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Darthe maintains AJ is scum until after he starts a push on Pral and salami questions him. Darthe doesn't change his tune when Mish or NotBob are putting pressure on AJ. There are a lot of posts in here including Darthe saying time and again AJ is scum, Mish and NotBob's votes for AJ, Pral's case and then a few posts after. 

 

 

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After seeing the most recent push on Pral, I really think AJ would be a more interesting lynch. 

 

unvote, vote AJ

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  On 10/14/2013 at 5:48 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 5:29 PM, csarmi said:

unvot vote NotBob

 

Consolidation. I'll set an alarm for 6 hours from now to move my votes if needed. If I got this right, we have 8.5h till deadline.

 

What are your current reads? Not Bob has now 6 votes on him, while Pral has 4. You could have evened the trains out a bit more but instead you added another vote on Not Bob. AJ has already said that he is only voting for Not Bob for consolidation purposes, and RTE is voting him because he wants him to post more which he already did. And to top it off Krak has placed an useless vote on AJ after misinterpreting one of his posts. This whole situation feels iffy.

 

I prefer NotBob to Pral. Krak should be lynched (at least he started playing, but that stab+disappear don't sit well with me), but I can't see 10 votes accumulating on him before the deadline.

 

Wary of RTE (mostly when he pointed out Moon's playing scummy all the time and such posts (speaks for others) , Tress (seems to be fence sitting in most of her posts), Dap (he is being weird).

 

I'm reading Yates, Leelou, Pral and Mish townish. Cloud/Darthe are just being themselves.

 

NotBob just reads as a usual NotBob to me, with actually more gameplay material added than his usual D1. Could go either way, I suppose.

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  On 10/14/2013 at 6:01 PM, csarmi said:

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 5:48 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 5:29 PM, csarmi said:

unvot vote NotBob

 

Consolidation. I'll set an alarm for 6 hours from now to move my votes if needed. If I got this right, we have 8.5h till deadline.

 

What are your current reads? Not Bob has now 6 votes on him, while Pral has 4. You could have evened the trains out a bit more but instead you added another vote on Not Bob. AJ has already said that he is only voting for Not Bob for consolidation purposes, and RTE is voting him because he wants him to post more which he already did. And to top it off Krak has placed an useless vote on AJ after misinterpreting one of his posts. This whole situation feels iffy.

 

I prefer NotBob to Pral. Krak should be lynched (at least he started playing, but that stab+disappear don't sit well with me), but I can't see 10 votes accumulating on him before the deadline.

 

Wary of RTE (mostly when he pointed out Moon's playing scummy all the time and such posts (speaks for others) , Tress (seems to be fence sitting in most of her posts), Dap (he is being weird).

 

I'm reading Yates, Leelou, Pral and Mish townish. Cloud/Darthe are just being themselves.

 

NotBob just reads as a usual NotBob to me, with actually more gameplay material added than his usual D1. Could go either way, I suppose.

 

 

...and yet your vote remains parked.

 

Eventually players need to vote scum.  Some do it early some do it later.  I chose to do it early.

 

Unvote, Vote AJ

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  On 10/14/2013 at 6:00 PM, Darthe said:

That's pretty good Leelou.  

 

Personally, I am thinking a Pral/Mish team looks plausible.  

 

Mish is town.

 

 

Leelou, I don't see how all those posts you just quoted support your scum read on AJ. You only mentioned that you found him pushing for Pral's lynch bad, and that AJ's lynch would be interesting.

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  On 10/14/2013 at 4:42 PM, Krakalakachkn said:

 

  On 10/13/2013 at 1:43 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 10/13/2013 at 1:08 AM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 10/12/2013 at 5:40 PM, Andrej said:

unvote

 

vote NotBob

 

Let's lynch this dude and see his flip.

 

Why aren't you willing to move to Pral if you believe his case on you to be so bad? I would think that you would go for someone that you have a better scum read on?

 

  On 10/12/2013 at 11:24 PM, Andrej said:

Why lurk? Make yourself a part of the game. If you're Town, then show it.

 

Personally I'd say kill the lurkers, but I know the stigma around here for that sort of business.

 

Dude, lurkers don't have to be scum. I hope some players will step up their game and be more active, but calling them scum makes you more difficult to read this game if that makes sense to you.

 

 

My vote was on Pral. I unvoted and move it to NotBob because there doesn't seem to be any traction gaining on Pral. Like I said, with NotBob's play (which always seems scummy) I'd rather lynch him and remove any doubt. Plus it would give us a train to analyze. The way he plays gives the mafia an easy person to park their vote on given that he flips Town. So I want to find out.

 

So you're saying that you know he'll flip town?  Sweet, thanks for that freebie.

 

 

Lol nice attempt at misrepresenting. I'm clearly saying that IF he flips town then he would've been an easy target for the mafia to vote for. Hence the talk about train analysis.

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 5:54 PM, Leelou said:

 

After seeing the most recent push on Pral, I really think AJ would be a more interesting lynch. 

 

unvote, vote AJ

 

 

What makes my lynch interesting?

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  On 10/14/2013 at 4:28 PM, Ishmael Forsaken said:

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 5:06 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 10/13/2013 at 8:08 PM, Ishmael Forsaken said:

Consolidating doesn't really require 20 posts to do.

 

Get your post count up to 20 and then we'll talk big guy :wink:

Amass my win percentage, then try again. :wink:

 

 

Boom.

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Vote Count:

 

Not Bob (6) – RTE, Aemon, Hallia, AJ, Tress, Salami

Pral (4) – Darthe, Cloud, Mish, Ishy

Andrej (4) – Pral, Krak, Leelou, Not Bob

Cloud (2) – Dap, Kat

Lenlo (1) – Yates

Hallia (1) – Lenlo

 

 

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch

Deadline – Monday 8PM MST/ 11PM EST (I think I'm GMT -8 for you Europeans) That's just over 8 hours, folks. 

 

Not voting – Verb

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Anyone else get the impression that it seems like Andrej is playing with an Ace in his pocket?

 

Seems pretty confident despite being one of the opposing trains while Pral is in hiding.

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I can't people all those who decided to jump over on the AJ train... You had one big train, one semi-big train, and one non-existant. Krak, big FoS for being the first on that. Small chance of a complete lynch now. And FoS on Csarmi for his jumping on the NotBob train at the tming he did.

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  On 10/13/2013 at 8:05 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 10/13/2013 at 7:24 PM, Pralaya said:

 

Me and NotBob. Other than one generic post talking about players, all your posts today and yesterday have just been focused just on the two.

 

 

I'd describe that as trying to consolidate rather than tunneling.

 

 

Oh really? Notwithstanding the fact that you are speaking on behalf of him, did you even try to see what happened?

 

When Andrej first voted NotBob it was not for consolidation. It was for "competing train time"

At that point, NotBob had ....you guessed it.... 0 votes. Andrej just sheeped Aemon's FoS to create a train

 

  On 10/10/2013 at 4:54 AM, Andrej said:

Sounds like it's competing train time.

 

vote NotBob

 

 

 

Of course, after that he voted me and then randomly voted him back on the pretext that he is consolidating

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  On 10/14/2013 at 5:48 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 5:29 PM, csarmi said:

 

 

unvot vote NotBob

Consolidation. I'll set an alarm for 6 hours from now to move my votes if needed. If I got this right, we have 8.5h till deadline.

 

 

What are your current reads? Not Bob has now 6 votes on him, while Pral has 4. You could have evened the trains out a bit more but instead you added another vote on Not Bob. AJ has already said that he is only voting for Not Bob for consolidation purposes, and RTE is voting him because he wants him to post more which he already did. And to top it off Krak has placed an useless vote on AJ after misinterpreting one of his posts. This whole situation feels iffy.

 

 

That is a very good point

This is why competing trains are so fun

 

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 6:28 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 4:42 PM, Krakalakachkn said:

 

 

 

  On 10/13/2013 at 1:43 AM, Andrej said:

 

 

 

  On 10/13/2013 at 1:08 AM, _CLOUD said:

 

 

 

  On 10/12/2013 at 5:40 PM, Andrej said:

 

unvote

 

vote NotBob

 

Let's lynch this dude and see his flip.

 

 

Why aren't you willing to move to Pral if you believe his case on you to be so bad? I would think that you would go for someone that you have a better scum read on?

 

  On 10/12/2013 at 11:24 PM, Andrej said:

Why lurk? Make yourself a part of the game. If you're Town, then show it.

 

Personally I'd say kill the lurkers, but I know the stigma around here for that sort of business.

 

 

Dude, lurkers don't have to be scum. I hope some players will step up their game and be more active, but calling them scum makes you more difficult to read this game if that makes sense to you.

 

My vote was on Pral. I unvoted and move it to NotBob because there doesn't seem to be any traction gaining on Pral. Like I said, with NotBob's play (which always seems scummy) I'd rather lynch him and remove any doubt. Plus it would give us a train to analyze. The way he plays gives the mafia an easy person to park their vote on given that he flips Town. So I want to find out.

 

So you're saying that you know he'll flip town?  Sweet, thanks for that freebie.

 

Lol nice attempt at misrepresenting. I'm clearly saying that IF he flips town then he would've been an easy target for the mafia to vote for. Hence the talk about train analysis.

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 5:54 PM, Leelou said:

After seeing the most recent push on Pral, I really think AJ would be a more interesting lynch. 

 

 

unvote, vote AJ

 

 

What makes my lynch interesting?

I can't see the If you are talking about AJ

Care to point it out?

 

unvote

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  On 10/14/2013 at 7:09 PM, Misheru Sedai said:

I can't people all those who decided to jump over on the AJ train... You had one big train, one semi-big train, and one non-existant. Krak, big FoS for being the first on that. Small chance of a complete lynch now. And FoS on Csarmi for his jumping on the NotBob train at the tming he did.

 

And, this one is funny.

 

When you posted the following

 

 

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the vote count was 

 

 

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That's right. I had the "most votes" which was just 1 vote more than AJ. So, you had a big train and a bunch of smaller trains and you jumped on one of the smaller one and you are now FoSing others for doing the same?

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  On 10/14/2013 at 8:33 PM, dapianoplay3r said:

There were a lot more hours left on the clock at that point Pral ...

 

Mish's vote was just 2 hours before Krak's vote and 3 hours before Csarmi's vote. In the scheme of things, that isn't a lot more hours.

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  On 10/14/2013 at 7:09 PM, Misheru Sedai said:

I can't people all those who decided to jump over on the AJ train... You had one big train, one semi-big train, and one non-existant. Krak, big FoS for being the first on that. Small chance of a complete lynch now. And FoS on Csarmi for his jumping on the NotBob train at the tming he did.

 

Really? I mean AJ and Pral are now tied and NotBob is still up there. I can go back to consolidate if I need to, but right now I'm thinking AJ will be a more informative lynch. Especially with your reaction. 

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Pral had 2 votes, AJ only one. With the amount of hours left, and the amount of people that had checked in lately, I chose the player that would require one less vote to get a full lynch on. I really don't want to lynch NotBob because of what I explained before; I think he's town. Krak's vote made the trains even more uneven and unlikely to get a lynch secured. As we can now see.

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  On 10/14/2013 at 8:57 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 10/14/2013 at 7:09 PM, Misheru Sedai said:

I can't people all those who decided to jump over on the AJ train... You had one big train, one semi-big train, and one non-existant. Krak, big FoS for being the first on that. Small chance of a complete lynch now. And FoS on Csarmi for his jumping on the NotBob train at the tming he did.

 

Really? I mean AJ and Pral are now tied and NotBob is still up there. I can go back to consolidate if I need to, but right now I'm thinking AJ will be a more informative lynch. Especially with your reaction. 

 

 

So your only reason for voting AJ is him pushing against Pral, and that he will be an interesting aka more informative lynch? In your case you copy pasted a bunch of quotes but never even explained what you find scummy about AJ, and why you think that Pral is town. You only showed the inconsistency about Darthe thinking AJ is town, while telling everyone that he is mafia at the start of the game which he had already admitted before your post.

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Vote Count:

 

Not Bob (6) – RTE, Aemon, Hallia, AJ, Tress, Salami

Pral (4) – Darthe, Cloud, Mish, Ishy

Andrej (4) – Pral, Krak, Leelou, Not Bob

Cloud (1) – Kat

Lenlo (1) – Yates

Hallia (1) – Lenlo

 

 

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch

Deadline – Monday 8PM MST/ 11PM EST (I think I'm GMT -8 for you Europeans)

 

Not voting – Verb, Dap

 

 

 

Just over 5 hours to go!

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I'm not defending him; I haven't said a word to that sort, thank you very much. I've said that I found either of them a good lynch, but I'm questioning the timing of votes. Why now, so very close to deadline, start a third train? We have random lynch in the game rules.

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Unvote, Vote NotBob

 

I doubt that either Pral or AJ are going to get lynched right now because they have both been tunneling on each other and the opinions are split when it comes down to them. I think everyone should just move to NotBob right now to avoid a random, he also doesn't appear to have any PR.

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