Mat's Marriage

[SwordGuard]

Mat has to be my favorite character in Wot. He is just so damn cool!!!!! Now I really don't think that Mat is gonna let himself be tied down with something like marriage. I'm sorry I just don't see it. Mat not carousing in taverns, pinching serving girls, GAMBLING???????It is just to weird I really don't think it's gonna happen.....

[Luckers]

It's already happened. Mat is officially married as of the end of KoD.

[Jelly]

There's always divorce.

[CUBAREY]

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I'm sorry I just don't see it. Mat not carousing in taverns, pinching serving girls, GAMBLING????It is just to weird I really don't think it's gonna happen.....

 

He will still dance with barmaids and gamble but pinching serving girls is definately out. (Tuon's father is said to have been a gambler)

 

There's always divorce.

 

In the case of the "Prince of Ravens" I think divorce entails being stuffed into a silk bag, having the bag hanged from a tall tower and being left to die. I think Mat will avoid divorce even harder then he did marriage.

[Guest leebarr]

Matt needs to break Tuon's neck and say she fell off her horse.

[druidravi]

Matt needs to break Tuon's neck and say she fell off her horse.

 

Selucia will break his neck before that . And Tuon is pretty strong herself as  seen from COT .

[CUBAREY]

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Matt needs to break Tuon's neck and say she fell off her horse.

 

But they make such a cute couple! And think of the offspring!

[SwordGuard]

Sorry I think Tuon's a bitch....... ;D And Selucia would probably go out with Mat.....she liked how he pulled those knives out of his sleeves in CoT

[DuDZiK]

Mat has to be my favorite character in Wot. He is just so damn cool!!!!! Now I really don't think that Mat is gonna let himself be tied down with something like marriage. I'm sorry I just don't see it. Mat not carousing in taverns, pinching serving girls, GAMBLING???????It is just to weird I really don't think it's gonna happen.....

 

He'll still go into taverns, and gamble, and look at pretty girls... but obviously going beyond looking is now a no-no. But remember (if you read it) that at the end of Knife of Dreams Mat didn't care too much about that. He is, after all, falling in love with Tuon no matter how he resisted the idea since he heard the prophecy about him marrying the daughter of the nine moons.

[Mat is Better]

Agreed.  Mat is falling in love with Tuon so there's nothing you can do about it.  Anyway, Tuon isn't really that annoying as far as the nobles go, she's one of the more pleasant ones--and she IS quite the noble.

[DemandredFO]

Now all Mat needs to to do is get Tuon to stop believing in those damn omens

[DuDZiK]

I think Mat would rather fight 1000 battles than challenge Tuon on something she believes.  ::)

[PrinceOfRavens]

in a way:P he has already done that eh

[Paviel]

Now all Mat needs to to do is get Tuon to stop believing in those damn omens

 

Any attempt to do so would be kind of rich coming from Mat. I mean, he himself admitted that his marriage had been foretold, and Tuon didn't believe him.

 

So Mat would have to convince Tuon (a) that some omens are actually meaningful and some aren't, and (b) that she has been exposed to way too few of the former and way too many of the latter. Oh, and © that quite a few non-Seanchan prophecies tend to be among the former...

 

It wouldn't be relevant, except that Tuon is convinced that the Dragon Reborn needs to bow to the Crystal Throne, whereas more reliable prophecies mention the Dragon Reborn "binding the nine moons to him" (paraphrased).

 

Of course, the fact that Tuon's entire family has been killed might make her see things a bit differently, but that's still kind of up in the air until she actually gets the news...

[Talyn Al Carn]

I personally think that Mat getting married to Tuon is great!

[Baldar]

No one is quite sure what the Crystal Throne is, it's some type of ter'angreal but other than that it's anyone's guess.

 

Personally, I think Rand will Travel there with Tuon, but somehow he ends up sitting on the throne and something important happens.

[RobertAlexWillis]

The Crystal Throne is a ter'angreal that makes anyone who stands in its presence feel a sense of awe for the person sitting on it.  It probably uses an effect similar to a light form of Compulsion, and I imagine that Rand would be immune to it just by seizing saidin.  It can be defended against, of course, or Semirhage would never have been able to kill Radhanan and her entire household.

 

I sincerely doubt, however, that Rand will ever go to Seanchan again in the course of the main story.

[Kirjava Daemora]

You could argue that in a way, by Mat marrying Tuon, he has bound her to Rand through that. It seems inevitable that Rand and Tuon will meet anyway, but even so, marrying the Dragon Reborn's mate has to count for something, yes?

 

Also, I'm quite glad he married her. If he didn't, then the ter'angreal that told him that he'd marry her would have been wrong, and then what would happen to Rand? He's relying on those answers to win the last battle.

[SwordGuard]

I got a feeling that Tuon and Mat are going to fight agansit one and another soon.

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Mat: You are not my enemy but your Empire is....

Tuon: You are not my enemy either Matrim, but my duty is to the Empire....

This implies that even though Mat is married to the heir of the Seanchan he will continue to try to destroy him. Thats what I call irony since you know Mat one day will sail across the Aryth Ocean..... ;D

[Majsju]

I would not bet on Mat and Tuon fighting "eachother".

Rand seems to be headed to meet Tuon quite early in AMOL, to sort that issue out.

Meanwhile, mat should be headed more or less straight to the Tower of Ghenjei, save Moiraine and put her back on the board. Once that is done, there should not be much fighting with the Seanchan left.

 

And also, I am not convinced mat will ever go to the Seanchan mainland. The empire is destroyed, the land ravaged by civil war. Meanwhile, Tuon has a huge bunch of loyal people in Randland. Taking those troops to tke back the Seanchan continent would mean losing the grip on the establishments in randland, which is quite contrary to Nicolas Foretelling.

So I would not be surprised if she decided to stay and establish a new empire in the south and the east of randland, with the help of Mat who knows the place.

[SwordGuard]

If you really think the thousands of family's who lost loved ones to Seanchan collars are just going to let the Seanchan stay you are gravely mistaken.......I don't think many of the soldiers are going to stay pretty loyal with loved ones in Seandaer either :P :P :-[

[Duneflayer]

the way i see it when Toun finds out that she is now the Empress "May she live forever." ;) and that her mother and family is dead she will want to return to Seanchan but will be unable to as she does not have enough ships as is said in CoT, and even if she did the leader of the Deathwatch Guards (his name escapes me at the moment) would council against it, so Toun will probably try to solidify herself with what she has and then she might be so bold as to try and conquer some more

 

but being married to the enemy general might slow that down

[icspots]

the way i see it when Toun finds out that she is now the Empress "May she live forever." ;) and that her mother and family is dead she will want to return to Seanchan but will be unable to as she does not have enough ships as is said in CoT, and even if she did the leader of the Deathwatch Guards (his name escapes me at the moment) would council against it, so Toun will probably try to solidify herself with what she has and then she might be so bold as to try and conquer some more

 

but being married to the enemy general might slow that down

 

Tuon does know that her whole family is dead.  We see that scene at the end of KoD when she confronts Suroth and she's wearing the mourning garb.

[Great Lord of the Dark]

personally i think tuons sexy so i dont really mind.....i wonder how mat's future will effect tuon. I hope that he restores order back to Seanchan.

[Ciete]

Just cuz Mat's on a diet, dosen't mean he can't look @ the menu right? Bring on the barmaids... ;D