[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

Oh ye of little faith. Hally responded poorly, it's a valid point atm even if the most recent example was superfluous.

[dicetosser1]

Darthe can i get reads/impressions of you?  

[Darthe]

I did reads recently yo

[dicetosser1]

any idea how far back? or gimme a quick synopsis? i offer choccy.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

So I didn't have access to a computer today and I'm too drunk to figure this f out right now kol

[WolfbrotherKronos]

Could vote Hallia for lack of posting content though.

[Hallia]

I do need to reign it in and focus, I had three forum posts, a quiz, and an essay for Govt. to turn in - I've been here off and on but not in the capacity that I want.  

 

Dice I liked your response to me, not voting there at present.

[dicetosser1]

i dont even remember what response you mean halli lol  too long ago

[dicetosser1]

[dicetosser1]

cmon u lot get in here and start posting.

[DPR]

dice, you gonna doing anything besides spam or do we need to go ahead and run you up?

[seph]

dice, you gonna doing anything besides spam or do we need to go ahead and run you up?

this is a bad post lol. Its obvious he has a view on someone and he wants to see people thoughts.

why not make a reads list for us?

 

Your posts last phase towards kronos when he got a red view and your thoughts on it in generally seemed to be more scum aligned. Like how when kronos got a red and you somehow tried to tie the two together, all in all leaving your vote on kizzyclov who you have literally focused 90% of the game. besides you side comments to eldrick, which you never really followed up with a vote besides the first 10 pages if i remember correctly.

 

What bothers me is even if you are not going to get the lynch you want, as town you should still help solve the game. you however have been just trying to throw everything at kizzyclov who appeared the most scummy the earliest and has, or who you though was a easy lynch. 

 

Another though that bugged me is when the town lynched eldrick you tried your hardest to make it seem like you deserved town cred that day. tbh I think you are one of the remaining wolves. You try to use your loudness to get your way, over facts and logic. 

I know i did this as well day 2 and It royally f'ed me, but there just is something off about all of your play in general.

[v] dpr[/v]

 

I have a reads list I am working on before i started typing this, and I sadly am not sure how much i will be around with my laptop dying on me >< yay for electronics. but after my readslist ill be out for awhile

[seph]

ebwodp. I mean trying kronos to eldrick. It seemed more sus to me once eldrick actually flipped red.

[seph]

Sorry I have been afk most of the night/day I really intended to come in hot but I haven't been able to do anything with the thread. I got to page 25-30ish before I had to stop, and I haven't had a chance to re look at half the things i wanted ><

This is where I was before I saw dice post

Town- I don't think I have any trouble trusting this group right now.
Kronos McLintock (WolfbrotherKronos)
Darthe Wade (Darthe)
Wildfire Sedai
The Crusher
Dice- I actually had dice a little lower from my re read of him, but given the current situation has pretty much erased any doubt. (if whats going on is what i assume)


Cuth- cuth is slightly below the above because his involvement after notbob seemed to taper off some, and I have not got a chance to reread him. He is still a person im am fairly confident with.
Miss Kizzy Clov- there game has improved since d1 and I still feel very stongly that they are town. if dpr does turn out to be town I would look closer at this spot.

I feel like the ramaining mafia have a very good chance to be in this remaining group.
Cass- up to page 30 or so in my reread i kept going back and fourth but overall Cass never looked bad. she is here because she is one of my lower town reads tbh, and I felt like she tappered off.
BFG- I liked her origional thoughts and posts but I don't think I have ever seen her scum game tbh. She is here for her thoughts upon entering the thread and with the recent posts from dice I just don't feel comfortable trusting her 100% she is a lower town read and here through poe.

I feel pretty good of the last scum being down here
Hallia- she is someone I dont remember much of, and a non memorable hallia is usually a scum hallia.
The amazing Tiink (Tiinker)

DPR

I am not sure who i would lynch first between tink and hallia. I have like some of tinks last posts, and being on eld before the view is a +
 

[DPR]

 

dice, you gonna doing anything besides spam or do we need to go ahead and run you up?

this is a bad post lol. Its obvious he has a view on someone and he wants to see people thoughts.

why not make a reads list for us?

 

Your posts last phase towards kronos when he got a red view and your thoughts on it in generally seemed to be more scum aligned. Like how when kronos got a red and you somehow tried to tie the two together, all in all leaving your vote on kizzyclov who you have literally focused 90% of the game. besides you side comments to eldrick, which you never really followed up with a vote besides the first 10 pages if i remember correctly.

 

What bothers me is even if you are not going to get the lynch you want, as town you should still help solve the game. you however have been just trying to throw everything at kizzyclov who appeared the most scummy the earliest and has, or who you though was a easy lynch. 

 

Another though that bugged me is when the town lynched eldrick you tried your hardest to make it seem like you deserved town cred that day. tbh I think you are one of the remaining wolves. You try to use your loudness to get your way, over facts and logic. 

I know i did this as well day 2 and It royally f'ed me, but there just is something off about all of your play in general.

[v] dpr[/v]

 

I have a reads list I am working on before i started typing this, and I sadly am not sure how much i will be around with my laptop dying on me >< yay for electronics. but after my readslist ill be out for awhile

 

 

 

You think it's obvious dice has a view? Wouldn't it be more effective for him to just say "I have a view?" - nobody is going to vote him after that.

 

Hinting at a pr after you've been caught up in a potential lie is not exactly convincing, especially when you want to buy time in a game filled with inactive players.

 

He also has the time zone advantage for waiting, which in this case works to his advantage if he wants to ride out the clock.

 

For my money, anyone taking any time away form the thread with distractions is looking bad.

 

As for your vote on me, you've been doing that all game. 

 

Of course I'm suspicious of a last minute role reveal that, for the second day in a row, pulled the heat off the liz/clov train. But, I put no focus on Kronos - he's either who he says he is or he's not. It's easy to prove and will shake itself out in favor of the town no matter what, so no danger there.

 

If you've been paying attention, I haven't said anything about liz/clov today. Wifi made a good observation on dice and I've been following up with that.

 

I called Eldrick dirty on D1 and never changed that stance. I just thought, and still do, that liz/clov is dirtier. I was clear before the D2 lynch that I didn't have time to process the reveal so i left my vote where it was.

 

Look, you're all jacked up with your reads and trying to throw my words about facts and evidence back at me is just a knee-jerk response to you feeling bad that you defended Eldrick the way you did. Sit back, relax and let some other people (like Wifi has) make some observations and scum hunt. Otherwise, you just sound like a broken record and become a distraction to the rest o nth game.

[The Crusher]

Sorry for not being around yesterday. Sundays are tough for me. Got a few pages to catch up on.

[Cass]

I'm here re-reading for the next ~hour and then I'm off to bed.

 

Just ISO'd Hallia, not sure I wanna lynch there today.

 

High level of fluff:content is nagl but she has a good point about pushing Eldrick early - she focuses more on him than anyone else in her content and tone-wise her progression on him reads legit.

[seph]

I'll trust dice, if he is lying he is easily outed and scum lose another 1.

 

I don't think your reads have progressed since d1

You pretty much have kept them the same.

 

Mind giving a reads list and who you want to lynch?

[Cass]

Sorry I have been afk most of the night/day I really intended to come in hot but I haven't been able to do anything with the thread. I got to page 25-30ish before I had to stop, and I haven't had a chance to re look at half the things i wanted ><

 

This is where I was before I saw dice post

 

Town- I don't think I have any trouble trusting this group right now.

Kronos McLintock (WolfbrotherKronos)

Darthe Wade (Darthe)

Wildfire Sedai

The Crusher

Dice- I actually had dice a little lower from my re read of him, but given the current situation has pretty much erased any doubt. (if whats going on is what i assume)

 

 

Cuth- cuth is slightly below the above because his involvement after notbob seemed to taper off some, and I have not got a chance to reread him. He is still a person im am fairly confident with.

Miss Kizzy Clov- there game has improved since d1 and I still feel very stongly that they are town. if dpr does turn out to be town I would look closer at this spot.

 

I feel like the ramaining mafia have a very good chance to be in this remaining group.

Cass- up to page 30 or so in my reread i kept going back and fourth but overall Cass never looked bad. she is here because she is one of my lower town reads tbh, and I felt like she tappered off.

BFG- I liked her origional thoughts and posts but I don't think I have ever seen her scum game tbh. She is here for her thoughts upon entering the thread and with the recent posts from dice I just don't feel comfortable trusting her 100% she is a lower town read and here through poe.

 

I feel pretty good of the last scum being down here

Hallia- she is someone I dont remember much of, and a non memorable hallia is usually a scum hallia.

The amazing Tiink (Tiinker)

 

DPR

 

I am not sure who i would lynch first between tink and hallia. I have like some of tinks last posts, and being on eld before the view is a +

 

 

- Can you elaborate on the bold wrt Halleh? Have you ISO'd her or is this just on thread re-read? 

 

- What are your reasons for Tiink?

[seph]

I have not had a chance to iso her and everything is mainly from memory.

Tinker look good on day 3 but I don't think I can move him above the others.

I have to go now though, I'll try and check in close to dl.

[DPR]

I'll trust dice, if he is lying he is easily outed and scum lose another 1.

 

I don't think your reads have progressed since d1

You pretty much have kept them the same.

 

Mind giving a reads list and who you want to lynch?

 

 

You're trusting dice based on something you are imagining - not something he has claimed. There's a lot of room for error there.

 

My scum reads are exactly where they were because the facts that I formed the reads on didn't change or get erased. They can be explained by the person I have the read on, but that hasn't happened yet.

 

I'll work one up, but it ain't gonna look like yours.

[BFG]

Lol Darthe <3

[BFG]

Only have 5 minutes, but I'll have a decent amount of time tonight (finally)

 

Dice, what's your read on Hallia/Cass?

 

Cass can you share/point me at your current reads? Same for Hallia?

[BFG]

 

 

I had liked dice's posts wrt liz/mc but  he also posted this: "meh thats fairly typical notbob really" and hindsight is 20/20.  I know I shouldn't dis him for 1 post but isn't that what we were doing to liz/mc??  and sometimes it's only one little post that does it.

 

 

 I still have dice as slightly scummy.  I think he may be 3p

 

 

SO, these were my two thoughts on dice, in order.  mainly over his notbob post because I think he said he is a very good notbob reader. iirc.  I forgot that I changed my mind about him to make him 3p.  cause I kind of think that the set up could be 11/4/1 I thought it 12/4 but re analyzing.   I just don't remember who I had the other mafia as...oh yeah liz/mc but I am giving them some room for now....but still watching

 

 

nope i said the exact opposite.

 

 

That's why I said "I think" and "iirc"  I do apologize....I think I have to do my reads over....at least middle ones down....maybe some top ones as well......  

 

Actually mostly null on the recent Dice argument

 

It started based on WiFi saying Dice said he was a good NB reader and then getting the NB read wrong, but I don't think Dice ever said he was a good NB reader? I'll be able to check later. So it then comes down to whether or not Dice deliberately lies in a game he knows has fact checkers in, or whether it was a mistake, the latter of which is NAI

[DPR]

I don't do "town reads". Again, it's a liars game. There are people that make sense and they arouse the least suspicion. There are people that don't make sense but come across as emotional or rattled and they choke the game with distractions. Then there are people working an agenda to win - these are who I look for:

 

 

 

liz/clov - This slot has made (and I've commented) too many anti-town plays for me to think they are anything but scum. 

 

Seph - Fits into my rattled and distracting category. Could easily be downgraded to scum. Tries to use my logic against me - no bueno.

 

Cuth - I don't trust (never have) the "clever and playful" style that never coughs up the goods. His adamant labeling and defense of Eldrick as town looks bad.

 

Darthe - Always a distraction. Always with the mysterious comments. Distraction. 

 

 

Lurkers that could easily be scum:

 

Hally - No real contribution to the game. 

 

dice - about to be sorted

 

Tink - Sorta playing by asking questions, but that could easily be scum trying to look innocent.

 

Cass - Pops in with occasional insight. Never around to talk about it. No memorable contribution. No bueno.

 

 

Active and building profiles that are hard to backtrack from later in the game:

 

Kronos - Claimed pr. That can't be undone, so he's sorted.

 

Wifi - Using the time she has to actually play. Looks good. I'll LOL if she's a Godfather of Cult Leader.

 

BFG - Didn't like the giggly reunion distraction when she took over for Spoof. Tries too hard to pretend she's lost but catching up - doesn't match people's opinion of her. Hasn't thrown down a scum read yet. No bueno.

 

Crusher - Looks good. Making reads, taking stances and keeping focussed on common sense. 

 

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In my notes I have a weird link between liz/clov, Hally and Cuth as they all made posts about "iron-deficiency". Could be nothing.

 

Darthe's vote on dice was awfully fast and then he Darthe's around, followed by calling Hally out for saying she could vote there. Nothing here actually helps the town.