Charmed mafia - Game over - congrats Charmed Ones, innocents, and Mottlee

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

One question. Why would I wait until now to accuse you? I could of said this day one but I viewed someone and they came up with paige. Like I said test me by lynching myself or jade. If you lynch me you loose your finder and you get scum in the morning. If you lynch jade I can view someone tonight and get a scum or I can confirm an innocent. why would I risk a lynch by accusing a revealed player unless I knew it to be false. I couldn't build a case against a revealed player. So my only course of action was to reveal myself.

[Minuet]

You still haven't answered the question of who you are.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Also I'm Phoebe I get premonitions by touching peoples clothes. Need anymore specifics?

[Minuet]

Now it goes to who we believe I suppose. Obviously you can't both be telling the truth. Oh, and you brat you have my favorite character. You can tell Lily did this random or I so would have gotten that role. Unless you are lying. Urgh this is just too much to process right now. I don't know who to believe anymore and it seems that my knowledge of the show only adds more confusion to be honest.

[Charis alAslan]

I find it weird Pete says he's Phoebe right after someone suggested he could be Phoebe...

[Minuet]

Yeah, I do too. We have until Monday. I want to wait for those who are on LoA to return so we get more opinions. At this point I am finding it hard to believe Pete.

[Naeann]

I also find it odd that he hasnt answered my question about why he didn't check Jade.  He just RANDOMLY picks someone else and they magically happen to be the exact person Jade claimed to be?  Those are wild odds Pete.

[el Nynaeve]

I was thinking it over last night and I realised what was bothering me about Pete's reveal. He was quite pushy about it, he revealed and then got well, annoyed, when no one immediately jumped on it. Why so pushy about it? Unless he has something to hide and he wants us to lynch Jade to cover it up?

[mottlee]

wow well i must say this makes it alot more interesting. who to believe thats the question. everyone makes good points. so if pete is false revealing then who is the finder why haven't they come forward the same for jade. ??? well i'll just have to wait till everyone comes back

 

oh and by the way happy thanks giving to all those celebating it.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

So Lynch me or her. My death won't be on vain. I am getting annoyed because I love being the finder and I want to help the town. Also I didn't view jade because I figured with no counter claim she was as she said and that narrowed down my viewing field. Also how would I know about the premonitions and touching peoples clothes? I have never watched the show, only in passing have I saw it. Also i get a random viewing if I don't send in my night action. Now what do you all think of those specifics? 

[Naeann]

I've never seen a mod give the finder a random viewing if they don't submit an action.  Usually you use it or you lose it.  I still don't buy that either you randomly found the "real" paige or the mod randomly gave you the viewing of the "real" paige.  You play better than that Pete.

[el Nynaeve]

I think that makes no sense. Why would a mod send you a random viewing if you don't send in your night action. If you are the finder, why would you not send in a night action?

[Naeann]

Exactly... sorry [glow=red,2,300]Pete[/glow].  I'm not buying what you are selling.

[Wolfie]

I don't buy it either. [glow=red,2,300]Pete[/glow] You are right Nae he does play better than this.I'm wondering if he wants to get lynched. It sure doesn't sound like him.

[Jaydena]

Yes and Phoebe doesn't just get premonitions from clothing Pete, she gets them off of skin, objects, etc. So that just made me more suspicious of you. All I can say is that if he really is Phoebe perhaps we should hold off lynching him and have the "finder" who I am suspecting is hiding because they know I can't protect everyone, view him. Course than they would have to reveal at that point. *ponders*

[Charis alAslan]

Will the real Finder, pls stand up? Or at least the real Phoebe?

[Minuet]

We have several people on LoA because of the holidays. I am thinking that either 1) the finder doesn't want to reveal because as Jade said she can't protect everyone or 2) they are LoA at the moment and don't know what is going on. I know if I was the real finder I wouldn't reveal. Pete has pretty much dug his own hole and why reveal when it looks like it may not be necessary. Pete if instead of the way you revealed you had come out and said, "I am Phoebe and the Finder, I found the real Paige last night and Jade is not her." We would tend to believe you more. Instead you came out very aggressive and said she was lying. It took us how many pages before you revealed you were Phoebe and that was after it was suggested that was your possible character. If you didn't know about the show then it would have taken a suggestion like that for you to know. Not to mention Naeann provided us with that great link. You could have done some homework at that point and gotten your story worked out.

I am going to hold off on voting still. I am finding it hard to believe your story, but I want those who are on LoA to come back or will wait till Monday and see how things develop. You also throwing a snit is not helping your cause. It didn't help Jade either. I just don't know who to believe. Either she came up with a better story because of her knowledge of the show or you did some homework to come up with a better role reveal. Either way I think one of you is mafia as you both can't be right. So, when we lynch one of you and if you turn out to be who you say you are we have our next target is my thinking. That is unless the real finder wants to come forward. At this point I wouldn't however if I had the role. Would make too easy a night kill for the mafia and honestly we can't afford that. We are already two innocents down. I just hate the thought of loosing one of the sisters. That is why I am so hesitant to vote.

Not to mention I think with the time extension we don't need to vote yet.

I do agree with Naeann and Wolfie that Pete you normally play better then this. So, it gives us all much to ponder over the next few days.

[Charis alAslan]

I agree with Min on this.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

I'm at Disney world and to tell the truth I haven't really read the thread. I never saw the post about someone suggesting me being Phoebe. I think if I get lynched people need to look at Mae wolfie and jade. Because my cornorer report will prove everyone wrong and then something may be learned upon my death. 

[Minuet]

Okay, now you are doing the same thing Jade did. Jump on the people who vote for you first. Overreacting can we say. I think Nae and Wolfie are probably just coming to the same conclusion the rest of us are. We can't all be mafia after all. Okay we are down to 12 players. I don't want to lynch a sister. So, will wait till others come back with their opinion. If not I would have already voted too. Would that make me mafia as well Pete? I mean just because people aren't buying what you are selling does not make them mafia. If Nae or Wolfie turn out to be mafia, one I will be totally shocked and two will of course regret coming to their defense. I only know my role and well it is vanilla, but I of course am not going to let you know what it is. Let's just say that the sisters are not the only one with wonderful stuff they can do to mess with the mafia's night actions. Lily was a genius when she set this game up is all I have to say.

Pete I know you are at Disney World, however if you are going to post it might be worth your while to read the threads so you know what all we are saying about you. Yes, your coroner's report will tell us the truth and so will Jade's.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

All I am saying is the finder is more important thean the healer. If you lynch me you lose a lot if you lynch the real healer (I.e. Not jade) you will lose a lot but not as much as losing the finder. You all should at least err on the side of caution. I hope there is a counter claim so you all will get another mafia in the open upon my lynch. Besides if you lynch jAde then my innocense is confirmed, one less person for everyone to worry about. Unless you all think I am pulling a gambit with the lovely jade. And if you lynch me you are guarenteed a mafia lynch the next day. I hope you all decide to keep me around. And min it isn't suspicous for me to accuse those two of being scum when I am the finder and they threw votes on me trying to start a bandwagon. Why it is scummy for me not to do so.  ;D

[Naeann]

Pete I don't care if you noticed her say you might be Phoebe or not...  I care that you DIDN'T check Jade's story by viewing her, apparently didn't even submit an action at all, say Lily RANDOMLY GAVE you a viewing anyways... and that that person MAGICALLY was the REAL Paige.  I DONT BUY IT.  Unless this real paige  comes forward then something is extremely fishy about your whole story.  Sitting there spitting out accusations at me when I have solid reasons for doubting you makes your case even weaker.

 

 

Happy you are at Disney world you lucky brat.  But that doesn't give you a reason to skim over the game.  Either announce a loa or pay attention.  I don't play favors for people who just choose to skim.  What good will your roll do if you are tellin the truth but so is Jade?  She's likely the only healer.  Then the mafia would just take you out.  Either way here... one of you lying, or both telling the truth... we will end up losing at least one important role.  So you take some time out of your busy Disney world schedule to explain... or go on a loa from being too busy to keep up with the game.  Otherwise the vote stays.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

I selected a person to view nae. I was just giving out more specifics to try and alleviate doubt. The reason I didn't view jade is because I believed her. There was no counter claim and no reason to not believe her until I found the real Paige. I had a good reason for viewing the person I did. I will not reveal the real paige because of her role and the mafia would certainly go after one of us. Rite now l, myself being the finder, am the target for the mafia.

[Naeann]

Look at it from EVERYONE ELSE IN THE GAME's viewpoint.  Would you buy your story?  You randomly chose someone other than Jade to view and, like magic, you found EXACTLY who she was claiming to be.  If you did submit an action then what was that bollocks about Lily would have given you someone random had you not submitted an action?  I totally and completely do not understand anything coming from you.

Ok...

 

1. There were 14 to start the game.  Lavina(?) was lynched and you wouldnt view yourself.. that leaves 12.  You took Jade at her word and instead viewed a random other person out of the other 11 players.  You, in some magical stroke of genious and a 1 in 11 shot.. happened to chose the exact person who really is Paige. (you can make that out of 10 cause I'm NOT paige.. obviously.)

 

2. You come up with some bollocks about Lily letting you get a random view if your action isn't submitted.  Making us believe you didn't even submit an action.  That makes your 1 in 10 shot even greater.  Cause that would mean the mod randomly gave you the exact person Jade was claiming.

 

3. After like 5 times of me asking you about all this you FINALLY give me a little bitty paragraph.  You know what?  It's either no one believes your shaky story and you die...or this "real" paige comes forward to save the finder... because too much of this doesn't add up at all.

 

4.  Even if I believed Jade because there was no counterclaim I'd still have viewed her... for the simple reason of something like what you are claiming could happen.  M5. You then say no, you DID submit an action.  Where did that crap about getting a random finding if you didn't submit an action come from then?  I'd actually like mod confirmation on that but I doubt Lily would give it because that would prove or disprove you are a lying liar who lies.

 

6. When people don't buy your story you pull a Jade and say we must be mafia because we don't believe you.  I'd have voted you from the start of your claim with some small little "reasoning" and left it at that if I was a mafia.  Instead of that I looked at what both you and Jade said and took alot of time to decide which of you I felt was lying.  I'm also making quite alot of points that make 21000 percent sense as to why I find your story shaky with a bunch of holes.  I will profusely apologize if I'm wrong here but gimme a break Pete.  Would you buy any of what you've said if you weren't you?  You aren't even defending yourself much on this... just saying you skimmed the thread and totally missed things people said because you are "too busy".aybe the real deal is hiding out instead of revealing for fear the mafia claimed that role to dig them out of hiding.

 

 

[Naeann]

OK I totally pasted that last bit in the wrong spot for the last two points.

 

This should read...

 

4.  Even if I believed Jade because there was no counterclaim I'd still have viewed her... for the simple reason of something like what you are claiming could happen.  Maybe the real deal is hiding out instead of revealing for fear the mafia claimed that role to dig them out of hiding.

 

 

and disregard it at the end of point 6 after the "too busy" part.  That was meant to be the end.