What kind of ending are you expecting?

[Morindin]

With the last book on its way now... with all the theories... speculations... facts... etc...

 

What type of ending would be appropriate?

 

I hope for an ending which will not be expected... an ending which leaves us WOWed and amazed...

 

If the ending has already been guessed by everyone here, I feel the ending will not feel that special...

 

RJ thougth us that prophecies can be interpreted in many ways... I would love it if he has molded our thinking towards a certain direction just to surprise us at the end... which comes back to my unexpected...

[trakand_01]

I've already posted this in the similar thread 'What do YOU want to happen' but seeing as this one is here now too...

 

I want Rand to die. Not because i dislike him, quite the opposite but it is the only way I could happily put the book down and leave it be (until the re-read). If he is alive in ANY way i will be crying out for follow-ups, offshoots and so on.

 

I want to see an ending where Rand dies, and they think all is lost, but we know there are more than one  hero in our story, and something fantastic happens. Something akin to the elves arriving unannounced at Helm's Deep to help in the battle in TTT.

 

Perhaps... Perhaps we think Mat and Perrin are dead, and then Rand falls and we all think 'well, that's it then, isnt it'. they all prepare to be slaughtered until in the distance a horn blows, and slowly over the top of the opposite hill / mountain pours an army, Mat at it's head, Artur Hawkwing, LTT (as himself), Rand, Gaidal Cain, all the other heroes following him.

[Dragon21]

I don't think the the final outcome will be a shock, it will be in the way it's told and how the events leading up to it happen that will have us on the edge of our seats. I am betting we feel sufficiently "wowed" by the ending. We might have a good guess at the outcome, but it's anybody's guess as to how it actually plays out. The ending we expect may come in a way we don't expect. If that makes sense. :)

 

 

 

[Morindin]

I should have been clearer... I did not mean plot wise what you want to see... you are right there have been many posts on that subject...

 

I meant more on the lines of should we be able to deduce it? should it be unexpected? what kind of feelings do you want to feel...

 

Like I said me I would prefer something I will not expect... be surprised...

[elmis]

I hope somebody central dies. Ghoulish I know, but I think that would be cool. Other than that I'm pretty much open for anything.

[Shard]

I don't know if we at this point can be surprised, at least not completly. Obviously the story is going to have to go a certain way and encompass story popints people have been able to deduce.

[Nightstrike]

I don't think the the final outcome will be a shock, it will be in the way it's told and how the events leading up to it happen that will have us on the edge of our seats. I am betting we feel sufficiently "wowed" by the ending. We might have a good guess at the outcome, but it's anybody's guess as to how it actually plays out. The ending we expect may come in a way we don't expect. If that makes sense. :)

 

That's exactly my hope for things to come about too. "To live you must die" implies that Rand could live, but in order to do so he must "die" in some way. I hope Mat finds some cool way to finish the Gholam.

[Luckers]

My thoughts on the way it will play out are fairly well documented here http://forums.dragonmount.com/index.php/topic,20038.0.html

 

But specific to this thread, I would like to have one of the big bad guys survive TG and see the world a few months after through their eyes. And I want to see Nynaeve and what she becomes after Lan's death.

[Majsju]

I'm expecting most of the main things to unfold more or less as I have envisioned them, spiced by a number of events that will make me go "What the...!?"

 

I think I would be very disappointed if every single thing turned out the way I thought they would.

[aevogt]

DUDE, NO WAY!!!

 

I want to shout this at least a dozen times. 

 

Like Tuon is the one who Takes Mat's eye - DUDE, NO WAY!!!

 

Like Lan dies but Nynaeve is preggers with the next King of Malkier - DUDE, NO WAY!!!

 

Like Moraine comes back and then dies very soon after but not before whispering something undisclosed in the ears of either Thom or Rand - DUDE, NO WAY!!!

 

Like Elayne has her babies on the slopes of Shayol Ghul and their blood is what was really required all along. - DUDE, NO WAY!!!

 

Like Perrin has to choose between the wolves and Faile or the world dies - DUDE, NO WAY!!!

 

I want to be astounded, which is kind of funny because I hate surprises.

[Hokuten]

As long as its not body swapping I am ok with that.  That would be the most unoriginal ending to one of the most original epics ever written.

[bjclinton]

....the only downside to these forums has finally been brought to the table  ;)

 

most of us have spent years posting on these forums and have literally disected EVERY.....SINGLE.........ASPECT of this story. We've also scoured every single prophesy and offered our own personal interpretations, theories, and ideas....that being said, i dont think there will be alot of surprises or anything "new"....

 

the end result? i think just about every detail in the end of AMOL can probably be found somewhere in this website, jumbled among the thousands of potential theories on how each lose end can or will be tied up.

 

Now Sanderson needs to put RJ's notes together for us and tell us which of us were right!!!!

 

all that being said, I'm hoping for a perfect 3 way split between these three emotions:

 

1. Excitement- at the epic battles, loose ends being tied up, and the return of Moiraine

 

2. Sadness- at the main characters that are going to have to die

 

3. Hope- however bleak it ends, there will be a feeling that the WoT was saved and whoever is left will have a chance to rebuild and have a fresh start.

[trakand_01]

I think to a certain extent if the ending IS one of the theories discussed, if Graendal did kill Asmo, if Rand does die etc then Iwill feel a little cheated. Not in the way of 'I havent got what i wanted', but in the way of feeling as though i'd read the last page before i started the book. Like I knew that was going to happen and i've just read 50 chapters to confirm it.

 

One thing i really hope doesnt happen is the body swap. I've spent far too long becoming familiar with Rand, his wounds, his abilities etc to have him swap with Moridin. The whole appeal is that he's now the underdog.

 

I want to get towards the end, have certain things happen that i thought would happen, be thinking that 'such and such' is going to happen, only to find we've all been completely wrong. I hope against hope that we've been duped somewhere along the lines and that there's a major revelation in store.

 

That would be my perfect ending. To be completely blown away and have everything i believed about a certain person / event turned upside down at the last minute, to the salvation of the Light.

[bjclinton]

you may still get your wish...ive often wondered about Perrin's viewing in the wolf dream in TDR where he sees who he thinks is Rand, walking in beggars cloths with a cloth wrapped around his eyes.

 

we've yet to actually see this happen and my suspicion is that rand will survive TG, unbeknown to most everyone in the living world, but his body is going to be a battered, ruined shell of the half-crazed man trapped inside inside of it....he'll still be Rand and he'll be at peace, but still a little bit crazy nontheless.

 

*i hope it doesn't happen, but its one possibility*

[Shard]

This is the problem with writing a 12 book series that has spanned over a decade, people are going to figure things out. The text has been anaylsed over and over again and looked at from so many angles that I think it would be impossible NOT to have some of the ending figured out by now. It would be betraying the text and creating a Duex Machina to have some completly unknown thing show up like that.

 

I'm sure there will be some surprises but I think there are a fair amount of theories out there that will end up coming true.

[DemandredFO]

Frankly, I'd rather a long series than a short one.  Don't get me wrong, I love Lord of the Rings but a long series is better.

[BKVMC]

i have hopes for a happy ending but  im bracing for dissapointment :)  Herid fel  stated that  it  might not even be the DR that "fixes" the bore  back to the state it was in  before the  Bore was made.off topic but Rand should ahve wrapped up  Fel in  swaddling and holed him away  that man  would have helped rand  more than any other person  ive seen in the series :).

 

I do not think the DO will break  free, i  think he will be sealed away  again but i wont be  surprised  if it isnt a Pre bore state.

 

I  do think rand will die  in  his own body  but  isnt part of the prophecy  " twice  dawns the day"  sounds like the creator  might have made a loophole )

[trakand_01]

Shuffling along, the pain in his side seared through his thoughts, the old wound had broken open again, he could feel a wetness through his shirt. Rand felt the way with his one good hand, his fingers brushed the doorknob, it turned under his touch. Fumbling his way into the room he siezed Saidin, lit the standlamps around the room.

      "SURPRISE!!!!!!!" As light lit the room he stopped dead; everyone was there, Cyndane, lounging leisurely in Mat's lap, Greandal playing affectionately with Perrin's hair, Dashiva stoking the fireplace for more warmth.

      "What - what's going on?" he said, stunned at the sight before him.

      "Oh come on, farmboy" said Min, a look of amusement on her face. "You didnt honestly think all this was real? Graendal, evil? She's a big old softy!!" As if to make the point, Graendal giggled and hid her face behind her bejewelled hand; "i did enjoy the roleplay though," she said in a very coy voice.

      "You guys....!!" Said rand, taking a glass of mulled wine from Semirhage, who had somehow managed to root out a very fetching frock with small pink flowers embroidered on the bodice.

 

 

 

 

[DemandredFO]

You forgot a few people:lol

 

[eflynn]

Shuffling along, the pain in his side seared through his thoughts, the old wound had broken open again, he could feel a wetness through his shirt. Rand felt the way with his one good hand, his fingers brushed the doorknob, it turned under his touch. Fumbling his way into the room he siezed Saidin, lit the standlamps around the room.

      "SURPRISE!!!!!!!" As light lit the room he stopped dead; everyone was there, Cyndane, lounging leisurely in Mat's lap, Greandal playing affectionately with Perrin's hair, Dashiva stoking the fireplace for more warmth.

      "What - what's going on?" he said, stunned at the sight before him.

      "Oh come on, farmboy" said Min, a look of amusement on her face. "You didnt honestly think all this was real? Graendal, evil? She's a big old softy!!" As if to make the point, Graendal giggled and hid her face behind her bejewelled hand; "i did enjoy the roleplay though," she said in a very coy voice.

      "You guys....!!" Said rand, taking a glass of mulled wine from Semirhage, who had somehow managed to root out a very fetching frock with small pink flowers embroidered on the bodice.

 

That's some funny stuff! Semirhage should apologize to Rand over the whole hand thing though. 

[Jonn]

You know, I'm a sucker for a sad ending with a dash of hope.

 

Like the end of the Ten Commandments. Moses succeeds in freeing his people and saving them from Egypt, but they are afterwards cast out into the wilderness and thrown into chaos, only to receive the laws of stone. The ending of that movie was good. After all of the great wonders, there's a fall and then a long time of reflection. Moses, years later is old and spent leading his people, but we don't see him die, he just wanders off and is never seen in that life again.

 

The book ending of Lord of the Rings was like that, grand and sad, but you throw in the appendices...WOW.

 

I also like it when it feels like there's been a huge change, like we as an audience have been struggling to put it all together so that it fits, and then a shift so dramatic occurs that we find that the whole story shouldn't have made sense until the final scene. A movie like The Fight Club brings that to mind for me. Loved the ending of that. It made no difference that it was basically impossible and shouldn't make sense. I mean come on, how he got rid of Tyler...Yet... When those buildings all went down and the music faded in perfectly, that's a real ending folks. Still, the whole point is that there is a sacrifice involved.

 

Now should Rand die, should he live...should this person die or live...That's important and all, but I really want to be left, not vindicated, but affected. Like I was on a long journey full of sacrifice and pain and exhilaration, excitement and mystery...You know, the whole philosophy of the books is centered on there being no beginnings or endings. I guess I want to feel like I've been somewhere and this is going to keep me going somewhere. Whatever that means.

 

I feel like I can measure how my life has changed over the years because of this series. That's unique. Nearly half of my life is wrapped up in these books.

 

If there's a feeling that should match that, comprise that...give closure to that; that's what I want the ending to be.

[Tyrell]

You know, I'm a sucker for a sad ending with a dash of hope.

 

Like the end of the Ten Commandments. Moses succeeds in freeing his people and saving them from Egypt, but they are afterwards cast out into the wilderness and thrown into chaos, only to receive the laws of stone. The ending of that movie was good. After all of the great wonders, there's a fall and then a long time of reflection. Moses, years later is old and spent leading his people, but we don't see him die, he just wanders off and is never seen in that life again.

 

The book ending of Lord of the Rings was like that, grand and sad, but you throw in the appendices...WOW.

 

I also like it when it feels like there's been a huge change, like we as an audience have been struggling to put it all together so that it fits, and then a shift so dramatic occurs that we find that the whole story shouldn't have made sense until the final scene. A movie like The Fight Club brings that to mind for me. Loved the ending of that. It made no difference that it was basically impossible and shouldn't make sense. I mean come on, how he got rid of Tyler...Yet... When those buildings all went down and the music faded in perfectly, that's a real ending folks. Still, the whole point is that there is a sacrifice involved.

 

Now should Rand die, should he live...should this person die or live...That's important and all, but I really want to be left, not vindicated, but affected. Like I was on a long journey full of sacrifice and pain and exhilaration, excitement and mystery...You know, the whole philosophy of the books is centered on there being no beginnings or endings. I guess I want to feel like I've been somewhere and this is going to keep me going somewhere. Whatever that means.

 

I feel like I can measure how my life has changed over the years because of this series. That's unique. Nearly half of my life is wrapped up in these books.

 

If there's a feeling that should match that, comprise that...give closure to that; that's what I want the ending to be.

 

*points up*

 

What he said.

[stoper]

Disappointing, that kind of ending I'm expecting. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the book will be bad.

I just think that the end will be different from what I'm expecting and what I wish for.

With every book since the fourth/fifth the story disappoint me more and more and I expect that the last one will keep that course.

Although I'll be happy if AMoL prove me wrong.

[CUBAREY]

It's The Wheel of Time, there are no beginnings or endings. AMOL will just be "an" ending, some things will be resolved (the bore has to be resealed or repatched) some characters may die, or seem to die, others will live, but Time, war, the struggle among men and with the DO will continue in some form. The Wheel will turn and a new Age will come, but it will be one that came before and will come again, for that is the Nature of The Wheel of Time.

[paendrag...]

Ok... you ready?

'Perrin saw who he thought was Rand in beggars clothes' and the rest... yes? Anyone else remember the fisher king playing piece from that game I can't quite recall the name of from the age of legends (the one that didn't end up being called stones)?... Also someone saying that the Wolfbrothers are something older than the use of the power itself but come again with the turning of the wheel? There was a time without channelers and with the turning of the wheel...

 

Sorry got a bit lazy there (had a big day at work) couldn't be bothered to go find the name of that game... think it started with ch'... But not too sure. Anyway half my books are out on loan at the minute so can't realy check up at mo.