[Standard] Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Mafia Wins D4

[Cory Caboose]

I'm happy with either a Sooh or Kat lynch, I think both are likely mafia, but will probably vote Sooh today

 

I've flicked through SA, TG and Disney,

 

As mafia Kat suffered with gnu (look at read on Hellian and Day 1 vote on town - she knew she 'should' be voting Hellian. In SA there were still inklings of whatif (i flipped town) and Id pretty much given up at that point. Her vote on Sooh in contrast seems very confident, especially coming from an uncertain start

 

There's also an open agony when she town reads someone like Zander which is missing here in her reads from Nyn and Cory

 

basically where I'm at on both

 

both have mailed it in but "appear" to be trying when they are here

CONSULT THE DIAMOND

[BFG]

I guess at least I can be relieved I'm not seeing nothing lol

 

But for example Tink? In Disney was mechanically outed somehow? and you doubted your vote (skimming loses context unfortunately)

 

Just seems different

[BFG]

Anyway, don't dare post more cos lol signal

 

GLGL!

[Cory Caboose]

glgl

[Zander?]

Vote Count!

 

• Sooh - 5 - Nynaeve, Lizabeth, Cory, Kat, BFG
  
• Katiora - 2 - Csarmi, Pral
  

 

Day Two ends at 12:30 Eastern time on Tuesday, 11/1.

[Clovdyx]

Ty Zandr

[Clovdyx]

The planet's health was nothing new.  We couldn't blame it entirely on him, or even his father, but he wasn't doing anything to fix the problem.  His company had decided what seemed like eons ago that their personal growth was important enough to trade the planet's life for.  I suppose it isn't a hard decision to make when you only live a few years; the planet lives millions.

 

Or it would, if we're successful.

 

In the beginning, he hid and ruled from the top of his tower.  My friends fought.  He sent his followers to stop them.  It was only at the end that he came down.  By that time, he realized the grave mistake his company had made.  If only it weren't too late to turn back.  

 

The explosion could be seen for miles.  It shook homes.  The sky turned even more black than we were used to.  Despite everything that had happened, I still pitied him.  My friends would tell me to never lose that. 

 

Sooh was lynched!  She was - 

 

 

 

Rufus Shinra, role cop, Mafia-Aligned.

 

 

 

 

You're the new president of the most powerful company on the planet.  You're also kind of a tool, and you're destroying the planet.  But you have an army of supersoldiers at your command and a ton of money, so all's well that ends well I guess.

 

 

It is now Night Two!  Night Two ends at 12:30 Eastern on Wednesday, 11/2.  Actions will be locked 15 minutes prior to this.

[Clovdyx]

End of Night Two!

 

Strength.  We all have it inside us.

 

Hopes and dreams.  We all have them.  If you're lucky, you might choose something realistic.  That way, you have a chance to obtain it one day.  Others dare to dream of things far greater.  They dream of the heavens and stars, and other things you could never actually hope to touch.

 

For him, the heavens and stars weren't nearly as far away.  He had the opportunity to actually reach them.  How much strength does it take to sacrifice your only chance to achieve your dream for someone else?  Because that's what I'll always remember about him.  He was loud, angry, and aggressive.  But he was strong - both physically and emotionally.  And for those of us that got to really know him, it was that love deep inside him that made him strong.

 

BFG was killed!  She was - 

 

 

Cid Highwind, a tracker, Town-aligned.

 

 

$^##%@$%*$ %&$%*#@#% tea $^@#^&(^% going to outerspace except for that $!@%$ idiot.  Also, you're probably Chris in about ten years, so you've got that going for you.

 

 

 

It is now Day Three!  Day Three ends at 12:30 Eastern time on Friday, 11/4.  

[Lizabeth]

[v]Kat[/v] <3

 

See y'all after work

[Cory Caboose]

gg bfg <3

[Cory Caboose]

I'm throwing out all of my reads and going through the game again when I get home

 

GLGL ALL

[Katiora]

I stick with what I said yesterday I think that Pral and Csarmi are scum until I see some reason to think otherwise.

[Cory Caboose]

Someone also needs to step up and be my BFG foil because I'm not doing this alone

 

Step up to the plate, someone

[Nynaeve]

I'm gonna ISO Sooh after dinner irt her interactions, votes and reads

[Katiora]

Guys I really don't think Sooh is a wolf here with her Darthe progression in the last 2 hours. There's just no way.

Defends sooh, which he later admits that it was something he would do as a wolf. I'm pretty sure I quoted it. If not I'll dig it up.

 

 

 

I'm willing to vote Darthe over Sooh.

Thats interesting

 

I think she's a villager. She posts you as a town lean then 180 with 1.5h to go (she didn't have to). Too inconsistent to be a wolf.

 

Here he defends her as being "too inconsistant to be a wolf" which is always a horrible excuse to "town" someone because this is SUPER easy to fake as a wolf. 

 

 

Not really trusting my Cory and Nyn read.

Here he starts throwing shade at Cory and Nyn. I think he was trying to see if he could pick up an underlying current in which he might could get them lynched. 

 

 

 

 

 

Good morning! I'm about to do a reread and puy together a reads list. For now I just wanted to mention that I really like this analysis:

Wolf cory doesn't die n1 and doesn't lynch his teammates. Town cory feels townie and may not lunch wolves d1, probably dies n1, and if he doesn't, he goes on to lynch a wolf d2. I thought my comments were fairly self explanatory. Cory doesn't really matter, we're never going to lynch him d1 even if there was a hint he was a wolf so we as might as well not waste time discussing his behavior when he's so self solving.

Gotta ask, what did you love about this exactly? It's not an analysis. It's purely meta based and it sounds like she's not going to address or asses anything that Cory does because she feels it'll just resolve itself. What she's saying is not incorrect in itself irt his town game...though I haven't seen him enough as scum to know if he'll bus or not (I just know when he was teamed with tiinker he didn't)..... but I still feel like it's a bit of a cop out thing to say and somewhat weird considering her commentary when she first entered the game.

What I liked is that it's a plan. Not necessarily one that allows immediate action, but a plan nonetheless. I don't know cory really at all, so having a little meta helps me

i have some trouble believing that Ironeyes' progression on me is

 

"Him proclaiming he's town pinged me" to

 

"But people said that's normal" to reading someone saying:

 

"Well we can't lynch him d1"

 

and goes "well, I like this plan!"

Sounds like a misrepresentation to me. Ironeyes said he liked there WAS a plan. Which is something I would expect Cory to see.

 

Here he throws MORE shade at Cory. Which takes him no where. 

 

BFG

Nyn

Pral

 

Cory

Sooh

 

As for Katiora and Liz. I don't know. I'm not sure It even have them separated in my head. They're just the players I don't know. I guess I'd need another re-read for that. Which might be happening, but unlikely. I'd guess Liz i a wolf and Kat a villager but these really are just guesses.

And here he starts out with me a villager and Liz a wolf, which contradicts with later actions

 

 

 

Sorry all for signing up though. Especially BFG.

Don't be silly :)

 

 

Can you talk more about Kat/Liz?

 

What's changed your mind on Sooh?

 

 

Kat/Liz - I wish I could but I really just don't have them. From Liz what comes to mind is the way she kept nagging Darthe about Darthe's obvious joke quetsion to you (are you always serious so soon). About Kat what I can recall is her approach of you (warning people that you could fool them).

 

As for Sooh, I haven't changed my mind. I'm just completely torn there. On the one hand I don't like her actions and people (mostly Cory) keep saying she was a wolf (these do get to me actually), on the other hand I really could just take her actions for a confused villager and there's that TWTBAW. So I just don't know anymore.

 

see here is another mention on me. still not really suspecting

 

 

What makes it twtbaw?

 

Gives a read list where she has Darthe as villager-ish.

Changes her mind because Darthe is defending Ironeyes.

Then does some even sillier stuff.

 

It's just too illogical. If you are self-aware you don't go against your read like that. There was no point in it either. She just looked to me like someon grasping at straws.

 

Back to the sooh can't be guilty because it looks to suspicious 

 

 

Salami has one recentish scumgame on here where he did not do great - Warcraft

 

He had another a bit further back where he was very good - Spaceballs in Thak

 

He hasn't played in a bit in general however

 

What are these games?

 

Anyway I'm horrible at being a wolf it's just that somehow when I'm playing a bad game where I'm not me I'm usually under the radar for some reason. A lot of people just read me completely backwards.

 

Well this is how it was anyway.

 

But I haven't played in ages so that's probably all irrelevant. I mean, tbh, I'd probably just suck equally now.

 

This looks like a bit of AtE 

 

I'm also around. Wassup.

Then at eod he posts this but then NOTHING ELSE. no discussion. He voted me, sheeping BFG and never changed, but never offered any kind of explanation for why even though he had stated earlier that i was possibly town without any progression to speak of, of anything else.

[csarmi]

YayFG.

[Nynaeve]

>.>

[csarmi]

Good story Kat. For future reference. I have no plans and hidden agendas and whatnot in my game. Ever. Not as wolf. Not as a villager. Just not how I work. *

 

I really just call it as I see it.

 

I defended Sooh cause I thought she was a villager.

 

*sometimes I do stuff like fake claims and hints as such. A different thing though.

[csarmi]

I mean she played a great game.

 

Also Cory not wolf with Sooh I would say. I mean I think he would bus, but I don't think he just does it for no reason if he doesn't really have to.

[csarmi]

Someone also needs to step up and be my BFG foil because I'm not doing this alone

 

Step up to the plate, someone

Sure lets do it. I will be legit busy but I will need some distraction from all the bullshit work. May work out.

[csarmi]

@Kat I just sheeped BFGOAT with my vote. Also would have steeped her at Liz. Not on the rest of ya without a discussion. Including Sooh and Cory.

[Cory Caboose]

Also Cory not wolf with Sooh I would say. I mean I think he would bus, but I don't think he just does it for no reason if he doesn't really have to.

 

If anyone has any doubt whatsoever re: me being a villager now is the time to speak up

[Cory Caboose]

because fighting off 75% of the game townreading sooh for [reasons i will never understand] for four days was exhausting af and while i'd rather stay pleasant and try to keep us moving in the right direction i wouldn't mind 1-2 opportunities to spout off at people ;)

[csarmi]

Alright can we find her track maybe?

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

 

Nyn, talk to me. Got any hot takes so far?

 

You said Liz was even more inquisitive in her POG game? Does it tell you anything about her alignment here?

sooh this really feels like it comes someone with a motive to get nyn on liz's case

 

in terms of "leading questions"

I suppose a more open ended "Can you tell me more" could have been better. Though I'm not sure how you would assume that such a question would lead Nyn down any path she wasn't already on. She brought up the previous game, which means it's already in the back of her mind.

I just don't like when someone seems to be trying to get someone to say something

 

You see Nyn deliberate differences between Liz as town in a previous game and go "any hot takes?" "You said Liz was more inquisitive as a villager in a recent game, so how do you feel"

 

Just sort of feels "hey Nyn call liz a wolf"

 

Idk seems instigative and I don't rememeber you playing that way as a villager

 

Does that make sense?

 

 

The question - that BFG asked aptly yesterday - is does this spew Liz villager?

 

Requires more pondering