GOD COMPLEX Game Over

[dicetosser1]

simple numbers.

im taking ajs post as him and iron scum.  theres only two scum left.  that leaves u town.

 

 

and what i meant about not considering iron is that line very definetively rules out iron TODAY.  "get a red flip on hallia clear nyn THEN condemn marsh"   does that sound like ajs considering him today to you clov?

[Clovdyx]

Do I think it's likely he votes Iron today?  No.  

Do I think it's impossible?  No.

 

But again... I'm not going to lynch somebody I think is likely teamed with my unflipped scumread when my unflipped scumread is viable.  That just seems like common sense to me.

[Andrej]

I get the angle you’re working and I respect that. I would likely be using the same narrative in your shoes.

 

The issue is that my interactions and consideration of Marsh are a lot more thorough and deeper than Hallia even attempted to. They basically gave each other mutual TRs D1 and that was about it until Marsh had to vote to save her D2

[Andrej]

Plus generally Hallia just has a lot of scum equity for how she handled the wagons on D1

 

and lynching her resolves two slots for me. So while I get you’re going to fight that my POV is perfectly consistent

[Clovdyx]

12 hours ago, Andrej said:

 

Thats my thought. Refer to Iron’s “this May be the clue we need!” post.

 

Shoot a weird target, hope the confusion sinks in and people turn on one another.

 

I raise the same question again. Who benefits from that the most? Like even if it was Clov and me, why not just kill Kat and then continue smashing our way to victory vs a heavily implicated Dice/Marsh combo

 

I had Wifi essentially in lockstep with me at the end of yesterday so if I’m scum I would *want* her here now

 

Everything AJ has done since BFG flipping is pretty much spot on how he ought to be scumhunting based on how well he knows about her, and he had really no reason to follow me yesterday when Hallia was already in the lead.  Does it really matter one way or another which one flips if they're both town?  And I've re-read the past few pages like three or four times, and this just seems really damn honest to me.  

 

Forget who had the most to gain from her dying.  I'm not sure mafia!AJ didn't have the most to lose.  

 

## Vote Dice

[Clovdyx]

I swear, I used to be good at this game.  

 

Can we go back to like three years ago when I didn't have to make hard choices?  I liked that a lot better.

[Ironeyes]

Ok now I'm convinced HalliaDice is scum trying to convince everyone I'm his partner. The last three posts he made were all about how I'm scum with AJ, but then he votes AJ instead of trying to get people to switch to me. He knows he's going down, and needs to protect his teammate by ensuring that I follow quickly thereafter. That lets his hidden partner shoot two town in the intervening night phases to win the game. 

3 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

#bertstare

anyone else wanna argue with me about my wifi read?

 

 

 

the advantage   for me   is i got to find out that i was wrong and that hallia was town.

 

the disadvantage is that people have their blinkers on and are laser focused on hallia because of stuff i cant change.

 

 

 

if i was scum i WOULD shoot one of them   probably clov   cause im the most likely lynch so i may as well get some pre-revenge

 

 

right so i was thinking clov aj marsh.

this post has taken clov out.

AJ was all over marsh at eod about that link with hallia but wont go there first?? isnt even considering voting marsh first?

 

##vote AJ

 

1 hour ago, dicetosser1 said:

he was linking iron with "ifs"at EOD IF hallia is scum etc   but those last two lines of his post  particularly the last  go from if to certainty type words.

 

i think wifi may have been killed cause shes a loose cannon. cant predict her.  last thing you want when u need one mislynch and im practically all set up.

 

59 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

simple numbers.

im taking ajs post as him and iron scum.  theres only two scum left.  that leaves u town.

 

 

and what i meant about not considering iron is that line very definetively rules out iron TODAY.  "get a red flip on hallia clear nyn THEN condemn marsh"   does that sound like ajs considering him today to you clov?

 

[Katiora]

43 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

Ok now I'm convinced HalliaDice is scum trying to convince everyone I'm his partner. The last three posts he made were all about how I'm scum with AJ, but then he votes AJ instead of trying to get people to switch to me. He knows he's going down, and needs to protect his teammate by ensuring that I follow quickly thereafter. That lets his hidden partner shoot two town in the intervening night phases to win the game. 

 

 

 

Huh?? 

[Ironeyes]

2 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Huh?? 

We're 4-2 right now.

Dice gets lynched, we go to 4-1. 

Town gets night killed, 3-1. 

I get lynched due to association with Dice, we go to 2-1. 

The final scum kills town at night, going to parity at 1-1 and they win. 

 

Scum only need one mislynch to win, and it doesn't have to be today. All he has to do is make sure I'm inextricably tied to him and they can't lose. 

[Andrej]

Who is the partner then?

[Nynaeve]

3 hours ago, Andrej said:

Who is the partner then?

 

His vote is kinda self explanatory lol

 

I'm cool with a Hallia lynch. I havent voted yet cause I wanted everyone to be able to give their two cents and not rush to a lynch. But I'll cast my vote later today when I can catch up fully.

[Ironeyes]

3 hours ago, Andrej said:

Who is the partner then?

It's irrelevant. It could be literally any player left besides me and this strategy works. 

[dicetosser1]

7 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

I swear, I used to be good at this game.  

 

Can we go back to like three years ago when I didn't have to make hard choices?  I liked that a lot better.

 

well ure wrong here

[Clovdyx]

3 hours ago, Ironeyes said:

It's irrelevant. It could be literally any player left besides me and this strategy works. 

 

It's ~irrelevant in the sense you dont need to know the partner for your theory to be correct.  It's not irrelevant in the sense you know whether you're town, and if you are, you're pretty much always dying after Dice... so it might be something you want to figure out.

 

From your POV, there can only be three options.  That's including the idea that AJ/Dice (hallia) were teamed, AJ did everything to (correctly) set her up as bfg's teammate, still voted Dice to save her... only to lynch her the next day.

[Clovdyx]

I don't know any way to take iron's post as a hail Mary attempt to make himself look better after dice flips.

[Nynaeve]

44 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

I don't know any way to take iron's post as a hail Mary attempt to make himself look better after dice flips.

 

He does seem to be talking as if he knows he's going to flip scum

[Nynaeve]

3 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

well ure wrong here

 

Then who's scum?

[Clovdyx]

32 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Then who's scum?

 

Pretty sure he already said he thinks its AJ/Iron, since AJ "knows" it's him/Iron and won't touch Iron.

[Andrej]

5 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

His vote is kinda self explanatory lol

 

I'm cool with a Hallia lynch. I havent voted yet cause I wanted everyone to be able to give their two cents and not rush to a lynch. But I'll cast my vote later today when I can catch up fully.

 

He didn’t vote (if we’re both talking about Marsh) and really I just want to see him work his puzzle out for himself.

 

It can’t be me unless he thinks Dice and I are bussing each other in MYLO. It shouldn’t be you for reasons I’ve given. He doesn’t want to seem to go there with Clov and Kat is IC.

 

so who is Dice’s secret partner?

 

 

 

[Clovdyx]

Though in hindsight maybe you were just making a point.

 

Sorry.

 

[Ironeyes]

1 hour ago, Andrej said:

 

He didn’t vote (if we’re both talking about Marsh) and really I just want to see him work his puzzle out for himself.

 

It can’t be me unless he thinks Dice and I are bussing each other in MYLO. It shouldn’t be you for reasons I’ve given. He doesn’t want to seem to go there with Clov and Kat is IC.

 

so who is Dice’s secret partner?

 

 

 

That's why this is bothering me so much. I thought I had this game figured out last phase and it blew up in my face 

[Andrej]

Hazard a guess? HalDice is getting lynched today and if that’s not game over then you’re pretty much always next.

[Ironeyes]

49 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Hazard a guess? HalDice is getting lynched today and if that’s not game over then you’re pretty much always next.

Yeah. I guess your switch to voting Hallia after the deadline could have been a calculated misdirection but that's up against solid town play all game. Meanwhile Nyn hasn't voted like a mafia but hasn't played like town. I'd go with her in a pinch 

[Clovdyx]

9 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

Yeah. I guess your switch to voting Hallia after the deadline could have been a calculated misdirection but that's up against solid town play all game. Meanwhile Nyn hasn't voted like a mafia but hasn't played like town. I'd go with her in a pinch 

 

I would call MYLO with a mostly inactive IC and both of your scum reads awol a pinch.

[Nynaeve]

20 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

Yeah. I guess your switch to voting Hallia after the deadline could have been a calculated misdirection but that's up against solid town play all game. Meanwhile Nyn hasn't voted like a mafia but hasn't played like town. I'd go with her in a pinch 

 

 Lol