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Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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Oh god is this another AIDS "only wolves like winning and anyone who looks like they're trying to figure out people's alignments must be scum or a huge loser" game?

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David Hermes Proficient

David Hermes

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  On 1/5/2017 at 8:23 PM, Shad_ said:

Oh god is this another AIDS "only wolves like winning and anyone who looks like they're trying to figure out people's alignments must be scum or a huge loser" game?

yep basically

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 8:23 PM, Shad_ said:

Oh god is this another AIDS "only wolves like winning and anyone who looks like they're trying to figure out people's alignments must be scum or a huge loser" game?

 

AIDS!!!!!!

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 8:48 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 10:41 AM, Leelou said:

Why is this 20 something pages already?

because we kept the spam to a minimum last night

 

:ph34r:

 

 

Obv you spammers need to smarten the F up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 1/5/2017 at 8:50 PM, Zander said:

Shad what do you think of the lack of AJ ITT??!!?!?!

 

If someone points out to me that the deadline is in 5 minutes I'll yolo vote there.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 1/5/2017 at 8:53 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 8:50 PM, Zander said:

Shad what do you think of the lack of AJ ITT??!!?!?!

 

If someone points out to me that the deadline is in 5 minutes I'll yolo vote there.

 

 

....its 5 mins to dl?!?!!?!?!?!

dicetosser1 Spam Master

dicetosser1

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  On 1/5/2017 at 2:59 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:40 AM, Songstress said:
 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 4:42 AM, dicetosser1 said:

thats my town  tress i believe.

 

.....?????.......?????

 

 

there a problem?

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 3:10 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 10:41 AM, Leelou said:

Why is this 20 something pages already? 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 10:47 AM, dicetosser1 said:

its all zanders fault leelou. You should lynch him nods

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 10:54 AM, Leelou said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 10:47 AM, dicetosser1 said:

its all zanders fault leelou. You should lynch him nods

 

K

 

vote Zander

 

 

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 10:59 AM, dicetosser1 said:

lol. where were you earlier when i was trying to get him lynched while he was asleep??  :D:D:D

 

wtf is this Aids?!!?!?!?

 

Well Dice....Im awake now....are you....?!?!!?!?!?!

 

 

yep im awake. lets go

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 3:18 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:24 PM, BooBoo said:

10 pages in and I have some observations:

 

- you weirdo's talk in a different language and it's hard to follow

 

- I get really excited when Nyn, Leelou and Kaylee post - HOT HOT HOT!!!!!

 

- I get really creeped out when David posts and he seemed to start taking things super serious when it seemed like everyone else was playing patty cakes.

 

- I can already tell none of you are on my level and I'm not sure what to make of it yet. 

 

JIF <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

 

BooBoo is Jif? plz confirm

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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I mean I'm not going to hold him to some gold medal thread leading standard just because I think he'd be more stoked to finally be a villager again, but the 'gonna keep a low profile' gig falls in line with being boned by rngesus for a year straight. 

 

He doesn't need to be in my top village pile to be a villager but if he's a null read for me come EoD something is wrong.

Nynaeve Spam Master

Nynaeve

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  On 1/5/2017 at 8:22 PM, David Hermes said:

Assblasted hahahahaha good word

 

I don't remember you but you're wearing a sig I made so.... hey >.>

dicetosser1 Spam Master

dicetosser1

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:24 PM, BooBoo said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:51 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:42 PM, BooBoo said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:38 PM, Tiinker said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

Mafia is the name, meta is the game. Some people like to determine who's in their town crew from D1 based on meta and this lets them get a better idea of who's scum in later days. Not my way necessarily but it's worked for them. There have been games where a wrong D1 read screws them later in the game. Or mafia get snuffed pretty quick.

 

 

Meh, meta is weak sauce.  And I dont know anyone's meta, so it's completely useless from me.  And using meta doesnt mean you have to declare people town, in fact, it would be more useful to do the opposite. Declaring people town is stupid and provides cover.  It's a terrible way of scum hunting because it isnt scum hunting.

 

 

Explain the bold.

 

It's not like declaring someone town makes it a consensus. I think facilizing it to just "meta" wasn't really fair on my part. They play with each other so much that they know how the other person thinks and can judge how he or she would respond in certain situations. I think it's fair enough if you genuinely think you know someone well enough that you can anticipate certain types of responses basically before they've been made. 

 

 

Sure - first and foremost, when you start to declare people as town, it allows them to manipulate that particular player and or it can provide cover for a player who maybe isnt town.  It also, in many cases, can influence the decision making of players who may arent super convicted or on the fence.  I'm a good example of that.  I dont know anyone meta to confirm or deny others thoughts.  So I could easily just sheep others thoughts. Luckily for all you, I dont play way.  Scum or Wolf can play into someone reading your town when you're not.  In general, dismissing someone as town with little to no information based on nothing other than meta, does nothing to actually provoke any type thought that will advance the game.  In fact, it does the complete opposite.  It makes people lazy.  It makes the game lazy.  You can keep that thought to yourself and it's more effective while you hunt for scum.  

 

And if you're entire point is about anticipation of what someone would say, then this must be the easiest place to play as scum or wolf in the history of mafia.

 

All that said, you can find scum or a wolf based off their meta being different occasionally but I'm going to venture to say it doesnt happen often.  The thing is, in that scenario, you're using meta to call them scum, not town.  So again, its counterproductive to just go around calling people town all game long. 

 

 

all right i am working on the basis that this is jif

 

first off giving a town read shouldnt stop reevaluation unless its a very strong one for reasons. eg i have a habit of calling Zander town early and once i do i dont shift. Its totally meta but guess what? ive never been wrong. So this game im thinking tress is town. Doesnt mean my mind cant change, just what my thinking is now.

 

Calling someone town or scum also helps other players. It makes me accountable for what i said and they know where my thinking is. That way if i act contrary to that they can spot it and jump at me. If i now do a reads list and put tress at the bottom watch people excplode on me cause they have evidence that im contradicting myself.

 

It can open you to manipulation and i have cost us games cough frozen cough when ive got paranoid on someone but again those meta reads help me to have a chance to spot if im getting manipulated.

 

LMAO and if you hate meta ure gonna HATE my gut reads. Also if this IS Jif then really all you JN guys DO is use meta. You just use it at such a high level you cant even see what it is your basing things on.

 

And you have meta on people  you know verb leelou crusher and NB well  youve played a couple with me, know zander a bit and at least one with shad.

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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  On 1/5/2017 at 5:40 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

Current Vote Count:

 

Hermes (3) - dice, John Snow, honeyBooBoo

Darthe (2) - NotBob, Nolder

dice (1) - Hermes

John Snow (1) - AJ

NotBob (1) - Darthe

Zander (1) - Leelou

AJ (1) - Zander

 

 

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Last VC there's no deadline set.

dicetosser1 Spam Master

dicetosser1

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  On 1/5/2017 at 9:00 PM, Shad_ said:

@Dice BooBoo is JiF.

 

thanks

 

and i dont think we are lynching AJ today. AJ is not a viable d1 lynch imo especially when he TOLD you he was going to slank a bit

dicetosser1 Spam Master

dicetosser1

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  On 1/5/2017 at 3:30 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

LDO= Like D'uh Obviously

 

GOAT- Greatest of All Time

 

imo- In my Opinion

 

 

People try to use #SOULREADS like they know whats what.....but seriously its easy for Scum to hide behind tho admittedly with how much some of us play together Meta will lead people to make these early substantiated reads as Town as well.

 

 

lol at zander talking like hes not the biggest meta user in the game

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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  On 1/5/2017 at 9:10 PM, dicetosser1 said:

*snipped*

 

all right i am working on the basis that this is jif

 

first off giving a town read shouldnt stop reevaluation unless its a very strong one for reasons. eg i have a habit of calling Zander town early and once i do i dont shift. Its totally meta but guess what? ive never been wrong. So this game im thinking tress is town. Doesnt mean my mind cant change, just what my thinking is now.

 

Calling someone town or scum also helps other players. It makes me accountable for what i said and they know where my thinking is. That way if i act contrary to that they can spot it and jump at me. If i now do a reads list and put tress at the bottom watch people excplode on me cause they have evidence that im contradicting myself.

 

It can open you to manipulation and i have cost us games cough frozen cough when ive got paranoid on someone but again those meta reads help me to have a chance to spot if im getting manipulated.

 

LMAO and if you hate meta ure gonna HATE my gut reads. Also if this IS Jif then really all you JN guys DO is use meta. You just use it at such a high level you cant even see what it is your basing things on.

 

And you have meta on people you know verb leelou crusher and NB well youve played a couple with me, know zander a bit and at least one with shad.

Posts like this makes me feel good about Dice.

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 1/5/2017 at 2:33 PM, BooBoo said:

Can someone give me a break down on all the acronyms you guys use?  ldo?  and others.  So confused.

 

And why the propensity to claim people are town so soon in the game with no info? 

 

ldo = like duh obvious = me being intentionally obnoxious or snarky ldo

 

@ early reads, I got into this in my last two games and it's a distinct playstyle difference between here and JN.  Some of it's meta (Zander's a villager because I've played with him like 30 times and can read him correctly with >>> rand success rate off of next to nothing), some of it is non-player specific pattern recognition that proves reasonably accurate when you've been treating D1 as the most important phase of the game for as long as you've been playing Mafia, a lot of it is to deny wolves the opportunity to lay low, and some of it is just taking a shot in the dark with an attentiveness to how the player you're calling town or scum will react. 

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 1/5/2017 at 9:12 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 1/5/2017 at 9:00 PM, Shad_ said:

@Dice BooBoo is JiF.

 

thanks

 

and i dont think we are lynching AJ today. AJ is not a viable d1 lynch imo especially when he TOLD you he was going to slank a bit

 

 

was that in sign-up thread?

 

if so then fair

 

If it was post-rand then bleh

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