90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Darthe]

9 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

This is not my game @Darthe I'm supposed to be able to just play lol

 

Don't blame me if the vote counts are all wrong.

Pshh you are doing great, ty for it.  
 

ima just copy yours and go from there so if it is wrong folks have 7 hours to correct.

[Verbal32]

25 minutes ago, DPR said:

lolme for using very common mafia slang  and you agreed with most of the points I made in that post. 
 

This entire argument is nonsense and you nitpicking it while we have an entire game to solve is bad, bad look. 

 

I'm pointing out that you're trying to coordinate events here.  The post I quoted where I mentioned you setting the table is literally exhibit A on that.

 

You're not gonna try OMGUS with me, are you?  Oh noes, Verbal pointed out stuff I don't like, let's just say he's silly and looks bad now!

 

lol nope

[Verbal32]

27 minutes ago, DPR said:

lolme for using very common mafia slang  and you agreed with most of the points I made in that post. 
 

This entire argument is nonsense and you nitpicking it while we have an entire game to solve is bad, bad look. 

 

And on that topic, solving you goes a LONG way to doing exactly what you're saying in the bold.  I want to solve others, too (i.e. Ithi and Dice and maybe Turin), but my primary focus today is you.

 

And that doesn't mean you need to be lynched (although it's probably going to happen).  If you are somehow town, I want to know so we can start working together and not slapfight anymore.

[Verbal32]

Vote: Zander

 

 

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don't you dare tell me that's not the towniest thing done in this game so far!

 

[Verbal32]

heh

 

 

Unvote

[Ithillian Turambar]

Lol so glad this isn't my game cos I'd have started to update the VC

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Hi, I'm Verbal and I'm not on your list.  

 

No no you're not.

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Yeah, no way I manage to catch up.

 

Weren't you retired? 

 

Yes but Lenlo had RL issues and Darthe needed someone so being The Most Villagery Villager to Ever Village I figured I'd come help Town....I'm not spamming really trying to make most posts game related or answering stuff.

[RandA lThor]

15 hours ago, Tigraine said:

I've literally never seen anyone say something D1 that 100% confirmed they were scum (even jesters have trouble getting themselves lynched D1 on purpose and they act as scummy as they come)...so i would err on the side of caution.

And I did err on the side of caution when he hard claimed. But if we err on the side of caution on soft claims that are near impossible to disprove, then scum can always soft claim if they're about to be voted out D1, and it's impossible to get scum on D1.

 

15 hours ago, Tigraine said:

This would make more sense if all of your posts were pertinent to the issue at hand...they were not.

 

Is this referring to talking about my data/internet issues? I would say that is INCREDIBLY important to my availability to change votes during a 2 minute rush. Or are you talking about me trying to get Dice to commit to a claim so he couldn't skate by on something vague?

 

15 hours ago, Tigraine said:

This is absurdly out of context and not worthy of a response 🙄

Please explain the context then, it blows my mind that people are viewing my activity at the EOD1 as scummy, it could not be more the opposite. And I can definitely understand people thinking that I acted "like town" to go deep undercover or something, but acting like those actions are scum indicative is ridiculous.

 

[Tigraine]

1 hour ago, Nynaeve said:

 

I'm not adverse to voting DPR, frankly. But I saw no reason to rush through the day, plus I thought it would be good to have a competing train. Seeing as tigs hasn't been proactive or active... plus DPR poked her drive by post  early on and then kinda forgot about her... I thought she was a good pick.

 

I've been here, having discussions with multiple people, DPR included.  There are far more inactive people but you do you, boo

 

41 minutes ago, DPR said:

So the Tig bombshell was just another fly-by? 
 

I’ll be called a hypocrite for this, but there needs to be a lot more activity in this thread. A LOT more. 

 

I actually responded right after you said you were leaving... I volunteered to do quote by quote but a few seem to whine about that. Then I gave a run down of reasons.   Convenient that you nor Nyn are seeing that and completely acting like I haven't spoken since voting you. 

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, Nynaeve said:

@Zander?

 

I haven't caught up yet but can you explain why you have tigs as town? I apologize beforehand if you already explained somewhere... but would appreciate you bumping it if you did.

Don't have a lot of time....

 

Town lean that's important distinction and also as Ive stated I've not read pretty much all of day 1 like 10-20 posts.  Just started fresh where I jumped in and looked at the wagons.  Tig feels like trying and thoughts don't feel manufactured and doesn't hurt seeing some of the same stuff I am so I'm ok town leaving ATP.  And just from Wagons and what I've read noone could convince me Tig is the Wolfiest player in the game atp.

[RandA lThor]

15 hours ago, Tigraine said:

Yes, and scum read people who think he's acted scummy 

This is hilarious out of context when 

* I was the first one to put Dice in a group of 3 people I thought there were scum in, and after that Dice started coming onto me as scummy

* I started to go after DPR first, and only after that he started saying I was super scummy

 

Absolutely insane attempt to twist things around, either ignorant of the proper timeline, or scum trying to twist something around.

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, Turin Turambar said:

The hider can not be targeted by a kill unless it is first RB'd. Even by the Strongman.  It is in the rules/setup of the OP.

 

I thought I saw the hider somehow could effect or be effected by who they hide behind so I'm still kinda confused by it.

[Turin Turambar]

Okay,ive only got a.little tome so this is gonna a be quick with bad spelling. I went to look at EOD to check timestamp info as it is accurate  now. I found Dice's first hint was at Dl-55 minutes. Second at DL-16. Then a bunch with between 11 and 5 minutes to DL. I think Rand had plenty of time to decipher what Dice was doing. He seemed to be egging him on to claim. 

The other perhaps more interesting things to me were that Lenlo posted at DL-1hr 13min. Many thoughts  then dips,without mentioning  DL.

Ed posts at same time. UNVOTES Tigraine.  Says hes gonna catch up, doesn't come back before DL.

Key posts several times with last one being DL-37. It may be she only had snippets while doing other stuff but it seems weird.

Earlier I said that with trains running on townies,  the mafia might be content to just let it flow, as long as it didn't come back to them. These people were in thread at least partially with in 99 miof DL but were not actively involved in EoD1.  A bit weird to me.

Got to go

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, Turin Turambar said:

Lol, Zander couldn't put me in his list if it meant listing me as town.

Oh wait, he's Zanlo now. Wait a minute, Lenlo left me off his list earlier. That slot has it out for me.

 

This children is what framing is in Mafia and also feels like you're deflecting if you ask me.....you the 3rd party homie?  I left multiple people off the list as well sooooooooo.

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, DPR said:

Darthe said he’s using mafiascum roles and in their description Hider doesn’t protect, it just hides and is immune to nk’s. Statistically, I’d say there’s a good chance that mafia shot at the Hider last night and missed. 
 

There’s also a chance they shot the Condemner who was protected by a vest. 
 

As far as a Doc protect goes, I have to think that if mafia is gonna shoot the Cop, they’re gonna use the Strongman shot to make sure they kill him. 
 

 

Man only Sith speak in absolutes.  You've played enough games to know there's multiple reasons they don't there.  Again maybe Dice is a Wolf.  But he's self resolving a d you also KNOW this.

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, Nynaeve said:

 

This is gonna be bad, isn't it?

 

I dunno is it?!??!!!?

[Zander?]

53 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

So you'll effortlessly generate 54 pages with your own babble for all of us to suffer through but you won't read ours?

 

Yes?

[Tigraine]

2 minutes ago, RandA lThor said:

And I did err on the side of caution when he hard claimed. But if we err on the side of caution on soft claims that are near impossible to disprove, then scum can always soft claim if they're about to be voted out D1, and it's impossible to get scum on D1.

 

Again, it's a risk either way.  But D1 is probably about the best time to have it happen if it is going to.  There isn't a whole lot of information and in a game with a mafia RB, a soft claim is probably the best way to go.  You disagree, I see this and understand this.  But it's one of those "agree to disagree" things.  Your style is different from mine and mine from Zander and Zander's from Heavy's. 

 

2 minutes ago, RandA lThor said:

Is this referring to talking about my data/internet issues? I would say that is INCREDIBLY important to my availability to change votes during a 2 minute rush. Or are you talking about me trying to get Dice to commit to a claim so he couldn't skate by on something vague?

 

Yes it is.  I understand you felt the need to tell that you were on the train then off the train then going to ride a scooter to no I'm just going to wait....but again, every single 1 of those was in a different post.  Since you had previously had trouble with getting others responses to come through when you were posting, it just still seems odd that you'd choose to do it that way instead of "I'm heading home, have service for such and such time" then "I'll hang around until after EoD." I found it strange that you chose to break it up.  Even if I've changed my perspective to that's just your game play, it still seems off.  I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you absolutely refuse to admit that it's possible anyone could've found that scummy even though I'm not the only one to eye you sideways about it.

2 minutes ago, RandA lThor said:

Please explain the context then, it blows my mind that people are viewing my activity at the EOD1 as scummy, it could not be more the opposite. And I can definitely understand people thinking that I acted "like town" to go deep undercover or something, but acting like those actions are scum indicative is ridiculous.

 

Straight up don't remember the quote this was In response to.  Just remembered I was supposed to find something for @Zander? to.  Sorry, I forgot.  Let me read the new replies and I'll try to find them for you both quickly

[Zander?]

26 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

Vote: Zander

 

 

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don't you dare tell me that's not the towniest thing done in this game so far!

 

 

27 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

heh

 

 

Unvote

 

 

Damnit my OMGUS VOTE was incoming lololololol

[Tigraine]

14 minutes ago, RandA lThor said:

This is hilarious out of context when 

* I was the first one to put Dice in a group of 3 people I thought there were scum in, and after that Dice started coming onto me as scummy

* I started to go after DPR first, and only after that he started saying I was super scummy

 

Absolutely insane attempt to twist things around, either ignorant of the proper timeline, or scum trying to twist something around.

 

Umm, I was referring to you thinking me thinking you scummy was scummy but by all means, keep going.  It's adorable 

[Nynaeve]

1 hour ago, DPR said:

I don’t have time to look back - does anyone know the time DL is supposed to be? 

 If it's the same time as eod 1, it should be in less than 8 hours

[Nynaeve]

57 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Un Official Vote Count by Ithi

 

DPR (4/7): Rand, Ed, Heavy, Tig

RAND: (1/7): Turin

TIG: (2/7): Nyn, Ithi

 

 

Not Voting: Dice, DPR, Verb, ZanderLen, Key

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Countdown to EOD

 

Apparently not. A little under 6 hours.

 

At like 3-4 am for me.

[RandA lThor]

11 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

17 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

the problem with me fake claiming is it doesnt actually buy me much. Maybe a day? It’s a death ticket. 

This worries me. This seems like a huge misrep, but if it is why has no one else commented? Yes, from a Dice life expectancy pov, it is delaying the inevitable, but from a mafia team pov, it keeps a PR on the game for potentially at least two nights. It fishes for the cop - take for instance if I was the cop experiencing my first ever false claim with two minutes to make a decision, or indeed a whole day with no one to talk to about it? It kills a townie, it invalidates any town peeks the real cop gets so long as the GF is out there... It doesn't buy me much seems like such an understatement, not even counting all this WIFOM. 

 

It worries me as I'm getting town vibes off Dice, which in itself is slightly worrying as town Dice underpressure is not this polite in my experience. 

 

Hate it. I feel Dice is town, but I don't think he is acting it. FML. 

Idk how I missed this, but fully agreed. "Only buy me a day, maybe more" in itself is an obvious reason to do something with no downsides seeing as you're about to die. Not to mention it's not the only pro, fishing for the cop, using a potential night ability one more time, sowing confusion and dissent.

 

11 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

 

If only Rand didn't give such a bad vibe off with his obsession with Dice. . 

My obsession with Dice can be read better as complete disbelief that people have such limited views of the possibilities of what's happening, which I think you agree with. My vote is on DPR, and I would definitely say I am more obsessed with voting him out. At this point, I feel more confident on him than Dice, it's not just that I want to avoid voting out the un-cced cop.

 

11 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

im actively trying NOT to make this dice scrum worse. I have been enough of a distraction if you look at all the time wasted talking about me.

 

if I’m scum I’m a dead man soon enough cause there’ll be a cc coming and, reading this room, they want to test it by lynching me.

 

thing is I AM the cop and yet if someone does cc me?  I’m his lot will probably still want to test it by lynching me first despite the fact that if they cc when they flip scum the scum team will most likely use that strong arm immediately to take me out.

I understand you're defending yourself, but I also want to see more from you scumhunting or doing town helping analysis. I'm the poster child of discussing you, but I've also been discussing my huge scum read on DPR, trying to coordinate an earlier decision making process so we don't panic and make bad decisions by EOD, working with Ithi to figure out percentage chances of what happened at night, etc.

 

7 hours ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Also, if he was actually Mafia, why would he bother with the whole No Result thing? Wouldn't he have also pretended to get a Mafia read on someone to stir up even more muddles?

I was literally hoping he would make a claim at seeing something, because if mafia didn't strongarm him, they 1000% role blocked him (or he's mafia), and I would've insta-voted. I think Dice, if mafia, knew that too. And if cop, it makes sense he was RBed.

[Nynaeve]

27 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

 

I've been here, having discussions with multiple people, DPR included.  There are far more inactive people but you do you, boo

 

Cool, glad you aporoce