90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Ithillian Turambar]

22 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

So using all BST times as a basis

 

Turin provides Darth Expo on 22 April 11.23p.

 

Darthe confirms the Expo information on 23 April 2.08am

 

Heavy says the condemner is a night action on 23 April at 9.02pm

 

So while I don't think Heavy is Town, those timestamps and quotes are not showing it.

 

Unless you have one from before Turin's Expo

 

 

You have made a mistake @DPR

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

7 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

False to everything about this post lol.  This did absolutely nothing to clear you from ANYTHING ELSE but that DPR slip accusation and you last outburst.  I still don't think you're Town.  Not does Dices vote IN AND OF ITSELF make him a Wolf just like all DPRs craziness doesn't make you Town and most certainly doesn't clear you lol 

Dude, I know I'm town, though don't I? So it is a big minus for his townie status to me. 

[DPR]

13 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

@DPR

 

How does it feel to be the new Zander?  

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

We’ll see. I’ll accept defeat when we know who’s who at the end.  I did miss Darthe’s “not that it would ever happen post” but I’m not sold on that justifying Heavy’s response. 
 

We’ll have to agree to disagree until we know for certain. 

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Just one more Zander ... just to show that Heavy did get emo before the DPR show.

 

Loses WIM

 

 

More wim is lost

 

 

DPR messes with the time/space continuity

 

 

i have not read DPRs post at this time and call our EMO sad Heavy giving up like he did on Day 1

 

 

Heavy snarks a bit now.

 

 

Heavy goes full Spartacus.

 

 

 

DPR has been going on about this since I joined just about.  All I'm saying is today not game but literally today April 26th for me...that emo shouldn't be sussed as he didn't slip and it was quite obvious once we found someone found Darthes Post...heck in still sussing him for the prior stuff I was but I won't let anyone push for this recent days (literal) outburst or slip because I'd be freaking a million times worse...if I knew it was 100% not true too lol 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Like I said, I don't think Heavy is Town, but I'm not going to go along with false providence till get there.

[Ithillian Turambar]

*to get there

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, DPR said:

We’ll see. I’ll accept defeat when we know who’s who at the end.  I did miss Darthe’s “not that it would ever happen post” but I’m not sold on that justifying Heavy’s response. 
 

We’ll have to agree to disagree until we know for certain. 

 

We do know for certain.  Your whole argument literally hinges on him knowing that BEFORE Darthe posted that which is 1000% not true.... lololololol 

 

All that said....I still don't think he's Town....your mistake doesn't clear him it just looks really bad for you...only thing saving you ATP is you haven't been CC'D mostly lol.  Im just holding everyone responsible for their pushes and reasons and the slip isnt true and I can understand at least his outburst today literally today April 26th. Not the phase.  So those two things aren't acceptable pushes imho.  

 

And again...in likely voting him today lololololol 

 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Just now, DPR said:

We’ll see. I’ll accept defeat when we know who’s who at the end.  I did miss Darthe’s “not that it would ever happen post” but I’m not sold on that justifying Heavy’s response. 
 

We’ll have to agree to disagree until we know for certain. 

But I quoted all this to you. 

 

Or was I in the Rand category of only posting "I hate DPR" so you never read any of my replies? This is thing I don't get, I backed up my response with the quote in the "Stone Cold says so" post that you quoted. How is it possible you missed what was directly quoted to you in response to a question? 

 

UNVOTE 

VOTE DPR

 

Until you can explain back goes the vote again for exactly the same reasons it has been there since D1. 

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Like I said, I don't think Heavy is Town, but I'm not going to go along with false providence till get there.

 

Yes this 100000% 

 

I agree I don't think he's Town either ATP.

 

But the "slip" and today's outburst shouldn't and can't be held against him.

 

Now my brain hurts and I need another coffee and Tylenol FML lololololol 

[dicetosser1]

12 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Ought? 

 

I mean from your eagerness to jump on a townie train even though the reason was demonstrably false. Has to be held against you. 

that’s it? 

 

 

5 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I don't follow? Yes my WiM is broken. I pointed out the Marsh thing and the "I had TMI" repeatedly as being incorrect, and no one cared. Only DPR pushing it made it an issue. 

 

So what am I meant to do? And as I say all my reads are garbage, the game a write-off as long as DPR is unCC'd. What am I meant to fight? The accusations against me are nonsensical but anything I say is "emo". I have no read on whose town or mafia, so I can only be defensive against pushes. 

 

I'm doing my best to contribute but I'm being attacked from all sides and it doesn't feel like any of my counters are getting through, not even when it is "look, this didn't happen" when it didn't.

 

all right you wanna know what to fight? This is gonna be blunt, you probably won’t like it but I think maybe you need to hear it

 

fight the fact that you are not clear in your posts.
Fight the fact that every time you go emo on us, especially after getting a bit clearer as you did a little while ago, you lose any traction you gained by being clear.

 

then fight for your reads in a way people can understand and follow and that doesn’t just make them throw their hands in the air and give up.

 

and don’t YOU throw your hands up in the air and give up. If you give up why should we be bothered with you?

 

and here’s a hint.  There are people who will policy lynch you as soon as you self vote. People who think it’s against the spirit of the game.

 

right now my vote stays because I have no reason NOT to vote you due to the stuff I’ve mentioned here.

 

 

[Zander?]

9 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Dude, I know I'm town, though don't I? So it is a big minus for his townie status to me. 

 

I'm not disputing YOUR READ on him really tho but since noones CC'D him he may just be Town who got time mixed up or something I dunno...but till.someone else CC's him or flips actual Hider he's not getting lunched.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

1 minute ago, dicetosser1 said:

that’s it? 

 

 

 

all right you wanna know what to fight? This is gonna be blunt, you probably won’t like it but I think maybe you need to hear it

 

fight the fact that you are not clear in your posts.
Fight the fact that every time you go emo on us, especially after getting a bit clearer as you did a little while ago, you lose any traction you gained by being clear.

 

then fight for your reads in a way people can understand and follow and that doesn’t just make them throw their hands in the air and give up.

 

and don’t YOU throw your hands up in the air and give up. If you give up why should we be bothered with you?

 

and here’s a hint.  There are people who will policy lynch you as soon as you self vote. People who think it’s against the spirit of the game.

 

right now my vote stays because I have no reason NOT to vote you due to the stuff I’ve mentioned here.

 

 

My point was, that if people aren't even going to listen to me about factual matters, what is the point? I was making clear that I was 100% behind what I was arguing. Self voting is explicitly allowed in this game. It is not like I was committing suicide instead of eliminating a wolf. 

 

If I say "the sky is blue" and everyone disagrees, how do I fight that? Best I can do in that situation is take one for the team and prove the sky is blue, but I'd rather people would just look up themselves. 

[Zander?]

5 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

that’s it? 

 

 

 

all right you wanna know what to fight? This is gonna be blunt, you probably won’t like it but I think maybe you need to hear it

 

fight the fact that you are not clear in your posts.
Fight the fact that every time you go emo on us, especially after getting a bit clearer as you did a little while ago, you lose any traction you gained by being clear.

 

then fight for your reads in a way people can understand and follow and that doesn’t just make them throw their hands in the air and give up.

 

and don’t YOU throw your hands up in the air and give up. If you give up why should we be bothered with you?

 

and here’s a hint.  There are people who will policy lynch you as soon as you self vote. People who think it’s against the spirit of the game.

 

right now my vote stays because I have no reason NOT to vote you due to the stuff I’ve mentioned here.

 

 

 

See I can't fault Dices reasoning here because it's not the slip and the outburst is only referenced as a small part of the BIGGER picture of multiple instances of it.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Un Official Vote Count

 

HEAVY - 1/6 (Dice)

DPR. - 1/6 (Heavy)

Not Voting
Ithi, Marsh2, Nyn, DPR, Verb, Zander, Key, Tig

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Countodwn to EOD

[Zander?]

Anyways I need to out for awhile my brain hurts....lol

[Zander?]

Deadline isn't today it's tomorrow right?

[Ithillian Turambar]

21 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

NO

 

DARTHE CLARIFIED FULL DAY BRFORE HEAVY MADE POST I LITERALLY PROVED IT...stop immediately or even the fake you haven't been CC'D isn't gonna stop me from lunching you lol

 

@DPR

That I in your post better stand for Ithi or 

 

 

[dicetosser1]

Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

My point was, that if people aren't even going to listen to me about factual matters, what is the point? I was making clear that I was 100% behind what I was arguing. Self voting is explicitly allowed in this game. It is not like I was committing suicide instead of eliminating a wolf. 

 

If I say "the sky is blue" and everyone disagrees, how do I fight that? Best I can do in that situation is take one for the team and prove the sky is blue, but I'd rather people would just look up themselves. 

NO!! The best you can do is not take one for the team but stay alive and help the team find the baddies!  Or if your scum stay alive and help beat town!

 

you DONT just give up! What you need to learn is

 

dont take it personally

 

how to make your thought known clearly

 

how to NOT give up

 

want an example of not giving up?  I’m well and truly sick of not being believed in this game.  I’ve seriously had it. But I keep grinding my teeth and fighting because town needs me. My role is completely useless and for some reason this game no one wants to believe the cop claim even tho it’s unccd.

 

want an example of giving up and why it’s bad? You SAW me do it. The only differences between that game and this? I didn’t have a role that was needed and I actually thought lento was town and ina stronger position then me so I”took one for the team”. And what happened? I was wrong, Len was scum and we LOST.  And it’s partially on me. Because I gave in.

 

so get your ass in here and fight clearly, thoughtfully.  There’s no guarantee you don’t get lynched anyway but at least your fighting for it.

 

 

[dicetosser1]

8 minutes ago, Zander? said:

Deadline isn't today it's tomorrow right?got a bit over 34 hours Z

[dicetosser1]

Wow I mangled that lol

 

got a bit over 34 hrs @Zander?

[Ithillian Turambar]

34 hours and 33 minutes till end of Day 3

[DPR]

20 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

But I quoted all this to you. 

 

Or was I in the Rand category of only posting "I hate DPR" so you never read any of my replies? This is thing I don't get, I backed up my response with the quote in the "Stone Cold says so" post that you quoted. How is it possible you missed what was directly quoted to you in response to a question? 

 

UNVOTE 

VOTE DPR

 

Until you can explain back goes the vote again for exactly the same reasons it has been there since D1. 

We’ll see when we see. I didn’t take Darthe’s quote that way, hence my question in the first place. 
 

I think I see something. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m right. That’s how it goes. 
 

I’m fine with the core’s response - core is usually right. But something about it pings me, so…

I’m adding Ithi to my core today - she’s definitely putting in the effort and good with teh accuracy. 

 

Nyn/Verb/Zander/Ithi

 

[Darthe]

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

It does say random now.  @Darthedid you change the wording to random after you made the clarification about the role ITT?

I clarified this and the amended nature of the role a couple of days ago irl I think

[DPR]

47 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

You have made a mistake @DPR

There’s a very extremely unlikely remote chance, but it does happen every once in a while lol 

[Nynaeve]

13 hours ago, DPR said:

As is which player in our game - not a bio on Brendan Frasier. Thx

 

 

I wouldn't mind it...