Welcome to Dragonmount, guloo. I hope you enjoy your time here.

Loot goblin sounds so common. I prefer to think of myself as a loot troglodyte.

Nappies

Disrobing

I'd say maybe take the opportunity to make a few more spells when we can as we can only do it once per period. And then crack on.

Maybe we should review whereabouts we are in this grand quest.

I have no idea. I'll add my vote to 4. Cause gems have to be good, no?

Fireworks

Yeah maybe best not upsetting it, all things considered. It really is amazing how it can do this.

I'm having a bit of a break at the moment.

If only there were an auto-loot addon.

Yeah I dunno lol. First option please, cos like it was first and stuff.

Lol I can remember when me and my friends would avoid nightclubs as that was where all the twenty-somethings went, those dinosaurs with one foot in the grave and terrible taste in music. The phrase hits home differently these days somehow. Cannot out my finger on what has changed...

I think you have established that you hate the show, and you want to argue that your opinion is objectively true. You haven't shown any inclination to discuss the books at all, which is strange if you loved them so much. When did you read tEotW for the first time? What did you already know about the books? It is not obviously about the Dragon. The prologue establishes that this is about an epic story of good and evil, of tragedy and redemption, and not about a sheepherder. But it is breadcrumbing, it is not meant to explain anything, it is deliberately vague with enough info for it to make sense when you have more information. I love how Jordan teaches the reader about the lore, about the One Power with Egwene, False Dragons from tales of Logain, the history since the Breaking through Manetheren, etc etc. At no point did it sit down and say this is all about the Dragon. It isn't clear how mythological the Dragon is, whether he will be reborn or when, if he would be the antagonist... the Prophecies are deliberately vague and ominous, and we don't know how they are going to apply to the story. The book weaves a rich tapestry of background info that, to me, really seemed alive. So when we found the Horn of Valere, I was shocked. [An aside, I was disappointed that Farstrider was made into plot, having a world so detailed that we knew popular songs and everyone's favourite book, imho, was better than forcing Jain into the actual narrative, but that might just be me]. It was nothing like the standard trope in fantasy of the heroes needing a magical sword to save the world but all they have is the rusty sword they found in their father's attic. Wait, you don't mean that actually is the legendary sword of unlikely coincidences! OMG, lets save the world. If you read these forums you will find a lot of people that found the first books so slow because they already knew it was all about the Dragon, had probably heard a bit about the books, maybe read a few of the blurbs of later books. All in my humble opinion, but the early books were always going to have to be treated with great care because a simple 1:1 adaptation even if possible was going to be problematic.

I still wish you all the best but I forgot to mention how completely nuts you must be to be this for *checks notes* fun. I think for me anything less than the lives of my kids would probably insufficient motivation to even try. Still your insanity is incredibly impressive, lol. Look forward to hearing how you get on at your warm up 🙂

My closest friend that loves fantasy got to around book 7 and gave up. Many of the fans on the boards here really didn't like the first 3 books. This hasn't got anything to do with "modern" audiences or target audiences. This has to do with the books were always an acquired taste. My love of them doesn't change that. It certainly doesn't change the rather slavish aping of LOTR. It doesn't change that the original readers of tEotW didn't know the book was about the Dragon Reborn, and that affects the pacing a lot for later readers. It doesn't change that the tone is quite different to the rest of the books. None of this says that any decision of the adaptation was the right one, but it does make a nonsense of the argument was all they had to do was be closer to the books. That simply isn't true. Which isn't to say that an adaption closer to the books narrative could not be done successfully, but it presents its own challenges, and is not the solution to all problems. And of course @WoTwasThat, you can use the forums as you please (within the rules you have agreed to follow, obviously). However, your use isn't consistent with a fan of the books, nor does your claim that people just need to dust off the books ring particularly true to someone that actually is familiar with the source material. Most of us don't need to dust off the books to recall their content. The fact remains that opinions on the adaptation remain subjective - there is no right or wrong way to feel about it.

It's also not a coincidence that the books are famous for being slow, boring and meandering with fans of fantasy fiction in general. I love the books but you seem to be grinding out a rather odd narrative rather facing the facts. And if you are so interested in the books why are you not discussing them on these boards rather than only the show?

It is nice to hear others ideas on characters as I find Faile completely contrary. She has positive points definitely, but I also cannot help hold it against her that she is so deeply involved in the "we love nobles really" personality change of the whole Two Rivers. I've no idea why Jordan made them all so eager to throw away their proud independence.

OK I'll change to a bit of meditation, that rarely seems to be a bad idea.

Read

Though I am sure Nyra was, er, germinated ready, maybe we should ask, with a shared long look for the camera before the action scene.

Pineapple

Welcome to Dragonmount, Bodewhin, hope you have a great time here. Looking forward to discussing the books with you and hearing your thoughts 🙂

Monopoly

I'll sign up for the DT and serve as a replacement if needed.