I seem to have noticed something totaly overlooked

[pyro09]

I seem to have noticed something totaly overlooked by the WoT fans in my school. Moraine is part of Rands family. Not blood related but Rands mother was married to Taringail Damodred whos half sister is Moraine Damodred. Rands true father actualy lead the Aiel who killed Laman Damodred who would have been Rands "uncle"? So maybe there was something a lil deeper that the chance Moraine Damodred was in the chamber when Gitara Moroso had her foretelling that Rand had been born which sent her on her way to finding Rand and guideing him. I dont know but it seems more then coincidence that the Damodred family is mentioned so much and nothing is really said about it. Oh and Galad is his half-brother and so far (book 9) nothing is really said about it.

[Duneflayer]

don't worry u havn't overlooked it go back to the deep resecces of this forum and you'll find a topic on it somewhere trust me everything has been talked about and disscussed lol sry to pop yur bubble

[motblades]

don't worry u havn't overlooked it go back to the deep resecces of this forum and you'll find a topic on it somewhere trust me everything has been talked about and disscussed lol sry to pop yur bubble

 

lol, I was thinking the same thing as soon as I noticed the thread title.  Us WoT fans sure know how to beat a horse to death, don't we!

[Besolyn]

Rand knows he has a half brother from the story of his parents Amys told, and he knows it's Galad because he knows Tigraine was his mother (and that he's not kin to Elayne).

 

I don't think Galad has a clue he has another half sibling, but it's one of the major things I'm looking forward to seeing in AMoL

 

Oh, and I want Galad to be who kills their uncle Luc/Isham

Or maybe Nyneve, since (looking like Lan) he shot at her in T'A'R

[DaTaimsta]

I've always thought about these connections. How close their family trees are woven together is pretty interesting. If Rand's father led the Aiel that killed Laman, who would be Rand's "uncle" then he was killing his brother. Moiraine is Elayne and Gawyn's aunt, and Galad and Rand's aunt by marriage I suppose.

[mb]

About this being discussed before, I mention it briefly in this thread:

http://forums.dragonmount.com/index.php/topic,36597.0.html

I imagine there might be some other threads that mention it.

 

Rand knows he has a half brother from the story of his parents Amys told, and he knows it's Galad because he knows Tigraine was his mother (and that he's not kin to Elayne).

From what I read so far, Rand has not yet acknowledged that Galad is his half-brother.

His knowledge of Galad being Tigraine's son comes from Dyelin not from Amys.  The not being kin to Elayne comes from Elenia.

 

If Rand's father led the Aiel that killed Laman, who would be Rand's "uncle" then he was killing his brother.

The books do not tell of Jandiun (Rand's father) having any brothers.

Luc is/was not Jandiun's brother; the more accurate term would be brother-in-law.

 

 

About Slayer getting killed, it being by Galad would be improbable since Slayer has not yet threatened Galad's life nor has plans to kill Galad.

If Slayer does get killed, the likely candidates for the killer would be these::

-Perrin

-Nynaeve

-Elayne

-Egwene

-Rand

-maybe Lan

The first 4 because they have met him; Rand because of Slayer's plan to kill him; Lan because Slayer might be an obstacle to regaining the Malkier throne.

 

[Majsju]

 

 

About Slayer getting killed, it being by Galad would be improbable since Slayer has not yet threatened Galad's life nor has plans to kill Galad.

If Slayer does get killed, the likely candidates for the killer would be these::

-Perrin

-Nynaeve

-Elayne

-Egwene

-Rand

-maybe Lan

The first 4 because they have met him; Rand because of Slayer's plan to kill him; Lan because Slayer might be an obstacle to regaining the Malkier throne.

 

 

You miss the most likely candidate of them all, Fain. Slayer has had a mission since TSR to hunt down and kill Fain, and it seems a bit odd to have several references to this without ever having them face eachother. And when they do, my money is on Fain to be the one walking away from that encounter alive.

 

As for other candidates, maybe Perrin if they by chance ran into eachother in T'A'R. (Or, if Slayer gets an order to kill Perrin, given Moridins order in KOD. This would make Mat a possibility as well)

Maybe Rand if Slayer makes another assassination attempt and gets caught in the act. (This of course requires Slayer to not have heard about Moridin being back in the Hands-off Rand camp).

None of the others would have any reason to face off with Slayer. I have heard some say Lan, just so he can get revenge for the death of Malkier. However, Isam was a child when this happened, and I can not see Lan being the kind of guy who would see it justified to kill Isam because of what the parents did.

[Jethro]

Yeah I remember thinking that all this time when people discussed the "Andors royal line" thing, Ive always thought it was Rand as soon as we found out about Tigraine being Rands mum.

[Besolyn]

Rand knows he has a half brother from the story of his parents Amys told, and he knows it's Galad because he knows Tigraine was his mother (and that he's not kin to Elayne).

From what I read so far, Rand has not yet acknowledged that Galad is his half-brother.

His knowledge of Galad being Tigraine's son comes from Dyelin not from Amys.  The not being kin to Elayne comes from Elenia.

 

His knowledge of the existence of a half brother comes from Amys. Amys tell the story of Shaile, saying she left behind a “son she loved, and a husband she didn’t”.

 

 

As for the other I was typing in a hurry. Sorry for the confusion  :)

 

[Alderthal]

I doubt Moiraine and Rand are related in any close way. She might be a distant aunt. Remember, Damodred is a Noble House, and noble houses tend to have tons of nobles in them, with a high seat who leads it, but several branches that aren't directly related. (E.G. When Rand goes to Caraline Damodred's and Darlin's camp in Cairhein with Min, she calls him Tomas Trakand, from a distant branch of the family).

 

I think Moiraine's father was Laman's brother (I believe this is mentioned in New Spring). I'm not certain of Taringail's connection to Laman, but weren't they brothers as well (I seem to remember Taringail wanting his children to take the thrones of Cairhien and Andor). So let's see, that'd make Galad a cousin to Moiraine, Rand is his half-brother from his mother's side. That's the closest connection I can see between Moiraine and Rand.

[Mr Ares]

I think Moiraine's father was Laman's brother (I believe this is mentioned in New Spring). I'm not certain of Taringail's connection to Laman, but weren't they brothers as well (I seem to remember Taringail wanting his children to take the thrones of Cairhien and Andor). So let's see, that'd make Galad a cousin to Moiraine, Rand is his half-brother from his mother's side. That's the closest connection I can see between Moiraine and Rand.

Moiraine is Laman's niece, Tarinagail's half-sister. So Taringail is also Laman's nephew. Making Laman Galad's great-uncle, and Moiraine his half-aunt. Rand is no close relation to Moiraine.

 

Luc is/was not Jandiun's brother; the more accurate term would be brother-in-law.

And as Janduin and Shaiel were not married, even that would be inaccurate.

 

The first 4 because they have met him; Rand because of Slayer's plan to kill him; Lan because Slayer might be an obstacle to regaining the Malkier throne.

Assuming Lan wants to regain the throne, rather than just avenge a dead country, as seems to be the case.

 

Moiraine is Elayne and Gawyn's aunt, and Galad and Rand's aunt by marriage I suppose.

No. Elayne, Gawyn and Galad all share a father, but Galad has a different mother to the others, who is also Rand's mother. Galad, Gawyn and Elayne's father is Taringail Damodred, Moiraine's half-brother, making her biological aunt to all of them. She is no relation to Rand, by blood or marriage, except perhaps very distantly.

 

Moiraine is not related to Rand by marriage, because Shaiel/Tigraine was not married when she gave birth to Rand. "Born of a maiden, wed to no man."

[DemandredFO]

I hope this does become one of those Darth Vader threads.

[Graendals favourite]

I hope this does become one of those Darth Vader threads.

[shadow=red,left]It is its destiny![/shadow]

[Duneflayer]

i'm confused

[trakand_01]

I hope this does become one of those Darth Vader threads.

[shadow=red,left]It is its destiny![/shadow]

 

If we can link Asmodean in here somehow we've got the perfect 'most annoying and over-done thread' of all time...  ;D

 

Mr Ares has it in a nutshell though really. Watch Eastenders - half-siblings, aunts that are cousins and married/not married distant relationships all become stunningly clear!

 

Is Caraline Moiraine's full or half-sister/cousin? I remember Min remarking how much like Moiraine she looked/sounded when they met.

[Mr Ares]

I hope this does become one of those Darth Vader threads.

[shadow=red,left]It is its destiny![/shadow]

If we can link Asmodean in here somehow we've got the perfect 'most annoying and over-done thread' of all time...  ;D

Well, maybe Asmo felt a disturbance in the Force before he was killed...with a lightsaber. Wielded by Darth Graendal.

 

Mr Ares has it in a nutshell though really. Watch Eastenders - half-siblings, aunts that are cousins and married/not married distant relationships all become stunningly clear!

But why anyone continues to live on Albert Square, why anyone ever has a party in the Vic, why anyone is still willing to work for Ian Beale, and why anyone ever says anything along the lines of everything going well, or everythings going to be all right, or anything that indicates the possibility of happiness any time more distant than 10 minutes in the future, given how all of these things indicate everything inevitably going tits up in a way guaranteed to generate maximum misery, becomes a bigger mystery as time goes by.

 

Is Caraline Moiraine's full or half-sister/cousin? I remember Min remarking how much like Moiraine she looked/sounded when they met.

They are cousins.

[trakand_01]

I hope this does become one of those Darth Vader threads.

[shadow=red,left]It is its destiny![/shadow]

If we can link Asmodean in here somehow we've got the perfect 'most annoying and over-done thread' of all time...  ;D

Well, maybe Asmo felt a disturbance in the Force before he was killed...with a lightsaber. Wielded by Darth Graendal.

 

 

Dont... it's a slippery, slippery slope...

[Angel of Death]

It has always creeped me out that Elayne and Rand are lovers and share a half brother (Galad). Though opposite sides of his parentage.