)

 

my question is, is this done on purpose of by mistake.

 

 

 

Erm, you've got me confused now. What I understood was that Song targeted Red and should have been switched to targeting Aemon, thus seeing all the people that originally target Red. But since Wombat forgot to switch her, she ended up seeing the people that originally targeted Aemon.....

 

Locke is correct.

[CurtisScafe]

From all of this I know a few players not to lynch

[keyholder21]

I feel that we are limiting ourselves by focusing on that small group of people who had night actions. We took out a limited finder already and I'm sure the mafia is just laughing their butts off at us over it. We need to broaden our view back to include everyone. I'm not saying ignore those people, keep an eye on them just in case one of them slips up but I don't want to force a reveal for any healers or other finders that may or may not have been on that list.

 

I'm done with us doing the mafias dirty work for them. Let's refocus on everyone and our highest suspicions, list or no list.

 

I have to agree with Adella, we're solely focusing on just those people that Song saw targeting Aemon. That's not bad necessarily to discuss those people, but we also shouldn't completely disregard the others that we thought were suspicious before Song's reveal.

[WWWwombat]

I have not received all night actions, but I am ending night now as I said would end it today.

[WWWwombat]

Perrin lay on his stomach. They were camped in a field somewhere. Perrin rubbed his nose at an unpleasant smell as he watched his target’s tent. A woman had entered and hadn’t come out. He had only caught a glimpse of her as she walked in. Maybe he would get a better look when she came out. Perrin heard a rustle of leaves behind him and turned. That foul smell wouldn’t go away. Leaves rustled off to his right and Perrin turned his sharp eyes that way. Just a man with a dagger. Perrin returned his attention to the tent. Wait, a man with a dagger? He snarled as he realized what he had been smelling. Notdead. Young Bull bounded forward on powerful limbs and slammed into the notdead. They grappled for a minute until finally, Young Bull was able to kill the notdead with his own tooth. Young Bull was lathered and panting.

 

“Impressive.”

 

Perrin turned quickly to see two pits of fire staring at him. Ba’alzamon.

 

“You will meet the same end.” Perrin growled, sounding braver than he felt. If only he had his axe. No matter; wolves didn’t need axes. Young Bull snarled as he leapt at Heartfang. Heartfang lifted his hands, and suddenly a burning pain consumed Young Bull’s body. Perrin screamed. Ba’alzamon walked over slowly as Perrin tried to make his muscles work. Ba’alzamon reached down with hands that let off a black smoke. The hands touched Perrin’s face. Perrin could feel his face burning. He screamed. The pain burned hotter. And then, he knew no more.

 

Song, Perrin Aybara, Watcher (town) has been nightkilled.

 

It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end on Friday at noon EST

[hotpocket2006]

wtf. bah. Go town ^^

[bgrishinko]

The Darkfriends were getting smarter and more manipulative... First Min, and now Perrin. Bgrishinko felt sorrow for them and wondered how the Last Battle would be won without one of the 3 Ta'veren. He thought about the suspicion that was laid out that Perrin had named and how easily the townsfolk were thrown into a state of chaos. He did not doubt that there was indeed a Darkfriend among those few, but the majority of them were normal people that walked in the light. The risk being too high, Bgrishinko decided to let those others go for now and focus on the suspicions of the first day as some of the others had mentioned.

[WWWwombat]

With 31 alive, it takes 16 to lynch.

[bgrishinko]

Bgrishinko had previously been suspicious of the one known as Blackhoof and continues to be so. Nothing he had said or done had helped alleviate his ideas, which had been laid out previously. He thought about making a case for him at this time, but as he went to search the archives of town's conversations felt daunted by the task and thought to wait until another time. He had changed his vote yesterday near the end to jump on the bandwagon... sadly though the town was wrong. For now though, he wanted to make his intentions clear by being the first to VOTE: BLACKHOOF

[dapianoplay3r]

But Perrin can't die!

That sucks. Ill miss you song. I like the games your in.

[killuliu]

We've lost both faile and perrin :/

 

But yes, I agree that we should think "out of the box" and not only focus on those three. Ofc we should pay attention to them, and if someone can confirm that one of them did something scummy at night, then we should go after him, right?

Curt: if you for some reason know who not to lynch, please share with us.

 

And my thoughts about killing Song: I think she saw at least one scum the first night, because otherwise mafia wouldn't be "afraid" and kill her. If all who she saw were innocent, then they wouldn't bother with killing her, instead letting her continue and conufse us more (it is confusing when we get four names that acted a tad bit scummy during night, and they are towns!), but as if one or more of them were mafias, they would feel threatened as Song could see them the second time and then it would be pretty easy to draw some conclusions.

Or then mafia killed Song just so they'd be sure they are going to kill a special.

Or then mafia killed Song just so someone would think like I did and be more confused and suspect those remaining three people (who could be town).

[Amadine]

That's a nice WIFOM you just created there Killu

[aemonkristen]

Let's all vote for MYND

[Blackhoof]

The day before, Bgrishinko had felt bad for trench. Trench's plight had worried BG and he felt maybe he could help. He felt that granting the gift of normal speech to trench would be a kind thing to do. It is true, that he had thought that this would help him better understand trench's intentions as well.

 

Hmmm.... a valid excuse, i think, one that has thrown everyone else off. Perhaps i should not be looking in to this, for that reason, but i will anyway. Why would you steal that item? Why would anyone want to have to talk in rhyme (which was the conclusion at the time of the theft).

 

Perhaps you are telling the truth, but i am in a cynical mood. Do you have any idea how hard it is to talk in little poems :P No-one would bring that upon themsleves unless they thought it was worth it. If you were town, you would have left it in Trenches hands, since you had no reason to think that he was mafia, since there was basically no heat on him at all.

 

It is also possible that you are mafia, and stole the item since you figured that it would have a good power along with the curse. A town, you would think, would not steal an item unless there was good cause to believe it was in mafia hands.

 

Im not gonna vite, yet, but im just saying you look suspicious

 

It appears as though We were mistaken about Player. :\

 

why do you say We? you were really quiet the entire day and i don't relaly rememebr you giving much to the conversation. i already have a FOS pointed at you dude, and your not doing much to get me to lift it.

 

Well, what can i do? I explained myself, that is all there is to it, take it or leave it.

 

Besides, i didnt say anything because all was said already. What more could i add? I voted (well, tried to)for him because he seemed a logical choice for lynch, and we were approaching deadline. Ergo, 'we' were wrong.

 

@Aemon: dude, that was like, completely random. I think we know who is the target of scum compulsion today.

[Aust]

Guys I'm back now and able to talk today. I was silenced for a full cycle, not able to post/emote anything at all - it's a nasty talent, whoever has that.

 

I'm running out the door to work but I can tell you briefly that I targeted Aemon the first night - and if I'm understanding correctly, my NA was redirected to Red?

[Virtuhall]

Hey guys I am still alive and here. Sorry that RL took a crap with work this weekend and I am almost finally caught up. I did a quick skim so to get an idea and my stomach dropped... Min and Perrin? We were doing so well after day 1. We can recover from this. I will post later today after make a more thorough read through and see if I can find any hints how this happened. I know this is a useless post exept to check in but I hope to contribute more later when I have looked over more with a keen eye. <hiding in a corner crying> I loved Min & well Perrin after he got his head out of his <bleep>

[Red2111]

sucks to lose Song, i wonder if her item was the Axe or the Hammer. and only 1 kill last night ... thats interesting.

 

chances are all 13 forsaken are the single Mafia. man thats a huge scum team but the lack of 2 NK's point to only 1 scum team. do you guys think we might have a smaller scume team & a cult (maybe the Children)

 

good to have you back Aust. a fresh pari of eyes looking at the lynch on Player woudl be nice; care to give us your thoughts?

 

Erm, you've got me confused now. What I understood was that Song targeted Red and should have been switched to targeting Aemon, thus seeing all the people that originally target Red. But since Wombat forgot to switch her, she ended up seeing the people that originally targeted Aemon.....

 

now i'm confused.

 

Song said the people she saw targetted me, atleast thats what i thought she said. i'll have to go back *twitches* and read to be sure *twitches*

 

i guess really who they targetted doesn't matter, as the end result is the same

 

 

 

In my mind, us players lynched a couple of characters whom we would rather not have been lynched. Clearly, we did this in our zeal to have a controlled lynching. I propose that everyone be much more careful about lynchings from here on out.

 

*raises eyebrow* so your regreatful for us lynching Be'lal are you? because us players have only lynched 2 people so far, only 1 has ended up as innocent. thats pretty good odds if you ask me, especially in a game this big.

 

FOS @ Vam

 

 

Let's all vote for MYND

 

care to enlighten us as too why?

[Verbal32]

Let's all vote for MYND

 

 

Just to confirm, I was under Compulsion yesterday to vote Aemon. While a few people speculated on how detailed the person should use Compulsion to hide it, I'm thinking it might be only to force a vote (i.e. a vote stealer). We can watch and figure that out, but this early post does look like Aemon might have been the new target. Wombat gave me permission to state that I was under it, so I expect somebody to come forward pretty much every day. The reason we should do this is to help avoid fake claims of Compulsion from the mafia.

 

And I did not want to lynch Aemon yesterday, in case that wasn't obvious.

[Myndrunner]

I'm not taking off the docket that Verbal and Aemon are mafia and Verbal is trying for the academy award pretending to have compulsion. Having said that, we have a long way to go to test that theory, so its safer to assume Verb was compulsed and Aemon is now under the same spell.

 

Having said that, with all due respect, if you were a player with some kind of protective player and DIDN'T protect Songs last night, then you really should turn in your mafia badge right now. I mean, come on! SRSLY?!

 

*facepalm*

 

Let me spell it out to you as I would a kid in DIAPERS, since saying this last night would have told the mafia who to kill:

 

1) Songs was pretty much confirmed innocent by the logic that she couldn't have lied about her power. It was confirmed by several players.

 

2) With a confirmed watcher in play, we could track who targeted who each night and gain a lot of info on just one piece of info.

 

3) The fact that Songs WAS killed leads me to believe the mafia did see her as dangerous, which FURTHERS the reason we should have protected her.

 

Spare us the attempts to look innocent by going "Oh noes, we lost an innocent player!" We lost our Watcher last night, who gave us a ton of information on a lot of different people with just one night action. Why protecting her last night didn't occur to any of you is beyond my understanding, with perhaps the notion that you were either blocked or figured that it was too obvious. Otherwise, I can't believe we let this happen. I hate to say it, but I am very disappointed in our healers right now. Good thing the game isn't over, and we have time to make up for this EPIC FAIL....

 

What we do have is information. Obviously, the mafia felt Songs and her information were enough of a threat to send the kill order on her. Does that mean we were close with one of the Red Visitors 5 being mafia? Or was it more the CLEAR and OBVIOUS understanding that her power would be a major threat to them?

 

Also, Aust confirms he was silenced. We can believe that as much as we can believe Verb and Aemon were/are under compulsion. For now, let's roll with it because it can help us narrow down who to look at. If we eliminate who is innocent, we then can know who is not so much.

 

What else do we know now?

[Myndrunner]

 

In my mind, us players lynched a couple of characters whom we would rather not have been lynched. Clearly, we did this in our zeal to have a controlled lynching. I propose that everyone be much more careful about lynchings from here on out.

 

*raises eyebrow* so your regreatful for us lynching Be'lal are you? because us players have only lynched 2 people so far, only 1 has ended up as innocent. thats pretty good odds if you ask me, especially in a game this big.

 

FOS @ Vam

 

 

Red, I cannot find the post you quoted, but I do recall seeing it. It definitely caught my eye. Was it deleted?

Vambram until this is resolved.