Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

Dice seems very light hearted so far this game.

 

 

Dice seems very light hearted so far this game.

I agree. Liking the feel of everyone so far, but then again it is really early.

 

 

Crap, that's right, have to account for Dice being a hydra with Nyn...

 

<--- is sufficiently intimidated

 

So Dice, unlike last game, are you mafia this time?

Saving this for later.

 

In case it's trying to dissolve the fact he already knows they're a hydra cuz they're both on his team.

 

 

Early brownie points for being the first people to get into the game, tempered with I don't understand Eldrick at all

Makes two of us (the not understanding Eldrick part)

100% certain this number is higher then 2

 

lolololololol

I'm included on that list sometimes too.

 

I get "wth was I thinking" moments :P

 

lol <3

[Cass]

Nearly 4am so gonna head to bed. 

 

I like that Sooh's doing ISOs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Atm I'm at Cass and Darthe/Pral with a sidenote of Dice, because he can't get over that I'm not townreading him (when do I ever?).

 

 

It seems to me that you saying im nudging people but you dont think Im Scummy for it?!?!

 

Or am I missing something?

 

Correct. I think you're town, but I didn't approve of your method of nudging (or scum hunting).

 

 

ty

 

 the nudging comment as possible 

 

 

 

 

 

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Atm I'm at Cass and Darthe/Pral with a sidenote of Dice, because he can't get over that I'm not townreading him (when do I ever?).

 

 

It seems to me that you saying im nudging people but you dont think Im Scummy for it?!?!

 

Or am I missing something?

 

Correct. I think you're town, but I didn't approve of your method of nudging (or scum hunting).

 

 

pocketattemptdenied.gif?!??!!?

 

 

GM eveyone

Just wanted to inform you guys this is my anniversary weekend so me and Mrs. AJ will be doing a bunch of stuff and I won't be around as often to be current and post VCs and such. I would still like to have a Sunday night DL but I know that is somewhat unrealistic for a lot of us so I could push it to Monday morning/early afternoon.

 

Congrats!

 

Its important to me Cass because if looks like you came in picked an easy target who wasnt around to defend themselves and made a weak Meta case on her to validate keeping your vote there which looks like busy work to look busy.

 

This is not how Id expect Town!Cass to react and jump in with imo.

 

Sure, if it happened like that, but it didn't - vote was removed. If you can't take my explanation and the posts in sequence as Towny me by this point I'm probably going to put it down as a you problem.

 

Next topic!

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

 

I've been thinking about this. The lack of specific action bothers me because I've seen Darthe attempt to directly rally in previous games so I know he has the capacity. Imo it surfaces when he's having fun/enjoying himself.

 

He specifically stated earlier he's been chill and happy, focused on the peek going right N1, so you'd think he'd be motivated to pump everyone forward as Town, but the 'rally' attempts feel indirect.

 

TLDR the amount of effort he puts in isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's harder to work out his actual alignment when he's not giving his all. 

 

@Darthe

 

I don't wanna debate about whether or not your rallying was Towny.

 

 

@Zander - where are you at on Darthe?

 

@Darthe - where are you at on Z?

 

 

How do you explain the fact you haven't wanted to kill each other (from the things I've seen) ?

 

Has this happened before?

 

 

If Im wrong on you or Pral its Darthe imo but I feel hes been pretty much his normal Town!Darthe self thus far.

 

Again tho Im not the best Darthe reader

 

 

What's Scum!Darthe for you?

 

Cory described it as if he acting like a psychiatrist he's likely Scum and if he's acting like the patient he's Town.

 

I havent seen much Scum!Darthe so I can only base my read off of if I feel hes acting differently or not.

 

 

CCSOWH <3

 

 

@Everyone - is psychiatrist-Darthe=Scum a thing?

 

 

@Z. Ok, that's fair enough. Which games of his stand out most to you?/Have you been comparing him to here?

[Eldrick4221]

GM eveyone

 

Just wanted to inform you guys this is my anniversary weekend so me and Mrs. AJ will be doing a bunch of stuff and I won't be around as often to be current and post VCs and such. I would still like to have a Sunday night DL but I know that is somewhat unrealistic for a lot of us so I could push it to Monday morning/early afternoon.

Either way works for me. Sunday is theidle of my week.

[BFG]

Oh, and ZAAAAAAAANDERRRRRRRRRRRRR! What I've read of yours seems flat.

 

If you're Town

 

LET'S GO LUNCH SOME WOLLLLLLLLLVESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

\○/

 

\M/ \M/ \M/

 

 

ZANDER!

 

When you have an open mind.

 

Let's dig in a little? FTR - THIS IS NOT ME SHADING YOU. THIS IS ME WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT STUFF AND TRYING PROPER COMMUNICATION TO FIGURE YOU OUT. 

I'm Town. Let's do this!

 

 

I liked:

The initial question/fact that there's interaction between you and Shad

The excitement

 

I see differences in our reactions to Shad's answer that I want to explore.

 

I read the line of Shad's you've highlighted as him giving himself space to flip a view on Sooh either way. To me, the part where he says 'but she's probably a villager' is the key.

The whole thing effectively suggests 'I know how to read her, trust me, I'll catch her if I need to, but you don't have to worry about that'

 

 

1. Thoughts??

Can you show where you thought Zander was flat and where excited?

 

Also, why are you so focused on his read of you right now?

[Sooh]

In fact, you harping on the entire "Pral likes to bus" narrative just confirms my read that you are scum. The town Zander I know would mention it but not make a whole case on that. You have been saying that right from D1 when I called out Shad as scum. And, this was around the point when random claimed and you were looking for an alternative. That was the scond reason why I started suspecting you.

 

(As an aside, Sooh would know - I do tend to bus as scum but I am more careful as scum when people who know that are around. Like in the PoTC game, I was not busing until Zander was dead. I even explicitly told it to Sooh who was my scummate there)

Can confirm the latter  part of this post. 

 

I read the ISO though, and I can't say I'm convinced either way about Pral's alignment. He's right about what he observed in Shad, so the scum read looks natural, but then again, from the same game he referenced here, he was giving a very convincing scum read of Besie through most of the game and for legit reasons, so it's not exactly out of his range. He did say he tried to avoid bussing when he knew Zander was around though, purely because Zander is so aware of that part of his meta.

 

That being said I wish there was more clear and consise reads from Pral.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

*snip*

Lol

 

Then why aren't you voting me?

 

Because she wants to distance herself from you first?!?!!?!?

 

OMG, that's brilliant

 

 

Thank you, Ill admit I thought the exact same thing myself.

Yeah, I was indeed admiring that :)

 

Is sarcasm!Pral something you would associate with his scum play? I want to say no, but not sure.

[BFG]

My meta on Darthe says that as mafia he wants to take charge more, recently as town he's been more passive. I didn't get Cory's psychiatrist meta, but feel he sometimes tries to be clever when mafia and is more straight forward as town, but Darthe so???

[Eldrick4221]

Darthe. I didn't quote anything because it was the topic of discussion for the past few pages.

 

I started shad ISO. Noticed that shad's very confident early read on Cass and sock. Not Bob had us listed as his top scums. Shad replied to that with listing them as his confident town reads.

 

He then also asked Zander about his reads on the 2 of us together.

 

Felt like he was trying to promote a Town read on a teammate. Because I know I'm town, this would make Cass scum.

 

I then went to bed and zander ran with it

He found other instances where shad did similar things. Commented on how he thought it was weird that shad was cutting himself off from so many mislynch options. That there was likely scum in sock/cass/dice because of that.

 

 

Then there was how Cass handled shad's train. Zander and I both saw this as bad and are reading her as scum for it.

 

 

Just because I didn't quote anything doesn't mean I don't have a case. You thinking he is town and I am scum when we have virtually the same case on Cass is really weirding me out.

[Eldrick4221]

I'm gonna try to get more sleep before work now. Woke up cuz i had to go to the bathroom.

[Cass]

Zander 667 Eldrick4221 525 Sooh 331 randomh3r0 282 Darthe 243 Calder 242 Shad_ 236 Cass 124 Ironeyes 90 dicetosser1 81 manbat 75 BFG 74 Andrej 72 鲍勃不是我的名字 68 Nynaeve 62 Pralaya 37

 

According to the CCSoHW's theres likely a Wolf in the low posters, chance is increased by the fact Shad was one of the top posters up until he died.

 

Im thinking.....Pral.

 

 

Trading on Cory's name denied - unless it's correct imo :)

 

On DM with players whose meta you know I think it's better to run with that.

 

What's normal for everyone in Town/Scum iyo?

 

I'd say you and Eldrick having top is null to alignment. Number of posts probably irrelevant

 

Sooh I have no idea either way these days?

 

Darthe being near the middle surprises me just generally speaking cos I always assume he's heavily involved, I think the last few games I've played with him he wasn't present much.

 

My post count is whatever it is.

 

Dice don't know how it translates to numbers but low activity doesn't surprise me.

 

BFG's just started so number is irrelevant and I don't know what's normal for her anyway.

 

I would've said Pral being low is usual, lowest in this group normal? Him being involved seems good (thinking of activity towards the middle-end of WoW)

 

I can't see outliers to usual expectations?

 

Thoughts/fill in blanks on each?

[BFG]

 

In fact, you harping on the entire "Pral likes to bus" narrative just confirms my read that you are scum. The town Zander I know would mention it but not make a whole case on that. You have been saying that right from D1 when I called out Shad as scum. And, this was around the point when random claimed and you were looking for an alternative. That was the scond reason why I started suspecting you.

 

(As an aside, Sooh would know - I do tend to bus as scum but I am more careful as scum when people who know that are around. Like in the PoTC game, I was not busing until Zander was dead. I even explicitly told it to Sooh who was my scummate there)

Can confirm the latter  part of this post. 

 

I read the ISO though, and I can't say I'm convinced either way about Pral's alignment. He's right about what he observed in Shad, so the scum read looks natural, but then again, from the same game he referenced here, he was giving a very convincing scum read of Besie through most of the game and for legit reasons, so it's not exactly out of his range. He did say he tried to avoid bussing when he knew Zander was around though, purely because Zander is so aware of that part of his meta.

 

That being said I wish there was more clear and consise reads from Pral.

 

This sounds like wifom though now

 

Pral knows that we know that he knows he busses, or something like that

 

That said, his read on Shad looked in place, and the lack of vote felt in place - still think he'd be more aware of how he appears if mafia, but need to see how he developed

 

Wish he'd stop ignoring me about reads :(

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

What Zander wrote:

 

 

 

 

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?

Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

 

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

 

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

 

 

 

ok lmk when youre caught up

 

start being villagery

 

really wanna hear your take on Sooh/Eld

*blink*

lolololololololol

 

 

@Shad - where are you getting your Sooh meta from?

I'm not sure I even understand this question but I've played/spectated quite a few games with her. I've struggled to read her more in some games than others but I've never been dead wrong.

I dunno Im thinking I may wanna test this....

 

 

 

I don't know if this is a nitpicky word choice thing, but do you think that Random's choice to defend his read on me is an overreaction? The phrase "jump into your defense" seems very strong for what he did which in my opinion was more an explanation of a read.

Is anyone else noticing the random/sock/nyce triangle of town reads on each other since I called out Eldrick's connections post?!??!?!!?

Likely town

Nyce

Random

random hasnt done anything scummy really yet. thats all. nyn had him and zander as light town

 

she also was leaning town on sock tho i wasnt so sold on sock but that ones a watch and see spot.

Dice: It's surprising that my posts this game haven't drawn the scrutiny from Dice I faced last time, which could be a bad sign for him, or could mean my play's been a bit more solid this game. I've got a slight town vibe from him for the moment

 

Sock: Sooh hasn't really posted much substance in my opinion either way. Eldrick is doing a good job seeming like he's looking for scum, but I felt a bit weird about how he was so quick to vote manbat after our interaction, and seemed to agree with everything I said. This could be paranoia - I'm not used to being agreed with frequently in mafia. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but that just equals a null read

They're all trending positively on one another to some degree, but I'm not sure what you're getting at with red unless you think scum!Eldrick kicked off the game by informing us that if scum!Nyce is a wolf then scum!Random is too.

 

The only thing that really sticks out here to me is Random calling Dice town while saying mostly negative things about him, which doesn't say anything about Dice's alignment but leaves me wondering about Random a bit.

 

@Random can you/did you explain this town vibe?

Ya this pretty much confirms to me theres a Wolf in Sock/Dice/Cass

 

The only person he really takes issue here is the guy who is like almost confirmed Town Cop.

 

He's not gonna remove like a quarter of the starting roster from being able to be pushed as ml's imo

 

What I actually see:

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

 

Nudge

Looking at Pral only for now.

 

If Zander Villa this looks bad.

If Zander Scum we can't discount light bussing.

 

Them going hammer and tongs now ITT is a good thing

Lol

 

Then why aren't you voting me?

 

 

1. Because I'm not sure of your alignment and I don't often play with votes.

 

There exist possibilities you might be Town, those are open to interpretation, and I'm not caught up/decided on you yet.

 

 

Yet you voted Amega without even casing her first!?!?!?!?!?

 

 

 

I answered you about Amega ages back. 

 

1. DON'T OFTEN doesn't mean never.

2. The situation with Pral and the situation with Amega are different.

 

The reason for voting Amega was because they weren't really talking, first impression of what was in the ISO coupled with the lack of contribution meant they needed to be prodded. 

Rationale went 'sometimes quiet players need poking for encouragement', let's try that! 

I did so. I made sure it wasn't intimidating enough to make them clam up.

 

If you're really looking at what I say and do, you can see this??

 

 

I don't understand what you're getting at with the bold and the ?!?!?!?!?? 

 

Break it down.

 

And add in why is this so important to you?

 

 

Its important because i dont think Town!Cass stalks the weakest player out of the gate.

 

But its really generally important to me because Scum tend to push weak/inactive people because its easy, it dont look too bad most times and it avoids having to fight/argue/case with the person because theyre not around.

 

Make sense to you now?

 

Also add the face BFG's looked pretty good thus far in that slot and it makes me feel even better about my read.

[Zander?]

For reference, the entirety of my content on Amega.

 

Yey! Read to here (872) \o/ ( :P NotBob, :P )

 

Can pull specific quotes/explain points further later if required but random mobile thoughts:

 

Don't think I see Nyn reacting the way she did/to that extent as Scum.

 

Shad commenting on Zander's general level of participation but not voting him on it (yet) is Towny imo.

 

Interested to see Zander's reaction and effort from here. He still feels lacklustre at present and I associate that more with Wolf Z in a team he can't get hyped about (ZANDER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) but early direct pressure isn't the way you figure him out imo.

 

Eldrick's comment on keys to reading Zander is spot on imo. Trying hard to be objective about points of tinfoil this game and don't actually have Eldrick leaning scum aorn. He's less slimy in feels then I recall from scum games of his. Watching Sooh.

 

Calder and Random's response to Eldrick's Zander comment felt off. Calder because it's the reverse of my Zander understanding, Random because how could he agree if he's never played with Zander Scum?

 

No idea on Darthe. Not someone I want to D1 lynch.

 

NotBob is the same boat.

 

Don't know Amega but [v]Amegakure[/v] Please come play!

 

Pral - there's a tonne of spam in catch up, not as horrifying as it first looks. Thoughts?

 

GTH aorn Zander/Amega/Calder/Random pinging most

 

 

 

Also lol Meow, Jelly, and Shad's unexplained read of Sooh 'not' being picked on XD

 

 

 

 

 

 

cause of my instant reaction to it

 

 i immediately saw sooh pinching the bridge of her nose rolling her eyes and muttering your name unbelievingly.

 

my head points out that it could be frustration that ure being sooo scummy ure outting your self but i have learned that if i have an instinctual reaction/answer  follow it.  if i dont im usually wrong

Bold rings true for Dice and he says simular in person. Effectively null but I want to lean it Town for now.

Dice, is your read on Zander still the same? Any doubts or thoughts he's Town?

 

i think he has amped up but i feel like it could be because hes making an effort to be amped up if that makes sense. As for has my thought changed? wheres my vote at? thatll tell you.

 

I didn't know where your vote was at, and that's not the questions I asked :P

How confident do you feel in that read?

Dice nvm about this, I misread stuff

 

 

@Sooh I have no clue how to read NB. I'm deliberately ignoring him <.<

 

Wrt vote on Amega, vote can stay there for now. This is the entirety of 'content'

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&section=search&do=search&fromsearch=1

 

 

 

Need more from Amega, but going with possible scum here aorn. ISOs from 2 most recent Town and 2 most recent Scum games from the database suggest noticeably lower activity as scum and jokier starts than when Town, both of which are what seemed off to me initially here.

 

There really wasn't much content here when Amega entered/was posting so ehhhh but there's plenty now.

 

There are 42 games listed under Amega's name in the database and ISOs show analysis and reads being made, so there goes my concern they were maybe a new player psyched out or not knowing how to start.

 

Can't get ISO links to work here. Ftr games looked at were

 

Scum:

Mass Effect

 

Disney

 

Town:

Godzilla

 

Mistborn

 

 

I don't trust Random's claim but he self-resolves imo

 

Sooh, why don't you see that as a possible mafia move?

 

Zander on the up for me rn #crayons! #excite!?

 

[v]unvote [/v]

 

Still need to ISO but on a personal level I can understand Shad leaving the computer. I don't think it's likely to be alignment indicative.

 

Zander:

 

Any pings in Shad's actual play?

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone give a 3 person WTL list please!!!!!

NotBob, Sock, Amega

 

In that order?

 

im worried about a blind lynch on Amega tho.

 

we really gain no info either way and no chance for a claim.

I lean towards waiting for their replacement, still think the intro style is possi-scummy

 

WTL when I'm caught up

 

 

Zander, read it again in conjunction with my explanation.

 

Give me your final thoughts.

 

Please :)

 

TLDR

 

I love you

 

I think youre Scum

 

I doubt you change my mind.

 

If im wrong Im sorry

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

[Zander?]

 

Zander 667 Eldrick4221 525 Sooh 331 randomh3r0 282 Darthe 243 Calder 242 Shad_ 236 Cass 124 Ironeyes 90 dicetosser1 81 manbat 75 BFG 74 Andrej 72 鲍勃不是我的名字 68 Nynaeve 62 Pralaya 37

 

According to the CCSoHW's theres likely a Wolf in the low posters, chance is increased by the fact Shad was one of the top posters up until he died.

 

Im thinking.....Pral.

I think CCSoHW works best when people are pretty much even in post amount usually. But I'll look into Pral next, since he's got 37 posts and Darthe has way too many

 

Perhaps I'll try a Dice ISO too. We'll see. 

 

 

 

 

Zander 667 Eldrick4221 525 Sooh 331 randomh3r0 282 Darthe 243 Calder 242 Shad_ 236 Cass 124 Ironeyes 90 dicetosser1 81 manbat 75 BFG 74 Andrej 72 鲍勃不是我的名字 68 Nynaeve 62 Pralaya 37

 

According to the CCSoHW's theres likely a Wolf in the low posters, chance is increased by the fact Shad was one of the top posters up until he died.

 

Im thinking.....Pral.

 

 

Trading on Cory's name denied - unless it's correct imo :)

 

On DM with players whose meta you know I think it's better to run with that.

 

What's normal for everyone in Town/Scum iyo?

 

I'd say you and Eldrick having top is null to alignment. Number of posts probably irrelevant

 

Sooh I have no idea either way these days?

 

Darthe being near the middle surprises me just generally speaking cos I always assume he's heavily involved, I think the last few games I've played with him he wasn't present much.

 

My post count is whatever it is.

 

Dice don't know how it translates to numbers but low activity doesn't surprise me.

 

BFG's just started so number is irrelevant and I don't know what's normal for her anyway.

 

I would've said Pral being low is usual, lowest in this group normal? Him being involved seems good (thinking of activity towards the middle-end of WoW)

 

I can't see outliers to usual expectations?

 

Thoughts/fill in blanks on each?

 

 

First off....I am both graduate of the basic program and teacher at the CCSoHW's.....so don tell me how it works!!!!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

But seriously Id proll never use it by itself to make a read but its definitely something I factor in.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

*snip*

Lol

 

Then why aren't you voting me?

 

Because she wants to distance herself from you first?!?!!?!?

 

OMG, that's brilliant

 

 

Thank you, Ill admit I thought the exact same thing myself.

Yeah, I was indeed admiring that :)

 

Is sarcasm!Pral something you would associate with his scum play? I want to say no, but not sure.

 

 

i have no idea but id prolly say it was null

[Zander?]

Nearly 4am so gonna head to bed. 

 

I like that Sooh's doing ISOs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Atm I'm at Cass and Darthe/Pral with a sidenote of Dice, because he can't get over that I'm not townreading him (when do I ever?).

 

 

It seems to me that you saying im nudging people but you dont think Im Scummy for it?!?!

 

Or am I missing something?

 

Correct. I think you're town, but I didn't approve of your method of nudging (or scum hunting).

 

 

ty

 

 the nudging comment as possible 

 

 

 

 

 

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Atm I'm at Cass and Darthe/Pral with a sidenote of Dice, because he can't get over that I'm not townreading him (when do I ever?).

 

 

It seems to me that you saying im nudging people but you dont think Im Scummy for it?!?!

 

Or am I missing something?

 

Correct. I think you're town, but I didn't approve of your method of nudging (or scum hunting).

 

 

pocketattemptdenied.gif?!??!!?

 

 

GM eveyone

 

Just wanted to inform you guys this is my anniversary weekend so me and Mrs. AJ will be doing a bunch of stuff and I won't be around as often to be current and post VCs and such. I would still like to have a Sunday night DL but I know that is somewhat unrealistic for a lot of us so I could push it to Monday morning/early afternoon.

 

Congrats!

 

Its important to me Cass because if looks like you came in picked an easy target who wasnt around to defend themselves and made a weak Meta case on her to validate keeping your vote there which looks like busy work to look busy.

 

This is not how Id expect Town!Cass to react and jump in with imo.

 

Sure, if it happened like that, but it didn't - vote was removed. If you can't take my explanation and the posts in sequence as Towny me by this point I'm probably going to put it down as a you problem.

 

Next topic!

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

 

I've been thinking about this. The lack of specific action bothers me because I've seen Darthe attempt to directly rally in previous games so I know he has the capacity. Imo it surfaces when he's having fun/enjoying himself.

 

He specifically stated earlier he's been chill and happy, focused on the peek going right N1, so you'd think he'd be motivated to pump everyone forward as Town, but the 'rally' attempts feel indirect.

 

TLDR the amount of effort he puts in isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's harder to work out his actual alignment when he's not giving his all. 

 

@Darthe

 

I don't wanna debate about whether or not your rallying was Towny.

 

 

@Zander - where are you at on Darthe?

 

@Darthe - where are you at on Z?

 

 

How do you explain the fact you haven't wanted to kill each other (from the things I've seen) ?

 

Has this happened before?

 

 

If Im wrong on you or Pral its Darthe imo but I feel hes been pretty much his normal Town!Darthe self thus far.

 

Again tho Im not the best Darthe reader

 

 

What's Scum!Darthe for you?

 

Cory described it as if he acting like a psychiatrist he's likely Scum and if he's acting like the patient he's Town.

 

I havent seen much Scum!Darthe so I can only base my read off of if I feel hes acting differently or not.

 

 

CCSOWH <3

 

 

@Everyone - is psychiatrist-Darthe=Scum a thing?

 

 

@Z. Ok, that's fair enough. Which games of his stand out most to you?/Have you been comparing him to here?

 

No I didnt look at any games irt Darthe in particular atp.

 

I have general things I look for with him.

 

I will if I have to readjust my PoE

[Zander?]

Would love to hear Iron's current thoughts

[Pralaya]

Ok, went through Darthe ISO - he is very, very passive the entire game. Doesn't take a strong stance, tunneling on Sock since the start of the game. Scum Darthe doesn't like to let the game go on its own but wants to steer the lynches. I don't see that intention here. Either he is trying to intentionally change his playstyle or he is bored town. I am thinking latter.

 

Similar observation regarding Sooh. She gets less motivated as scum as the game goes on. This game, she is quite active throughout the game and still intent on solving it. Previous read is stronger now.

 

Cass - While my mind says she logically cannot be scum, I don't like the pushes on sooh and me. Seems to be the easier way to go as scum since the other options are harder. Plus, thinking over it, my logic goes for a toss if she is actually the traitor who cannot co-ordinate with Shad

 

BFG is a conundrum. I don't think I can or ever have read her just by going through her posts. Need some good sense of seeing her votes before getting a read on her. Unfortunately, that is lacking in this game. So, I don't know

 

Dice is also a null. I haven't seen anything off in his posts but not seeing the same motivation I have seen in him as town. I need to ISO him properly. But, Nyn came across as town to me.

 

That leaves Zander who I have talked much so far. There is definitely a wolf in zander/BFG/Dice and I think it is Zander. If cass flips scum, that would clear Zander because I don't see them as w/w at all.

 

The problem is there is only one day of voting pattern that we can analyse effectively and even in that the push was mainly focused on one or two. I am not very confident of my reads frankly

 

Zander (1) - Dice

Sock (1) - Darthe

Not Bob (5) - Marsh, Zander, Random, Shad, Sock

Sock (1) - Not Bob

 

Not voting: Pralaya, Amega, Cass, Calder

 

7 to lynch

The closest alternate train was Sooh, which doesn't exactly say much.

[Ironeyes]

Nicci and I are going to Dr. Strange this evening. Anyone seen it?

I watched it with my brothers. Awesome movie if you're super into Marvel. Super trippy though. 

 

Morning peeps, I'm like four pages back and pretty lost. 

[Darthe]

Dota has sucked me in so bad

[Darthe]

Btw in still here and reading but am dotaing a bit before the movie, its date night.

 

Did some of y'all have questions about me or were those just observations?

[Zander?]

Who wants to lynch Dice while hes sleeping?!?!!?!?!?

 

[Darthe]

U know I do

[Eldrick4221]

Hey Darthe. I know you are stuck with a scum read on me, but if you knew I was town who would you suspect?

[Andrej]

Vote Count 3.03

 

Cass (2) - Zander, Sock

Sock (1) - Darthe

 

Not voting: Marsh, Pralaya, BFG, Cass, Dice

 

5 to lynch

No changes.

 

Assume that DL falls tomorrow night until I say otherwise. You have roughly 32 hours from now.